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Playstation Home: Fun?
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Gone Gonzo
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TheGhostOfSin:
Ahh finally.

All prices from the same shop, the one I work in.

y8c616:

So maybe the 360 is cheaper to buy that a ps3, but take into account everything you have to buy to make a 360 as functional ;Wifi adaptor (£60), You do not need this and I would advise people to stick with wired.

60gb HDD(£80 when i last checked) Whoa, that there would be a rip off if it were true, 120GB HDD for £69.99 (or £99.99 if the price goes back up.

wireless control adapter (£20)Never heard of it, even Google hadn't so you don't need it.

plus XBL (£30-40 a year)Just stay on the free silver account then...,

add all this to the £130 for a basic 360£99.99 for an arcade.,

thats £330 right thereWell to get it to work you only need to pay £99.99, but lets go with "peak performance"
Console = 99.99
120 GB HDD = 69.99
First years live = 40

£209.98

Two extra years of live just for the hell of it. = £80

£289.98
, more than the ps3.Nope, £295.99 for the cheapest.

All prices from Gamestation (not the website)

And before I'm accused of fanboyness, I'd just like to inform you all that I can finally afford a PS3 and will hopefully be getting one for myself this weekend.

Now, on to HOME...

I watched a friend of mine constantly try and fail to make it work for about an hour after which he decided to give up and shout at his PS3.

WHAT IS THIS FUCKING ERROR AND WHY DOES IT REFUSE ME ACCESS!

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 21 May 2008

Onmi:
WHAT IS THIS FUCKING ERROR AND WHY DOES IT REFUSE ME ACCESS!

The game doesn't exist, it's all a big myth.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 3 Jan 2008

TheGhostOfSin:

Onmi:
WHAT IS THIS FUCKING ERROR AND WHY DOES IT REFUSE ME ACCESS!

The game doesn't exist, it's all a big myth.

I'm connected now, but the loading is schizophrenic, everything was fast until I got to the hair, but customization is deep. I do think character editor freaks are going to love this.

Now it's back again.

Press Junketeer
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TheGhostOfSin:

Onmi:
WHAT IS THIS FUCKING ERROR AND WHY DOES IT REFUSE ME ACCESS!

The game doesn't exist, it's all a big myth.

Home is a lie!

(sorry)

On the Record
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Onmi:

TheGhostOfSin:

Onmi:
WHAT IS THIS FUCKING ERROR AND WHY DOES IT REFUSE ME ACCESS!

The game doesn't exist, it's all a big myth.

I'm connected now, but the loading is schizophrenic, everything was fast until I got to the hair, but customization is deep. I do think character editor freaks are going to love this.

Now it's back again.

Hehe, yeah, at first it timed out a bunch of times and then it took so long to load the character customization.

The loading times are atrocious, I'll tell you that. Though, now it's running smoothly for me and it's pretty cool to walk around in.

Beat Writer
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I love my PS2 too much to get rid of it. ;_;

...And, well, my brothers had to kind of sacrifice 90% of their combined Christmas money for hopes of an XBox 360, so let's just say my family's not really in the next-gen-console business. Except for the Wii, because I find it cute and it gave me Super Mario Galaxy. *ducks possible hate bullets*

One thing I do like about this Home thing, though: That's the place where you can download that Fat Princess game, right? I WANT THAT. <3

Gone Gonzo
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y8c616:
playstation network and home is better thanxbox live and theyre shitty wii rippoff avatars; so mabye home isnt wirht buying a ps3 for alone, but as a whole, a ps3 out of the box is cheaper and more functional than even the best 360;

Live is way better than PSN, and no PS3 is cheaper than a 360, even if it RRODs, stop being a stupid fanboy. I can talk, I own both, so shut up.

Gone Gonzo
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I would honestly stick with the 360. Home is basically Second Life without the furries.

Gone Gonzo
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Michael_McCloud:
I would honestly stick with the 360. Home is basically Second Life without the furries.

and good looking, and it isn't choppy, I had to play SL with a friend it was a bad experience, Home is looking good however.

Gone Gonzo
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Onmi:

Michael_McCloud:
I would honestly stick with the 360. Home is basically Second Life without the furries.

and good looking, and it isn't choppy, I had to play SL with a friend it was a bad experience, Home is looking good however.

Point remains, Home did something very stupid in its creation: They limited what the players could create. SL has a colossal range of clothes and skins that you can use, giving you a great amount of freedom. Home set out to do just the opposite, giving you a detailed customization rig but very little in the way of fantastical invention, a thing that many gamers love. Check and see how many Miis are made to look ridiculous for the sake of novelty, or how many unrealistic avatars there are on Gaia. Or, returning to SL, look at all the furries. It's that limit that I'm not fond of, as well as the terrible load times. That being said, it is very pretty.

Beat Writer
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Michael_McCloud:
or how many unrealistic avatars there are on Gaia.

... *hides her account*
Um. I couldn't agree more. >_>

Beat Writer
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Onmi:

Michael_McCloud:
I would honestly stick with the 360. Home is basically Second Life without the furries.

and good looking, and it isn't choppy, I had to play SL with a friend it was a bad experience, Home is looking good however.

Home isn't choppy? damn, you must have an optimised version or something because here the framerate can barely keep up, and still there are loading screens for everything.
I'd say, wait for the final release, somewhere in 2010 probably.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Joined: 27 Nov 2008

i was talking to some of the closed beta testers and they said it's due for final release early next year or late december.

on the topic, i found home fun. sure in the open beta there isn't that much to do but it can be very fun if you just talk to people and play some chess or pool. it's relatively small right now and there are only five areas, but there is still enough to do in those areas. I'm a little annoyed at the micro transaction thing (feels stupid to me) and there isn't much to buy right now anyway. sadly it still suffers from the affliction of the internet that creates trolls and fags but thankfully it isn't as bad as Live, or Newgrounds forum.

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MsDevin92:
I love my PS2 too much to get rid of it. ;_;

...And, well, my brothers had to kind of sacrifice 90% of their combined Christmas money for hopes of an XBox 360, so let's just say my family's not really in the next-gen-console business. Except for the Wii, because I find it cute and it gave me Super Mario Galaxy. *ducks possible hate bullets*

One thing I do like about this Home thing, though: That's the place where you can download that Fat Princess game, right? I WANT THAT. <3

No, thats the Store. Home is more a live action forum.

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Hunde Des Krieg:

y8c616:
playstation network and home is better thanxbox live and theyre shitty wii rippoff avatars; so mabye home isnt wirht buying a ps3 for alone, but as a whole, a ps3 out of the box is cheaper and more functional than even the best 360;

Live is way better than PSN, and no PS3 is cheaper than a 360, even if it RRODs, stop being a stupid fanboy. I can talk, I own both, so shut up.

The only way to say the PsN is worse than Live is to actually compare them on a stress test. So, we set up a 60 player match on both, and - whats that? Live can't handle 60 simultaneous players when the PsN does it easily? Hmm. Strange behaviour from what is claimed to be the better one.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 3 Jan 2008

We had an entire line of Dancers it was HILARIOUS.

I also got my first case of seeing morons throw around the Gay insult, but really it was the one guy and everyone told him to shut up.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 10 Nov 2008

Wow. They actually managed to load the terms of service before telling me that my session timed out or does not exist.

Gone Gonzo
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JimmyBassatti:
I was just wondering if I should go onto PS3 today just to try Home, or stay on Live and play Fallout 3?

This is not a fair comparision. Fallout 3 is a game - which you pay for. Home is an application.
Do whatever you want, I think your leaning towards Fallout 3?

MikeTheElf:
As for the whole ps3 vs. 360 argument...
-PS3 is more expensive because it has improved hardware.
-In the long run, after upgrading your 360 to run like the PS3, it costs more, in addition to the monthly/yearly fee for live.

This isn't recognized enough, but you can't upgrade it to run Bluray so it's never going to meet the standard and run like a PS3 is it?

MikeTheElf:
Regarding Home itself
-There is lag because everyone and their brother is trying it.
-As I anticipated, there's free stuff to an extent, but you can always buy more things with real money.
-Home itself is free, and reserves around 3800 megabytes (if I'm not mistaken- I'm using an old tv; the text wasn't clear)

4 gig. I feel sorry for anyone with a 20 gig harddrive. They are going to be swapping that out pretty soon.

Gone Gonzo
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DirkGently:
...aside from being an irritating "beta" (the fuck is it with game companies releasing betas to the general public? Keep your fucking beta in-house with an option for people interested in try the new version available on your site or something, stop calling your multiplayer demos "betas".)

First off, don't call something "fucking retarded" because you don't enjoy it. You are not the world, and the other people on this planet may well enjoy it.

Secondly, this isn't really a dig at you because if you don't know how online games work then its fair enough, but the only way to truly test a multiplayer game is to release it to as many players as possible. You can't beta something like Home in house, it needs many many connections from many different countries before they can truly iron out the bugs.

Public BETA's are also responsible for some of the best pre-release game balancing. As shitty as EA can be, its public BETA of RA3 (which had at least ten thousand players) was so much more balanced with units after the public BETA feedback came through than when they released it. This is another thing they can't do in house.

The best way to test a build is to get a large number of people playing said build. You going to pay 10,000 people to play a game, or are you going to release it as a beta to a slavering playerbase desperate to give it a go? Think about it.

Also, for the record, your suggestion of "keeping a download available on the website for those interested" nullified your argument, as it clearly says BETA on the download. If you are not interested, don't download it. Those who are, will. No different than putting a link on the site.

One last point: Demo's ARE BETA. At least, 9/10 of them (any game that has had a playable demo out before the release, the demo was from a BETA build). But BETA's are not nessacerily demo's. From what I gather, HOME is fully unlocked currently? Yea, try that with a "demo".

Sorry about derailing the thread folks, but I had to put him strait. Also Dirk, what happened to your enter key? You usually include paragraphs man!

Muckraker
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Poor old y8c616 is getting a bit of a bashing for being a fan boy when if you ignore his first post he's actually very rational about his preference for the PS3. I also happen to agree with all of his points, to get the 360 up to PS3 specification costs a hell of a lot and it'll never have Blu Ray (which will by the way show its advantages as a gaming media as time goes by). You can't counter those arguments by saying that the extra equipment is unnecessary, it's a comparison in terms of price and personally I'd love to have wireless and be able to charge my 360 pads without paying daft money for it. Never mind the fact you can easily put a proper sized HDD in a PS3 for a reasonable price not well over double the going rate.

For what's supposed to be the better online platform, justifying it's monthly charge, Live has no community, no centre. Even the New Xbox Experience didn't go particularly far to change this. Home looks to me like it'll add a much needed community element to the online console experience, as said above it'll be the console equivalent of forums at best and at worst it might just be a version of second life which doesn't run like a dog.

Copy Clerk
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Joined: 2 Oct 2008

Alright, anyone who has said they don't like home, XBlive, or psn, fine. UNLESS you began to list why it's inferior to it's counterpart in a ignorant way, than you should get diagnosed for some fanboyism, because frankly if you don't like something swell, but there should be no compulsion to deconstruct it with your trusty tool box of pulled out of your ass facts and the vulgar swearing of an eighth grader because you lose credibility, why dont you get that?

Anyway I found myself booting up Home instead of my games (thanks sony, love a distraction from the things I bought for you) yesterday and I didn't get any errors and minimal framerate drop/choppiness and it was not bad. I got to hang out and dance in a room with friends that I got to kinda visualize them being there next to me, which really is a neat experience. Yeah you can stand in a virtual room with your friends in things like second life too, but these were the guys I played LBP and Rock Band with online, and It was cool to hang out with them there. But frankly, sony is gonna have to add a lot and fast and frequently to keep it fresh, because I can't see myself getting the same little happy feeling from being in Home for very long. A little confidence is restored because Sony has actually been able to secure some third party support as well as first party for this thing, so as a skeptic of it, I'm now able to possibly accept the idea of a future in Home.

Beat Writer
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Stay with Fallout. You'd be an idiot otherwise IMO.

Gone Gonzo
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scnj:
It would be great if I could actually access it. I've been trying for an hour.

I believe the European servers crashed due to to much traffic. Notsure as to the condition of the North American servers.

Gone Gonzo
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Theo Samaritan:

DirkGently:
...aside from being an irritating "beta" (the fuck is it with game companies releasing betas to the general public? Keep your fucking beta in-house with an option for people interested in try the new version available on your site or something, stop calling your multiplayer demos "betas".)

First off, don't call something "fucking retarded" because you don't enjoy it. You are not the world, and the other people on this planet may well enjoy it.

Secondly, this isn't really a dig at you because if you don't know how online games work then its fair enough, but the only way to truly test a multiplayer game is to release it to as many players as possible. You can't beta something like Home in house, it needs many many connections from many different countries before they can truly iron out the bugs.

Public BETA's are also responsible for some of the best pre-release game balancing. As shitty as EA can be, its public BETA of RA3 (which had at least ten thousand players) was so much more balanced with units after the public BETA feedback came through than when they released it. This is another thing they can't do in house.

The best way to test a build is to get a large number of people playing said build. You going to pay 10,000 people to play a game, or are you going to release it as a beta to a slavering playerbase desperate to give it a go? Think about it.

Also, for the record, your suggestion of "keeping a download available on the website for those interested" nullified your argument, as it clearly says BETA on the download. If you are not interested, don't download it. Those who are, will. No different than putting a link on the site.

One last point: Demo's ARE BETA. At least, 9/10 of them (any game that has had a playable demo out before the release, the demo was from a BETA build). But BETA's are not nessacerily demo's. From what I gather, HOME is fully unlocked currently? Yea, try that with a "demo".

Sorry about derailing the thread folks, but I had to put him strait. Also Dirk, what happened to your enter key? You usually include paragraphs man!

Yeah, I kind deserved that. I'm just sick of every game releasing a 'beta' that feels like nothing more than a multiplayer demo. And Xbox live games don't need betas to test they're online capabilities because they're already rock solid. Or when a 'beta' comes out a month before a games release? I'm heavily thinking of World At War, which had a beta that was closed to anyone who cared to sign up at the COD website. I signed up there, and got a beta key after they said they were no longer giving out beta keys. Then I downloaded the beta which went up onto XBL a few weeks before the release of W@W. Which I thought was terrible by the way. Sure, it's a fine a shooter, but it breaks history just to keep it as close to the COD4 multiplayer as possible. And if a WWII game breaks history it had damn well end fighting Mecha-Hiter, because other wise it just isn't worth it.

I suppose it's also irritating that after Halo 3 did a beta, everybody was doing betas. Perhaps I never noticed it before, but it seems odd to me. Perhaps I should jus stop and let this vague ranting anger get out of me somewhere else.

Oh, and my enter key was busy with a research paper.

Gone Gonzo
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I gotta say home looks nice, but I haven't heard nice things about it so far.

number2301:
Blu Ray (which will by the way show its advantages as a gaming media as time goes by).

Not too sure about that, their is some speculation about downloading being the new format, and that blu-ray is too far ahead of its time being that-thanks to compression-its not necessary at the moment.

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Indigo_Dingo:

Hunde Des Krieg:

y8c616:
playstation network and home is better thanxbox live and theyre shitty wii rippoff avatars; so mabye home isnt wirht buying a ps3 for alone, but as a whole, a ps3 out of the box is cheaper and more functional than even the best 360;

Live is way better than PSN, and no PS3 is cheaper than a 360, even if it RRODs, stop being a stupid fanboy. I can talk, I own both, so shut up.

The only way to say the PsN is worse than Live is to actually compare them on a stress test. So, we set up a 60 player match on both, and - whats that? Live can't handle 60 simultaneous players when the PsN does it easily? Hmm. Strange behaviour from what is claimed to be the better one.

Dickish comment so sorry in advance: Why would you want to talk to 60 people at once?

Copy Clerk
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New Penny Arcade about sums it up for me...

Gone Gonzo
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Xvito:
I thought HOME wasn't released yet?!

Beta test.

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klc0100:
Your on a forum full of fallout fanboys had you asked whether to play fallout or take a trip too the moon some would have said fallout. I dont get why everyone's treating home like a killer app game it just a cool little bit of software that lets you hang out with people online.

Yeah.. I agree. This isnt supposed to be a killer game. Good thing, because it doesn't really work like a game.. so much as a micropayment machine.

Gone Gonzo
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Well, the beta is free right now, but for some reason i keep losing connection to the server.

Gone Gonzo
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I already have a life, why would I want a second?

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bad rider:

Indigo_Dingo:

Hunde Des Krieg:

y8c616:
playstation network and home is better thanxbox live and theyre shitty wii rippoff avatars; so mabye home isnt wirht buying a ps3 for alone, but as a whole, a ps3 out of the box is cheaper and more functional than even the best 360;

Live is way better than PSN, and no PS3 is cheaper than a 360, even if it RRODs, stop being a stupid fanboy. I can talk, I own both, so shut up.

The only way to say the PsN is worse than Live is to actually compare them on a stress test. So, we set up a 60 player match on both, and - whats that? Live can't handle 60 simultaneous players when the PsN does it easily? Hmm. Strange behaviour from what is claimed to be the better one.

Dickish comment so sorry in advance: Why would you want to talk to 60 people at once?

Who said talk? I mean play against. The 60 player matches of Resistance 2.

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Omnipotent_Mortal:
New Penny Arcade about sums it up for me...

What does thisimage have to do with anything?

Gone Gonzo
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Indigo_Dingo:

Omnipotent_Mortal:
New Penny Arcade about sums it up for me...

What does this *image*

have to do with anything?

I have no idea why you're looking at that when you could be looking at this which is what he meant.

image

EDIT: Oh and when those Resistance 60-player matches become commonplace and actually work more than 50% of the time (every time), let me know.

Gone Gonzo
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Indigo_Dingo:

bad rider:

Indigo_Dingo:

Hunde Des Krieg:

y8c616:
playstation network and home is better thanxbox live and theyre shitty wii rippoff avatars; so mabye home isnt wirht buying a ps3 for alone, but as a whole, a ps3 out of the box is cheaper and more functional than even the best 360;

Live is way better than PSN, and no PS3 is cheaper than a 360, even if it RRODs, stop being a stupid fanboy. I can talk, I own both, so shut up.

The only way to say the PsN is worse than Live is to actually compare them on a stress test. So, we set up a 60 player match on both, and - whats that? Live can't handle 60 simultaneous players when the PsN does it easily? Hmm. Strange behaviour from what is claimed to be the better one.

Dickish comment so sorry in advance: Why would you want to talk to 60 people at once?

Who said talk? I mean play against. The 60 player matches of Resistance 2.

Thats down to the developers not ps3 home. For example the xbox Could run 50 odd players if i remember right (http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/7765/Black-Hawk-Down-to-Feature-50-Players-on-Xbox-Live/)

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