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Gone Gonzo
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Okay, keeping in mind the 360's head issues, and me notiicng it's back does get hot, i'm looking for ways to keep it cool without buying one of those fans that voids my warranty. I've got 3 fans blowing on the thing at all times- one from the right, one from behind, and one from back and left. Any other suggestions (short of ducttaping an ice pack underneath the little folding card table it's on)?

Gone Gonzo
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TsunamiWombat:
Okay, keeping in mind the 360's head issues, and me notiicng it's back does get hot, i'm looking for ways to keep it cool without buying one of those fans that voids my warranty. I've got 3 fans blowing on the thing at all times- one from the right, one from behind, and one from back and left. Any other suggestions (short of ducttaping an ice pack underneath the little folding card table it's on)?

Good grammar goes a long way. But seriously, try even more fans. Put some 80cm fans blowing on the back. Other than that, if you can, stick it in front of an AC vent.

Gone Gonzo
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Have you got it standing up? Don't do that. It blocks the lower fan. Have plenty of room up the back for the hot air to escape. Let cool air flow past the xbox (it seems you do that anyway) and try not to play it too much during scorching hot weather.

Thats about all you do really.

Gone Gonzo
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I just leave it on the shelf well ventilated and it works wonders. 3 years no problems

Gone Gonzo
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Yeah mine died last summer in March, I played it too much in the heat. Don't play it excessively while it's hot out. Also, try and install your games on the HDD to keep it cooler.

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Now that you bought a 360, are we really going to be shelled with this little 'xbox issue' type of topic every couple of days? :p

Well the I don't own a console but I do know how to take care of one, number one rule, don't put it directly on a fuzzy carpet otherwise the fan will suck up the hairs and it'll create a mess. Also don't leave it too near your big ass tv as the heat from it might make the console overheat. Oh and never leave the console standing, let it rest sideways.

For your heating issue well, I don't really know, try putting it near an AC?

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Gone Gonzo
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Weld a metal elevated grill to put the 360 on so the 360 can breathe from all angles. Note: Do not weld the grill to the 360.

Gone Gonzo
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Richard Groovy Pants:
Now that you bought a 360, are we really going to be shelled with this little 'xbox issue' type of topic every couple of days? :p

Well the I don't own a console but I do know how to take care of one, number one rule, don't put it directly on a fuzzy carpet otherwise the fan will suck up the hairs and it'll create a mess. Also don't leave it too near your big ass tv as the heat from it might make the console overheat. Oh and never leave the console standing, let it rest sideways.

For your heating issue well, I don't really know, try putting it near an AC?

Hey, I spent alot of money on this damn thing, and I more highly consider the opinions of the people here then anything I could google. Get your answers from real gamers, not self help websites.

Gone Gonzo
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TsunamiWombat:

Richard Groovy Pants:
Now that you bought a 360, are we really going to be shelled with this little 'xbox issue' type of topic every couple of days? :p

Well the I don't own a console but I do know how to take care of one, number one rule, don't put it directly on a fuzzy carpet otherwise the fan will suck up the hairs and it'll create a mess. Also don't leave it too near your big ass tv as the heat from it might make the console overheat. Oh and never leave the console standing, let it rest sideways.

For your heating issue well, I don't really know, try putting it near an AC?

Hey, I spent alot of money on this damn thing, and I more highly consider the opinions of the people here then anything I could google. Get your answers from real gamers, not self help websites.

My advice is from just personal experience, thank you.

Pulitzer Laureate
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I hate to say this again but they should have used up that 'years head start' looking at their old design and working out bugs like this. That being said A few short term solutions include putting ice packs in a fluffy towel and putting it on or next to the system, or definalty under it where the power supply would be. One under and one above the supply would be best as it would 'trap' the cold air more in the supply itself but if not it would work best under. Above might be ok too but not as much so, Thermodynamics are your friend.

Barring this though Try just having one fan pushed right against the back where the main fan is. That would at least help rush the hot air out faster and give it a bit more cooling. A high-end all metal floor fan would be best.

Press Junketeer
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Placing the console close to an AC may be detrimental. Water condensation can appear and that would be disastrous to your console.

Other than common sense (e.g. placing the console on a solid surface with plenty of space between the console and other electronics plus proper room air ventilation) is your best bet.

I've heard praying helps, but then again, I'm not religious.

TerraMGP:
Try just having one fan pushed right against the back where the main fan is. That would at least help rush the hot air out faster and give it a bit more cooling. A high-end all metal floor fan would be best.

The rear fans are exhausts, designed to carry hot air out of the console. By placing a fan that blows air inside the console, you're trapping in the hot air.

Gone Gonzo
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crimsondynamics:
Placing the console close to an AC may be detrimental. Water condensation can appear and that would be disastrous to your console.

Other than common sense (e.g. placing the console on a solid surface with plenty of space between the console and other electronics plus proper room air ventilation) is your best bet.

I've heard praying helps, but then again, I'm not religious.

TerraMGP:
Try just having one fan pushed right against the back where the main fan is. That would at least help rush the hot air out faster and give it a bit more cooling. A high-end all metal floor fan would be best.

The rear fans are exhausts, designed to carry hot air out of the console. By placing a fan that blows air inside the console, you're trapping in the hot air.

So I don't want to blow directly into the console from behind? What about from right or left, or front?

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crimsondynamics:
Placing the console close to an AC may be detrimental. Water condensation can appear and that would be disastrous to your console.

Other than common sense (e.g. placing the console on a solid surface with plenty of space between the console and other electronics plus proper room air ventilation) is your best bet.

I've heard praying helps, but then again, I'm not religious.

TerraMGP:
Try just having one fan pushed right against the back where the main fan is. That would at least help rush the hot air out faster and give it a bit more cooling. A high-end all metal floor fan would be best.

The rear fans are exhausts, designed to carry hot air out of the console. By placing a fan that blows air inside the console, you're trapping in the hot air.

Oh duh, sorry tired and so a bit dislexic at the moment. No youd want it to be blowing AWAY from the console. When he said blowing on my tired brain was trying to think of wind-tunneling it. No you want to aim the fan to blow away from the case and put the exhaust fan behind it. It will suck more air out.

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TsunamiWombat:

crimsondynamics:
Placing the console close to an AC may be detrimental. Water condensation can appear and that would be disastrous to your console.

Other than common sense (e.g. placing the console on a solid surface with plenty of space between the console and other electronics plus proper room air ventilation) is your best bet.

I've heard praying helps, but then again, I'm not religious.

TerraMGP:
Try just having one fan pushed right against the back where the main fan is. That would at least help rush the hot air out faster and give it a bit more cooling. A high-end all metal floor fan would be best.

The rear fans are exhausts, designed to carry hot air out of the console. By placing a fan that blows air inside the console, you're trapping in the hot air.

So I don't want to blow directly into the console from behind? What about from right or left, or front?

If you want to blow air into the console, locate the intake and blow air in there. Having said that, you are best off just following the manufacturer's recommendations. A stand-up fan will help, but use it for general air circulation around the console, not directly at the console.

Like any other piece of electronics where temperatures need to be cooled, it's not so much the number of fans you have blowing in or sucking out air - it's the overall airflow design that is important, and unlike a PC where you can tinker to your heart's content with fans and hardware placement, you're stuck with the 360's innards (lest you open the case which will void your warranty).

TerraMGP:

crimsondynamics:
Placing the console close to an AC may be detrimental. Water condensation can appear and that would be disastrous to your console.

Other than common sense (e.g. placing the console on a solid surface with plenty of space between the console and other electronics plus proper room air ventilation) is your best bet.

I've heard praying helps, but then again, I'm not religious.

TerraMGP:
Try just having one fan pushed right against the back where the main fan is. That would at least help rush the hot air out faster and give it a bit more cooling. A high-end all metal floor fan would be best.

The rear fans are exhausts, designed to carry hot air out of the console. By placing a fan that blows air inside the console, you're trapping in the hot air.

Oh duh, sorry tired and so a bit dislexic at the moment. No youd want it to be blowing AWAY from the console. When he said blowing on my tired brain was trying to think of wind-tunneling it. No you want to aim the fan to blow away from the case and put the exhaust fan behind it. It will suck more air out.

That is possible, but the difference should be negligible since the fan would only suck the hot air that was sucked out by the existing exhaust fans in the first place.

In any case, I doubt you will be able to make any significant changes to your console without voiding your warranty, so in your case perhaps exercising common sense and following the instruction manual are your best bets. The fan won't hurt for circulating air around the room.

Pulitzer Laureate
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And people wonder why I keep saying it was poorly engineered.

Really other than the ice packs Your right there is nothing major you can do, and even then its hard to tell how much that would help. Another ice pack under the air intake could help a bit too but what would have really helped was a stronger fan and more time spent designing the power supply so that it would have proper heat dissipation. they should have learned from the original X box that shotgun-blasting putty all over the thing won't be the same as proper spacing and placement

Press Junketeer
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Now if you really want to take this to the next level (voiding your warranty) there are plenty of options for you to choose from... :)

Gone Gonzo
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Other than racks with holes in them try downloading all your games to the console, after I did that my 360 stopped overheating on fallout 3. Oh and if you can't weld an alternative is to put your 360 on top of a steam pot.

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My cousin told me a relatively foolproof way to actually reduce the likelihood of failure in your console by somewhere like 85%. The only problem is that its largely controversial (nothing illegal, just controversial) and has a slight extra price. So if you want it, PM me.

Gone Gonzo
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As for installing to my Harddrive, do any games besides Halo 3 have that little "problem" with it?

Gone Gonzo
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Hey, the 360 makes a great heater in the winter.

TsunamiWombat:
As for installing to my Harddrive, do any games besides Halo 3 have that little "problem" with it?

Just do it for Mass Effect, because that game runs like shit on the 360, so you'll need all the help you can get. There should be less texture pop-in and slow-downs.

Gone Gonzo
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TsunamiWombat:

Richard Groovy Pants:
Now that you bought a 360, are we really going to be shelled with this little 'xbox issue' type of topic every couple of days? :p

Well the I don't own a console but I do know how to take care of one, number one rule, don't put it directly on a fuzzy carpet otherwise the fan will suck up the hairs and it'll create a mess. Also don't leave it too near your big ass tv as the heat from it might make the console overheat. Oh and never leave the console standing, let it rest sideways.

For your heating issue well, I don't really know, try putting it near an AC?

Hey, I spent alot of money on this damn thing, and I more highly consider the opinions of the people here then anything I could google. Get your answers from real gamers, not self help websites.

Heat sink it. Put the little toaster on something metal if you can, so that absorbs and carries the heat away. Get the update and install any games you intend to play. If you intend to play another for a while, unistall one and install the one you intend to play. This will save a lot of heat generated from the disc drive. Write to Microsoft and tell them that this thing is a piece of crap and they need to do better next time.

Muckraker
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Here's a thought; get a laptop cooling fan. They raise it off the surface, and have fans underneath to cool it. They're reasonably priced and power off a USB port, so it shouldn't void any warranties or anything.

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TsunamiWombat:
Okay, keeping in mind the 360's head issues, and me notiicng it's back does get hot, i'm looking for ways to keep it cool without buying one of those fans that voids my warranty. I've got 3 fans blowing on the thing at all times- one from the right, one from behind, and one from back and left. Any other suggestions (short of ducttaping an ice pack underneath the little folding card table it's on)?

I dunno. I bought the original model, like the week it came out, and I never had issues with it. Still is working perfectly, still after extensive 8 hours sessions.
The thing is, I always left it standing upright. Don't know if that is doing something good or not, but it never had any problems so far like I said.

Gone Gonzo
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I don't get why most of your 360s die. Mine is going strong since I got it (2 years ago) and no problems bad enough to send it back. Given I did have Oblivion crashing on me once or twice and apart from a couple times when the thing just wouldn't read the game disc it's all good.

I also have it standing up but it still never fried on me. I do give it plenty of space though, and it doesn't get hot in the summer where it's standing.

Pulitzer Laureate
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I have question. If my 360 get's a red ring, can I just buy an arcade version and use the hard drive on it?

Gone Gonzo
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Hoppetussa:
I have question. If my 360 get's a red ring, can I just buy an arcade version and use the hard drive on it?

What do you mean? If you mean get another Xbox and use that with your old hard drive then no, not without connecting to the net. DRM restrictions won't let you play your downloads on any console/hard drive combo except the original used to DL, unless you log into Xbox live.

Gone Gonzo
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Sennz0r:
I don't get why most of your 360s die. Mine is going strong since I got it (2 years ago) and no problems bad enough to send it back. Given I did have Oblivion crashing on me once or twice and apart from a couple times when the thing just wouldn't read the game disc it's all good.

I also have it standing up but it still never fried on me. I do give it plenty of space though, and it doesn't get hot in the summer where it's standing.

This was my initial thought actually. Unless you live some where stupid hot, you shouldn't have a problem if it isn't backed up into a tiny TV cabinet.

Press Junketeer
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Have had no problems whatsoever with my xbox bought at release so far and its been upright the whole time. It sits upright on my desk in a gap of about 11cm each side from my ps2 and my TV and about an 8cm gap if that from my wall; it has been subjected to whole days (12 hours+?) of being left on (days off and friends coming round). One reason might be my desk has some sort of surface on top that looks like tiles but isn't (the word for it escapes me but begins with an "l") and this surface seems to stay cool and probably acts as a heat sink.

Red Guard
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Blow in the DVD player before you put your game in.

Gone Gonzo
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Turn it off at the wall when you not using it. I've been doing this for the 2 years I've had mine and I've never had red lights. Maybe its just luck but still, its worth doing.

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kanada514:

TsunamiWombat:
Okay, keeping in mind the 360's head issues, and me notiicng it's back does get hot, i'm looking for ways to keep it cool without buying one of those fans that voids my warranty. I've got 3 fans blowing on the thing at all times- one from the right, one from behind, and one from back and left. Any other suggestions (short of ducttaping an ice pack underneath the little folding card table it's on)?

I dunno. I bought the original model, like the week it came out, and I never had issues with it. Still is working perfectly, still after extensive 8 hours sessions.
The thing is, I always left it standing upright. Don't know if that is doing something good or not, but it never had any problems so far like I said.

Question: How is it standing upright? I have the Halo Edition one and it doesn't have the disc clip thing... Lmao

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Muckraker
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Move somewhere cold. Like me, my room never gets above 72 degrees Fahrenheit.

Gone Gonzo
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It helps if you keep it out of confined spaces, but you've got that covered... what with the fans and all.

Paperboy
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I gave mine a open air stand all to itself.
(Because of the over heating issue since I play a lot.)

Now I think it was called Pelican fan stand I have.
(Not the Intercooler Fan, this one is different it fans from the bottom, which means you cant have it laying down.)

Never had any problems, and when I play I usually put many consecutive hours on it without a problem.

BTW, this is just from friends but, all my friends who got a 360 IRL (About 14) all got a intercooler. Except me, my sister got me the pelican stand. (Thanks Sis)

Two years later, I'm the only one not to suffer from the RRoD out of the group.

Paperboy
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hypothetical fact:
Weld a metal elevated grill to put the 360 on so the 360 can breathe from all angles. Note: Do not weld the grill to the 360.

did you really do this?

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