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http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3170474
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/10/09/resistance-to-use-ps3-psp-connectivity-for-psp-plus

Now, starting with "Resistance: Retribution", games on the PSP will allow DualShock3 connectivity so you can play with more comfort for you fingers and with a second analog stick!

I'm sure Shatnershaman will love this.

While I'm not sure this is optimal for on-the-road travel gaming or what games will support this, it is a cool feature and it could add some possibilities for better movement ala the second analog stick on the Dualshock.

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Well, this is interesting.

Looks like it could be a pain if you're moving about (ie. in a car, bus, train). But it's a good idea. I've always thought the PSP needed another stick. I always thought they would be a lot better if they were more like a Dualshock with a screen put in the middle.

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Novajam:
Well, this is interesting.

Looks like it could be a pain if you're moving about (ie. in a car, bus, train). But it's a good idea. I've always thought the PSP needed another stick. I always thought they would be a lot better if they were more like a Dualshock with a screen put in the middle.

Yes, it would be nice to just make sortof a Dualshock controller with a screen, but this way they won't have to alienate their original buyers and make the original PSP absolete.

I'd say they're saving that for the "true" PSP-2, but that's just a hunch.

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Maybe an attachment like they did with that keypad.

Though, that would make it fatter and more annoying to use than the duke controller for Xbox. Even if you had big hands.

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Jumplion:
Yes, it would be nice to just make sortof a Dualshock controller with a screen, but this way they won't have to alienate their original buyers and make the original PSP absolete.

I'd say they're saving that for the "true" PSP-2, but that's just a hunch.

I'd say you're about right. It would be big, but soooo much easier to hold.

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Wait a minute... they're letting you plug a controller into a portable system... and they let you plug it into your tv and play it on that... Where's the portable come into play?

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xitel:
Wait a minute... they're letting you plug a controller into a portable system... and they let you plug it into your tv and play it on that... Where's the portable come into play?

Exactly my thoughts (and I'm sure everyone else's thoughts who actually read the article); this is going to be as popular as the 32X or the Jaguar.

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I'd be very exited about this if you could plug the controller into the USB slot as well as use the BT. Even better for two players, bring back memories of my Nomad days. :)

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Jumplion:

I'm sure Shatnershaman will love this.

Must.....buy....PS3.....Khan!!!

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Eggo:

xitel:
Wait a minute... they're letting you plug a controller into a portable system... and they let you plug it into your tv and play it on that... Where's the portable come into play?

Exactly my thoughts (and I'm sure everyone else's thoughts who actually read the article); this is going to be as popular as the 32X or the Jaguar.

I think that the PSP is meant to connect PS3 controller through bluetooth or whatever the PSP uses (I don't keep up with the handheld scene).

But if you upscale the PSP's resolution to a TV screen, won't everything look blocky?

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While the addition of this "Infected Mode" sounds like a great bonus for Resistance fans, the new PSP Plus feature is strange. Having to hook the PSP up to both the TV and the PS3 is a little awkward, but those without the TV-out cable will have to sit near the PS3 looking, at the PSP screen from a distance with Dual Shock 3 in hand. It's a neat experiment, to be sure, but doesn't seem to be an entirely compelling feature. Be sure to watch out for hands on impressions of PSP Plus following the launch of Resistance: Retribution.

Although I wouldn't call it a neat experiment.

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Once again Sony fails to grasp what a PORTABLE GAMING SYSTEM is Supposed to do. Why am I not surprised. How will the DSi ever compete with this innovation in hardware?

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Eggo:

xitel:
Wait a minute... they're letting you plug a controller into a portable system... and they let you plug it into your tv and play it on that... Where's the portable come into play?

Exactly my thoughts (and I'm sure everyone else's thoughts who actually read the article); this is going to be as popular as the 32X or the Jaguar.

Didn't Nintendo do basically the same thing? Why didn't Nintendo get the same criticism? GBA/GC connectivity, anyone? You can use the GBA as a controller, play games on the GC (with an additional ADD-ON).

The system's still portable... you just have more options now. :P

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OuroborosChoked:

Eggo:

xitel:
Wait a minute... they're letting you plug a controller into a portable system... and they let you plug it into your tv and play it on that... Where's the portable come into play?

Exactly my thoughts (and I'm sure everyone else's thoughts who actually read the article); this is going to be as popular as the 32X or the Jaguar.

Didn't Nintendo do basically the same thing? Why didn't Nintendo get the same criticism? GBA/GC connectivity, anyone? You can use the GBA as a controller, play games on the GC (with an additional ADD-ON).

The system's still portable... you just have more options now. :P

Yes because the controls were completely and utterly different oh wait no they weren't it's a completely different thing. Nintendo also didn't pass this off as something cutting-edge. They took the concept to new places (minimaps, color graphic palettes), wheras Sony is going "Fine here's your second analog stick now shut up"

Also I never had to use a GCN controller to play a Game Boy game properly.

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AceDiamond:

OuroborosChoked:

Eggo:

xitel:
Wait a minute... they're letting you plug a controller into a portable system... and they let you plug it into your tv and play it on that... Where's the portable come into play?

Exactly my thoughts (and I'm sure everyone else's thoughts who actually read the article); this is going to be as popular as the 32X or the Jaguar.

Didn't Nintendo do basically the same thing? Why didn't Nintendo get the same criticism? GBA/GC connectivity, anyone? You can use the GBA as a controller, play games on the GC (with an additional ADD-ON).

The system's still portable... you just have more options now. :P

Yes because the controls were completely and utterly different oh wait no they weren't it's a completely different thing. Nintendo also didn't pass this off as something cutting-edge. They took the concept to new places (minimaps, color graphic palettes), wheras Sony is going "Fine here's your second analog stick now shut up"

Also I never had to use a GCN controller to play a Game Boy game properly.

I must be thick, because I'm failing to see how this is something to complain about... especially if you don't even like the PSP. They're just adding more flexibility to the platform. What's the problem?

And I've never said, "Man, I wish I had a second useless nub", either. Again, what is your point?

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OuroborosChoked:
Didn't Nintendo do basically the same thing? Why didn't Nintendo get the same criticism? GBA/GC connectivity, anyone? You can use the GBA as a controller, play games on the GC (with an additional ADD-ON).

The system's still portable... you just have more options now. :P

I thought that was silly as well (and an obvious money grab).

Although I think you're confusing the two as being similar in implementation when it seems they aren't (unless I'm the one who is confused).

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I like the effort, something had to be done. But in all fairness, given the screen size a separate controller may just not be practical (I'm thinking it is time for a PSP 2)

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Novajam:
I think that the PSP is meant to connect PS3 controller through bluetooth or whatever the PSP uses (I don't keep up with the handheld scene).

But if you upscale the PSP's resolution to a TV screen, won't everything look blocky?

Well here's the problem. The PSP doesn't have Bluetooth, unless their soon-to-release 3000 model changes that. According to the articles, you can only use the controller if both the controller and the PSP are connected through a PS3.

If you have one of the newer PSPs, you could then also connect it to your TV using the video out. But this seems to be an exceptionally complicated configuration to bother with. It may even be more of a pain than the original Crystal Chronicles.

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Eggo:

OuroborosChoked:
Didn't Nintendo do basically the same thing? Why didn't Nintendo get the same criticism? GBA/GC connectivity, anyone? You can use the GBA as a controller, play games on the GC (with an additional ADD-ON).

The system's still portable... you just have more options now. :P

I thought that was silly as well (and an obvious money grab).

Although I think you're confusing the two as being similar in implementation when it seems they aren't (unless I'm the one who is confused).

They aren't. No Game Boy game ever had a "oh we need more buttons to do this so you need a controller that does it the way we meant to" thing that this is going to have.

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AceDiamond:

OuroborosChoked:

AceDiamond:

OuroborosChoked:

Eggo:

xitel:
Wait a minute... they're letting you plug a controller into a portable system... and they let you plug it into your tv and play it on that... Where's the portable come into play?

Exactly my thoughts (and I'm sure everyone else's thoughts who actually read the article); this is going to be as popular as the 32X or the Jaguar.

Didn't Nintendo do basically the same thing? Why didn't Nintendo get the same criticism? GBA/GC connectivity, anyone? You can use the GBA as a controller, play games on the GC (with an additional ADD-ON).

The system's still portable... you just have more options now. :P

Yes because the controls were completely and utterly different oh wait no they weren't it's a completely different thing. Nintendo also didn't pass this off as something cutting-edge. They took the concept to new places (minimaps, color graphic palettes), wheras Sony is going "Fine here's your second analog stick now shut up"

I must be thick, because I'm failing to see how this is something to complain about... especially if you don't even like the PSP. They're just adding more flexibility to the platform. What's the problem?

This is Sony refusing once again to admit they have lost.

I'm sorry... you lost me again. Lost what? Was there a war, race, or other competition going on?

Eggo:

OuroborosChoked:
Didn't Nintendo do basically the same thing? Why didn't Nintendo get the same criticism? GBA/GC connectivity, anyone? You can use the GBA as a controller, play games on the GC (with an additional ADD-ON).

The system's still portable... you just have more options now. :P

I thought that was silly as well (and an obvious money grab).

Although I think you're confusing the two as being similar in implementation when it seems they aren't (unless I'm the one who is confused).

So it's wrong for a multi-million dollar electronics company to want to make money? Wow... no wonder I don't understand economics.

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yeah I sorta meant to not post the "they've lost" comment but...yeah they've lost. Just make a new PSP and stop pretending like the first one was a great idea.

And how about making a handheld game system that actually PLAYS GAMES AND NOT MUCH ELSE. I don't need a glorified iPod I need something that PLAYS GAMES

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AceDiamond:
yeah I sorta meant to not post the "they've lost" comment but...yeah they've lost. Just make a new PSP and stop pretending like the first one was a great idea.

And how about making a handheld game system that actually PLAYS GAMES AND NOT MUCH ELSE. I don't need a glorified iPod I need something that PLAYS GAMES

Then buy the system that does that? Why get angry over something that isn't what you want? If you preferred to buy hybrid sedans, would you get pissed if pickup trucks still existed?

And as for lost, I'm guessing you haven't seen the sales charts in Japan or Europe this year. Granted, it's not doing well in the US... but you still have yet to explain what they're "losing". I enjoy my PSP... and my DS... and my GBA SP. Does that mean that I win?

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I'm actually kinda hoping for something that allows me to play PsP games on my Ps3. I don't want to get into portable gaming anytime soon (on any system, cause I'd prefer to just grab a book), but I woul;d like to play some of these titles.

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This seems like a whole lot of nerdrage for something kinda stupid. Sure it's kind of silly, and a bit of a money grab, but you're actually going to whine that they went and added features to a game just for the hell of it? This just kinda makes me think of the classic spoiled brat: "But daaadddyyyy I wanted the WHITE pony. YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T LOVE ME!"

Also: Resistance for the PSP? Neat, I'll have to keep an eye on that. It may go on my big list of "games to get when I buy my PSP."

But oh wait, this system is just a total failure and 'losing' right? Man, that list I've got that's pushing about a dozen games already must just be totally packed full of fail like God of War and Crisis Core...right?

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AceDiamond:

Eggo:

OuroborosChoked:
Didn't Nintendo do basically the same thing? Why didn't Nintendo get the same criticism? GBA/GC connectivity, anyone? You can use the GBA as a controller, play games on the GC (with an additional ADD-ON).

The system's still portable... you just have more options now. :P

I thought that was silly as well (and an obvious money grab).

Although I think you're confusing the two as being similar in implementation when it seems they aren't (unless I'm the one who is confused).

They aren't. No Game Boy game ever had a "oh we need more buttons to do this so you need a controller that does it the way we meant to" thing that this is going to have.

But that's exactly what so many PSP people complain about, and Sony's giving them the option wether or not it's inconvinient for actual portable play, yet people like you who do not have a PSP (I'm assuming on this) are complaining about this? What sense does that make?

AceDiamond:
And how about making a handheld game system that actually PLAYS GAMES AND NOT MUCH ELSE. I don't need a glorified iPod I need something that PLAYS GAMES

I'm sorry, but I have yet to see someone who has a PSP use it for anything else besides games and I most certainly won't when I get one, I could care less. Also, that argument's invalid now that the DSi is going to have "multimedia" functions. Does that mean Nintendo should stop making handhelds and make one that actually plays games? No, they added some nifty features for you, what's the problem?

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Jumplion:
I'm sorry, but I have yet to see someone who has a PSP use it for anything else besides games and I most certainly won't when I get one, I could care less. Also, that argument's invalid now that the DSi is going to have "multimedia" functions. Does that mean Nintendo should stop making handhelds and make one that actually plays games? No, they added some nifty features for you, what's the problem?

I actually use my PSP to surf the internet when I'm out and about and don't have a computer handy. Just sayin'

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Jumplion:

I'm sorry, but I have yet to see someone who has a PSP use it for anything else besides games and I most certainly won't when I get one, I could care less.

The PSP is my PVP/MP3 player....I even run Linux.... *sulk*

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I love surfing the net on my PSP (of course I haven't picked it up in a couple months, but I used to). The PSP is already too big and too fragile to keep in a pocket so why shouldn't they release a more beefed up version which doesn't give you carpal tunnel and has an extra nub and maybe an extra set of L and R buttons? I keep my PSP in a padded case all the time because of all the ways the damn thing can brick including looking at it wrong and calling it names.

If you want something to keep in your pocket but a DS but the PSP will forever be semi-portable because it's such a nancy boy piece of technology.

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AceDiamond:
yeah I sorta meant to not post the "they've lost" comment but...yeah they've lost. Just make a new PSP and stop pretending like the first one was a great idea.

And how about making a handheld game system that actually PLAYS GAMES AND NOT MUCH ELSE. I don't need a glorified iPod I need something that PLAYS GAMES

*sigh* Oh look, another blatantly ignorant statement. How has the PSP lost exactly? Yes it may not have reached the same sales glory as the DS but wtf are you expecting. Nintendo has ALWAYS been in the hand held market and has earned their place there. The second a worthy competitor comes in (PSP) people just laugh and brush it off instead of giving it a bloody chance. It's still a capable system and does it's job well. It's for people who are not satisfied with the DS and actually want something else without resorting to cell phone games.

How was it not a great idea to make a system that plays games and has extra features there to make more use out of it. By that logic you mean to say the iphone, or any cell phone for that matter is a "bad idea". So it's versatile, whats wrong with that hmm?

A system that plays games eh...ok you win...oh wait, no you don't, because you obviously have not looked at the games it has on it if your making an utterly stupid statement like that.

As for the topic at hand. I find this extra feature kind of neat. Grant it I don't have a PS3 or a controller but that does not inhibit me from playing this game. the controller option is just there to allow dual stick play IF YOU WANT IT. You can still play the game without the PSP plus option on, it would be just like playing the siphon filter games...and if you have played them you will see how well shooters can handle on the PSP. If this game turns out well, it will be another worthy game to add to my library.

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OuroborosChoked:
I actually use my PSP to surf the internet when I'm out and about and don't have a computer handy. Just sayin'

shatnershaman:
The PSP is my PVP/MP3 player....I even run Linux.... *sulk*

Alright, fair enough, but I didn't say that nobody uses the PSP like that. I couldn't care less about those features, and I have yet to meet someone in person atleast who uses them, but that's not to say there aren't people who use them.

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compared to the gba/ds and the gc, sony has nintendo totally licked in connectivity to the main console

mind you the controller thing doesn't bug me much as i hate fps' on a console but neat they're adding the functionality

 
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