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Never thought I would be saying (typing) these words, but I have touched and played an X-Box 360, and I was actually having fun.

No, I am not going to take back all I've said about the X-Box, original or 360. The machine, the controller, and the company that makes it are all a pile of suck and swallow. And no I did not buy a 360, my roommate did.

But he bought one game, the only game out there that could possible have made me touch that vile system, and now I'm so damned hooked on this game I daily contemplate calling in sick for work to stay home and play. Haven't BS'ed a sick day for gaming since FF7 in my highschool years. So what game, what holy or unholy relic of enjoyment and glee could make me feel this way? Well it ain't any of the new shit they've released, that's for sure. No, it's Dead Rising.

This is more of a rant than a review, the game is too old to review, and I was about the only person on earth to not have played this game already. But as a rant, thinking back on the game, you might remember the flaws I am now experiencing for the first time. Also, let me get something out of the way first... One, this game is a blast, but it is not good enough for me to buy my own X-Box and copy should my roommate move out, but it IS good enough that if it weren't an X-Box exclusive, I would buy a PS3 to be able to play the game. Furthermore, the controller of supreme suckdom which the X-Box uses, I hate to admit, is actually the perfect design for this one game. Which makes the X-Box version even more of a cluster-fuck because while the controller is perfect, the controls are a donkey shit sundae, and you can't alter them at all.

imageNow here's what I want to know... What pants-on-head retard at Capcom decided the first-person interface? Here's the deal... In first-person view (Camera or Weapon), left analog stick allows forward/back and sidestep movement, while the right analog stick aims up/down and left/right. Ok, slight problem here... As the upper left/right triggers are what engage this view, this means to snap a picture, toss a dagger, or swing the golf club, you can't use your index fingers, as they're tied up with keeping you in first person view... So if you're stuck instead using your thumb, why is the thumb that aims the same thumb needed to fire the weapon or snap the photo?

Why, for the love of zombies and wanton violence, couldn't they reverse the analog stick controls JUST for while you're in aimed view? Make the left stick aim up/down left/right, so you have a thumb free to shoot when needed. The way it is now, in between when you finally are aimed right on the enemy, and when you manage to transfer your thumb from analog stick to the proper button to shoot, the enemy would have either moved or shot at you, and your whole shot is fucked. The range and power of firearms in this game are already a bucket of suck, we didn't need poor aiming controls to hinder them further.

So the ranged combat blows, ok. The point of the game is the up-close and personal combat anyways, so lets nit-pick that then shall we?

Which one of you damn Capcommies chose to make a 2x4 more durable than forged steel? If I ever find out who it was, I'm going to get an authentic Katana and a 5-foot 2x4 and beat you with both, and we can measure which one breaks first, sound good? Yes I know, you aren't trying to make the game dead simple by providing everlasting weapons, but it's not a hard logic to doing it right... Simple improvised items should be plentiful and weak, both in damage dealt and how long they last. Real weapons or higher quality improvised items should last much much longer, but be very rare to find. You got the rarity down pat, but you need to work on the whole durability issue. Even being used in this unintended manner, A single hunting knife should last at least a day in reality, or a cast-iron frying pan should last the entire game. Something like 20 kills with a knife, not as fair.

imageSo the weapons are apparently all Chinese-made plastic crap, ok. A wooden guitar lasts forever whereas a reinforced police nightstick breaks within minutes, fine. And add to that, there are weapons that don't actually do damage, but are funny to use, so ok, we can live with that... So where are the kitbashed weapons? You're stuck in a mall filled with stores, surely one or two of them have duct tape. Rather than pointless additions like changing your clothes and drink mixing, why didn't they make weapon customization? I'd for one have had much more fun tracking down parts to create a nailbat than the pointless potion mixing.

Duct Tape + Shotgun + Knife = Bayonette.
Lead Pipe + Hammer (to bend the pipe) = Knuckle Dusters.
Guitar + Knife = Garotte (from guitar strings, instant decap on Zombies, similar move to the Sickle)

And did anyone notice, vehicular slaughter was pathetic? I'm in a gods-damned jeep, plowing into a crowd of 30 zombies, and only get 10 kills. The driving mechanics aren't the best, but they're decent enough considering it isn't a driving game, but some more splatter and kills would be appreciated. If a single swing of a lead pipe can KO a zombie in one hit, don't try to tell me a 50MPH bumper is less lethal.

Also, a quickie... You can tell it's an American city, there's no adult stores. This game would have just that much more comedic value if you could beat zombies over the head with rubber dicks, or cram vibrators down their throat to disable them, the way the severed arms do. Yes, I know there's ratings issues when anything adult is included, but the game's already such a gorefest that it's off limits to children anyways, and the thought of beating anyone, zombie or survivor, to death with a 10" rubber phallus is just priceless.

At the end of the day, despite all the flaws I've mentioned, Dead Rising is still one of the most enjoyable games I've played in a long, LONG time, and I hope they make a multi-platform sequel once they're done with Chop Till You Drop, but one last nit to pick, the only one that bothers me as much as the controls fuckery, is the lack of sandbox-ness in this sandbox game. To unlock certain areas, you must follow the story in certain parts, which ruins the whole point of non-linear freedom. If you could go anywhere without having to bother with the plot, it would make this game just that much better.

I enjoyed Dead Rising quite a bit too, until the inconsistant controls and insanely-demanding story timer crushed the fun down and a disc scratch rendered the people-mover part of the mall game-crashingly impassable. There's rumblings of a sequel, and if CapCom can get the controls squared away and make the main story less sudden-deathish I look forward to decapitating more shambling undead with my pruning-hook of doom.

-- Steve

Its about time a ps3 owner realizes that the 360 doesn't suck donkey balls, if I can suggest i would say get gears of war not 2 but the first one its a great game way better then 2 cause it's following the same formula as halo its starting to get up its own ass.

Well this tinder will catch fire quickly.

People hate on the 360 mostly because they've never really experienced what it has to offer.

Yeah, creatable weapons would have been nice. However, I must say that this is the only game in which weapon degeneration was a good idea. Without it, you could just grab the katana as soon as you walked in and keep it the rest of the game, 1-shotting everything. It would actually make it less fun.

Some of the most fun parts of the game for me were when I was far from any health, out of ammo, and down to whatever I could pick up because my chainsaw had just gutted out on me. Those moments had a frantic feeling, kind of like running from a Deathclaw when you're level 1.

that's one Sony fan boy down, 3 billion to go...

frozenshad:
that's one Sony fan boy down, 3 billion to go...

3 billion? Even for an exageration, thats a lot. Like, 'half the population of earth' a lot.

I played and loved Dead Rising despite the issues you mentioned above, though I still agree with you. I seem to be the only one who enjoyed making the juices; I just love spitfire too much I suppose.

frozenshad:
that's one Sony fan boy down, 3 billion to go...

What, can't he (or I) like a 360 game even if they're fanboys? I enjoyed Halo 3 and Gears 2 a bit whenever I go to a friends house, doesn't mean i'm not a fanboy anymore ;P

But i'm confused, for one I don't/didn't even know Khell had/has a PS3 let alone him being a Sony fanboy. Second, what's with the title? Thirdly, how did you sin? You just enjoyed a game on another system, so what?

But when this comes out for the Wii, I will definately pick it up sometimes. Don't have a 360 nor to I really care to get one.

Meh iv yet to touch a PS3 or PSP for that matter, maybe i will one day......WITH A FLAME-THROWER!!!!!

MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

havepie:
Its about time a ps3 owner realizes that the 360 doesn't suck donkey balls, if I can suggest i would say get gears of war not 2 but the first one its a great game way better then 2 cause it's following the same formula as halo its starting to get up its own ass.

*does a little Owns All Three Systems dance*

havepie:
Its about time a ps3 owner realizes that the 360 doesn't suck donkey balls, if I can suggest i would say get gears of war not 2 but the first one its a great game way better then 2 cause it's following the same formula as halo its starting to get up its own ass.

If you're trying to make an intelligent comment supporting the X-box 360 and titles, then you have failed. If you're going to defend your console, at least try not to sound like those penis drones that inhabit Live.

Also, Gears of War is available for the PC.

As for myself, I go for what I know to be reliable. In the same amount of time I've owned my PS3, numerous colleagues of mine were on their second to fourth X-box 360.

havepie:
Its about time a ps3 owner realizes that the 360 doesn't suck donkey balls, if I can suggest i would say get gears of war not 2 but the first one its a great game way better then 2 cause it's following the same formula as halo its starting to get up its own ass.

The controller sucks. And it makes you reboot on dirty disc errors. 360 = no cookie.

I have a 360 and I was under the impression that PS3's we're overpriced pieces of shit with blue ray players with no games, but hey point of view makes all the difference. If you keep playing Dead Rising (one of my fav games) don't under-estimate the power of magazines. Two magazines that prolong the use of one item and that items will last a LONG fucking time, even more so if you do it with the mini chain saw's you get once you kill that clown.

Nothing wrong with being a fan, everything wrong with being a fanboy.

@ Op - you really should try out some other Xbox360 games. It has the most impressive game library out of all the current gen consoles by a considerable margin.

I like all my systems...

I have my PS3 for games like Valkyria Chronicles
My 360 for everything else
My DS for one the go play
and even my Wii for when I feel like playing No More Heroes or my old Gamecube games.

I have to say for an enjoyable game there is a lot to pick at. Personally I have played a number or 360 games and find them to feel very Microsoft office like. They are playable by anyone, they look nice, and they get the job done. The just don't feel very organic. Kind of like the graphics. They are neat and shiny but not very natural looking.

havepie:
Its about time a ps3 owner realizes that the 360 doesn't suck donkey balls

Not a PS3 owner either. My roommate owns a 360 as my post said, and he also owns the Wii. When he moves, I plan to get my own Wii, but the other two current-gen consoles don't have enough games, or good enough games, for me to invest the absurd price for the machines. I have a PC that is a god among digital men, so I mainly stick to PC games.

And re: all the comments about trying the other 360 games... No. Dead rising offered something truly spectacular and rarely-to-never seen in games. If a game is available on PC, I prefer the PC version to console (Fable comes to mind). If it's cross-console, I prefer Sony over all others. Ever since the Playstation, I've been a fan of Sony's products, and I prefer the Playstation controller over all. The 360 has no other games I want that I can't get on PC, except for the Halo titles, but FPS gaming and consoles don't mix in my books.

havepie:

DeadlyYellow:

havepie:
Its about time a ps3 owner realizes that the 360 doesn't suck donkey balls, if I can suggest i would say get gears of war not 2 but the first one its a great game way better then 2 cause it's following the same formula as halo its starting to get up its own ass.

If you're trying to make an intelligent comment supporting the X-box 360 and titles, then you have failed. If you're going to defend your console, at least try not to sound like those penis drones that inhabit Live.

Also, Gears of War is available for the PC.

As for myself, I go for what I know to be reliable. In the same amount of time I've owned my PS3, numerous colleagues of mine were on their second to fourth X-box 360.

If you were trying to make a intelligent comment don't sound like one of those people with the aids in their mouths face it epic fail aids

I had no idea that my mouth had a face. Nor that "epic fail aids" was even an insult. Please do the rest of us 360 owners a favor, and stop posting here.

....On to the topic at hand, I played DR for a little while, but had to quit because I had no clue where to go. Why Capcom won't put out a patch for those of us without HD-TV, I will never know.

Also, what's with the 360 controller hate? I've used all three, and I find it to be the best by far.

qbert4ever:
Also, what's with the 360 controller hate?

Those of us who weren't blessed with shovel hands find it rather difficult to manage.

harhol:

qbert4ever:
Also, what's with the 360 controller hate?

Those of us who weren't blessed with shovel hands find it rather difficult to manage.

Really? I've had no trouble using the controller, except sometimes clicking left stick and on a few games you need to press two of letter buttons at the same time like Y+A and X+B which is difficult but that's why we have configurable controls.

*blink* I have serious difficulties understanding ergonomic complaints against the 360 controller, which I find to be extremely comfortable even for prolonged use. Then again, I couldn't understand why people weren't being crippled by the first Xbox's "Big Duke" original controller... so I guess it takes all kinds.

(I do agree that the D-pad sucks on it, though.)

-- Steve

I found the 360 controller to be just fine for nearly everything. Almost preferable when it comes to, at the very least, "pure" FPS games. (Aside from Halo, the ones that mix in vehicular sections for some reason play like garbage to me. Probably because the standard 'gas' and 'kill guy in center of screen' mappings are both RT, as opposed to standard PS3 fare where R1 is shoot and R2 is get your car moving.) It's more the original "Controller X" that bothered me, and most of the issues were resolved with "Controller S."

Only kind of game I can't play on a 360 controller is a one on one fighting game, but there's no argument when between controller choices when the arcade stick is an option.

*cough* *cough* Fanboy *cough*

PedroSteckecilo:

havepie:
Its about time a ps3 owner realizes that the 360 doesn't suck donkey balls, if I can suggest i would say get gears of war not 2 but the first one its a great game way better then 2 cause it's following the same formula as halo its starting to get up its own ass.

*does a little Owns All Three Systems dance*

Don't you mean four? Or are you a PC hater?

cuddly_tomato:
Nothing wrong with being a fan, everything wrong with being a fanboy.

@ Op - you really should try out some other Xbox360 games. It has the most impressive game library out of all the current gen consoles by a considerable margin.

This.
I have a PS3 and am far from blown away by the library. But it is still a young console and games like LBP & Mirrors Edge seem like a step in the right direction.
I am angling for a 360 for Christmas though.

qbert4ever:

havepie:

DeadlyYellow:

havepie:
Its about time a ps3 owner realizes that the 360 doesn't suck donkey balls, if I can suggest i would say get gears of war not 2 but the first one its a great game way better then 2 cause it's following the same formula as halo its starting to get up its own ass.

If you're trying to make an intelligent comment supporting the X-box 360 and titles, then you have failed. If you're going to defend your console, at least try not to sound like those penis drones that inhabit Live.

Also, Gears of War is available for the PC.

As for myself, I go for what I know to be reliable. In the same amount of time I've owned my PS3, numerous colleagues of mine were on their second to fourth X-box 360.

If you were trying to make a intelligent comment don't sound like one of those people with the aids in their mouths face it epic fail aids

I had no idea that my mouth had a face. Nor that "epic fail aids" was even an insult. Please do the rest of us 360 owners a favor, and stop posting here.

....On to the topic at hand, I played DR for a little while, but had to quit because I had no clue where to go. Why Capcom won't put out a patch for those of us without HD-TV, I will never know.

Also, what's with the 360 controller hate? I've used all three, and I find it to be the best by far.

do us all a favor and stop giving people aids with your mouth your giving all people with the epic fail aids syndrome a bad name and p.s. quite lying with your mouth as you do with another man

Wow, I'm still confused as to how the hell this became a fanboy thread.

I mean seriously, did some of you actually read the first post? It was basically a review, but then again anything by Khell is a rant :O

havepie:
do us all a favor and stop giving people remaining drivel deleted

You, uh, might want to do yourself a favour and stop making that hole you're digging for yourself any deeper. I enjoy my 360, myself, but not enough to go all "console warz" about it and make lame insults over my choice of magic box of sand.

-- Steve

This thread was always a bomb waiting to go off. Hell, I didn't even weigh into this, and it became a console war. I think we need a lock on this.

And for the record, at this point in time the 360's Library is not that muchg more impressive than the Ps3's, due to the past year mainly.

Anton P. Nym:

havepie:
do us all a favor and stop giving people remaining drivel deleted

You, uh, might want to do yourself a favour and stop making that hole you're digging for yourself any deeper. I enjoy my 360, myself, but not enough to go all "console warz" about it and make lame insults over my choice of magic box of sand.

-- Steve

first of thats what she said
secondly i enjoy my 360
thirdly aids
fourthly superaids
and finaly i think people should really stop giving each other aids with their mouths making people without super aids look awesome because they all have magical powers that make people fly like ducks that go ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM because aids is on the 5 property of mater aids aids and aids making super aids look like aids in a bucket with a side of hiv that causes super aids so its like super hiv because it causes super aids but it doesnt cause aids goes straight to superaids because of in 1972 aids was cool back then and people were all like "want sum aidsaidshooker" and they were all like "aidstastic endevers" and then they all went to the magical coffee shop that had aids flowing out of the aids sac that people loved to watch aids going into the coffee that cause super cancer but thats another story for another day.

harhol:

qbert4ever:
Also, what's with the 360 controller hate?

Those of us who weren't blessed with shovel hands find it rather difficult to manage.

What on earth are 'shovel hands' when they're at home?

Amnestic:

harhol:

qbert4ever:
Also, what's with the 360 controller hate?

Those of us who weren't blessed with shovel hands find it rather difficult to manage.

What on earth are 'shovel hands' when they're at home?

Spade hands of course!

Bling Cat:

Amnestic:

harhol:

qbert4ever:
Also, what's with the 360 controller hate?

Those of us who weren't blessed with shovel hands find it rather difficult to manage.

What on earth are 'shovel hands' when they're at home?

Spade hands of course!

And what do people who aren't racists call them?

Amnestic:
What on earth are 'shovel hands' when they're at home?

Hands shaped like shovels. Very big hands, basically.

Urban Dictionary says: 'Shovel hands' is a derogatory name given to a person (usually male) with notably large and indelicate hands.

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