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Muckraker
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I'll say it right out. I am a huge Zero Punctuation fan. I stay up late every wednesday just so I can watch it. This thread is by no means an attack at Yahtzee or his work. Just letting you all know.

Anyway onto the matter at hand. Maybe its just me but has anyone else noticed a significant decline in the amount of people watching Zero Punctuation? I mean have a look at one of his earlier movies, his review of SSBB and it has 1230 comments. Then look at his most recent, a review of Fable 2 and it has 318. Its not just that particular review either. All of his recent reviews havent had the traffic of his earlier ones. Originally I thought it might just be that he is reviewing games that dont interest people. But I was under the impression that Fable 2 is a fairly hyped up game and so that leaves that theory dead on the side of the road. As I already stated Im a huge Zero Punctuation fan and this is not an attack on him, Im just curious as to what you guys think.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Please don't be another Donald Mcronald, kid...

Muckraker
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I can only assume that god struck you down before you had a chance to fill in the blasphemy you were about to write, then you hit the post button as you died.

BANNED
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Gahars:
Please don't be another Donald Mcronald, kid...

There have been many trolls, recently there was that one with the suggestive name... likes_it_rough, why did you choose Donald?

Pulitzer Laureate
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fish food carl:

Gahars:
Please don't be another Donald Mcronald, kid...

There have been many trolls, recently there was that one with the suggestive name... likes_it_rough, why did you choose Donald?

He's the one I remember the best over the others

Copy Clerk
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Ignoring the others... SSBB caused a lot of controversy (spell check) Fable 2 did not =)

Gone Gonzo
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The latest ones aren't as funny starting with silent hill homecoming, but that might be because I don't own any of them except fable.

Gone Gonzo
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To answer the question; it's just you.
There are always more comments about things he hates which others love. SSBB was the main one, as it annoyed a lot of people. I imagine there will be a good few more comments on the latest one later on. From what I saw, even people who liked the game agreed with him.

Infamous Scribbler
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The amount of comments doesn't necessarily show that less poeple are watching. I still watch it religiously.

Gone Gonzo
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It depends on the game really...

If he gave ( which he probally will) Gears Of War 2 a scathing review then many fanboys will be registering to post there non-existant reasons why he is wrong

Muckraker
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galletea:
To answer the question; it's just you.
There are always more comments about things he hates which others love. SSBB was the main one, as it annoyed a lot of people. I imagine there will be a good few more comments on the latest one later on. From what I saw, even people who liked the game agreed with him.

I dont think its just me. Lots of people liked fable 2 and he ripped into it like a Christmas Ham, yet still not as popular as his SSBB review.

Paperboy
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Yeah comments aren't always analogous to page views. It's just his ssbb review and mail bag showdown caused a lot of anger and controversy, There's only so many people that need to say "lolz best review every yatzee you are god" etc.

Gone Gonzo
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I don't think it's so much a decrease in popularity, but that there isn't as much as an increase. I think the videos still get plenty of hits, but because his reviews are no longer new and exciting we get less new fans each week and there hasn't been as much to discuss because as has been pointed out, the latest reviews are somewhat less controversial.

I still find the videos as funny as ever, and certainly watch them every week, but I don't feel the need to comment on them.

Muckraker
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SSBB was exceptional though, it was so over-hyped to the degree that people would die to defend it, of course it has more comments. He was flamed more then for any review for the SSBB one, heh.

Gone Gonzo
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I dont think its just me. Lots of people liked fable 2 and he ripped into it like a Christmas Ham, yet still not as popular as his SSBB review.

Um, he rips into everything except Psychonauts and Painkiller. his SSBB review was controversial because he spent most of the video ripping on gamers and in part, his fans. I think a lot of people felt betrayed and offended.

Muckraker
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People keep saying the SSBB review was controversial because it was over hyped right? Well so was fable 2.

Muckraker
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I'd say SSBB is by far the most controversial review he has ever done to date - remember that people we buggering him for it before it even came out in Australia, and when he finally did his thing it was probably (well, in my opinion) at least partly a very deliberate provocation, and the fanboys responded predictably...

Could any "official" people share some viewing statistics? No...?

Gone Gonzo
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Maybe it has something to do with the fact you have to register to comment, many members won't comment on those threads anymore because no productive disscussion is produced.

Apparently Yahtzee gets around 4 million viewers across the globe.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Now that he actually updated it with TEXT it can be intelligently discussed.

Anyway, SSBB, like others have stated, was, and still is, I guess, controversial, since its such a well loved franchise among Nintendo fans

People like Fable 2, myself included, but it has nowwhere near the adoration as a Nintendo franchise like SSBB

But, when a Gears 2 or Little Big Planet or Left 4 Dead review comes along, you'll likely see a huge increase in posts.

Pulitzer Laureate
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excessum ado:
People keep saying the SSBB review was controversial because it was over hyped right? Well so was fable 2.

But not nearly as much

And why did you make two of these threads originally without text?

Copy Clerk
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Gahars:
Now that he actually updated it with TEXT it can be intelligently discussed.

Anyway, SSBB, like others have stated, was, and still is, I guess, controversial, since its such a well loved franchise among Nintendo fans

People like Fable 2, myself included, but it has nowwhere near the adoration as a Nintendo franchise like SSBB

But, when a Gears 2 or Little Big Planet or Left 4 Dead review comes along, you'll likely see a huge increase in posts.

I concur

Muckraker
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D_987:
Maybe it has something to do with the fact you have to register to comment, many members won't comment on those threads anymore because no productive disscussion is produced.

Apparently Yahtzee gets around 4 million viewers across the globe.

I find that hard to beleive and would need some proof.

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Gahars:

excessum ado:
People keep saying the SSBB review was controversial because it was over hyped right? Well so was fable 2.

But not nearly as much

And why did you make two of these threads originally without text?

I already apolagised for that too. It was an accident.

Muckraker
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Kermi:

excessum ado:
I dont think its just me. Lots of people liked fable 2 and he ripped into it like a Christmas Ham, yet still not as popular as his SSBB review.

Um, he rips into everything except Psychonauts and Painkiller. his SSBB review was controversial because he spent most of the video ripping on gamers and in part, his fans. I think a lot of people felt betrayed and offended.

The absolutely only thing he didn't rip into was Portal.
he basically said that the only flaw was that the game was to short, but such was already obvious when he brought it in the orange box pack.

He did point out several flaws with Psychonauts and Painkiler even though he liked them.

Never the less, I believe that Yahtzee has lost a bit of the charm that I usually felt while watching his videos.
When I first started watching, the intro video was an amusing start, the content was unique aside from most reviewers, and the ending was abrupt and unexpected.
However when I watch it today, the intro is the same loud annoying tune every bloody time, the content is often getting old although it can still amuse me quite well, and the ending is often too expected making it not as funny anymore.

Beat Writer
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If Yahtzee keeps making the reviews, I'll keep watching them, and I think that's the general attitude of his fans. I do know a few people who stopped watching after the 'SSBB incident' but, if you'll excuse my language, they were brain-dead fucktards anyway, who would have quite happily let Nintendo bum them silly until they'd thought of a new title for the next SSBB game. (I bet you didn't know that's how they came up with the titles, now, did you?)

I personally don't comment on Yahtzee's reviews, but I do watch them semi-religiously.

As long as we occasionally give him food, water and a little love (or hate), he'll keep making us laugh.

Gone Gonzo
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Not that I really care whether he has a million viewers or down to just me. I'm gonna watch him anyway...

Gone Gonzo
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Gahars:
But, when a Gears 2 or Little Big Planet or Left 4 Dead review comes along, you'll likely see a huge increase in posts.

I'm personally expecting a spike if he reviews Fallout 3 - I think based on his reviews thus far that he'll fucking hate it.

LBP will definitely get a lot of attention too, because there's two very distinct sides of the LBP argument. It's either:
a) the greatest game ever that pushes the boundaries of what's possible in next-gen gaming and user generated content, ultimately providing unlimited gameplay, or;
b) a stupid cartoony playformer with a level editor and no depth.

If he takes either side we'll see a lot of commentary from the other side of the argument. I personally think option b is the one I most relate to. All my friends who went with option a on launch day stopped playing it within a few days.

Beat Writer
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excessum ado:

D_987:
Maybe it has something to do with the fact you have to register to comment, many members won't comment on those threads anymore because no productive disscussion is produced.

Apparently Yahtzee gets around 4 million viewers across the globe.

I find that hard to beleive and would need some proof.

I wouldn't. When I bought my copy of No More Heroes the chick behind the counter at Game was like 'you see the Zero Punc on this? Yahtzee freaking loved it' (and although the memories of that review that sprang to mind were those of him calling Travis an absoulute C***, I agree'd with her eitherway) now whilst I'm sure that if I'd gone into Marks&Spencer and bought a trilby, the lady(/man) behind the counter wouldn't have been all 'Dude, I bet Yahtzee's got a hat just like this.... sorry, we aren't allowed to sell this item to you. On the basis the chip on your shoulder isn't quite large enough... and also you look a bit thick' Ultimately the fact that I know a LOT of people who jib out random Yahtzee'isms and I've eavesdropped on my fair share zero punc discussions around and abouts too... so I think 4 million viewers weekly isn't that hard to believe at all.

Gone Gonzo
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I'm sorry, you have watched his traffic?

Gone Gonzo
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excessum ado:

D_987:
Maybe it has something to do with the fact you have to register to comment, many members won't comment on those threads anymore because no productive discussion is produced.

Apparently Yahtzee gets around 4 million viewers across the globe.

I find that hard to believe and would need some proof.

The evidence is none - existent because this entire argument is flawed - your basing your argument on the fact he hasn't gotten as many comments as in some older videos. I'm am sure only a small percentage of viewers actually comment.

As for the 4 million viewers - theres a clip of Yahtzee on some TV show (it was on these forums yesterday) in which he said that - although it was quite a while ago, so the number might have increased due to the added popularity of The Escapist.

Paperboy
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I only can't watch cause my computer is stupid and im on dialup so no way to fix it... :(

Muckraker
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Kermi:

Gahars:
But, when a Gears 2 or Little Big Planet or Left 4 Dead review comes along, you'll likely see a huge increase in posts.

I'm personally expecting a spike if he reviews Fallout 3 - I think based on his reviews thus far that he'll fucking hate it.

LBP will definitely get a lot of attention too, because there's two very distinct sides of the LBP argument. It's either:
a) the greatest game ever that pushes the boundaries of what's possible in next-gen gaming and user generated content, ultimately providing unlimited gameplay, or;
b) a stupid cartoony playformer with a level editor and no depth.

If he takes either side we'll see a lot of commentary from the other side of the argument. I personally think option b is the one I most relate to. All my friends who went with option a on launch day stopped playing it within a few days.

I imagine that Yahtzee might take the side of disliking LBP, seeing as he hasn't been to fond of puzzles and the likes in the past, and because he's not always too fond of the multiplayer.
Also because all the enemies are homemade and therefor not very intelligent.
Although then he might also like the single player levels created for him, or playing other peoples levels... or hell, he might even enjoy playing with other people if they don't all have to point out that "HOLY SHIT, YOU'RE YAHTZEE" and "OH YEEAAAHH, I JUST PUNCHED THE YAHTZEE INTO A FLAMING PIT!".

Muckraker
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D_987:

excessum ado:

D_987:
Maybe it has something to do with the fact you have to register to comment, many members won't comment on those threads anymore because no productive discussion is produced.

Apparently Yahtzee gets around 4 million viewers across the globe.

I find that hard to believe and would need some proof.

The evidence is none - existent because this entire argument is flawed - your basing your argument on the fact he hasn't gotten as many comments as in some older videos. I'm am sure only a small percentage of viewers actually comment.

As for the 4 million viewers - theres a clip of Yahtzee on some TV show (it was on these forums yesterday) in which he said that - although it was quite a while ago, so the number might have increased due to the added popularity of The Escapist.

Comments are bi-product of views. The more people that view, the more chance of comments. Therefore the more views, the more comments and vice versa. Unless the Escapist implements some kind of view counter like that of youtube there is no better way of gauging traffic.

Gone Gonzo
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excessum ado:
Comments are bi-product of views. The more people that view, the more chance of comments. Unless the Escapist put some kind of view counter like that of youtube there is no better way of gauging traffic.

Not true. I'm sure Susan, Yahtzee and all the other important people on this site have access to that information and I'm sure Yahtzee is probably still the most viewed part of this site. Either way, I don't particularly care, I'll continue to watch his videos because I have nothing better to do for 5 minutes a week.

Gone Gonzo
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The SSBB review pissed a lot of people off, which is probably why it had so many comments. the lack of comments for his later videos could show that people agree with what he's saying?

I still watch it whenever a new one comes out each Wednesday. But, funnily enough, a friend of mine said yesterday that he was 'losing faith' in Yahtzee because he 'hates great games' (he meant Dead Space here) and 'loves sh*t ones' (don't know what he was getting at there).

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