I just really dont want to hear them, so i say much easyer ways to mute the people.

Go on Youtube and watch the full War of the Servers, it puts the kid gamers into perspective.
"For the mingebag's attacks had been ultimately futile from the Friday night it started, for today was Monday, and they had to go to school."

Oh my god, yes, please, they should make people younger than 16 legaly carry a voice modder, I mean come on people.

Kids should be restricted to games their age and everyone should have to pass a social skills test before they can play. The test would be cheatable by memorising the answers but the amount of times you failed the test would come up on your username. For example:
Q1. You defeat a player who has insulted your skills throughout the match, how do you respond?
1. Insult him back.
2. Make his defeat as humilitating as you can.
3. Continue playing the game
4. Hunt him down and deliberately target him until he quits.

my voice hazent changed so i dont use the headset

I dont see why kids shouldn't be able to play to be honest.

Even if its things like l4d it depends on a kid. If they are well balanced and not likely to try to act anything out or get disturbed then why not? The most of us were kids when we started playing argument doesn't really work, as im betting when most of us were kids it would be going back to the Mario days or the TF days at the most. Online gaming has only really taken off in the past few years and console gaming has made it more common to do so. Ive played with some great kids who were both good players and had a good attitude that ended up giving ME tips, however the amount of so called "Adults" that i have played with who ended up to be the type of scourge that is ruining gaming is quite silly.

Lucifus:
Even if its things like l4d it depends on a kid. If they are well balanced and not likely to try to act anything out or get disturbed then why not?

Because these kids are the reason I can't have R rated games in Australia.

Wouldn't that be a negative side of the rating system rather than the population? Australia does seem to have a rather over controlling rating system. GB has problems with kids being idiots after playing a game or watching a film but its down to the parents to control what they see and what they watch and teach them the differences between fantasy and a reality.

What's wrong with kids? The ones I've met (off of the Halo curcuit, rather) have been nothing more than overeager and excited. Their voices are little kid voices, but that's no reason to hate them. We all had voices like that once, and we all started gaming as kids, so why should we deny gaming to this young generation?

It's all up to the parents. If they feel that their children are mature enough to play a specific game, then that's their decision. Now, where I do have a problem is when a parent decides that their 10yr old boy is mature enough to play something like GTA 4, when they clearly are not. Although it's not my judgement to make, it's blatently obvious that the parent's need a wake-up call!

that 16 or older catagory wont work eather i know a 16 year old guy at my school who talks like a 6 year old girl on helium.

From the perspective of ac 14 year old gamer who has been playing since the n64 days,i have to say,most of us are to young to be playing games like halo,or call of duty.Now i have been playing my n64 since 2006,and my dad only let me play goldeneye 64 in 2004.

Now in 2006,I got an xbox 360 with live,and I have learned why they did not let me play shoters untill i was 11.It took me 1 month before i could think"yelling 8 year old,thats nothing new".

On a side note;i do think that kid gamers are important.I mean think of the super nes days when you were a kid,playing "superstarwars",or "mario world".If you never gamed as a kid,were would you be now.You would be 100 lighter and be working a offices thats what!

Also,online pc games should not be played by kids under 16.Mostly the valve games,like half life and tf2.

I object to this, my little brother is just as much a gamer as anyone on here, and he's 9. The problem is that there are too many of the idiot kids, to the point that people think that anyone under x years old is an annoying whiny little kid. My little brother and all of his friends who I have met aren't like that, they talk seriously about what's going on and don't whine about everything. Don't discriminate gamers based on age, it scares people away from our hobby early, and mean reactions to them spread negative stereotypes.

The annoying kids give young gamers a bad name, much like Gorgoroth gives metal a bad name.

the issue is that immaturity has no dependence on age. annoying little kids bug me, but not half as much as annoying adults. I can only play halo 3 online for brief periods because im so disgusted with most of the other people on there, and the sad truth is, a depressing amount are probably older than I am.

Kids ARE gaming. I don't get how this question makes sense. They create a large portion of the demand, which in turn leads to games being developed. For every 25 year old with and XBOX 360 there's like 5 kids with one, right?

just to clarify, I do not think all young kids are annoying. Kids are the future, both of the world, and in this case, gaming. Its up to the older gamers to set the example for them.

Just mute them. It's not exactly hard to do.

hypothetical fact:

Lucifus:
Even if its things like l4d it depends on a kid. If they are well balanced and not likely to try to act anything out or get disturbed then why not?

Because these kids are the reason I can't have R rated games in Australia.

I'm going to assume you're being serious here, which in return demands me to inform you that, even if there were no children in Australia playing video games, Michael Atkinson would still support the lack of an R18+ rating for video games. It's not the kids.

As for the OP, I see no reason why children, with their parents' consent, should not play video games, online or off. What really irks me is those that automatically insult the kids with high-pitched voices. Even if the child is trying to contribute positively to the team, ridiculing a child purely because they haven't reached puberty is being a dick.

No, just no. It's a ridiculous idea. Nothing else.

Sure, regulating games to create a better experience for everyone would be nice. Put up different servers, for different types of gamers. People only interesting in fragging can go to one server (should be automatic, after answering a poll or something before starting to play, that you can retake later if you feel you're in the wrong place), people who want dedicated team play with lots of tactics go to another, casual gamers just looking to relax yet another. Shouldn't be too hard to fix, and would stop people complaining and coming up with stupid solutions.

Personally, I've never had much problem with obnoxious people online, I tend to avoid them, or have them avoid me, but I guess if you play online all the time it's not as easy.

Altogether now ... "I believe... that children are our future..."

Or not, anyways, sure kids can be annoying, so can adults, but the fact is, like cigarettes and alcohol and pornography and everything else that keeps capitalism healthy, you gotta grab em and let try it young, so they grow up with it being part of their life, its a lot easier to get a kid to try stuff, than an adult, and if you don't believe me, just hang around the park with a puppy and then-

Actually a better example is trying to get people to try a videogame out at a family gathering, even something as simple as Singstar or Buzz! leads to blank looks, but any kid in the room will jump at the chance to try playing the shiny new thing.

Also, as one of the WOW crowd, and running a guild, its quite possible to have a 12 year old kid, be a useful player, make it to officer, and enforce rules, and organise events.

As for the idea that gaming restrictions are just 'for the kids', I think its conservative hyperbole in the name of 'protecting the children', and we just need more education as to the content of games, and it needs to reach parents and game buyers more easily.

This is even an issue?

Look I've been gaming since I was 2 and I think its helped me alot in life. In the end its a decidion for parents as to what games are OK and the only reason its not thought of as such is that the parents complain because they don't want to be responsable for their kids being mad. they are not thick skinned enough to say 'No little billy, I don't think your mature enough to play Diablo 3 with all the blood and demons and violence. Wait until your 13'

Ok it would be older now days. The point is that the buck needs to stop with the parents and only the parents. As for taking away multi player accounts on games like 'halo' and 'counterstrike' which I think is what this topic may be hinting at instead or trying to say I can only say that they have every right to play those games. Odds are good most of the immature people on there are 20 or 30 somethings with no life who just want some form of validation anyways. If you don't like it take up single player games or encourage them to add a way to mute players you don't like. in the end though its always going to happen and tahts the parents call if they let their kids play such games or not.

games like FPSs, gears of war, halo etc, should not be played by kids.

or by anyone, for that matter, it's disgusting.

Would you stop your self-righteous whining about fps games?

How much people here didn't start gaming as a kid?

Well, they ought to be allowed to play a game, but if they want to play online they should have to play a qualifying game with some bots to see if they can speak intelligently.

urprobablyright:
games like FPSs, gears of war, halo etc, should not be played by kids.

or by anyone, for that matter, it's disgusting.

Also um the elitism part of your brain tells you to disregard a whole genre and elements of many others such as many RPGs. For what reason?

Gaming should be allowed for people all ages, Online games with an age restriction of say, 13 or 15 years old, should NOT be avaible for young children ages 3-15

Yeah I'd have to go for maturity of the palyer as well being the standard but it's down right impossible to monitor/check information like that for everyone.

It's for their parents to decide what's best for them in this case. Not governments, churches or organisations. My parents let me play whatever I wanted and my friends had the same situation, and we turned out okay. I think it's just important for parents to clarify the difference between reality and fiction.

Oh, and kids aren't that dumb either. But I hate kids in online games - well - some of them. The adolescents are often the worst, I would seriously mute those guys...sheesh. But then, I find a lot of gamers to be very annoying, especially the ones who take games seriously and get upset. It's retarded!

stompy:

hypothetical fact:

Lucifus:
Even if its things like l4d it depends on a kid. If they are well balanced and not likely to try to act anything out or get disturbed then why not?

Because these kids are the reason I can't have R rated games in Australia.

I'm going to assume you're being serious here, which in return demands me to inform you that, even if there were no children in Australia playing video games, Michael Atkinson would still support the lack of an R18+ rating for video games. It's not the kids.

He supports it because his voters support him and they are made up of useless parents whose children play M15 games. Eliminate the children and you eliminate the need for useless parents to vote against R18 games, which eliminates the need for Atkinson to vote against R18 games which he does to stay in office.

Neosage:

Also um the elitism part of your brain tells you to disregard a whole genre and elements of many others such as many RPGs. For what reason?

Don't understand you.

Damn right I'm elitist, I'm the greatest thing to happen to man since fire, tyvm.

Anyways, I said a pretty vague thing there, that you drew big conclusions from; I'm saying that first person shooters, that promote shooting people with guns, and make an art form out of realistic gore (see Gears of War) are disgusting, and beneath me.

If you play those games then that's your choice, I won't tell you to do otherwise, but with all due respect i'll feel a lot better about myself.

urprobablyright:

Neosage:

Also um the elitism part of your brain tells you to disregard a whole genre and elements of many others such as many RPGs. For what reason?

Don't understand you.

Damn right I'm elitist, I'm the greatest thing to happen to man since fire, tyvm.

Anyways, I said a pretty vague thing there, that you drew big conclusions from; I'm saying that first person shooters, that promote shooting people with guns, and make an art form out of realistic gore (see Gears of War) are disgusting, and beneath me.

If you play those games then that's your choice, I won't tell you to do otherwise, but with all due respect i'll feel a lot better about myself.

Fair enough.

See what I think would be a god-send for us "older" and "mature" gamers is that you make a server which requires that you have a partial admin online. This person can bring his/her legendary BAN-HAMMER and use it on whiny, cussing 6 year old. Now sure, muting works well but, god I swear it's one thing when kids start taking s*** on servers, when they crank up their stupid mics to the max (thinking that they are smart because. "HA HA YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN D-" *mute*) then it gets aggravating.

Honestly, no. They should be restricted.

But to do this, you would have to disable the internet. Not exactly a bad thing really. Limiting internet experience to kid's through law till they turn 16. Why? Because kid's these days are becoming sterilelized to violence, nudity and depraved behaviour. A lot of it is seen in games that they get a hold of, due to some parents being plain useless.

Then there is Australia...with it's, no R18 rating for games. Thats just making the problem worse. You hate snotty teams being online in GTA or COD. Blame Aussie. Bloody useless rating system.