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Beat Writer
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what is this "Girl" you all speak of, some kind of new game?

Gone Gonzo
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DayDark:
what is this "Girl" you all speak of, some kind of new game?

Go wiki it.

Never mind I did it for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girl
/sarcasm.

Infamous Scribbler
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Some peoples stupidity is just amusing to me. It's quite clear that they've never had any female contact anyway. They were probably just pissed off because some girl beat them at Quake or something.

Paperboy
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Lombardo.

Gone Gonzo
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MsDevin92:
...Well thank you Internet, thank you for reminding me that I'm a mannish social reject who spends all her time drawing fairies, I chose tutors over public school so I could get away from that lonely lifestyle. ;_____;

I don't care which gender plays games or looks better, but I wish people would stop picking on the gender which, in their opinion, sucks more at games/is as ugly as sin, which always seems to be girls. Woe is me and such.

I agree with you. A lot of men will condescend on women in the online world. But take comfort in the fact that most of those men wouldn't even open their mouth if you were standing in front of them.

And personally, I find hardcore gamer chicks to be very attractive (in a non physical way). To me my perfect girlfriend is one who can beat me at Quake III Arena. :P

Copy Clerk
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If only half the population on XBL presumed I had a 99% chance of being ugly they would cease the sexist jokes, squint their eyes until my name looked like MrShotallofyou and treat me (and every other female gamer)like everyone else...
One can dream, can they not?

Copy Clerk
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I thought that ladies like to be called girls, simply because they like to have their age underestimated. Be that as it may, I usually refer to the female gender as such because of the fact that girl is shorter :P.

On the subject though, it is the environment a person is grown up in that makes a person like video games or not. In my case (I'm freshly 18) it's been the fact that I've had a computer practically since I was born, and my parents deemed virtual games to be a good past-time for me. A good idea in my opinion. After a while I was a bit of a little gaming maniac, and it took my brothers to get me to learn how to stop once I got into a game.

Now then, I am male, but it seems like the same thing applies with ladies as well. There is the usual stigmata that girls must not be gamers, as "games are for geeks", and being a geek is not desirable. That is utterly incorrect in this day and age, as games are practically everywhere, rather than the mario day of old. It's just that girls are taught that way: IMing with their friends is more fun than shooting their brains out.

Not being unilateral here, there are many gentlemen that don't have video games to the heart. Most of them see them as a loss of time, which they practically are. So let's not be harsh on the ladies, because doing that would mean being harsh on your own gender as well as intellect.

Pulitzer Laureate
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I must say, I do like my hair. A lot.

As long as it's on my head, not anywhere else. .. oh wait, TMI. Ha, too late!

So when are we going to get this misconception out of the world? Girls that play games do exist. They play FPS games, visit forums (like this one), play RTS games.. well, anything really. Not just MMOs and The Sims. And My Little Pony or whatever.

And in my opinion, because I speak from my own experience, the reason that girls aren't "known" to be gaming? Because teenage little kids will start drooling and harassing the crap out of the girls that play once they realize they're playing with girls. It's one of the main reasons you won't hear girls speak out in public or let others know they are girls (unless they're attention whores and want gifts, or whatever).

You want to find girls online? You can find them in good, mature and active guilds/clans/whatever. Every group I've been in so far has had a fair number of girls (in fact, my msn list is quite full of them).

Gone Gonzo
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This is funny, because I just had a discussion with a beautiful lady friend of mine who didn't think she was a gamer.
Then I pointed out she was more hardcore than I was, owning and beating every Mortal Kombat she could afford and playing for extra hours on end for fun.
And she has Guitar Hero, and a Wii.... and recently had to break her addiction of an MMO resource management game.
So I think most people of our generation are gamers, whether they consider themselves such or no.

And my point is further proved because I recently re-befriended an ex of mine and went to her Halloween party, and she being the girly-girl who goes to clubs and gets drunk, got into a small argument with one of her other girly-girlfriends about which was better- WoW or Everquest.
Yeah, most girl-gamers aren't playing the FPS's, but they're pretty attractive anyway.

Press Junketeer
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Ah, the Internet. Intelligence, restraint, sanity, grammar, logic, and basic social skills are all optional on the Internet. And it leads to this. *sigh.*

What I find utterly amazing about the Internet is that despite being filled with crap like this it still manages to be better at identifying genuinely good (flash) games than a lot of real world critics are at identifying good (console) games (or anything, really. I can't tell you how many times I've read amazing book reviews of books that were utter crap). I find it kind of odd how on the same site where you get people posting how much they like a game because of the blood in it, they also manage to identify quality games and rate them higher than badly done, flashy, and bloody ones. It's either a very strange problem or a lot of lurkers. Eh, probably the second one.

Beat Writer
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SuperFriendBFG:

I agree with you. A lot of men will condescend on women in the online world. But take comfort in the fact that most of those men wouldn't even open their mouth if you were standing in front of them.

And personally, I find hardcore gamer chicks to be very attractive (in a non physical way). To me my perfect girlfriend is one who can beat me at Quake III Arena. :P

My perfect girlfriend could beat me in a fight!

Still my standards are low as I am quite puny.

Gone Gonzo
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Okay well let's put things into perspective.

A good portion of HARD CORE gamers are social rejects and nerds. I mean face it, one way or another gaming is a form of escapism, and someone who does it ALL THE TIME is by definition not dealing with reality or trying to get away from it. There are only so many hours in the day.

The thing is that if you see a girl on the internet enough to really be noticible as a gamer on that kind of level, chances are she is going to be the female version of the typical game geek, and one of those fat, depressed women with all the acne who sits around reading paranormal romance novels.

Like everything there are exceptions, but this is about probabilities. The odds of someone who is playing WoW 40 hours or more a week (the equivilent of a full time job) or on the internet surfing game forums non-stop, being an attractive, well adjusted, member of society are slim. This is why most nerds call "BS" on other nerds and claims of being exceptional, or even normal, both from guys and girls. Chances are if your spending as much time immersed in gaming as the guy calling you, your no better off than he/she is.

Now of course there is one of the biggest exceptions which is a problem of a sort. Kids also have a lot of time to be on the internet and playing game. You do find a lot of young girls who feel the internet is a safe place to "experiment" sexually and as a result you might meet a cute girl, though in many cases she's going to literally be a girl, and not really thinking this stuff through. People who talk about internet stalkers do not realize that a lot of times these "poor defenseless victims' initiate this stuff. So of course you have to be careful, since you can't nessicatly tell the age of who your dealing with, even with voice and pics. Also I'll be perfectly blunt in saying that a lot of "child porn" is produced by young girls themselves either for extra money, or for kicks, and you can't always tell the age of the person involved (though in many cases you can), so even exchanging pictures with people you meet on the internet can be... a problem.

Then of course there is the issue of whether or not these various celebrities you see at things like "The Videogame Awards" (hot babes and otherwise) actually play games, or merely promote them. Truth be told I can actually envision some of those models, actors, and sports types playing fairly hard core simply due to the amount ot time they spend travelling abroad on planes, buses, or whatever else. At the end of the day celebrities are just people to.

However it is human nature to be skeptical, especially seeing as one expects a celebrity to conceal their identity. Thus most are wisely going to take any claims of fame and fortune with a grain of salt, and frankly the odds of ever running into one of these people (by the numbers) is minimal.

In general, while some might find it insulting, I'm enough of a realist where I tend to think that the overwhelming majority of people who could be considered "gamers" as opposed to those who simply play games, are social misfits, and it is going to show in their physical prescence or "Meatspace Avatar" as some put it (haha).

But then understand that in saying this I'm disabled, and not really talking down to anyone. I can't really sit down and say "hey I'm one of lifes gifted winners, so none of this applies to me". I'm very sub-normal, as much as I wish otherwise.

>>>----Therumancer--->

Copy Clerk
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I'm a girl who plays video games with excellent hygiene, slender(104lbs) and am single. I guess I'm in that 1%... :^/

<that's me! ^^

Red Guard
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intergral:
I'm a girl who plays video games with excellent hygiene, slender(104lbs) and am single. I guess I'm in that 1%... :^/

<that's me! ^^

You'll be very popular around here, no doubt.

Copy Clerk
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wilsonscrazybed:
You'll be very popular around here, no doubt.

Ack... I just want to fit in! :^I I'm just glad I'm not lumped in the unhygienic statistics!

Red Guard
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intergral:

wilsonscrazybed:
You'll be very popular around here, no doubt.

Ack... I just want to fit in! :^I I'm just glad I'm not lumped in the unhygienic statistics!

Don't we all. :p

Press Junketeer
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I've made acquaintence with 3 "chicks" on teh interweb Mu-MOR-Pu-Gus and 2 of them were rather attractive and nice people, one was a bloke that wanted me to take my clothes off
And was more than triple my age when i was 14
He got banned though, so i can sleep safe at night now =D
Scary times...

Copy Clerk
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:^D

But seriously, there are a lot of girl gamers (I hate the term 'female'... reminds me of when I was active duty army) out there. A LOT more than one would think. Most of them are a little more casual than guys.

I just hate the stereotype that girls know NOTHING about video games. I ran into that problem all the time when I worked at Gamestop. I used to have customers purposely AVOID me because of my gender and the predisposition that I knew nothing of what I was selling. It got really old really fast. *shakes fist*

On the Record
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wilsonscrazybed:

intergral:

wilsonscrazybed:
You'll be very popular around here, no doubt.

Ack... I just want to fit in! :^I I'm just glad I'm not lumped in the unhygienic statistics!

Don't we all. :p

The cool thing is I could care less if I fit in.
Miscellaneous greeting --> Merry Christmas

Gone Gonzo
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wilsonscrazybed:
The problem is, if you're like me, you're wondering "Can I find a woman who will satisfy my desire to play left 4 dead until the Yule logs burn low, snow blocks the exits to your home, and you're forced to call work to say you're not going to be in until the spring thaw?

I hate to categorize people, but since it is you who has created the category, I can with conviction say most of the girls I know would, and most of those would join me in doing so. However, this is because I tend to meet girls who have at least some interest in video gaming or any other variant of gaming (cards, role-playing, etc.). And this, my friends, this is because I go to conventions. Now, I know what you are all (or more realistically, only a few of you) thinking: those events are just packed with smelly, greasy teenagers and nerds. Well, here in Sweden, they are NOT. I repeat; NOT. As a matter of fact, the girls (and guys) who gather and participate in these events are those of social skills and courage, which allows them to do so. (those who do not have it quickly learn. saved a lot of lives, it has.)

Perhaps this is because most of the conventions held here are not overly huge, and perhaps it is more because they attract a wide variety of people with many different interests. See, conventions are normally centred around a LOT of things, such as Japanese popular (or more historical) culture (most common) with the VAST variety of activities it offers, music, gaming, all kinds of other social, mental and physical games to play and sometimes even martial arts and philosophy, and I do not know a single association that profits from any of it, though I do know of some that has donated to various causes in the world. The absolute core of them all is to socialize however, and anything we do besides that are just means of getting an excuse to do so. To facilitate it.

Post Scriptum: I can also add that to most conventions more girls attend than guys. I would say it is because girls are more social, at least in this group of people with these interests. So sayeth my vast experience. (no, really. it IS vast. amen.)
Also, I have always had a lot of girls as friends. I think I have been lucky to find so many that are reasonable and intelligent, whereas I must have been unlucky in that aspect when it comes to guys. Figures. Probably has a lot to do with where I have lived. In any case, girls are a lot more reasonable, and, most of all, understanding and compassionate. That goes double for all the geeky and/or nerdy ones I know.
I love you so much, you amazing, wonderful idols of love.

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With fluffy bunnies on top.

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Ok, now I killed the seriousness. I hope no one thinks I am not serious because of this. 'Cause I am. I am actually a bit angry. Oh well, peace out.

This babbling was brought to you by sleep-deprivation.
Insomnia: for when you really need to degenerate someone!

Still very serious though.
>=3 <- Angry and serious lion.

Gone Gonzo
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wilsonscrazybed:

All I can think, is that stuffed animal is awesome and I want it.

Wait, what was this thread about?

Gone Gonzo
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Anarchemitis:

wilsonscrazybed:

intergral:

wilsonscrazybed:
You'll be very popular around here, no doubt.

Ack... I just want to fit in! :^I I'm just glad I'm not lumped in the unhygienic statistics!

Don't we all. :p

The cool thing is I could care less if I fit in.
Miscellaneous greeting --> Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas, soap for everyone!

LewsTherin, bucking the trend since 1153

Gone Gonzo
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intergral:
:^D

But seriously, there are a lot of girl gamers (I hate the term 'female'... reminds me of when I was active duty army) out there. A LOT more than one would think. Most of them are a little more casual than guys.

I just hate the stereotype that girls know NOTHING about video games. I ran into that problem all the time when I worked at Gamestop. I used to have customers purposely AVOID me because of my gender and the predisposition that I knew nothing of what I was selling. It got really old really fast. *shakes fist*

Hah, reminds me as well of my time in the army (which was very, very recent).
Huh, that's really weird. All girl clerks in all the video game stores I've been in have people flocking around them. Might partially be because those that are hired are very beautiful and attractive young women, but they've also displayed knowledge of video games that surpass most. Man, is there anything sweeter...

Copy Clerk
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I'm always really perplexed about the "no girls in my tree house" mentality of many gamers, it's truly bizzar.

I think the worse thing about this is that it undermines the notion that gamers are for the most part normal people with slightly different hobbies. If you claim that there are virtually no attractive women in gaming you might as well tattoo a giant red L on your forehead.

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