Spartan Bannana: I honestly don't care, I found the game to be rather mediocre when I played it on a friend's console. But to answer your question, I agree, PS3 owners have been holding out for good exclusives, looking at their console as a long term investment, but with FFXIII turning, LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 are the only (allegedly) good exclusives they have
..and don't forget resistance 2....on second hand forget I said that(HA HA HA...no?¿ no one?¿ dull persons)....
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=S1tooztwkfs You were saying?
I must say I find resistance 2 quite a mediocre game(excluding 64 online lagless matches which is awesome and I'm gonna get it soon only for that reason) but I find some elements that have been ripped off games..such as the half shield which looks like the halo bubble shield, the zombies which look like half-stogginized humans from quake 4 and the big enemies look like a bit like boomers from gears of war and I never liked the first one anyway I'm one of those scarce persons that like cod4 damage system
I wouldn't worry about who ripped off whom, you'll go down a long unending road.
songnar: I'll add a few more cents to the pool of thoughts here.
I'd like to address the question in the title "What's the big deal?" The big deal is that this is METAL GEAR we're talking about. A game which has been alive longer than me and which has been incredibly successful. Metal Gear was a game which changed the way that people looked at stealth in games, in fact, it can be called the first successful stealth game if we dismiss the original Wolfenstein which I suspect we can. That, my friend, is the big deal. This is real gaming history in the works.
You realize that Metal Gear and Snake's Revenge came out before Wolfenstein right?
Spartan Bannana: I honestly don't care, I found the game to be rather mediocre when I played it on a friend's console. But to answer your question, I agree, PS3 owners have been holding out for good exclusives, looking at their console as a long term investment, but with FFXIII turning, LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 are the only (allegedly) good exclusives they have
..and don't forget resistance 2....on second hand forget I said that(HA HA HA...no?¿ no one?¿ dull persons)....
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=S1tooztwkfs You were saying?
I must say I find resistance 2 quite a mediocre game(excluding 64 online lagless matches which is awesome and I'm gonna get it soon only for that reason) but I find some elements that have been ripped off games..such as the half shield which looks like the halo bubble shield, the zombies which look like half-stogginized humans from quake 4 and the big enemies look like a bit like boomers from gears of war and I never liked the first one anyway I'm one of those scarce persons that like cod4 damage system
If we're going by that sort of tenuos link, Gears ripped of GTA: Vice City completely.
songnar: I'll add a few more cents to the pool of thoughts here.
I'd like to address the question in the title "What's the big deal?" The big deal is that this is METAL GEAR we're talking about. A game which has been alive longer than me and which has been incredibly successful. Metal Gear was a game which changed the way that people looked at stealth in games, in fact, it can be called the first successful stealth game if we dismiss the original Wolfenstein which I suspect we can. That, my friend, is the big deal. This is real gaming history in the works.
You realize that Metal Gear and Snake's Revenge came out before Wolfenstein right?
I must correct you, sir. You are automatically adding the letters "3D" whenever you see the word Wolfenstein however the ORIGINAL Wolfenstein came out in 1981, seven years before the first Metal Gear. Go on and Wiki it, it's fascinating stuff.
songnar: I'll add a few more cents to the pool of thoughts here.
I'd like to address the question in the title "What's the big deal?" The big deal is that this is METAL GEAR we're talking about. A game which has been alive longer than me and which has been incredibly successful. Metal Gear was a game which changed the way that people looked at stealth in games, in fact, it can be called the first successful stealth game if we dismiss the original Wolfenstein which I suspect we can. That, my friend, is the big deal. This is real gaming history in the works.
You realize that Metal Gear and Snake's Revenge came out before Wolfenstein right?
I must correct you, sir. You are automatically adding the letters "3D" whenever you see the word Wolfenstein however the ORIGINAL Wolfenstein came out in 1981, seven years before the first Metal Gear. Go on and Wiki it, it's fascinating stuff.
Yeah, but was that really stealth? It had no real LOS mechanic, so was more just a survival game.
songnar: I'll add a few more cents to the pool of thoughts here.
I'd like to address the question in the title "What's the big deal?" The big deal is that this is METAL GEAR we're talking about. A game which has been alive longer than me and which has been incredibly successful. Metal Gear was a game which changed the way that people looked at stealth in games, in fact, it can be called the first successful stealth game if we dismiss the original Wolfenstein which I suspect we can. That, my friend, is the big deal. This is real gaming history in the works.
You realize that Metal Gear and Snake's Revenge came out before Wolfenstein right?
I must correct you, sir. You are automatically adding the letters "3D" whenever you see the word Wolfenstein however the ORIGINAL Wolfenstein came out in 1981, seven years before the first Metal Gear. Go on and Wiki it, it's fascinating stuff.
Yeah, but was that really stealth? It had no real LOS mechanic, so was more just a survival game.
It's certainly not stealth as we know it, but that is why Metal Gear was/is so important to gaming history, you see?
jboking: I thought that image was about the new metal gear acid game on the iphone, why do people think it means its coming to the 360? more on topic, people get pissed off because mgs has been a long time sony excluive, so its kind of shocking to the fanboys to see it branching out.
That's why MGS 1 and 2 are both on all the last gen systems right?
MGS1 is not on the xbox, MGS2 is not on the gamecube, and MGS 3 is only on the playstation 2. All ac!d games were released on psp except for ac!d mobile if you could call that a game. it can be assumed that konami 'dropped' the other platforms for one reason or another. concerning that you have to consider the most recent evidence it would show a sort of brand loyalty that they never released their later games on any other consoles. here is a history (notice sony platforms are the only ones that recieved all of the MGS titles) MGS1 was released in 1998 it came to microsoft windows in 2000 and then in 2004 it was released as metal gear solid: twin snakes on the gamecube (this would be the last one that nintendo would recieve), MGS2 came to ps2 in 2001, then to xbox in 2002(last one xbox would recieve...maybe) and then finally to microsoft windows in 2003 (last one for windows). MGS3 came out ONLY for the ps2 in 2004. between 2004 and 2008 they relased two ac!d(thank you to stiver for pointing out how it was spelled) games for the psp.
Thank you for contributing absolutely nothing to this.
I see that stick is well placed. Calm down.
If they made a MGS4 for 360 with achievements they would probably add trophies for the ps3 version. I think i might be ok with this move. Everybody gets more MGS and I get more reasons to replay it (and a reward for having beat The Boss Extreme mode).
Thank you for contributing absolutely nothing to this.
I see that stick is well placed. Calm down.
If they made a MGS4 for 360 with achievements they would probably add trophies for the ps3 version. I think i might be ok with this move. Everybody gets more MGS and I get more reasons to replay it (and a reward for having beat The Boss Extreme mode).
I think we're getting a patch for trophies for everything anyway come January - hopefully they'll be creative about it, and not just assign a value to the titles.
Thank you for contributing absolutely nothing to this.
I see that stick is well placed. Calm down.
If they made a MGS4 for 360 with achievements they would probably add trophies for the ps3 version. I think i might be ok with this move. Everybody gets more MGS and I get more reasons to replay it (and a reward for having beat The Boss Extreme mode).
I think we're getting a patch for trophies for everything anyway come January - hopefully they'll be creative about it, and not just assign a value to the titles.
why does it need trophies? i'm sure earning the BBE is better than a Trophy, to me at least.
Shadow-Knight: I've been to other forums where PS3 owners are saying that "That's never going to happen" or "It's probably just a PSP game" and I think their just in denial. I'm excited to have another blockbuster title on the 360, at least I'm getting my moneys worth.
Will you please look at the actual evidence? There is quite literally nothing to support the claim - you're the one in denial.
Shadow-Knight: I've been to other forums where PS3 owners are saying that "That's never going to happen" or "It's probably just a PSP game" and I think their just in denial. I'm excited to have another blockbuster title on the 360, at least I'm getting my moneys worth.
Will you please look at the actual evidence? There is quite literally nothing to support the claim - you're the one in denial.
Somebody is a PS3 fanboy.
That doesn't mean I'm wrong - the symbol is universal, the colour is incorrect. For that to work, they would need to have only a passing glance at the 360 itself - which, if they were developing for the thing, isn't too likely.
Spartan Bannana: I honestly don't care, I found the game to be rather mediocre when I played it on a friend's console. But to answer your question, I agree, PS3 owners have been holding out for good exclusives, looking at their console as a long term investment, but with FFXIII turning, LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 are the only (allegedly) good exclusives they have
White Knight Chronicles, inFamous, The Ratchet and Clank series, FFXIII Versus. There is more but I honestly can't be to arsed to go check.
It's for two reasons.
360 fanboy's don't particularly care for Metal Gear, they just want some sort of proof that the PS3 is inferior and will die, because that's what Fanboys are like they WANT hardworking people to lose their jobs.
PS3 Fanboys (And regular fans can fit in this themselves) Get pissed because said 360 fans sound like whiny immature little bitches.
Seriously. Read that back to yourself. Then start complaining about fanboys again. The irony is delicious.
Spartan Bannana: I honestly don't care, I found the game to be rather mediocre when I played it on a friend's console. But to answer your question, I agree, PS3 owners have been holding out for good exclusives, looking at their console as a long term investment, but with FFXIII turning, LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 are the only (allegedly) good exclusives they have
..and don't forget resistance 2....on second hand forget I said that(HA HA HA...no?¿ no one?¿ dull persons)....
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=S1tooztwkfs You were saying?
I must say I find resistance 2 quite a mediocre game(excluding 64 online lagless matches which is awesome and I'm gonna get it soon only for that reason) but I find some elements that have been ripped off games..such as the half shield which looks like the halo bubble shield, the zombies which look like half-stogginized humans from quake 4 and the big enemies look like a bit like boomers from gears of war and I never liked the first one anyway I'm one of those scarce persons that like cod4 damage system
If we're going by that sort of tenuos link, Gears ripped of GTA: Vice City completely.
He forgot to mention the 'marksman' which was Halo's battle rifle with a secondary fire.
Thank you for contributing absolutely nothing to this.
I see that stick is well placed. Calm down.
If they made a MGS4 for 360 with achievements they would probably add trophies for the ps3 version. I think i might be ok with this move. Everybody gets more MGS and I get more reasons to replay it (and a reward for having beat The Boss Extreme mode).
I think we're getting a patch for trophies for everything anyway come January - hopefully they'll be creative about it, and not just assign a value to the titles.
Spartan Bannana: I honestly don't care, I found the game to be rather mediocre when I played it on a friend's console. But to answer your question, I agree, PS3 owners have been holding out for good exclusives, looking at their console as a long term investment, but with FFXIII turning, LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 are the only (allegedly) good exclusives they have
..and don't forget resistance 2....on second hand forget I said that(HA HA HA...no?¿ no one?¿ dull persons)....
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=S1tooztwkfs You were saying?
I must say I find resistance 2 quite a mediocre game(excluding 64 online lagless matches which is awesome and I'm gonna get it soon only for that reason) but I find some elements that have been ripped off games..such as the half shield which looks like the halo bubble shield, the zombies which look like half-stogginized humans from quake 4 and the big enemies look like a bit like boomers from gears of war and I never liked the first one anyway I'm one of those scarce persons that like cod4 damage system
If we're going by that sort of tenuos link, Gears ripped of GTA: Vice City completely.
He forgot to mention the 'marksman' which was Halo's battle rifle with a secondary fire.
And it ripped of Quake 4 like a mother fucker.
So the marksman isnt a ripoff with a little extra added...hum, sounds like every shooter ever made. Also, im pretty sure the aurger(sp?) sheild came before the halo bubble shield, but really, who cares?
Spartan Bannana: I honestly don't care, I found the game to be rather mediocre when I played it on a friend's console. But to answer your question, I agree, PS3 owners have been holding out for good exclusives, looking at their console as a long term investment, but with FFXIII turning, LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 are the only (allegedly) good exclusives they have
..and don't forget resistance 2....on second hand forget I said that(HA HA HA...no?¿ no one?¿ dull persons)....
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=S1tooztwkfs You were saying?
I must say I find resistance 2 quite a mediocre game(excluding 64 online lagless matches which is awesome and I'm gonna get it soon only for that reason) but I find some elements that have been ripped off games..such as the half shield which looks like the halo bubble shield, the zombies which look like half-stogginized humans from quake 4 and the big enemies look like a bit like boomers from gears of war and I never liked the first one anyway I'm one of those scarce persons that like cod4 damage system
If we're going by that sort of tenuos link, Gears ripped of GTA: Vice City completely.
He forgot to mention the 'marksman' which was Halo's battle rifle with a secondary fire.
You mean the secondary fire that was largely the whole point of the gun, and without it would be effectively an M16 with burst fire?
I read Kojima hasn't actually officially denied the rumours yet, so that generally means a "yes, but sometime in the distant future" in the business world. A Japanese news story also claimed they were "looking into" porting it, but there's always a problem with translation in Japanese news stories so treat it with scepticism. Anyone else finding it delightful that all these fanboys are getting in a tizz over such an average game? What is it with exclusives anyway, I mean you can still play it on your chosen console so why start frothing at the mouth when a company tries to make a bit of cash off their franchise?
Thank you for contributing absolutely nothing to this.
I see that stick is well placed. Calm down.
If they made a MGS4 for 360 with achievements they would probably add trophies for the ps3 version. I think i might be ok with this move. Everybody gets more MGS and I get more reasons to replay it (and a reward for having beat The Boss Extreme mode).
I think we're getting a patch for trophies for everything anyway come January - hopefully they'll be creative about it, and not just assign a value to the titles.
sweet, can't wait.
I think it would be awesome if they gave trophys just for doing random things eg killed 50% of all enemys in they game while shouting out royal rainbow evertytime you saw a blood effect then took on the last boss only using a newspaper acquired only by going through the secret hell level and beating the devil at a fiddle contest.
For all the speculation, fanboy rage, and other nonsense, so far we can only say that "a next Metal Gear" is coming to something that has an on button. Great. Woohoo. Go internet.
I'm betting on a iPhone port of Metal Gear 2. "A Next Metal Gear" fits right in with the broken English found in the translation of that game.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go buy some cheese. My house is overrun with deadly poisonous Zanzibar hamsters.
mspencer82: For all the speculation, fanboy rage, and other nonsense, so far we can only say that "a next Metal Gear" is coming to something that has an on button. Great. Woohoo. Go internet.
I'm betting on a iPhone port of Metal Gear 2. "A Next Metal Gear" fits right in with the broken English found in the translation of that game.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go buy some cheese. My house is overrun with deadly poisonous Zanzibar hamsters.
But cheese will only allow them to evolve ionto Velociraptors faster.
jboking: If they made a MGS4 for 360 with achievements they would probably add trophies for the ps3 version. I think i might be ok with this move. Everybody gets more MGS and I get more reasons to replay it (and a reward for having beat The Boss Extreme mode).
Not really, they didnt have trophies for COD4. Unless theyve made them recently.
It is simple. Most Xbox people still haven't gotten over the jealousy that they had for the PS2 when it was stomping Xbox into the ground. The Xbox was such a piece of crap that most developers ignored it and if not for Team Ninja and Bungie it would have joined the 32X and Dreamcast in loser history. Now that the Xbox 360 is out everyone pretends that the Xbox never happened and starts a whole new campaign. But even now that they have a system that they claim has a million games to play the jealousy is still there. Every time they hear that anything for the PS3 is exclusive they have a heart attack and wet themselves every time they hear that it might get on the Xbox 360.Look at the teaser.Everyone was practically peeing their pants thinking that the Xbox 360 was about to get MGS4. I almost never hear any Sony owners begging or wishing for Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Gears of War or DOA to come to the PS3. And yet I always hear people who own Xboxs begging and crying for Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet and Valkyria Chronicles. Why is that? If you have so many good games as you always claim then why are you always chasing after PS3 exclusives? Just play what you have and be happy. Or is that deep in you mind you know that the PS3 has better games?
tiamat5: It is simple. Most Xbox people still haven't gotten over the jealousy that they had for the PS2 when it was stomping Xbox into the ground. The Xbox was such a piece of crap that most developers ignored it and if not for Team Ninja and Bungie it would have joined the 32X and Dreamcast in loser history. Now that the Xbox 360 is out everyone pretends that the Xbox never happened and starts a whole new campaign. But even now that they have a system that they claim has a million games to play the jealousy is still there. Every time they hear that anything for the PS3 is exclusive they have a heart attack and wet themselves every time they hear that it might get on the Xbox 360.Look at the teaser.Everyone was practically peeing their pants thinking that the Xbox 360 was about to get MGS4. I almost never hear any Sony owners begging or wishing for Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Gears of War or DOA to come to the PS3. And yet I always hear people who own Xboxs begging and crying for Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet and Valkyria Chronicles. Why is that? If you have so many good games as you always claim then why are you always chasing after PS3 exclusives? Just play what you have and be happy. Or is that deep in you mind you know that the PS3 has better games?
I would flame you for being a damned fanboy. But your username is badass. You mean the multiheaded dragon right?
jboking: If they made a MGS4 for 360 with achievements they would probably add trophies for the ps3 version. I think i might be ok with this move. Everybody gets more MGS and I get more reasons to replay it (and a reward for having beat The Boss Extreme mode).
Not really, they didnt have trophies for COD4. Unless theyve made them recently.
It was sort of ment to be a joke...yeah i suck at jokes. Anyway konami already announced MGS4: existance so i get the feeling they will pull a dick move and make trophies for existance but not for the original MGS4.
tiamat5: It is simple. Most Xbox people still haven't gotten over the jealousy that they had for the PS2 when it was stomping Xbox into the ground. The Xbox was such a piece of crap that most developers ignored it and if not for Team Ninja and Bungie it would have joined the 32X and Dreamcast in loser history. Now that the Xbox 360 is out everyone pretends that the Xbox never happened and starts a whole new campaign. But even now that they have a system that they claim has a million games to play the jealousy is still there. Every time they hear that anything for the PS3 is exclusive they have a heart attack and wet themselves every time they hear that it might get on the Xbox 360.Look at the teaser.Everyone was practically peeing their pants thinking that the Xbox 360 was about to get MGS4. I almost never hear any Sony owners begging or wishing for Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Gears of War or DOA to come to the PS3. And yet I always hear people who own Xboxs begging and crying for Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet and Valkyria Chronicles. Why is that? If you have so many good games as you always claim then why are you always chasing after PS3 exclusives? Just play what you have and be happy. Or is that deep in you mind you know that the PS3 has better games?
I dont know what playstation owners your listening too, but i hear complaints about 360 exclusives all the time. What you have to understand is when they call a game on the 360 that actually looks fun complete crap or "a halo clone", it is more often than not because they are jealous. What im trying to get at is that the whole jealousy statement can be said for any of the systems owners.
samsprinkle: Goddamn fanboys! Get a life! jesus H. Christ! There are better things in the world to get pissed about! Like why the drinking age is so damned high!
I personally think its too low. I think a universal 30 year old drinking age seems appropriate.
I wouldn't worry about who ripped off whom, you'll go down a long unending road.