i just recently heard that the new game FEAR 2 is being banned in australia
i don't know but it seems to me that every action game is being banned in australia
tell me your opinions

Well from the fact that every game take longer to come out in australia i would'nt be surprised.

I bet you this is Yahtzee's doing!

This is why I'm never moving to Australia.

Well, this and many other things.

Shadow Tyrant:
This is why I'm never moving to Australia.

Well, this and many other things.

I think we all share a mutual fear of dingos and 'roos.

Well I guess I people dont need to say this but I think its an awesome level of conservatism and stupidity. Its just like when people burned books because it was bad for women. I dont think a child should be able to play gta, but thats where the people who work at the game stores come in. Simlpy dont sell it to those who dont have an ID or parent. It should be the same with videogames as in movies.

Here in Norway, we've never had a killing or inciddent or even just a crime that were linked to videogames, except maybe stealing videogames. They dont regulate much here, the reason we didnt get the explict version of manhunt 2 here was that britian stopped it, and then take two didnt want to release it in europe.

I played the demo, and I must say, I didn't see anything that was any worse than a regular fps, but just playing the demo doesn't make an expert though. Anyone know specifically why it was banned? I'm guessing blood, gore or violence.

Here we go again, my beloved country screwing me over again. Here's what Australia does. We jump on a bandwagon and then take it to far, case in point: F.E.A.R 2. And almost Fallout 3. Why was FEAR banned? Anyone know? Does it have morphine or painkillers as health or something?

Oh, and Gormers, the thing is before videogames came along they only had movies. So the big bad lawyers picked on movies as why kids were violent, now we have videogames so now they pick on that. Sure, maybe some kids do, like in America when 3 kids beat up a guy, even knocking his teeth out because they were imitating Niko Bellic, but they had a looooong history of violence so why blame the game? Because that's what the media does.

Sognar and Shadow, if you do ever come to Australia, come to Brisbane. No scary 'roo's that will jump out at 'ya. And Dingo's I suppose... But I think there up to something. I'm never going to New Zealand, all because of the movie Black Sheep, they can go get eaten while I'm happy playing FallOut 3.

CountFenring:
I played the demo, and I must say, I didn't see anything that was any worse than a regular fps, but just playing the demo doesn't make an expert though. Anyone know specifically why it was banned? I'm guessing blood, gore or violence.

It's too "spooky." It'll give the little'uns nightmares or something. Also probably too much blood. Like how in the Australian version of GTA:IV, dead people don't leave blood pools.

Shadow Tyrant:

CountFenring:
I played the demo, and I must say, I didn't see anything that was any worse than a regular fps, but just playing the demo doesn't make an expert though. Anyone know specifically why it was banned? I'm guessing blood, gore or violence.

It's too "spooky." It'll give the little'uns nightmares or something. Also probably too much blood. Like how in the Australian version of GTA:IV, dead people don't leave blood pools.

We also don't get to see Niko get a B***Job. I'd say Gore, not horror would be as to why it is banned. I remember the first FEAR was gory.

Shadow Tyrant:

CountFenring:
I played the demo, and I must say, I didn't see anything that was any worse than a regular fps, but just playing the demo doesn't make an expert though. Anyone know specifically why it was banned? I'm guessing blood, gore or violence.

It's too "spooky." It'll give the little'uns nightmares or something. Also probably too much blood. Like how in the Australian version of GTA:IV, dead people don't leave blood pools.

Kind of silly isnt it? That as long as there is no blood, everything is okay.

Why don't they just introduce a R18+ rating here?

Fluffles:
Why don't they just introduce a R18+ rating here?

Because that would be to easy.

Gormers1:

Shadow Tyrant:

CountFenring:
I played the demo, and I must say, I didn't see anything that was any worse than a regular fps, but just playing the demo doesn't make an expert though. Anyone know specifically why it was banned? I'm guessing blood, gore or violence.

It's too "spooky." It'll give the little'uns nightmares or something. Also probably too much blood. Like how in the Australian version of GTA:IV, dead people don't leave blood pools.

Kind of silly isnt it? That as long as there is no blood, everything is okay.

It's stupid how some games are denied blood in Australia. GTA4 is a great example, but we have Gears of War were you chop locusts in half with a chainsaw bayonet!

Gears has a censor.

songnar:

Shadow Tyrant:
This is why I'm never moving to Australia.

Well, this and many other things.

I think we all share a mutual fear of dingos and 'roos.

I'm sorry, but the way that's worded warrants the following:

Dingos and 'Roos, Dingos and 'Roos, I'm a little lad for dingos and 'Roos!

Anywho, as Yahtzee once said, Australia tends to like chasing after USA and the UK's banned-games bandwagon.

Jeez, quit whining and torrent it already.

Michael_McCloud:

Anywho, as Yahtzee once said, Australia tends to like chasing after USA and the UK's banned-games bandwagon.

Except that the US (And UK to my knowledge) haven't banned FEAR 2.

The only thing we have to fear is... F.E.A.R Itself!

Austrailia doesn't have an 18+ rating because their constitution requires a unanimous decision for such things, and there is quote "one dickhole in the south" holding it up as he is completly against it. Potentially, assuming he has a strong conservative voter base, that "one dickhole in the south" could be in power for life (assuming Austrailia doesn't have term limitations, like the US lacks on it's senators). Which means no 18+ for Austrailia for the next... 40-60 years.

Shadow Tyrant:

Michael_McCloud:

Anywho, as Yahtzee once said, Australia tends to like chasing after USA and the UK's banned-games bandwagon.

Except that the US (And UK to my knowledge) haven't banned FEAR 2.

No, but they do like keeping a lookout for games they deem inappropriate. By that logic, they saw something in it that we didn't.

TsunamiWombat:
The only thing we have to fear is... F.E.A.R Itself!

I came in hoping to make that exact pun. Curse you sir! Curse you!

The ratings system for games was introduced about a decade ago, before the Wii came out and helped skew the average age for gamers in our favour. Back then, politicians could justify their flawed scheme by saying, "Oh look, the stats say only children play these things, what's the point of having an adult rating". Back then, we did try to point out the flaws in their thinking, but we weren't of voting age yet, so we were ignored and our static, backwards rating system came into being. Now that games people want to play are being banned, as opposed to Night Trap and Tentacle Rape Fantasy XXIII, and since the average gamer age is now well past the compulsory voting age, there's pressure to have the thing changed. Unfortunately, a unanimous decision is required from all our state and commonwealth attorney generals. The only one who is against the inclusion of an R rating for games is the South Australian attourney general. He happens to sit in a safe electorate in a conservative state, so it's in his interests to demonise gaming, as it keeps the loonies voting for him.

Seeing as there's no chance that the government will go about changing the system, so one dissenting member can't ruin it for everything else, what with them pushing for a flawed and unpopular internet censorship scheme, the only hope is that with enough people shouting at him, Michael Atkinson, the dissenting cocksnark, decides that it would be in his interest to approve this and then claim that the heavens opened and God himself spoke unto him, telling him that sticking an R rating on every game under the sun and having them kept under lock and key will protect children from their sinful, sinful influence.

yea hon the artical i read it said it was banned for extreme voilence and blood

Thats exactly what they said about Fallout3, and yet it IS for sale here. Just ignore those politisions, they'll go away on there own.

ANTI-SANTA:
Thats exactly what they said about Fallout3, and yet it IS for sale here. Just ignore those politisions, they'll go away on there own.

Only after they leave their droppings all over it so it gets reduced to MA15 which is still too old for children.

scnj:

TsunamiWombat:
The only thing we have to fear is... F.E.A.R Itself!

I came in hoping to make that exact pun. Curse you sir! Curse you!

Mhmmwahahahahahahahaha *twirls his mustache, goes off to tie someone to a railroad*

Seriously? It's not that.. Hm.. well the blood physics rock.

Right... I just find it funny that, by not having the R18+ rating, people like me can walk into a store and buy a game that would require me to be at least 17+ in the US. 'Think of the children' my arse.

Im starting to get less, and less suprised every time a game gets banned in Australia. A modified version of the game will probably be released, and the best of luck to any Australians fighting for an adult rating.

It is amazing that violent videogames arent highly thought of here considering that when i saw saw3 (lulz), there was prepubescent girls (=not hot = 12 year olds) watching a violent and gory film with their parents.

Children cant handle headshots in gta3 but a man drowning in a pool of rotting pig is tottally ok.

*sigh*

Oh well, at least we've also banned real guns.

Punch the wall and cry like a woman?

the worst thing about this fear banning was they never gave an explanation for it. also this is all Michael Atkinson's fault as all other officials are fine with it. there was even an interview with him by a game show. http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/stories/s2428274.htm

also this is just stupid because without the R rating parents see a game and think well it's only MA can't be that bad for my little timmy. know these games would normally be rated R in any other country and if it was R no parents in their right mind would buy it for their kids.

and who said it would be the gore? gears had a level where you are literally swimming in blood.

Well the first F.E.A.R had a creepy little girl in it so maybe it is banned for child killing?

Still games should not be banned unless they have pro-terrorism subliminal messages. We should just be warned of what they contain. I vote for "gratuitous violence and gore" on gaming boxes.

Shadow Tyrant:
This is why I'm never moving to Australia.

Well, this and many other things.

Yeah, me too. I am kind of sad about it though, Australians seem to be pretty nice people, and they do have some lovely women. Apparently, Aussie women find Midwestern American men's (what I am) accents attractive. Too bad there are none around me. :( Ah well, there's always Eastern Europe!

jezz8me:
Well the first F.E.A.R had a creepy little girl in it so maybe it is banned for child killing?

Still games should not be banned unless they have pro-terrorism subliminal messages. We should just be warned of what they contain. I vote for "gratuitous violence and gore" on gaming boxes.

isn't that just promotional...