Ok... I dont think anyone will agree with me on this, but I dont think there was enough to do in the game.
I have done, what I believe to be, every quest in the game. I have discovered evey location in the game, I have every weapon, and almost every achevement. The achevements I dont have require me to replay the game.
The game is really short, I did everything in a day of playing. Good and Evil are clearly defined. And there aren't enough quests and real decisions in the game to warrent my replaying the game.
The number of enemies in the game is rather small. The number of weapon variations in the game are even smaller. You cant go into most buildings either.
The game seems almost half done. Oblivion tops it, in my opinion, hands down. There was a lot more to do in it, and it has a lot higher replay value to me.
I'm just curious if anyone agrees with me.

Edit: I would like to point out I did say ALMOST all the achevements, the Karma ones being the ones Excluded... I would also like to say I played for a day, I.E. I woke up in the morining, sat my ass down and didnt get up till about the time I woke up the day previous.

Edit: When I say I have done everything, I don't mean I have Opened Every Lock, Hacked Every Computer, Or done every quest ending. But I have done each quest once, as I cannot bring myself to play through again.

Edit... Again: I am also aware that quest endings differ from eachother quite a bit, but the fact still remains that I dont have enough reason to care about the game, or anything in it, to actually warrent my going back and playing it when I can just as easily go on youtube and see a video of the other endings...

Edit: Yes, I am in some ways, an achevement whore. In the sence that I work to get all the achevements and work out from there... I found no real value to the game, in achevement whoreing or in any of the other various tasks there is to do... That includes the overall environment, the character models, the voice overs, the enemies, ect
*NOTE!!!! Don't get the impression I dislike Fallout's Graphics. They were amazing.

Your playing it wrong?

Wouldn't you need to do 3 playthroughs to get all the karma acheivements?

EDIT: Sorry, missed the "almost".

I agree with you that the game seems half done. It was rushed out, certainly.

I played it, found it mildly entertaining, finished it and moved on. There are much better games out there.

it is impossible to, in one day, have discoveraed EVERY location, finished EVERY quest and done ALL the achievements...and if you have...you have to play less a day

You're crazy? Admitedly Oblivion has more to do, but the combat system in F3 is far superior.
I play it waaay too much, I had sex this morning and my first post coital thought was 'I wonder how many XP points I'd get for that!' Ergo: Awesome game!!

Do you mean you played it all day and got almost everything, or you have 24 hours of playtime?

There is definitely a difference, because I think you exaggerate, sir.

Supernovajake:
Wouldn't you need to do 3 playthroughs to get all the karma acheivements?

I would like to point out I did say ALMOST all the achevements. The Karma Achevements being the ones excluded

Are you just trolling for the sake of it? Fallout 3 is one of the biggest games this year. I honestly don't belive you got everything in a day.

Fallout three was one of the biggest games of the year BEFORE they released it, now its just a game that, while being interesting and well done, is short.

And has a magnificently stupid storyline with an even worse ending.

I liked it, until you get kicked in the family jewels by the utterly rubbish ending.

It took more than A day, but I wouldn't have minded seeing a few extra side quests. Then again I'd prefer being able to continue playing it post final event

The_Deleted:
You're crazy? Admitedly Oblivion has more to do, but the combat system in F3 is far superior.
I play it waaay too much, I had sex this morning and my first post coital thought was 'I wonder how many XP points I'd get for that!' Ergo: Awesome game!!

Too much information... far too much information.

Anyway, I have to agree with K3v1n: There is physically no way you can do everything in 1 day; either in the sense of sunrise to sunset or 24 hours.

Sounds like you just farmed the achievements to me, pal.

But if you really did finish 100 hours of content in a mere day, then I salute you.

Powerhelix:
Ok... I dont think anyone will agree with me on this, but I dont think there was enough to do in the game.
I have done, what I believe to be, every quest in the game. I have discovered evey location in the game, I have every weapon, and almost every achevement. The achevements I dont have require me to replay the game.
The game is really short, I did everything in a day of playing. Good and Evil are clearly defined. And there aren't enough quests and real decisions in the game to warrent my replaying the game.
The number of enemies in the game is rather small. The number of weapon variations in the game are even smaller. You cant go into most buildings either.
The game seems almost half done. Oblivion tops it, in my opinion, hands down. There was a lot more to do in it, and it has a lot higher replay value to me.
I'm just curious if anyone agrees with me.
I would like to point out I did say ALMOST all the achevements, the Karma ones being the ones Excluded... I would also like to say I played for a day, I.E. I woke up in the morining, sat my ass down and didnt get up till about the time I woke up the day previous.

I am still working on Fallout 3 and thought it had plenty of content, but I do agree that Oblivion is FAR better. I think that Bethesda should have made a TES instead of picking up on a new liscence. While I applaud them for the atmosphere of the game and the boldness of picking up a fanfavorite for a new kind of adaption, I think they should stick to their roots.

I've been roleplaying as I play it, somehow makes everything last a lot longer.

I modded the game so it is ridiculously hard on very hard and I am playing a small guns character. Fun though as 50% of the time I have to run instead of just spamming stim packs.

I still haven't found the code to get to the MIRV Launcher. I refuse to finish my first playthrough until I get my mits on that badboy.

IMO fallout 3 had enough to do. i got my 20+ gaming hours with 2 characters and i enjoyed every second of it.

The statement "This game feels half done" rings so very false when I'm not even done my first playthrough and have played almost 30 hours, and I think I've only done maybe 60% of all the quests I could feasibly do on this one playthrough

Aardvark:
I still haven't gotten the MIRV Launcher. I refuse to finish my first playthrough until I find that badboy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-079ko59LQ&feature=related

I found it by accident but this video shows you where you can find it.

On topic: I needed about 50 hours to finish the game. I don't know how you got everything in one day.

This is clearly a troll.

Even if you have all the achievements (and I'd want a link to your gamertag before believing that), there's plenty to do in the game that isn't linked to an achievement. You didn't sit down with this game and complete for first playthrough discovering everything in one day - even if you had a walkthrough (which frankly doesn't count as completingi t yourself, does it?), it's not possible to do it in that amount of time.

Did you hack every computer? Did you pick every lock? Did you activate the orbital weapons platform? Did you launch the ICBM and find the T-51b power armour or did you give the keys to Crowley? Did you disarm the nuke or did you destroy Megaton? Did you help the ghouls take Tenpenny tower or did you clear them out of the tunnels? Did you sabotage the water systems to drive everyone out of Vault 101 or hand control of the vault to the rebels?

I know where to find it and how

That's how I'm lengthening the gameplay.

Although I don't think you can do it all in one day, Fallout does seem incredibly short. I've done all the quests and finished the main quest. Wanna know how long it took me to do that in Morrowind? I don't know either I'm still not done yet.

Don't get me wrong I love fallout its just that I expected more of it. I tried scouring the wasteland look for giant mobs of raiders to kill but I guess I've already killed every evil doer in the capital wasteland.

BTW: Outlaw star is epic

4 weeks of wandering avoiding doing the main quests, still not reached the end as people tell me it's rubbish Im loathed to get there just yet. Built three characters the second one Ive played for the fifth week and my mechanic a further week. I am now having an enforced vacation from the wastes as my memory stick is full and Im too skint to pay 60 quid for a new hard drive having tried four times to pick up one cheap off ebay and getting ripped each time.....

So I totally diagree about the lack of game, i occasionally play it just to walk listening to Galaxy as I love the games music.

The Amazing Orgazmo:
[quote="Aardvark" post="9.82455.1125285"]
Orbital Weapons platform? ICBM? Where!?

You don't actually get aboard the OWP, you only fire off its payload from one of the dishes dotted on the west north part of the map. It fires mini-nukes anyway and is not that impressive anyway.

I play it whenever I get bored of oblivion (which takes at least a week of solid playing, even w/o Knights of the Nine + Shivering Isles), get bored of it after a while, and go back to oblivion. Which is what I was hoping it would do for me.

there's now ay you could have discovered EVERYTHING. I read an interview with the guy who wrote the guide, which has EVERYTHING, and he said it took him more than 100 hours to play it and then write it, and this is a professional we're talking about here. If it took him 100 hours to do everything, there's no way it took you 24 hours to do everything.

FarleShadow:

The Amazing Orgazmo:
[quote="Aardvark" post="9.82455.1125285"]
Orbital Weapons platform? ICBM? Where!?

You don't actually get aboard the OWP, you only fire off its payload from one of the dishes dotted on the west north part of the map. It fires mini-nukes anyway and is not that impressive anyway.

Nevertheless, it can be done. Launching the ICBM would also show he made it to the missile silo instead of giving Crowley the keys. Assuming he even went and got the keys in the first place.

Supernovajake:
Wouldn't you need to do 3 playthroughs to get all the karma acheivements?

EDIT: Sorry, missed the "almost".

You can exploit the achievement system. You save just before the level up, get it as good, reload the save point, steal stuff until you hit neutral and level up, reload again and get to evil then level up the third time.

i agree with the quests thing, the storyline kind of sucked, theyre are not really that many ennemies i guess, oblivion was better except in this respect: GORE

I have proof that you havent. Have you discovered the alien pistol or Dogmeat or Abrahams Rifle? Have you discovered every location ingame? Like fable you have to immerse yourself in the world and not just do the story.

But one thing that i wish was there was More interesting loot and dungeon crawling. For example you see a Science lab and after about an hour of trekking and fighting you come accross a awesome weapon or armor.

I also feel like the survival part is a bit light and not hardcore like i wished. Like you have to eat and drink water to survive no matter your health.

and Finally Taking away the drug names and replacing them with disney drugs is the stupidest thing i have ever heard.

While I agree that the overall content in Fallout 3 is low compared to Oblivion, I feel the Quests are more fulfilling than "Kill X amount of baddies" and the like in Oblivion.

And I know there is a quest in Fallout where you kill tons of enemies, but that has a nice twist to it.