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This is for all those games which are good on their own, but when compared to their prequels, they just seem like total crap.

Red Faction 2 was a good game for example, but it just wasn't the sequel Red Faction justified.

Anyone else have any examples?

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Knights of the old republic, and then knights of the old republic 2. KOTOR2 wasn't a horrible game, but nothing could have lived up to the first one.

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Two words.

Jade Coccoon.

[EDIT]:

oh you mean games that looks shite compared to their sequals...

Oh well forget what i said...
thought you meant games that were better then their sequals
(I didn't read the OP)

Uhm...
The first Spiderman game based on the movies.

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I'd say FFX and FFX-2... FFX-2 made me lose faith in the FF series ><

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Aarn13:
I'd say FFX and FFX-2... FFX-2 made me lose faith in the FF series ><

Welcome to the Escapist :D

Hm.

For myself, it would probably be Diablo, Diablo 2 AND Diablo 3. It just keeps getting better and better (from what I've seen of Diablo 3 anyway).

edit: Oh, nevermind, I'm getting confused O_o
Er........... I...... don't know.... *brain fizzles out*

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Well, Halo 1 was way better than the sequels.

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elricik:
Knights of the old republic, and then knights of the old republic 2. KOTOR2 wasn't a horrible game, but nothing could have lived up to the first one.

I played KOTOR 2 before i played the original and i thought the second was just as good. Yahtzee said it in is XBLA: double review better than i can.

But Far cry 2 was a great game but nothing like the original. so Do i care? no i play it and call it "dude who wants to kill a dude who sounds like an animal and did i mention the dude is a arms dealer!" AKA DWWTKADWSLAAADIMTDIAAD.

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KOTOR was one of the best games ever. KOTOR II sucked (In my humble opinion).

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Three words
Far Cry 2

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Indigo_Dingo:
Three words
Far Cry 2

That's two words and a number.

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Isn't it weird that this thread appeared at the same time as the Deus Ex thread?

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harhol:
Isn't it weird that this thread appeared at the same time as the Deus Ex thread?

I was just thinking it was weird it took so long to get mentioned.

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Shurikens and Lightning:

elricik:
Knights of the old republic, and then knights of the old republic 2. KOTOR2 wasn't a horrible game, but nothing could have lived up to the first one.

I played KOTOR 2 before i played the original and i thought the second was just as good. Yahtzee said it in is XBLA: double review better than i can.

So, you're saying that you played KotOR 2, and didn't think the last half-hour and unresolved plotlines sucked? What about the complete lack of resolution?

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True Crime Streets of La was way better than True Crime NYC

Burnout 3: Takedown was better than Burnout Revenge

Ace Combat 5 was better than Ace Combat Zero... although zero brought some new depth to the field, the story didn't have the much needed attraction the prequel had.

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4thegreatergood:

Indigo_Dingo:
Three words
Far Cry 2

That's two words and a number.

Shut up.

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Splashdown 2: Rides Gone Wild and Jet Moto's sequels never had the charm the 1st 2 games did Sd 2's endings were watered down boiled water compared to the hilarity of the 1st games endings and Jet Moto just seemed to become a bigger bill board for Consumer goods the and less about good open levels higher it got.

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Area 51: Blacksite sucked compared to the 1st one Area 51.

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condemned!!

a great thriller thats acctually scares the shit out of you great story,voice acting(script),great atmosphere and good combat(even tough the combat can get a bit boring towards the end)

condemned 2 a plot that ruins everything, terrible voice acting(listen to ethan in this one he sounds terrible), the script seems like it was writting by a five year old with no mystery or dramatic scenes in the game.

they did make the combat a bit better but that makes up for nothing

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Can we include Prequals? I have to say Perfect Dark Zero. Perfect Dark might as well be a historical artifact, why did they have to ruin it by making the new one in the past (yet some how more advanced and cleansed) as well as NOT Nintendo. Damn you Rareware, you sellouts!

EDIT: Is that a GDI avatar? I like it (If it is).

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Chrono Cross, if it weren't a "sequel" to the best game ever made it wouldn't have been so disappointing. i mean, great graphics, good story and some really fun battles.

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Indigo_Dingo:

4thegreatergood:

Indigo_Dingo:
Three words
Far Cry 2

That's two words and a number.

Shut up.

Haha that made me chuckle :p

Although on a more inquisitive note, what made you like the first Far Cry more than the new one? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I'm just curious is all.

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Briainer:
condemned!!

a great thriller thats acctually scares the shit out of you great story,voice acting(script),great atmosphere and good combat(even tough the combat can get a bit boring towards the end)

condemned 2 a plot that ruins everything, terrible voice acting(listen to ethan in this one he sounds terrible), the script seems like it was writting by a five year old with no mystery or dramatic scenes in the game.

they did make the combat a bit better but that makes up for nothing

Condemned 2 was more of an action game, but by improving the combat, it took away what made Condemned 1 scary: The sense of Vulnerability that you had. Also, it totally ruined the storyline...Damn you Monolith! You ruined Condemned!

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Aarn13:
I'd say FFX and FFX-2... FFX-2 made me lose faith in the FF series ><

FFX-2 would have been great... if you took out the stupid Charlies Angels J-Pop mentality and put in a real story. The Gameplay was top notch and the non linear quest system was a really fun way to do things.

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orannis62:

Shurikens and Lightning:

elricik:
Knights of the old republic, and then knights of the old republic 2. KOTOR2 wasn't a horrible game, but nothing could have lived up to the first one.

I played KOTOR 2 before i played the original and i thought the second was just as good. Yahtzee said it in is XBLA: double review better than i can.

So, you're saying that you played KotOR 2, and didn't think the last half-hour and unresolved plotlines sucked? What about the complete lack of resolution?

I was like 9 at the time so i didnt care about graphics and again 9 so i didnt care about plotlines. The point was that I thought they were equal not greater or less. Plus I thought the ending was brilliant and bone chilling. Seeing the ship fly away may not resolve the plotlines (what plot did you want answered by the way?) but it proved that there would be a third and now there is but its a MuhMorPuhGah!

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orannis62:
So, you're saying that you played KotOR 2, and didn't think the last half-hour and unresolved plotlines sucked? What about the complete lack of resolution?

Am I the only one who actually realized that the story was all BS and no substance before the last half-hour? I stopped expecting the game to deliver on any of it's build up about half way through, when it became apparently that they were making it up as they went along.

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I found The Suffering to be amazing, but Ties That Bind, although I never finished it, was good but not nearly as good.

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PedroSteckecilo:

Aarn13:
I'd say FFX and FFX-2... FFX-2 made me lose faith in the FF series ><

FFX-2 would have been great... if you took out the stupid Charlies Angels J-Pop mentality and put in a real story. The Gameplay was top notch and the non linear quest system was a really fun way to do things.

Yes But the Stupid Charlies angels J-pop mentality scared the hell out of me ><

and the massage scene

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Gears of War 2. Nuff said.

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Briainer:
condemned!!

a great thriller thats acctually scares the shit out of you great story,voice acting(script),great atmosphere and good combat(even tough the combat can get a bit boring towards the end)

condemned 2 a plot that ruins everything, terrible voice acting(listen to ethan in this one he sounds terrible), the script seems like it was writting by a five year old with no mystery or dramatic scenes in the game.

they did make the combat a bit better but that makes up for nothing

Condemned 2 was more of an action game, but by improving the combat, it took away what made Condemned 1 scary: The sense of Vulnerability that you had. Also, it totally ruined the storyline...Damn you Monolith! You ruined Condemned!

It still pains me to think of Condemnned. AAAGGGHHH PAAAIIIINNNN!!!!!

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Gone Gonzo
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The Rusk:

Although on a more inquisitive note, what made you like the first Far Cry more than the new one? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I'm just curious is all.

It works
it works
IT WORKS!

In case you hadn't worked it out yet, my Far Cry 2 has suffered from amongst others the 69% glitch, the random unopenable door glitch, the car explodes for no apparent reason glitch, the falling through the level glitch and the unkillable assasination target glitch.

Far Cry has some minor glitches but it basically worked. It also had evil mutant monkies, a sense of humor, genuinely jaw dropping graphics, a mercenary in a cow boy hat, solid sneak'm'snipe gameplay and evil freaking monkies!

Although, t be honest my main problems with Far Cry 2 (besides the glitches) are that it ahs nothing to do with Far Cry and the level of hype that surrounds it. ar Cry sort of dropped fom the sky and it was great, Far Cry 2 was supposed to be this super awesome reboot of the franchise but it didn't quite quite quitequitequitequitequite...

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I wasn't terribly impressed with Broken Sword 4, even though I rather liked 3. Sure, 4 had 90% fewer box puzzles, and then promptly broke everything else.

Red Alert 3 felt rather unnecessary in so many ways.

Dreamfall somewhat pales in comparison to the Longest Journey, though much of that comes from the fact the end is really just a series of cliffhangers which will probably never be resolved now that Age of Conan is bringing down Funcom(or so it seems).

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Fable 2.

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Shurikens and Lightning:

I was like 9 at the time so i didnt care about graphics and again 9 so i didnt care about plotlines. The point was that I thought they were equal not greater or less. Plus I thought the ending was brilliant and bone chilling. Seeing the ship fly away may not resolve the plotlines (what plot did you want answered by the way?) but it proved that there would be a third and now there is but its a MuhMorPuhGah!

Well, off the top of my head, I wanted the HK factory plotline resolved, because a good deal of exposition was about that. Also, I'd like if Kreia's turn wasn't obvious from the first time you talked to her. Also, looking at your first sentence, when did I mention graphics? Finally, you're right, the ending was bone-chilling, but can't compare to the ending to KotOR 1, where you actually felt like you accomplished something.

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Definitely Deus ex

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FF10 to FF10-2 *gah*

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