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Press Junketeer
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NoMoreSanity:
Gears of War 2. Nuff said.

you cannot compare GoW 2 with Gow 1, GoW 2 is almost the same game with more goodies and better and more gory graphics, or at least that's what I think

MGS 4(answering the thread)

Gone Gonzo
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Super Mario Sunshine, The main reason that people hate is because its predecessor, Super Mario 64, kept many of us from hanging ourselves.

Gone Gonzo
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Rome: Total War and Medieval 2: Total war, they were never quite as good as Medieval 1, it might just be me but, I thought to lay a siege you needed a damned supply line! I also preferred the water to have regions

Gone Gonzo
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Seconding Deus Ex: IW, and MGS4.

Anonymous Source
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Kingdom Hearts then Chain of Memories..... technically its a "midquel" but whatever the combat system was crap

Gone Gonzo
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Sewblon:
Super Mario Sunshine, The main reason that people hate is because its predecessor, Super Mario 64, kept many of us from hanging ourselves.

Wins my vote.

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k3v1n:

NoMoreSanity:
Gears of War 2. Nuff said.

you cannot compare GoW 2 with Gow 1, GoW 2 is almost the same game with more goodies and better and more gory graphics, or at least that's what I think

MGS 4(answering the thread)

I like how you said you can't compare gears 2 to gears 1, and then immediately compared them ^^

To keep on-topic: I'd say Spyro the dragon 2 was pretty awful. Where did all those poor voice actors and dreadful cutscenes come from?

Press Junketeer
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My quote isnt working but i must reply:

Whoops I forgot the other definition of Resolution. And Yeah it was obvious she would turn on you but its obvious in every WW2 game you win but it is still a great ending sometimes. And your right. During the first one seeing that chick hold my arm as I took over the world is amazing and I did feel accomplished but I never got bone chill which I like in a game. Either way Great games aggreed?

Muckraker
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Anything after Crash and Spyro started being made by a different company (I think it was after number 3 in both.) Also, Does goldeneye: rouge agent count, or are people still denying its very existence?

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shadow_pirate22:
Also, Does goldeneye: rouge agent count, or are people still denying its very existence?

I deny its existence, because it's called Goldeneye: Rogue Agent. "Rouge" is French for "red."

Mercenaries 2...terrible story, vehicle damage was even more spastic than the original, same with weapon accuracy...plus the fuel and shop systems were annoying and completely unnecessary. Oh and the voice acting was pretty bad.

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Amarok:

k3v1n:

NoMoreSanity:
Gears of War 2. Nuff said.

you cannot compare GoW 2 with Gow 1, GoW 2 is almost the same game with more goodies and better and more gory graphics, or at least that's what I think

MGS 4(answering the thread)

I like how you said you can't compare gears 2 to gears 1, and then immediately compared them ^^

To keep on-topic: I'd say Spyro the dragon 2 was pretty awful. Where did all those poor voice actors and dreadful cutscenes come from?

What the smarter guy said. Also, that they are basically the game is the reason I list it as a lousy sequel, since the gameply is near identical to Gears 1, with lousier story, gameplay and characters. SO it would count as a "lousy sequel" then.

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COD3. not bad, Just didn't have the same magic as its predecessors.

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Archemetis:
Two words.

Jade Coccoon.

[EDIT]:

oh you mean games that looks shite compared to their sequals...

Oh well forget what i said...
thought you meant games that were better then their sequals
(I didn't read the OP)

Uhm...
The first Spiderman game based on the movies.

Wrong again, he means sequels that are shite compared to the original, so I'm hoping you'd agree that SPidey 2 is not one, since it is way better than the generic (but fun) 1. Spidey 3 on the other hand...

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Briainer:
condemned!!

a great thriller thats acctually scares the shit out of you great story,voice acting(script),great atmosphere and good combat(even tough the combat can get a bit boring towards the end)

condemned 2 a plot that ruins everything, terrible voice acting(listen to ethan in this one he sounds terrible), the script seems like it was writting by a five year old with no mystery or dramatic scenes in the game.

they did make the combat a bit better but that makes up for nothing

Yeah I played the demo and didn't have much fun, I didn't even think the combat was much improved..or rather I didn't like what it had become, I prefered the simple blunt attacks. ALso Greg Grunberg RULES! Apparently they didn't even want him back for 2, because "Ethan's gone in a different direction as a character" which apparently merits a whole new voice...one which isn't pure awesome ¬_¬

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willard3:

shadow_pirate22:
Also, Does goldeneye: rouge agent count, or are people still denying its very existence?

I deny its existence, because it's called Goldeneye: Rogue Agent. "Rouge" is French for "red."

Um...what does that have to do with anything :/ it's not even the same word

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Aarn13:
I'd say FFX and FFX-2... FFX-2 made me lose faith in the FF series ><

Nice to see a new face on the forums. Nice avatar...

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Sparrowsabre7:

Archemetis:
Two words.

Jade Coccoon.

[EDIT]:

oh you mean games that looks shite compared to their sequals...

Oh well forget what i said...
thought you meant games that were better then their sequals
(I didn't read the OP)

Uhm...
The first Spiderman game based on the movies.

Wrong again, he means sequels that are shite compared to the original, so I'm hoping you'd agree that SPidey 2 is not one, since it is way better than the generic (but fun) 1. Spidey 3 on the other hand...

Spidey 2 > Spidey 1, that's how the world works.

But yeah, I hold true to my statement about the original Jade Coccoon being better then any sequals.

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every "chrono" game after chrono trigger.

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Halo, singleplayer wise.

Beat Writer
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2 words : Final Fantasy

Beat Writer
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I really enjoyed Tales of Symphonia on the Gamecube...

And then I played one of the other "Tales" games (I don't even remember which one) and it shat on my hopes and dreams for continuing playing this franchise. Of course it seems like this always happens when I find an RPG I like that comes out with a new volume.

*SIGH*

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Prince of Persia Sands of Time then The next two.... I agree w/ yatzhee on this matter Gold bronze silver....

Gone Gonzo
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I have a question about KOTOR 2. What was the deal with Darth Nihilus? He really had no storyline significance. Did the developers intend to do more stuff with him but just didn't have time?

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KOTOR 2, FFX-2, and MGS 2/3/4 are all games that i believe never did justice to the originals

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I'm going to be the second to say Prince of Persia, but only Warrior Within was inferior in my opinion. I felt that the Dark Prince of Two Thrones was an excellent addition, and helped make the plotline a little more mature. Also, the gameplay got better and better as the series went on, just the art & character design went to hell in the second.

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Why the hell did it take Deus Ex so long to be mentioned?

Also, Metal Gear Solid 2 sucked massively, but 3 made up for it.

KotOR 2 wasn't as good as KotOR.

Final Fantasy X-2 was just....god awful.

UT3 was decent but no UT99.

Doom 3 was meh.

Kingdom Hearts 2 totally killed the awesome level design of the first one.

Anonymous Source
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Supposedly The game would have alot more light/dark decisions before it got rushed out... and idk if Darth Nihilius got his story plotline cut but,... you have to admit its a sweet mask

Edit: oops i was trying to quote Ace of Spades....
so ya KoToR > KoToR 2

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Would anyone agree with me when i say Resistance? i only completed the second one because of a lust for knowledge, pondered the last clip for an hour, the gave the game back to my mate then moved back to CoD

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shadow_pirate22:
Anything after Crash and Spyro started being made by a different company (I think it was after number 3 in both.) Also, Does goldeneye: rouge agent count, or are people still denying its very existence?

agreed, Naughty Dog did CTR aswell before handing it over and effectively killing my childhood, the 3 spyro games (and 4 crash games) sit proudly in my top games ever (i think we may have nostalgia to thank for that)

sorry for the double post, im kinda new to the whole concept of forums

Muckraker
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smon:
Would anyone agree with me when i say Resistance? i only completed the second one because of a lust for knowledge, pondered the last clip for an hour, the gave the game back to my mate then moved back to CoD

No. Resistance 1 was good, but Resistance 2 was a vast improvement on the game from every aspect.

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Aarn13:
I'd say FFX and FFX-2... FFX-2 made me lose faith in the FF series ><

FF10-2..Was a horrible, horrible, horribe game.. :/...
But FF12 was the shit. I loved it so much.

Gone Gonzo
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NoMoreSanity:

What the smarter guy said. Also, that they are basically the game is the reason I list it as a lousy sequel, since the gameply is near identical to Gears 1, with lousier story, gameplay and characters. SO it would count as a "lousy sequel" then.

I've been scratching my head over this and I honestly can't think of anything that's superior in the first Gears of War aside from the network code hiccups that I'm sure weren't there in the first game.

Gone Gonzo
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Devil May Cry 2 was a decent action game, but when compared to Devil May Cry, it's horrible.

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Woe Is You:

NoMoreSanity:

What the smarter guy said. Also, that they are basically the game is the reason I list it as a lousy sequel, since the gameply is near identical to Gears 1, with lousier story, gameplay and characters. SO it would count as a "lousy sequel" then.

I've been scratching my head over this and I honestly can't think of anything that's superior in the first Gears of War aside from the network code hiccups that I'm sure weren't there in the first game.

That's the point. They changed nothing to make it a better game.

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Triffid:

smon:
Would anyone agree with me when i say Resistance? i only completed the second one because of a lust for knowledge, pondered the last clip for an hour, the gave the game back to my mate then moved back to CoD

No. Resistance 1 was good, but Resistance 2 was a vast improvement on the game from every aspect.

It felt like it was missing something, they had tried to copy CoD with some aspects of the controls and done it really badly, the game felt far too military in comparison with the first, number 1 was more about the mystery of the Chimera than anything else, i disliked the vibrance of the colours and found myself playing it for the story alone, it lacks the replay value of the first and the new co op is ... well ... shite, id borrow it again probably but never make the purchase. Dont get me wrong it is a good game, but not nearly as fun for me as the first

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