I'm trying to track down a game I played years ago for PS2. The only problem is that I don't remember the title. Yeah, not helpful, I know.

It came out in 2000 or 2001.
It was an RPG.
It had turn based combat.
It had 3rd person perspective.
It was a swords and sorcery type of game.
One of the characters, a little way into the game, could morph into a giant red creature.
There was a party system.

Sorry, but I don't remember much more than that. I clicked through the wikipedia entry on PS2 games from 2000-2002, but didn't see anything that rang a bell. Thanks in advance for your help.

It sounds like a Final Fantasy game.

sirdanrhodes:
I'm sorry, I lost all faith in humanity when I saw the letters "R" "P" "G".

What was the point of your post?

To belittle RPG players?

The only thing I can think of like this is a PS1 game called Legend of Dragoon.

I'dve known had it been a Final Fantasy. Those are pretty easy to figure out. Also, sirdanrhodes, just assume that I've insulted you in some way for your comment. I'll leave the specifics up to you. You know, because that comment was entirely useless.

I'm thinking maybe a grandia or breath of fire game. Although Dark Cloud also comes to mind.

Nope, I've got Legend of Dragoon. This was definitely an earlyish PS2 release. I do remember that we stopped playing it once FFX came out, if that helps narrow down the timeframe.

CapnGod:
Nope, I've got Legend of Dragoon. This was definitely an earlyish PS2 release. I do remember that we stopped playing it once FFX came out, if that helps narrow down the timeframe.

Legend of Dragoon was a PSX game.

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ianuam:
I'm thinking maybe a grandia or breath of fire game. Although Dark Cloud also comes to mind.

Dark Cloud doesn't have turn based combat, so that's eliminated. I thought of Dark Cloud at first as well.

Sorry, can't help you. I do sympathize though, I have a few old animes that I dearly wish to watch again but couldn't remember the names if you put a gun to my head q_q

edit: The giant red creature seems kind of familiar though... Can you be a bit more descriptive?

I thought dark cloud first, and breath of fire sounds right, it was ps1 but released in '01 in the PAL parts of the world

It sounds like any generic PS2 RPG.

Try all of them!

Is it Legaia 2?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legaia_2:_Duel_Saga

I think during the game you turn into a red fire kind of thing. I have played it before and it sounds like your description.

CapnGod:
Nope, I've got Legend of Dragoon. This was definitely an earlyish PS2 release. I do remember that we stopped playing it once FFX came out, if that helps narrow down the timeframe.

Well then that means it's not a FF game, because FFX was the first one out on PS2.

That doesn't look like it. It had a lot of outdoor environments. Really well rendered for the times, if I recall correctly. You morphed, and then did almost strictly physical attacks, I think. It was a timed effect, and then wore off.

This is so frustrating. I don't think there was a menu system for fighting the way there is in FF style games, but rather buttons to either cast magic or do physical attacks. I really don't remember a menu system in the fighting. The characters were rendered to more normal proportions in game, too. There weren't any giant headed creatures walking around on the screen. Also, combat was in the environment as you explored; no separate battle as in FFanything.

Was there puppets? I remember one where your party consisted of MAGICAL PUPPETS you could turn into your ENEMIES so they would fight with you... it was fun...

Do remember ANY of the characters names? If you knew even two, you could easily find it.

This hardly fits any of the criterias but does Chaos Legion ring a bell?

I wish. We're talking about a game we played (it was single player) for a month or two back in 2002. Ok, that means it could have come out in early 2002, nothing later than May, though. Which is less than helpful, since it expands the options.

Crap on a crap cracker, cause you need crap crackers when you're eating crap. Damn.

Oh snap are you talking about Orphen: scion of Sorcery? Look it up and tell me if that was it, I can't think of anything else.

ChromeAlchemist:
Oh snap are you talking about Orphen: scion of Sorcery? Look it up and tell me if that was it, I can't think of anything else.

Was Orphen turn based? I seriously remember hating that game...

Swords & Sorcery? So it not set in the early 20th century in the 'real' world.

If it was, it could be Shadow Hearts?

Was the turn based combat based around a ring (Judgement Ring)?

Legend of Alon Dar? 8/

Suikoden III and Gradia II are the only games that come to mind that are both PS2 games and have come out in that time period.

Then there's Breath of Fire IV, but that's a PSX game. Furthermore, it's 2D.

Could it be Disgaea?

Here's a link to an IGN search for RPGs on the PS2. I had a quick look through but nothing seemed to match what you've said. You should have a look yourself, see if anything rings a bell.
http://uk.ps2.ign.com/index/games.html?constraint.game_genre_name.game_genre_1.game_genre_2=RPG%3A&constraint.return_all=is_true

EDIT: Found this listed as an Action RPG. You can change into several monsters, including a big red minotaur.
http://uk.ps2.ign.com/objects/013/013727.html

Shadow Hearts? Came out in 01, turn based JRPG , the main character could transform into various monsters, I'm sure at least one of which was red although I haen't played it for a long time. Google it and see if you recognise it. Good, unique game with a more involving battle system than is the norm for games of its kind.

Ok, Legend of Alon D'ar actually rings a bell. The screen shots are iffy, but I'm also remembering them from close to seven years ago. And, I just went and looked on YouTube, and that's pretty much it. In fact, I'm almost entirely certain that that's what it was. Thanks for filling that memory gap; it's bugged me off and on for a year or two now.

And inside of three hours. I'm impressed.

My first thoughts were Shadow Hearts and Summoner, but your question seems to have been answered.

What a fun game! Anyone else have a game they're looking for?

Edit: By which I mean that it was fun looking for the answer, and I am bored. Summoner was NOT a fun game if I remember correctly.

Kermi:
Could it be Disgaea?

No, he said it wasn't menu heavy and I don't think the main characters of both those games cant transform. besides, wasn't the first released in 03?

Hankage:
Hah. Let's make a game out of this. You'll never get this one.

'The monster within me has been released. I have traversed worlds, only to learn that I am a child's memory. I have died and walked across the sun. I have spoken to God and asked him:'Why?' I have fought His Infinite Machine.'

What game is this?

Could it be Infinite Machine for the XBox?

Sounds roughly like Digital Devil Saga but it almost certainly isn't.