Anonymouse:
Yeah the game is half done. As you said you cant enter most of the buildings and the ones you can are freaking copy/pasted. I just cant wait till a decent amount of user mods gets released for it.

I'm just going to have to say this. Since virtually everywhere in the game has different bits scattered about in different areas, I'm going to assume you're ignoring those when you say 'copy/pasted'. Exactly how many variations on 'Box With Stuff In It' were you expecting? These things are all standardized in the game, but it's the same way in real life, and for the same reason - it's easier to construct something using the same plans (or with slight variations thereof) than it is to come up with a whole new one each time. If you really want to take this complaint up with someone, take it to the architects and city planners.

I would agree, though, that the ending is just an utter failure. The entire point of a free-roaming open world game is that it's free and open. If there's only one ending, then that just completely screws everything else over.

But what really kills it is the removal of the epilogue. Eg: "With the death of Lucas Simms, Moriarty slowly expanded his influence over megaton through blackmail and assassination until he owned the town." or, "With both the AntAgonizer and The Mechanist driven from Canterbury Commons, it became a wealthy trading center. But when raiders attacked later, there was nobody to defend it, and the town was wiped out." Nothing. You get this unflinching feeling that nothing you have done has had any effect. It just sucks all of the meaning out of the game.

beastman227:

not neccesarily who I was talking about, but then again you're not one of the people whos' post I read or I did and you obviously don't like games with depth.

But, you obviously don't care to elaborate because of your pathetic one sentence retort that really doesn't seem to do anything but cause a problem. I suppose you want me to give you a gold star that says "I play games because I enjoy them and still find quality ones with high budgets lacking, and as such I dislike them !"

So because I played the game and didn't like it I CLEARLY hate big-budget games? I just don't like big-budget games that have horrible aim systems, 16 quests, limited character creation, and almost no character development.

I didn't think the aim was horrible, and if your complaining about VATS then I'll offer a few arguments against that: 1) Exploding Heads 2) Exploding Torsos 3) Slow motion exploding Heads.
The game also has about 25 sidequests, which while I agree, for a big budget RPG is a bit pitiful. But the small number allows them to be more fleshed out and creative then the quests you bumped into every second of Oblivion.
While I agree that the character development in the main quest was bad, you should walk around the wasteland and talk to some of the other quest givers, or even just random people in cities. They're not just info-machines with either nothing to say or a quest attached to them, but people with personalities.
Anyway, that's my two cents for now.

Its a big game. I find it hard to believe you did everything in about 20 hours. I agree with you the amount of bugs make it feel rushed though, although I preferred it to Oblivion. Then again, having my testicles hammered flat would be preferable to Oblivion.
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Slayer_2:
How can ANYONE call the ending bad?!? It was like the Iron Giant going ramage on those Enclave bastards. The Iron Giant with a sense of HUMOR! Sure it sucks hard that you can't keep playing, even if you send her in, but just go back to a previous save...

What? Sure, the robot was funny but all I remember was following it pointlessly as it shot lasers at the Enclave. Was there a secret bit you played that I missed where you could actually do something instead of sit through 10 minutes of shameless, unnecessary padding? Everything after you found the G.E.C.K. sucked hard, and smacked of being really, really rushed.

Spartan Bannana:

I didn't think the aim was horrible, and if your complaining about VATS then I'll offer a few arguments against that: 1) Exploding Heads 2) Exploding Torsos 3) Slow motion exploding Heads.

Hahaha yes! I'll second this. Side note: exploding heads in Fallout made my girlfriend actually run to the bathroom to throw up (although she DID have the flu at the time...). Still, that is a triumph in my books.

To compare it to Oblivion:

1.A more open environment
2.Less Marked quests

Allthough the main quest was rather, uh, short, I liked the game very much on my first playtrough. But as someone pointed out beforehand, I more or less roleplayed it through, giving the clock some more time to run. I finnished at around 19 hours played, which is a damn shame since I feel like I missed most of the good stuff, and I know I did.

But yes, the missions after G.E.C.K felt like "let's finnish this alredy". I would've definately liked to see some more to the main questline.

Exploding heads are awesome, though. Very awesome.

The very ending with the purifier I thought was absolutley fantasticly thought out though, but then again this is like my second RPG, so not many referancepoints, really. Without trying to spoil it too much, I wished my character would've been playable AFTER the purifier got turned on. Perhaps some kind of mega rad-away would've justified it.

I love Fallout 3. Like it way more than Oblivion. Obliv seemed shallower somehow. I actually feel some emotional attachment to the characters and the places in FO3.

70 hours into the game so far. I finished the main quest but afterwards reverted to a save game so I could keep adventuring.

Also, there's supposedly a major content release slated for March that will expand the world. And Jan. and Feb. are s'posed to have releases, too.

The Shade:
I actually feel some emotional attachment to the characters and the places in FO3.

Forgot about this in my post. The picture of Sarah Lyons looking through the purifier door still comes to mind occasionally, giving me a feeling like I've been at a funeral of a close relative or something.

Which is rather disturbing, but still proves that I sitll have a soul.

Also, did anyone else go to Andale? That little town with the ideal American families? Where everything seems too perfect and no one seems to notice they live in a nuclear wasteland?

J-just...don't l-look in th-the shed behind th-the house...*gulp*

The Shade:
Also, did anyone else go to Andale? That little town with the ideal American families? Where everything seems too perfect and no one seems to notice they live in a nuclear wasteland?

J-just...don't l-look in th-the shed behind th-the house...*gulp*

I looked in the shed. Gah!

Then I had to pull off a sweet speech challenge to convince the Andale folk that what was in there was A-OK by me.

... but it wasn't, so I killed them dead as they walked away.

Clemenstation:
... but it wasn't, so I killed them dead as they walked away.

Aye. I didn't even bother trying to explain myself. Just leapt right into it. Me and Charon (who I call Argyle) made short work of a couple of hillbillies armed with knives.

Whatever happened to the kids? They just disappeared in my game... I like to fondly think that they went off and were initiated into a Raider crew, and that I will eventually run into them some day and eventually finish off this whole Andale nightmare.

Powerhelix:
I have EVERY weapon, that includes the Alien gun... And I have discovered EVERY location, and I found Dogmeat at the Junkyard

I don't know what all the achievements are for Fallout 3, so some of these may be repeated, but you need to find your self a hobby. This is something I have gotten in the habit of doing for games like Fallout 3 and Oblivion. In the game, you just start collecting random stupid stuff, like for instance I collected torches in Oblivion. A simple enough task, but by the time I quit playing that character I had over 300. Also in Oblivion and I have started doing this in Fallout too, I collected one of Each different type of weapon and armor and repaired them to full health. In Fallout, getting everything to full health is the hard part. Also try to get every following character, I think there are seven not including Dogmeat.

MattKirby:
Alright, I've read liek 16 posts and think I can formulate a valid opinion.

I think you're an achievement hounder because if you want to play a game for the sake of playing a fucking game you would have found it more enthralling as oppossed to half done. How do I know this because I spent the entire first of the game out the vault I went the wrong fuckign way for half an hour and did some questing. If you paly it casually it's very good I think the game is good and I think the storyline is as good as any game that's come out so far though I think Half Life 2 was a great game. I feel now that fallout 3 is the best game I've played. I just bought oblivion but haven't played it.

To sum up : If you play the game for the sake of atmosphere and gameplay it's a definite shot to play and it's definetly the best fallout without saying. But to say it's half done is absoloutley prepostorous. There's so much you can do. And as for the game being short. Just try actually walking around instead of Pip-Boy Teleporting.

my sentiments exactly, but with less anger. While the main quest is somewhat short and probably could be done in a day, to say that you've done everything is simply impossible. With games like Fallout 3 and even Half Life 2 to some degree, it is always important to remember that these games are designed and built to be more about the journey than the destination. The actual enjoyment you get from a game comes from playing it rather than just finishing it. Some people seem to not realize this and thus don't get the enjoyment they would if they just looked at the game with a different mindset. For example, part of the fun of Fallout 3 really is in just wondering around the wasteland with Dogmeat with no real destination in mind.

Another way to get more out of Fallout 3 is to look for "Non Quest Quests", or "Note Quests" (Just made those names up). These are the little things you can do that make characters do different things, or are are just a series of notes that are interesting. Examples of these are things like giving that one chick in Rivet City Ant Pheromones which causes her to get married to Diego at a wedding you can actually attend. Or finding the note that leads you to a key to open up a case and find "Naughty Nightwear" which you are rewarded for if you return to Girdershade. I have no clue how many of these type quests there are, but they do provide a good bit of interest that is easy to overlook if you only want to complete all the side quests and grab all the bobble heads.

P.S. Outlaw Star rocks. I just re watched the whole series last weekend.

MattKirby:
Just try actually walking around instead of Pip-Boy Teleporting.

How the hell do you propose I found all the locations by "Pipboy teleporting" Everywhere... seeing as you need to have been to the location before you can teleport there....
Think before you speak man...

And you guys, in general, seem to think that I'm doing somthing wrong...
I'm not... I have done absolutely everything there is to do, except for the Notebook quests (thank you to whoever pointed that out to me, I'll be sure to go back and do them, I never really read my notebook)...

I think this is one of those games that follow well in line with some of the aspects of Morrowind, that were somewhat lacking in Oblivion. Doing stuff just for the sake of doing it. You don't need some promise of caps or a nifty new coat just to want to figure out what lives in that burned out crater over there. You may have completed "almost" every quest and gotten "almost" every achievement, but I seriously doubt you've done everything there is to do in the game in a 24 hour sitting.

Powerhelix:

MattKirby:
Just try actually walking around instead of Pip-Boy Teleporting.

How the hell do you propose I found all the locations by "Pipboy teleporting" Everywhere... seeing as you need to have been to the location before you can teleport there....
Think before you speak man...

And you guys, in general, seem to think that I'm doing somthing wrong...
I'm not... I have done absolutely everything there is to do, except for the Notebook quests (thank you to whoever pointed that out to me, I'll be sure to go back and do them, I never really read my notebook)...

I don't know where you get off randomly cutting a snippet out of my post and pulling it out of context but that post was implemented to more than just you. Other than that re-reading your posts it seems as though you cranked/grinded or just cheated. I don't think you enjoyed the game becasue you just wanted to beat it. Maybe you should take it slower and actually think about your character and try to immerse yourself. But then again I can't tell people how to play a game.

Oh and I do realize that you need to go to the location in order to Pip-Port there I just mean instead of Pip-Porting everywhere simply drink in the atmosphere more.

Fallout 3 has loods to do!!!!!!

Does anyone know exactly when the Operation Anchorage DLC is going to be released? I know they said this month, but I haven't heard a date yet.