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Yup, got my first taste of ass on Left 4 Dead today. The vote system is supposed to stop this happening but it falls flat on its face when theres 2 of them. 2 guys running around with green health holding the medpacks while me and another guy limp on with red health and don't even get pills. I won't bore you with the details, but they were so convinced they were so superior to me and the other guy, even though I was outscoring them both (sometimes even combined). Then they struggled to realize why we couldn't complete the rooftop rescue on expert mode when they would only help each other up.

I don't understand why you find people like that on Left 4 Dead. People don't seem to realize its a team game and if you don't cooperate you lose. Still, that doesn't stop me getting shot in the back of the head with a shotgun for taking 'his medpack'.

Anybody else seen this kind of crap? Other than that, the game is awesome.

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Person jumping in front of me when I'm unloading a full 10 rounds from my auto-shotty into a room full of zombies is irritating.

Stated person getting pissed off and screaming on his mic about how shit I am after he is downed due to this incident is more irritating.

Person receiving two shotgun blasts to the face from a different team mate, this time on purpose, hilarious.

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Yup, got my first taste of ass on Left 4 Dead today.

I don't think that means what you think it means :P

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This is on the Xbox right?
Because if it is, this thread is living evidence that Xbox Live is full of annoying people.
I've been playing Left 4 Dead on the PC and I haven't found any idiots yet.
Most of the teams I've been with were great and used the voice chat, the ones that were sucky on FPS's (you know that guy who does too much friendly fire) are always the more helpful ones.

Oh and usually I always play on Expert and people tend to not screw up there.

Amnestic:

Yup, got my first taste of ass on Left 4 Dead today.

I don't think that means what you think it means :P

I just had a Family Guy flashback due to that post. Chris walks in crying and says to Louis:
"Mom, Jenny just took a dump on me!", he obviously meant that Jenny dumped him :3

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Amnestic:

Yup, got my first taste of ass on Left 4 Dead today.

I don't think that means what you think it means :P

aww i was getting excited...

Gone Gonzo
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Awww crap. -_-

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Richard Groovy Pants:
This is on the Xbox right?
Because if it is, this thread is living evidence that Xbox Live is full of annoying , racist kids .

So two random people are being idiots, and you are quick to say they're on the Xbox and that XBL is full of "annoying, racist kids".

First off, OP never said their age. They could have been teenagers or adults.

Second, way to generalize.

Third, way to quickly blame the Xbox.

Lastly, why are you spacing between your punctuation?

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I don't know, I have run in too assholes on both the pc and 360 versions. true there were more on XBL, but there are plenty in both areas.

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Richard Groovy Pants:
This is on the Xbox right?
Because if it is, this thread is living evidence that Xbox Live is full of annoying , racist kids .
I've been playing Left 4 Dead on the PC and I haven't found any idiots yet.
Most of the teams I've been with were great and used the voice chat, the ones that were sucky on FPS's (you know that guy who does too much friendly fire) are always the more helpful ones.

Wow, way to jump to a conclusion there. And the trolling begins...

Anyway, not to derail - stuff like this is why I don't usually play multiplayer games, but Left 4 Dead just looks like so much fun that I have to try it.

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Richard Groovy Pants:
This is on the Xbox right?
Because if it is, this thread is living evidence that Xbox Live is full of annoying , racist kids .

When did he ever say they were racists?
I'll admit some people on Xbox Live are idiots but you can't put a majority out of one single case. Thank you. That is all.

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Amnestic:

Yup, got my first taste of ass on Left 4 Dead today.

I don't think that means what you think it means :P

I lol

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Ice Storm:

Richard Groovy Pants:
This is on the Xbox right?
Because if it is, this thread is living evidence that Xbox Live is full of annoying , racist kids .

So two random people are being idiots, and you are quick to say they're on the Xbox and that XBL is full of "annoying, racist kids".

First off, OP never said their age. They could have been teenagers or adults.

Second, way to generalize.

It isn't?
I never said everyone's racist and annoying I simply implied that the xbox life has some fair share of users that have screechy voices and decide to use them to their fullest potential while in the voice chat (annoying), and that you can't enter a public game without listening to some kind of racial slur (racist).

Also I was a being a little facetious ;o

Third, way to quickly blame the Xbox.

Firstly blame George Lucas and then blame Microsoft for everything that's wrong in todays world. That's my motto.

Lastly, why are you spacing between your punctuation?

I dunno the spacebar probably got stuck. Why are you paragraphing every sentence?

Anyways sorry if I sounded harsh. I'll edit it out.

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I get assholes like that on EVERY game, especially FPS games. Not always too frequent, but it happens. I would have just left. I don't put up with that shit if I can't boot them.

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Well, first time I played the full version I hit join game in progress on accident and accidently twatted someone trying to get a hunter off them. I was all "oops sorry" then they started going insane and shooting at me. I slapped him around the face, he died and left. Then I left because the server it dumped me on was laggy anyway.

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Solo508:
Yup, got my first taste of ass on Left 4 Dead today. The vote system is supposed to stop this happening but it falls flat on its face when theres 2 of them. 2 guys running around with green health holding the medpacks while me and another guy limp on with read health and don't even get pills. I won't bore you with the details, but they were so convinced they were so superior to me and the other guy, even though I was outscoring them both (sometimes even combined). Then they struggled to realize why we couldn't complete the rooftop rescue on expert mode when they would only help each other up.

I don't understand why you find people like that on Left 4 Dead. People don't seem to realize its a team game and if you don't cooperate you lose. Still, that doesn't stop me getting shot in the back of the head with a shotgun for taking 'his medpack'.

Anybody else seen this kind of crap? Other than that, the game is awesome.

It's called griefing. They aren't idiots, they are doing it to piss you off. Think of it as video game trolling.

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I can understand why people would get annoyed with this kind of stuff when they are trying to complete a level but really, you have infinate continues and there's no real pressure to complete it quickly me & a few friends while being fully capable of completing the level usually turn to molotoving each other at really awkward times or closing doors on eachother generally being douchebags it is only a game afterall & L4D is a particually fun and relaxed game.

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I propose a L4D clan. surely fellow escapists are competent and understand teamwork. right?....

Right...?

To stay on topic (even though i've only played the demo. come tomorrow, that'll change) we had a halotard in our group, so we ramped up the difficulty to expert and let him go on his merry way.

He lasted, oh, twenty seconds.

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Willwillwritehiswill:
I propose a L4D clan. surely fellow escapists are competent and understand teamwork. right?....

Right...?

To stay on topic (even though i've only played the demo. come tomorrow, that'll change) we had a halotard in our group, so we ramped up the difficulty to expert and let him go on his merry way.

He lasted, oh, twenty seconds.

I have to becareful when I am playing L4D or Team Fortress 2, because my Bad Halo Habits kick in and I get my self wasted. I think once I play TF2 alot more they will go away though.

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Baonec:
I can understand why people would get annoyed with this kind of stuff when they are trying to complete a level but really, you have infinate continues and there's no real pressure to complete it quickly me & a few friends while being fully capable of completing the level usually turn to molotoving each other at really awkward times or closing doors on eachother generally being douchebags it is only a game afterall & L4D is a particually fun and relaxed game.

What you fail to understand is that people who do that are wasting the time of other gamers that want to finish the game. Not everyone plays games to "screw around" they play them for fun, and while fun is a gigantic subjective term, for me it means being challenged by a game, being pushed to the limit. Oh I screw with people sometimes as well, for example while playing the demo on the second level near the final part in the safe I tend to shoot the gas canister and watch the poor other 3 idiots die in a midst of flames :p.
Why do I do that? Because it's the last level. I wouldn't dare shooting the car alarm and alerting the horde in the first level because it would get us killed and we'd have to start over.

WoW was a mess as well, people wanting to form parties for a dungeon and at the middle of the raid/dungeon someone says: "sorry guys g2g." ; "hungry need food, bye". That is pants on head retarded, that'll mean you wasted at least 30 minutes for the other poor saps that are playing with you and more importantly trying to develop their characters.

I love reaching goals, and completing a level in Left 4 Dead on expert for me is awesome. Now if you want to shoot at each other fine, but don't waste MY time otherwise you're going to get blocked/kicked/ignored.

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I've got 30hrs under my belt with L4D and have not had any problems with idiots so far, the only annoying thing is people who keep going AFK during Versus matches. Extremely annoying when the AFK guy gets control of the Tank.

Thankfully the vote kick works very well and quickly removes anybody screwing around.

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I have to say, I've been lucky so far. No @#!#!#'s so far. A few newbies but they seems to learn as we went along - the good thing about much Valve games is they focus on newbies AND more seasoned players. The newbies tend to find the game easy to understand, whilst the seasoned ones focus on more advanced tatics like area denial, etc. (PC version at least)

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Codgo:
I've got 30hrs under my belt with L4D and have not had any problems with idiots so far, the only annoying thing is people who keep going AFK during Versus matches. Extremely annoying when the AFK guy gets control of the Tank.

Thankfully the vote kick works very well and quickly removes anybody screwing around.

What I don't understand is why they don't use the clearly labelled 'take a break' button to let the AI take over whilst they answer a phone (Like I had to once) or goto the loo (more than once) or whatever.

Valve were smart enough to think about these things, heh.

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i was hoping that Left 4 Dead wouldn't suffer from hooting chimp syndrome.

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Doug:

Codgo:
I've got 30hrs under my belt with L4D and have not had any problems with idiots so far, the only annoying thing is people who keep going AFK during Versus matches. Extremely annoying when the AFK guy gets control of the Tank.

Thankfully the vote kick works very well and quickly removes anybody screwing around.

What I don't understand is why they don't use the clearly labelled 'take a break' button to let the AI take over whilst they answer a phone (Like I had to once) or goto the loo (more than once) or whatever.

Valve were smart enough to think about these things, heh.

Aye, i've used it. Its very handy if i get a phone call of something, the bots are pretty damn smart. So when i'm calling somebody on the phone or taking a dump i don't have to worry about anything.

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Gone Gonzo
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Reminds me of this guy I met on expert difficulty. He kept running around on his own while we told him to slow down, etc. - then he'd say we're dragging him down and would brag about his kill count.

He always kept dieing and I'd try to help him up but the others didn't. I can see why, the guy was a total ass. After I helped him up, he goes "God I am so tired of rookie players, I'm out!"

Rookie?! You're the one who mistook this for counter-strike. Not me.

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JFKdidntLoS:
i was hoping that Left 4 Dead wouldn't suffer from hooting chimp syndrome.

i'm afraid even Hooting chimps suffer from hooting chimp syndrome... alas. Anyway. I havn't played that much, but i have played Lan w/ people next to you, and i can tell you that it makes it much more fun when you can yell "SMOKER! GET HIM OFF ME" not into a mike and have your buddy Yell "IGOTCHA MAN!" and actually get results communication is SOOOOO Much better in close proximity. ah.. such fun.

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Every game normally gets More then One person of different ages that are Useless, selfish or team killers..., some people just Enjoy being mean to there Team mates, and some people dont know any better.

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ElArabDeMagnifico:
Reminds me of this guy I met on expert difficulty. He kept running around on his own while we told him to slow down, etc. - then he'd say we're dragging him down and would brag about his kill count.

He always kept dieing and I'd try to help him up but the others didn't. I can see why, the guy was a total ass. After I helped him up, he goes "God I am so tired of rookie players, I'm out!"

Rookie?! You're the one who mistook this for counter-strike. Not me.

Heh, I love those idiots. I'll be fair, I never brag about anything some people just are better at FPS's than others, and some are better at other stuff than others, it's what makes us different and adds a nice spin to it.
Personally I'm a twitcher, always have been. Snipers? No! Anti-Armor?! NO! Give me a rifle and let me loose on the battlefield and I'll go at it like a fat person goes at cup cakes. This is why Left 4 Dead is the perfect game, it suits me oh so well. Ah, get an M16 and just shoot every stinking ambushing smoker that decides to show his face to you...hmmmm gore...

What were we talking about? Oh right assholes huh, well usually when people start rushing on Expert I give them a break, if they don't get us killed fine but the moment we die and they start making jokes I'm out.
A survival shooter is not Halo, Halo is a bullet fest. Both have its advantages and disadvantages and both have fun traits attached to them.

Also I noticed that some people tend to friendly fire too much, but usually those people are using shotguns and well lets just say that trying to help your friend get that hunter out of him with a wide spread shotgun shot might not only hurt the hunter but the prey as well. Obviously you need to take that into consideration but remember children if you see someone friendly firing too much and they're using a shotgun well, give them a break and tell him/her what you think in a polite way.

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Arcticflame:
Person jumping in front of me when I'm unloading a full 10 rounds from my auto-shotty into a room full of zombies is irritating.

Stated person getting pissed off and screaming on his mic about how shit I am after he is downed due to this incident is more irritating.

/Agree

Most annoying thing ever, besides maybe this incident that happened to me yesterday.

Person A was going for the Witch-Burning Achievement (whatever it is) and the team wandered past it, and being last in line, I was like "Hey Person A, the witch is back here." So, he wanders back with his Molotov like "Thanks dude!" and before he gets there, I say "Make sure you're flashlight is off." Literally 2 seconds before the witch yowls and separates his intestine from his body, I hear "How do I do that?"

I wasn't sure whether to ROFL or be angry.

Side Note: The percentage of douchebags on L4D is only about 1/5th of Halo 3, so I'm ok with it. Really like it when I'm playing with randoms, love it when I'm playing with friends.

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I've really had minimal problem with idorts in l4d. most just don't like to work as a tean, that's the only problem I've noticed.

Come to think of it, I only remember really good games. ones where we either dominated the survivors. or games where it comes down to the wire.

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Amnestic:

Yup, got my first taste of ass on Left 4 Dead today.

I don't think that means what you think it means :P

I can't stop laughing...

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I wrote on this very issue here:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.77892#955844

I like your clan idea. I'd see it as a group of people who agree to abide by the following tenets:

1. Don't be an asshole. Don't use racist or heterosexist slurs. Incidentally, I don't see this being a problem among regular readers of the Escapist.

2. Crouch if you're going to run between a teammate and zombies.

3. Stay close to your team.

4. Don't be too bossy -- if we're starting a group (terms like "clans" or "guilds" make me itchy) it's assumed that all of us understand the basic concepts of the game. It's good to remind other players of stuff, but don't bark commands at them.

5. Be reasonable about health replenishment. If you've got a pack or painkillers, use them to heal a teammate in need. If you're in the red and have supplies, heal yourself before asking someone else to do it for you.

6. If you've got a molotov and stumble across a pipebomb, trade up. Molotovs are annoying for so many reasons -- they render a large area impassable by your team, they create flaming zombies, and they can easily catch teammates in the difficult-to-estimate blast radius.

Anyone have suggestions for additional rules? Also, if anyone wants to play, my gamertag is in the above-linked thread.

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superbleeder12:
I've really had minimal problem with idorts in l4d. most just don't like to work as a tean, that's the only problem I've noticed.

Isn't working as a team... um... the whole point of the game?

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I had a humorous Incident as well, My friend and I were playing verses, as the infected. This random guy joins our team, and we think "cool, a fourth guy". He begins killing the other zombies and saying "protect the humans". We tell him to stop killing us, he goes on a rant that I couldn't understand through his garbled mic. My friend and I tell him to shut up or fuck off, he calls me a fag repeatedly, I get pissed off, and he is booted. Laughed my ass of at how stupid people can be.

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