Yep! A 3000 |
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Yep! A 2000 |
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Eh, maybe |
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You could spend your money on something better, like hookers |
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Hell No, They Suck |
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Anonymous Source  Posts: 10 Joined: 26 Dec 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1604 Joined: 28 Aug 2008     |
This. But it cripples your hand if you play any game that's not stick specific, so you will get serious hand cramps. There are some great games for it and a sod of a lot more to choose from. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 460 Joined: 24 Jul 2008   |
Ummm, I'm just going to assume you mean the LACK of a second analog stick. Also, get a DS Lite, it has a much better game library. If you want to watch movies on it, you can just buy an R4 card for it. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2622 Joined: 2 Aug 2008   | Metal Gear: Portable Ops, While the graphics are awesome, and gameplay on these games are awesome and are better than almost all DS games, the DS still has more games with more unique gameplay and stuff. Although, the PSP has more multi-media capabilities, like a bigger screen, that means better videos, the web can be accessed, while it takes several hundred crackings to get on the DS, you can listen to music etc. I'd still go for the DS, since RPGs as games last more than your average God of War, and you can do everything the PSP does with the DS, only with a smaller screen(s) and the web is hard to get access to without the special Game Cartridge with Opera on it. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1302 Joined: 19 Dec 2008     | Hookers. End of story. |
Paperboy  Posts: 24 Joined: 27 Aug 2008   | Well.... 1) It's big. Don't tell me, "It's not much bigger than the DS Lite", as the DS Lite is a compact brick and the PSP suffers from being very delicate and having an exposed screen when you want to carry it around in your pocket. It's like carrying a Nutty Buddy in your pocket. 2) The PSP's support is horrendous. If you want to actually play the games on the PSP, you'll have to put up with the fact that Sony likes forcing update patches from their software to reset any and all mods on it. I'm sure there are ways around it, but I'm not savvy enough to know exactly where to find crap like that or trust myself enough to fix things. 3) The PSP bears some unnatural quality that makes me dislike holding it. I don't know if it's some kind of ergonomic issue, but the playing the PSP feels like trying to get romantic with a woman who had a baby 37 minutes ago. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 55 Joined: 23 Dec 2008   | I'd say that you should buy a PSP if you have the money, as there are enough enjoyable games to make it worthwhile. 1. Tekken: Dark Resurrection |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2326 Joined: 19 May 2008   |
The PSP is also region free.... |
Paperboy  Posts: 33 Joined: 28 Dec 2008  | There are only a handful of really worthwhile games for the PSP. Most of the titles I've played have been disappointing. Retro remakes for psp are usually pretty good, and there are a few games I would consider "must have..." but those are retro remakes. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 736 Joined: 23 Jan 2008    |
Saying "I'm right and there's nothing you can say to prove me wrong" is not a good base for a debate. I own a PSP and a DS, and while playing the handhelds, which, mind you, is what they're made for, the DS is much larger and more uncomfortable with the whole "hanging screen" thing, while the PSP is easy to use and much more comfortable. The PSP is maybe an inch wider, but the DS is so long, since it has to handle two screens. The PSP screen is delicate? Don't know where you heard that from; unless you like sticking knives into your systems or have a fetish with giving the hammer a go on a fresh box, it shouldn't be a problem. This is just a cheap thing for "abusive" (if you want me to make it sound like I'm Dr. Phil) gamers to complain about. It's called responsibility. As for carrying it around in your pocket, uhhh...DS folded is still taller than the PSP. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 372 Joined: 6 Nov 2006    | If your interested in RPGs (sorry, not sure if you stated yes or no, don't feel like reading through the entire thread) but Disgaea is a MUST HAVE for PSP. btw, I have to wait an hour or two after work nearly everyday to get a ride home, so theres definately a reason why I got so many hours into the game. (And if you ask, why don't I just drive home? Well, thats $400 I odn't have to spend on car payment/insurance, nor $50 every month on gas that goes to video games. Oh yeaaa.) :P Now if only I were in new york where the public transportation systme actually rocks... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1684 Joined: 7 Feb 2008  | Okay so you don't want racing or turn based games. To me that leaves us with Patapon, Tekken: Dark Resurrection, Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops... Anyways, the primary reason I own a PSP is so I can play with emulators. It's a fantastic mobile platform for emulating classic games. It can handle a lot of PS1 games. A large portion of PSPs out there have problems with the joystick. If I was to choose between the 2000 or 3000 I'd go for the 2000. Let's compare the two. PSP 2000 Pros/Cons Pros: -Can have custom firmware installed onto it provided you know how. Cons: -Joystick can break very easily. Many people have noticed poor responsiveness, and in more serious cases the joystick will "move on its own". The only permanent solution is to replace the joystick, which you can do by purchasing a small kit. PSP 3000 Pros/Cons Pros: -The screen is capable of rendering a higher range of colors. Cons: -Connot install custom firmware, therefore no emulators. The PSP is known for having a very high quality screen overall. It's quite fantastic for movies and video. The ghosting even on the 2000 model isn't bad at all. Considering the fact that the PSP 2000's screen is pretty good to begin with, I don't find the 3000's screen a worthwhile tradeoff. Especially considering the interlacing issues. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 372 Joined: 6 Nov 2006 | Uhh you forgot the 3000 has a buit in mic. ;) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2381 Joined: 6 Mar 2008   | Lumines makes PSP worth the money. Anything else is a bonus. Personally I'd buy a modded 1000 off eBay (I did). |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1684 Joined: 7 Feb 2008 |
That I did. Then again you could always plug a mic in anyways :P. You can get a modded 2000 model on ebay as well. :S I modded mine myself, it's pretty simple. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3300 Joined: 1 Nov 2007    | No. Don't make the same mastake I did. Buy hookers, or better still, buy us hookers. |
Paperboy  Posts: 19 Joined: 21 Sep 2008   | buy it you can go on wi fi with it and go into your nahbors routers and screw with them |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 684 Joined: 22 Dec 2008    |
I strongly disagree, though this is a matter of opinion of course. However, it has Crush, an ingenious puzzle game, Mercury, which was released for the wii but in my opinion suffers for the wii controls, Patapon, which is flat out ingenious though it can be a little grindy at times, Loco Roco, again insanely unique, a Katamari game if you really can't get enough of them, a better selection of RPG's than the DS (OK, none come to mind at the moment, but I swear there are some), God of War of course, Burnout (which to me might be my number one handheld game), Lumines, a horde of classic game remakes (including Mutant League Football! Play this game right now everyone, and it comes in a pack with a dozen other games that are almost all fun), some good scrolling shooters... uh... crap, I ran out of steam there. OK, I am probably unique in liking almost all of these genres when they are well done, but maybe more niche gamers will be hard pressed to find a specific collection of games unless you are into action/puzzle type games. Well, that's my part spoken anyway, take it as it is. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2326 Joined: 19 May 2008 |
um....
Thats a load of bullshit if you will pardon my language. Sony's firmware updates dont fuck up your PSP unless you have custom firmware. Your saying your angry because sony is trying to prevent software that can be used for piracy from being on their system? You don't need update patches for games, if you don't have the firmware it need to run the game the game COMES WITH THE FIRMWARE. Sony has every right to oppose custom firmware because there is software that can be used to copy and pirate games, so don't bitch at sony for trying to protect their business. They should listen to the home brew community i will give you that.
Why do people complain about it's shape but i never hear complaints about this.....
Anyone see the similarities. Sorry i cant sit by when bad arguments like those are being spewed left and right about a perfectly fine system. Just my counter argument I guess. oh and here's a good article, although old, that does a good job at explaining and comparing the DS and PSP in a reasonable manner. http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2005/10/10/psp-a-beautiful-stranger/ |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1367 Joined: 31 Mar 2008  | Ignoring anything else that's been said and speaking from personal experience: I got mine the day after they were released. I got about four games for it in the two years I had it. I played it for a cumulative total of less than 12 hours in that time. I sold it for a fraction of what I paid and have never regretted doing so. So... unless there's been a flood of decent games in the past 18 months, I wouldn't be able to recommend it in good conscience unless you can get hold of one ludicrously cheap or really like some of the other features that I didn't care about. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1850 Joined: 31 Oct 2007  | I'm sure this has been said by somebody by now, but I figured I'd reinforce it or add it. You're much better off with a Nintendo DS. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1850 Joined: 31 Oct 2007 |
Um what? The lid is open on the DS. You do realize that closes, right? The DS actually fits very nicely into a pocket. Obviously one would want to close the lid to accomplish that. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2326 Joined: 19 May 2008 | But they are still roughly the same length, width, and thickness, that is what i was referring to. Sorry for that confusion but you should understand. |
On the Record  Posts: 6209 Joined: 10 Mar 2008    |
Though the PSP is slightly longer, but I get your point. Basically what I hope the OP gets from this thread is this; If the PSP has the games you want on it, go for it. If it doesn't, then don't waste your money. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, that the DS "Has a wider variety of games" or the PSP "has no good games", they both fill a niche for different people. The games should be your primary concern, and if it has enough to you then the PSP is worth buying. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2326 Joined: 19 May 2008 | Right Now I am Compiling a list of Currently released and Future Release games for the PSP just for the sake of informing people what they can look for on the platform. This is mostly personal Preference and recommendation and I will update this post when i am complete. And here you go: " God of War: Chains of Olympus Games that will be coming out in the near future: " Valkyrie Chronicles OK well my brain hurts after thinking of all these. Just remember this is a list of games that I consider and would think most people would be interested in. Yes Yes I know the DS's library is bigger, don't bring up that pointless and obvious statement. This is more like proof to all the haters saying "PSP has no games!! hur!!". I can ramber on and on but my brain needs a rest after making this list. ENJOY!! EDIT (again): If I missed anything please remind me I can add them to the list |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 736 Joined: 23 Jan 2008 | A closed DS lite is .01mm smaller than a PSP. Oh, jeeze, I SURE can feel that difference in my pocket. I disagree with the DS is better argument, even though saying so will get us nowhere. I've spent 3 times longer playing my PSP than my DS, and PSP's homebrew capabilities are waaaaaay better. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 372 Joined: 6 Nov 2006 |
Uhh, I don't see anything in your post about 3000 pros/cons about the mic, maybe its on the first page? Anyways, you have to buy a headset with the mic/headphone on one plugin thing, inorder to use a mic, a regular mic won't work. As for the DS, it has one advantage over the PSP and it is the game selection, and well, WTF do you expect from a systme that has BC for DS/GBA/CGB/GB?! thats fucking 4+ generations of games that can be played on it! PSP is obivously going to suffer because you can't just plug in an old psx game! (I wish they had some kind of support for that though, would be FING AWESOME, just think if they released a tool, that would allow you to put the game data into a file, that is tied to your PSN ID?! GENIUS! |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 866 Joined: 13 Feb 2008   | I've played a DS. Had my friends for liek 2 months. Beat all the games for it and was told the 2 games you need to have are Nintendogs and Brain Age. As for My PSP its actually making me money. I have a 1000 and it easily fits in my pocket. Also who ever said a PSP 1000 goes for 50 bucks no offense but your an idiot. They are the best ones to own and easiest to hack you can do a ton with them up to making them into universal remotes. As it stands you can't Mod a 3000 or the newer 2000 series but they are going to crack it eventually. And i have had mine for more then a year and haven't needed to update to OFW since i first hacked it. So if your going to choose based on these posts i would say if you know someone who can help you pick out a hackable one and can hack it then do so. But if not i won't say get a DS. Just cause i didn't have fun doesn't mean you won't. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 736 Joined: 23 Jan 2008 |
You, sir, need to read more than 3 words before you call someone an idiot. I obviusly said about 3 or 4 posts earlier that I recommend above all three versions the PSP 1000, and an added bonus was that you can find them for $50. And, you obviously don't know much about PSP's, because the 2000 is also moddable. I spend 5 posts defending the thing and someone thinks I hate it? Jeeze. EDIT: Here, buddy.
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Gone Gonzo Posts: 2326 Joined: 19 May 2008 | They Have already Cracked the PSP 3000, there is a firmware out for it. It's not that good right now but it's a start and we will be seeing more improved CFW is 2 months guarantee. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 857 Joined: 24 Mar 2008   | wait until the 4000 comes out in 2009. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1395 Joined: 17 Nov 2008  | I have the PSP 2000, with 17 games, it's got some really good games and you can play it on the TV. It's all a matter of preference really, if you like platformers DS might be better for you if you like ...PS2 games, it might be a good investment. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 212 Joined: 16 Oct 2008  | Just versions of games in the more center of mainstream, for which you could probally buy all you wish for at the moment with the cash for a PSP |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 70 Joined: 20 Aug 2008 | I have both a Ds Lite and recently acquired a PSP 3000 with three games, God of War: Chains of Olympus, FF7: Crisis Core, and Final Fantasy Tactics, all of which I heard were good games for the system. I have to say that I've scarcely left my PSP laying around since. While my DS is still fun, I have to say I absolutely love the PSP, from eye popping cutscenes to non-stop action I have to say its all there, and i've only three games! For the DS I also have many of the claimed best, but none of them can stand up to my new favorite 3 hand held games. While I do still enjoy my DS, I have to say it'll be gathering dust for a while due to my new hand held console. :D |
BANNED  Posts: 534 Joined: 27 Aug 2008   | PSP'S SUCK (In my opinion) User was banned for: The "Name the Screenshot" Game.. (Permanent) |
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At the time I bought a PSP for only two reasons: The was one of the only hand-helds I didn't have and I wanted Castlevania: Chronicles (Yes, enough to fork over the cash for a used PSP. At least no one at GameStop realized someone left a 1 gig memory stick in it.)
After about a month I came to realize just why it was one of the only hand-helds I didn't have.
That was a year ago and since then I only have three games for it: Me and My Katamari, Patapon and Castlevania: Chronicles. There's nothing really for it in my opinion, I just can't find any other games. It could be because I'm very picky but judging by the other posters here I can see that I'm not the only one who just can't really find anything good enough to hold my attention, which isn't that difficult.
It's not terrible, I still use it enough so that the layer of dust it collects isn't too thick, but if you can think of other things to spend your money on then wait on the PSP.