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Paperboy Posts: 35 Joined: 31 Oct 2008 | |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 847 Joined: 26 Nov 2008 | It was all just a dream... |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2644 Joined: 20 Jul 2008 | Here is a message for the stoopid peoples, this thread will obviously contain spoilers. Red Alert 3: When the premier betrays you, saw it from a mile away. Though you will see that coming a lot easier if you have played RA 2. For me, RA3 just had RA2's story with different names for characters. Warhammer: Mark of Chaos: Another betrayal. When playing through the Chaos campaign Thorgar gets betrayed by the chaos sorcerer that helps you. The writing is so horrible that you can figure that out from the first chapter. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1148 Joined: 26 Nov 2008 | Good - FFT, FF6, MGS3, Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 592 Joined: 19 Nov 2008 | The ultimate plot twist: realising I can't get the three hours of my life back that I wasted on Dark Sector |
Copy Clerk Posts: 105 Joined: 2 Jul 2008 | "I'm sorry but the princess is in another castle" had to be said. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2894 Joined: 3 Jan 2008 | Good: Golden Sun, FF6, Super Robot Wars with the EoE scenario |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1083 Joined: 11 May 2008 | Bioshock has an awesome plot twist...one which I will not go into detail on, as i feel even putting it in spoiler tags would spoiler it somewhat |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1495 Joined: 29 Jun 2008 | No More Heroes! Don't want spoilers but-the end is crazy! |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3085 Joined: 13 Jul 2008 | Warcraft 3, when Arthas goes all teen angst on you. OK, so it was pretty inevitable, but the cut-scene in which he kills his father remains one of the best I've ever seen. In fact, all that games cut-scenes were brilliant. |
Muckraker Posts: 346 Joined: 7 Jun 2008 | The Jak series had some unpredicatble plot twists. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1979 Joined: 24 Sep 2008 | The best for me was Knights of the Old Republic (the revelation regarding your past). I didn't see it coming at all, and yet it didn't feel out of place. The worst was Final Fantasy VIII, which was a terrible game anyway; the specific point that I'm referring to is when you find out that all of the characters knew each other as children, but then forgot. It seemed really, really contrived to me at the time, and since I was about 13, that means it was really fucking contrived. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2111 Joined: 15 Jun 2008 | Mother 3 had both a good and a bad plot twist. |
Muckraker Posts: 323 Joined: 21 Apr 2008 |
Yeah. I have to put my vote on that one too. I didn't see it coming, and when the whole thing is revealed I was pretty impressed. Hands down, I didn't see it coming, even after I walked through a room full of spoilers. |
Beat Writer Posts: 151 Joined: 26 Oct 2008 | Y'know, I think that so far, every Metal Gear game in the series has had some kind of incredible plot twist that even I, MG fanboy that I am, never even saw it coming. To use an older game in the series as an example, MGS2 - We learn at the end that all of the "Patriots" have been dead for 100 years, even though they're still running the country. Worst plot twist ever - Definitely Assassin's Creed. I honestly felt betrayed by that ending. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 854 Joined: 17 Sep 2008 | MGS2 is just one big plot twist in the Plant Chapter. I loved every second. Not exactly the worst plot twist but the most expected (and most needed) was Ocelot's phone call to the CIA at the end of MGS3. Since this entire thread will go with more MGS, I could figure out why Ocelot was The Boss's son. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 116 Joined: 22 Aug 2008 | I thought the twist in Star Ocean: Till the End of Time was really stupid. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 930 Joined: 9 Nov 2008 |
It was a bit of a yes and no for me. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 498 Joined: 5 Oct 2008 |
FF8 has the two worst twists, because there's that and there's the whole retarded twist at the end that the real big bad is someone else you never even heard who's thrown in at the last minute. |
Red Guard Posts: 3570 Joined: 27 Mar 2008 |
The real achievement there is that the initial plot is just weak enough to inspire incredulity without being so bad as to make you stop playing. And then you realize that most of the things that had you scratching your head thinking "That's dumb" or "Hmm, that doesn't make sense" were actually lies all along. (And this effect works even if you figure out the secret before the big reveal!) -- Alex |
Press Junketeer Posts: 383 Joined: 12 Sep 2008 |
Yes. Bioshock's twist was also pretty good. Certainly wouldn't have expected that if I hadn't heard about it before playing. But mentioning that game brings back memories of System Shock 2. Also - obligatory mention of Aeris' death. Surprised that I'm the first to mention it. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2360 Joined: 14 Sep 2008 |
Like in FF IX. God I hated that. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 498 Joined: 5 Oct 2008 | Planescape: Torment is like awesome twist city. Some of my favorites: Plus there's so many twists about your history and your involvement with the other characters. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2211 Joined: 16 Aug 2008 | bad: Good: Golden Sun, i really hope they do 3 how do you do those spoiler tag drop-downs? |
Press Junketeer Posts: 498 Joined: 5 Oct 2008 | Just write (spoiler="text you want to show")text you want to hide(/spoiler), but use square brackets instead of the round brackets. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1132 Joined: 11 Jul 2008 | best - Second Sight worst - Bioshock |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3205 Joined: 10 Nov 2007 |
It's far worse when her identical clone with a lightsabre, Bastila, does the same thing in KotOR, because you could see it coming a mile off (She even says in the trailer/intro "I'll never turn to the dark side", to which the audience inevitably must respond "oh yes you will", pantomime style, and because she gets captured in a stupid scripted sequence by jumping in to "save you" in a fight where you're scraping the decks with Darth Chinless' face.
The end of disc 2 of a four disc game is a funny definition of "last minute". Most people would consider that to be "half way". |
Press Junketeer Posts: 351 Joined: 12 Sep 2008 |
Definitely Bioshock but also Pokemon Mystery Dungeon... Yes yes i know its sad but it has to be said! That game had an epic plot twist. Worst... Hmmm thats quite a difficult one... Probably FF8 - As loads of people have said, who didn't see that coming haha :) |
Press Junketeer Posts: 357 Joined: 19 Oct 2008 | Worst. Not sure, but most recent is Mirror's Edge. Another worst, Morrowind: Tribunal And now a word *I mean worst* from Oblivion. Oh, and FFXII. Don't even need to say it, do I? Never really had a GOOD plot twist. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1521 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 |
Thankfully that wasn't the big plot twist in that game. The bigger one was far better. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 717 Joined: 4 Feb 2008 | "No, Jon - You are the alien!" In all seriousness, probably MGS2 would be my candidate for the worst. The ending is so infamously convuluted that it makes it difficult to follow. Best is either Bioshock or Kotor. |
BANNED Posts: 3780 Joined: 9 Sep 2008 | Bioshock and KOTOR are the two most jaw-dropping ones I can think of. The worst one from a game I've played recently is in Fable. User was banned for: We are all related? a odd little theory. (Permanent) |
Press Junketeer Posts: 468 Joined: 18 Oct 2008 |
"And then Jon was an alien. Teh Edn?". Who saw that coming? |
Beat Writer Posts: 145 Joined: 16 Aug 2008 | I loathe plot twists in general. Basically they all amount to the writer saying to the audience 'Ha ha I tricked you, you're stupid.' Which is even worse when you see it coming, in which case the writer is saying 'I underestimated your intelligence because I thought I was so much cleverer then I really am'. Anyway the worst is Monkey Island 2. Way to ruin one of the greatest adventure game series ever chuckleheads. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 6 Joined: 29 Nov 2008 | When Fallout 3 forced you to kill yourself (or Lyons) despite giving you three radiation immune companions (Fawkes, Charon and the robot). Fawkes actually told me suicide was my destiny and he wouldn't interfere with it - despite that he could have prevented anyone from dying with no risk to himself. What the fuck, Bethesda? |
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Subject says most of it.
For me the best plot twists happened in two games.
Baldur's gate 1: When I found out that Seravok is actually Kovares spelled backwards, And that I spoke to him that whole time.
Baldur's gate 2: When I found out Imoen was a bhaalspawn aswell, I had no idea. :(
Worst plot twist:
Neverwinter nights 1: When Lady Aribeth turns evil, I mean, That was so expected, At the first episode when you find clues about that Cult, When you get the idea that the cult has a symbol of an eye, And then at the end of the first chapter, You see a cinematic with Lady Aribeth holding a sword that's on it's hilt was the symbol of the cult.
Feel free to post your own Best/Worst plot twists