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Copy Clerk  Posts: 118 Joined: 20 Nov 2008    | Chrono Cross had a good twist, having you switch characters with the main baddie. Assassin's Creed's worst twist was not that you had to fight the master, but that the whole end of the game after that only fulfilled the purpose of setting up a sequel. That game gave me the least amount of closure on anything I'd ever played. |
On the Record  Posts: 5490 Joined: 13 Aug 2008    |
I will admit to liking the twist in Assassin's Creed, insoforth as it really didn't effect the gameplay that much, just provided a sort of framing narration. Plus, people have to remember that they were explicitly told "Make a game that we can turn into a new IP". They were told to set up not just a single sequel, but an entire series. For me, the worst plot twist was in Overlord when you found out . ARGH! The one game where you were supposed to be playing an evil overlord that was just evil, nothing else, and then oops! You're not as evil as you thought! |
On the Record  Posts: 5973 Joined: 7 Feb 2008  | KOTOR 1 has my personal favorite plot twist in a game. I was litereally shocked the first time I experienced it. Also Bioshock hit us with a brilliant commentary on freewill and how we play games through their plot twist (even if the game REALLY went down hill after that). Silent Hill 2's twist is AMAZING. Bad twists... The Atlas's Identity twist in Bioshock was really lame. FFVII's plot twist was okay, but it was so poorly translated it took me years to figure out what the hell was actually going on. FFIX also had too many stupid twists. They unfortunately ruined several perfectly likeable characters because EVERYONE had a bloody twist. Annoying! |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 625 Joined: 12 Jul 2008     | Tales of Symphonia had some good plot twists and some cliched plot twists. Even the sequel contains a plot twist right off the bat. I mean, you're pretty much told that the main character this time around is out to kill Lloyd. That just stops you and makes you wonder, "Wait a minute! What happened to the noble idealist from the first game?" |
On the Record  Posts: 5391 Joined: 14 Jun 2008  | Best game twist ever... KOTOR 1, when it is revealed that you are revan And also, Golden Sun takes the win for How to turn a game on it's head in a single cut scene That's all the imput I have on this thread |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 443 Joined: 14 Nov 2007   | Best: Baldur's Gate 2: Yoshimo. That was the best twist because I lost a party member that was funny, likeable, and useful as hell. It also helps that I did not see it coming from a bloody mile away. Worst: Yuri's Revenge- the entire game premise. Yuri's badly played-out betrayal of the Soviets was cliche and barely tolerable as a twist. It doesn't help that the game continues to pass it off as a surprise. |
Paperboy Posts: 13 Joined: 24 Nov 2008 | Best plot twist: the last half-hour of Shadow of the Colossus. I thought they might take it in that direction, but I didn't foresee how awesomely they would handle it. A few worsts: Final Fantasy 4 where ancillary characters perform heroic, self-sacrificing gestures to swelling strings...and then somehow make it out okay and reunite with the party. The first time it happened just took a lot of the oomph out of the story for me--it was impossible after that to take the story arc seriously. And God of War 2: not necessarily a bad twist, finding out who Kratos's father is, but the developers assumed that players hadn't found this out in the bonus cinemas of God of War. It's like watching Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness--no continuity among them whatsoever. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 121 Joined: 10 Nov 2008   | I have a question: has anyone played a game (probably an RPG, but whatever has an experience system) with one character you hella loved, and made them like your strongest guy, and near the end they turn on you and they never rejoin? It is something I'm expecting has or will happen in Final Fantasy... Also, note that if you will reply, don't mention a character who you only get a short time, so don't waste all of our time. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 515 Joined: 22 May 2008 | The best one for me was the one in Bioshock. Seriously, I never saw it coming. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2367 Joined: 14 Sep 2008     | Now I remember a great plot twist. In Baten Kaitos: |
Red Guard  Posts: 3509 Joined: 18 Sep 2008   | Some of what I'm about to say has been said...but I can't help it: KOTOR: The 'Past' reveal. Crazy. I didn't see it coming. Baldur's Gate: BAD plot twists: |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1120 Joined: 22 Nov 2008   |
I almost wondered if it was SO obvious, that it wouldn't happen XD |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1350 Joined: 22 Aug 2008    | Rise to Honor: Oh my old partner was secretly working and running the triads? I didn't see that at all...not that I expected a good story out of such a linear game. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 53 Joined: 27 Aug 2008   | Seriously, KOTOR II would have been a MUCH better game with the restored content. I think the ending would be a lot better if Atton had been tortured + killed and Bao Dur sacrificing himself. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 163 Joined: 1 Dec 2008  | I agree with quite a few here, namely that Bioshock, System Shock 2 and KOTOR have some InsaneSauce twists in it that completely took me by surprise. I always thought that the one in FEAR is kinda good... ...as you have to piece it together yourself, with no real 'bam this is the twist' part to it. The random twist in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. should also probably get a mention, as completing the related quest after the twist seems rather suicidal. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3467 Joined: 6 Nov 2008   |
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Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1566 Joined: 8 Oct 2008   | Am I the only one who saw the revan surprise from a mile off? The game couldn't stop yacking on about the force being used to wipe someone's mind and how it changes people, add to that your character has no history but when around bastila she has flash backs of a fight with revan because she is ultra force sensitive. For a more surprising plot twist there was going to the jedi ruins in kotor 2 after assembling the jedi council, only to have them randomly try to kill you, then kreia pops out of nowhere and kills them. Oh and Demon_Zeya, never say "hella good" again. |
Muckraker  Posts: 251 Joined: 22 Nov 2008  | I really like KOTORs twist even though it made me feel stupid because I should have seen it coming. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1155 Joined: 26 Nov 2008 | Final Fantasy Tactics I get the feeling Square doesn't appreciate Christianity and the Catholic Church. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1155 Joined: 26 Nov 2008 | Bad - MGS2 Edit - The glitching game over screen was cool the first time though. The second time you played through it however...it became rather annoying because you knew you weren't dead. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 108 Joined: 24 Apr 2008  | Good: Bioshock- It was a great plot twist, now if only the ending didn't suck so hard. Meh: Assassin's Creed- You can see the plot "twist" from a mile away but the story is actually good. Yeah I know it's an "ancient cult" but I think assassin's creed pulls it off pretty well and the piece together the story yourself element is a nice change. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 195 Joined: 25 Nov 2008 | Would you kindly pick up that short-wave radio? |
BANNED  Posts: 932 Joined: 17 Aug 2008  |
Dude, who hasn't played that yet? And yeah, that one took me totally by surprise too. User was banned for: Oh god, bees.. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2770 Joined: 13 Feb 2008    | Best one either has to go to Bioshock or Jade Empire. |
BANNED Posts: 932 Joined: 17 Aug 2008 |
Oh well, at least her little spiel in the Jedi temple when you kill all the masters was good. User was banned for: Oh god, bees.. (Permanent) |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 395 Joined: 21 May 2008   |
...That was the whole point though. Raiden's story WAS a copy of MGS. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 395 Joined: 21 May 2008 |
...I haven't played it yet |
Muckraker Posts: 251 Joined: 22 Nov 2008 |
Jade Empire was too cliche for me. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2770 Joined: 13 Feb 2008 |
What was? The entire game or the plot twist? I mean, the twist itself wasn't all that original, but they set it up so excellently. You feel like you're about to finish the game right before it happens. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 157 Joined: 4 Nov 2007 | For me, the MGS series has some of the best and some of the worst plot twists. Best: MGS4. Right at the end when Big Boss suddenly appears and stops you from killing yourself. For me, that was really unexpected. Worst: MGS2. Your entire journey has been controlled to replicate the Shadow Moses incident to us as VR training for later soldiers? It's not that it was particularly predictable, it's just so stupid! Also worth mentioning (for best): |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 105 Joined: 11 Jun 2008  | A rather interesting one was Dead Space... |
Beat Writer Posts: 163 Joined: 14 Apr 2008  | Worst: World of Warcraft - What?! 10 more levels?! NOOOOOOO!!!! |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2693 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 |
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Press Junketeer  Posts: 375 Joined: 23 Jul 2008  |
ahahahahahaha Best: Jak 2 where Kor, the old guy that helped you... And the little kid that is around for most of the game actually is... Best again: Jak 3, Jak = Yes, i liked Jak and Daxter |
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Really? No one's said this yet?
Dead Space!
Major spoiler ahead. Seriously. Dont read this unless you have beaten the game or you really don't care about the ending being spoiled.
Awesome twist.