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Decoy Doctorpus
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Pleasing gamers, particularly fans of a long running series, is extremely difficult. Any change you make to a game's formula, be they mere graphics updates or the slightest, most perfunctory nod towards modern gaming mechanics, will fill long term fans with disgust and contempt. Contempt they will voice angrily and repetitively over the Internet.

Most developers either cave in and change their game to fit the idealistic vision of these nostalgia ridden cave trolls or ignore them completely. Blizzard has happened upon a superior third option. Antagonize them.

Behold this T shirt sported by Diablo 3 lead designer Jay Wilson.

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Apparently if there is sufficient demand Blizzard will mass produce this fantastic piece of fashionable troll bait. So get demanding. I simply must have one.

Jobz
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*Waiting for editing to be complete*

Wait...Doctorpus's status thing is "King of the Yetis"...What the deuce? O.o

deathkittin
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no more cartoony warcraft crap? is it gonna be like hellgate london should have been?

~cross fingers~

EDIT: I made that post before the text and picture now there was added ;)

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Codgo
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Sounds kinky, i'm looking forward to it.

CmdrGoob
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That is pure awesome.

KSarty
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LOL, thats awesome.

TsunamiWombat
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Where do I go to demand? I must see this done. Taunting the Rainbow Trolls is epic.

gibboss28
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I love it.

TsunamiWombat
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Seriously is there a survey I can fill out or something? Where do I go to demand!

deathkittin
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they better make babydoll tees i want one because it's true lol... I've seen screenshots it's just Warcraft: Demon edition

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Rooster Cogburn
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That is classic. Personally, I say the darker the better, but I can so appreciate the humor in that.

meatloaf231
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Jobz:
*Waiting for editing to be complete*

Wait...Doctorpus's status thing is "King of the Yetis"...What the deuce? O.o

He won the review contest with his Ski Free review, so he got a new title.

As for the shirt... That is awesome. I love seeing people do this kind of thing to unreasonably angry fanboys. It's the shirt equivalent of smacking them and saying "this is our game, and we do as we please."

I want one.

TheBadass
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My respect for Blizzard went up when I saw that t-shirt. Seriously, that's a bitchslap right to the faces of the h8rs.

wiredk
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Great, than you'll all be happy with the singing animals, Mickey mouse as a playable character, and an epic soundtrack involving a happy jig about the sea.

Oh well, so many people firmly attached to the Teet of blizzard, willing to accept anything from them as if it was the golden droppings from the Great Dali Llama. "Its their game" is such a non-sequitor, because the people who MADE the game aren't part of Blizzard anymore.

deathkittin
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wiredk:
Oh well, so many people firmly attached to the Teet of blizzard, willing to accept anything from them as if it was the golden droppings from the Great Dali Llama.

Yeah totally... giant american warcraft neeks with fat growing around their chair locking them onto it !!

wiredk:
"Its their game" is such a non-sequitor, because the people who MADE the game aren't part of Blizzard anymore.

yep they are the warcraft company now, and their new games reflect it, starcraft 2 looks like crap too :|

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TomNook
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Decoy Doctorpus:
Pleasing gamers, particularly fans of a long running series, is extremely difficult. Any change you make to a game's formula, be they mere graphics updates or the slightest, most perfunctory nod towards modern gaming mechanics, will fill long term fans with disgust and contempt. Contempt they will voice angrily and repetitively over the Internet.

Most developers either cave in and change their game to fit the idealistic vision of these nostalgia ridden cave trolls or ignore them completely. Blizzard has happened upon a superior third option. Antagonize them.

Behold this T shirt sported by Diablo 3 lead designer Jay Wilson.

image

Apparently if there is sufficient demand Blizzard will mass produce this fantastic piece of fashionable troll bait. So get demanding. I simply must have one.

OMG where do I get one!

axia777
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While I do love the new direction of DIII art work is taking, when I saw that pic I think I threw up a little. That is way to "Rainbow Bright/My Little Pony" for me.

Good morning blues
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wiredk:
Great, than you'll all be happy with the singing animals, Mickey mouse as a playable character, and an epic soundtrack involving a happy jig about the sea.

Oh well, so many people firmly attached to the Teet of blizzard, willing to accept anything from them as if it was the golden droppings from the Great Dali Llama. "Its their game" is such a non-sequitor, because the people who MADE the game aren't part of Blizzard anymore.

I realize that we're on the precipice of a flamewar here, and I do want to avoid that, but you do realize that if it was all dark and shadows that it would be impossible to tell what was what on the screen, right? Do you really want to play an entire game that looks exactly the same in every location, especially a game as repetitive as Diablo?

I'm not a Diablo fan, and I will probably never play Diablo III, but I can see why this art style is here, and I think it looks good.

Jobz
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meatloaf231:
He won the review contest with his Ski Free review, so he got a new title.

Ah...OK. That makes sense.

I've never really been a fan of the series (Not that I don't like it, I just haven't played it enough) so I don't know about any new directions or anything like that. But that shirt kicks ass. I must have one.

Pyronox
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The T-shirt is awesome.

However I fail to see how it is a bitchslap in the face of haters (of whom I am president) because it just proves our point.

Death to Blizzard.

Good day folks.

EDIT: And meatloaf, it's not "their" game.

Ivoryagent
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...

Blizzard is the greatest fucking company ever now.

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TsunamiWombat
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It's pointing out the haters are a bunch of irrational nebishes and your claims are outrageous and idiotic. Death to Trolls. Good day folks.

Pyronox
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TsunamiWombat:
It's pointing out the haters are a bunch of irrational nebishes and your claims are outrageous and idiotic. Death to Trolls. Good day folks.

Haters because Blizzard STOLE a game and ruined it for all it's fans.

Irrational? Tons of us have looked at the situation and proposed HUNDREDS of viable solutions for Blizzard that were tested previously, yet they did not want to listen to what could have clearly won them millions more fans.

Outrageous and idiotic claims? We've never claimed anything that wasn't already known and always approached the issue intelligently, though the aura of massive STUPIDITY and GULLIBILITY of the fanboys causes some of us, me notably, to get extremely frustrated, I admit, and post some hatecrap. The only thing someone intelligent could accuse us of would be overzealotry.

TheNecroswanson
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I never did get into Diablo 2, just didn't appeal to me.
However I do like the way D3 is looking. And I so totally want that shirt.

Ralackk
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Pyronox:

TsunamiWombat:
It's pointing out the haters are a bunch of irrational nebishes and your claims are outrageous and idiotic. Death to Trolls. Good day folks.

Haters because Blizzard STOLE a game and ruined it for all it's fans.

Irrational? Tons of us have looked at the situation and proposed HUNDREDS of viable solutions for Blizzard that were tested previously, yet they did not want to listen to what could have clearly won them millions more fans.

Outrageous and idiotic claims? We've never claimed anything that wasn't already known and always approached the issue intelligently, though the aura of massive STUPIDITY and GULLIBILITY of the fanboys causes some of us, me notably, to get extremely frustrated, I admit, and post some hatecrap. The only thing someone intelligent could accuse us of would be overzealotry.

Turn the Gamma down on your monitor when you play the game, problem solved. Also if colours mean that much if you have an nvidia card they have a fairly extensive colour correction control panel. I'm fairly certain you can make the game look and feel much darker playing around with those, yes you will need to change them back everytime you play a different game but its an option.

TsunamiWombat
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Blizzard stole a game that they owned? Win them millions more f... you realize they are an international multimillion dollar corporation with enough 'fans' to conquor several russian satellites and found the Peoples Republic of Blizzard?

Isn't overzealotry the definition of being a fanboy/hateboy?

Pyronox
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Thank you for trying Ralackk, I really do appreciate it. However, the cheesery of the game will be terminal. Just look at this...

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/movies/wizard.xml

If someone somehow finds this anything but cheesy and warcrafty, I will... whatever I won't do anything to save you.

TsunamiWombat
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Pyronox:
Thank you for trying Ralackk, I really do appreciate it. However, the cheesery of the game will be terminal. Just look at this...

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/movies/wizard.xml

If someone somehow finds this anything but cheesy and warcrafty, I will... whatever I won't do anything to save you.

...How is it 'warcrafty', exactly? I've been looking at some of the Blizzcon previews, the game opens in Tristram forest amidst a plague of undeath. The last few survivors are burning their loved-ones corpses so they won't rise from the grave. One of your first quests is finding absolution for the ghost of a little girl who starved to death at the bottom of a well.

Decoy Doctorpus
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TsunamiWombat:

Pyronox:
Thank you for trying Ralackk, I really do appreciate it. However, the cheesery of the game will be terminal. Just look at this...

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/movies/wizard.xml

If someone somehow finds this anything but cheesy and warcrafty, I will... whatever I won't do anything to save you.

...How is it 'warcrafty', exactly? I've been looking at some of the Blizzcon previews, the game opens in Tristram forest amidst a plague of undeath. The last few survivors are burning their loved-ones corpses so they won't rise from the grave. One of your first quests is finding absolution for the ghost of a little girl who starved to death at the bottom of a well.

I saw that on an episode of YU-GI-OH last week. The game has been totally pussified.

Pyronox
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Did you see the vid? Comon. Asian wizard, zombie that says "AHAHAHAHA" and a smirk before supposedly killing the thing? Erm. More polygons would've been the LEAST they could've done.

Burning corpses and a little girl ghost salvation? Was that at Blizzcon or is it something new they made up to try and save their asses? Knowing that this is true might alleviate the pain a little, but I'm still far from convinced.

Maet
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If I can't buy it, I'll make it myself.

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TsunamiWombat
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Pyronox:
Did you see the vid? Comon. Asian wizard, zombie that says "AHAHAHAHA" and a smirk before supposedly killing the thing? Erm. More polygons would've been the LEAST they could've done.

Burning corpses and a little girl ghost salvation? Was that at Blizzcon or is it something new they made up to try and save their asses? Knowing that this is true might alleviate the pain a little, but I'm still far from convinced.

Gamespy mentioned it in a Blizzcon report. The wizard is asian (at least this universes version of it, coming from Xiansai) but she's the FIRST and ONLY Asian character so...

Admittedly I would've preferred it if the Wizard was a crotchety old somewhat nefarious bastard who dabbled in evil lore, but they already have that- the witchdocter. The Wizard is supposed to be a hotheaded young mage of great talent who was forcibly ejected from the Vizerji mage clan when she entered forbidden Archives and got into a battle with a professor when she got caught. Then she escaped. At least, according to the website.

What exactly are you complaining about? The structure of the teaser? it was just a teaser. Don't take the shit so seriously, i'm pretty sure there won't be alot of AHAHAHAHAHAH'ings in the actual game. Your so damn skittish, geese. Relax.

Pyronox
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Maet:
If I can't buy it, I'll make it myself.

Give me the training and the money, and I'll do it for you. I really would.

Pyronox
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TsunamiWombat:

Pyronox:
Did you see the vid? Comon. Asian wizard, zombie that says "AHAHAHAHA" and a smirk before supposedly killing the thing? Erm. More polygons would've been the LEAST they could've done.

Burning corpses and a little girl ghost salvation? Was that at Blizzcon or is it something new they made up to try and save their asses? Knowing that this is true might alleviate the pain a little, but I'm still far from convinced.

Gamespy mentioned it in a Blizzcon report. The wizard is asian (at least this universes version of it, coming from Xiansai) but she's the FIRST and ONLY Asian character so...

What exactly are you complaining about? The structure of the teaser? it was just a teaser. Don't take the shit so seriously, i'm pretty sure there won't be alot of AHAHAHAHAHAH'ings in the actual game. Your so damn skittish, geese. Relax.

What I mean is at least the witch doctor looks foreign to our universe, ya know? And barbarians were really developed characters in D2. Compared to them this looks like someone put a japanese girl in a scanner and removed a bunch of polygons. No offense.

As for taking stuff seriously... I can't help it. I just loved Diablo so much that seeing it reduced to this is just... intoxicating.

EDIT: Sorry for double post.

Alex_P
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Did y'all notice this in the comment thread?

"Fixed."

-- Alex

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