From what i can gather on the wiki article on HDTV, 720p is the native resolution,and 1080 i or p is a process of up scaling done to fit the image to the screen size ( i meaning interleaved, and p meaning progressive). I'd guess that means that PS3 games advertise what the native resolution is (720p) and the 360 games advertise whatever upscaling the games support (both support either 1080 i and p; the mgs4 box says that its 720p, but when i load the game it says 1080i )
Danprezco: I own a PS3, my brother owns an XBOX 360, on the same TV (1080p) we cannot tell the difference on the same game (Both Orange Box and Oblivion) so I really don't think that it makes that much of a difference anyway.
The level of graphics between two games and on the differing systems would be the same. A company would not make a game with differing graphics on different systems. It would cost too much to create better graphics on either. They only way for a specific console to shine is with exclusives which the PS3 is lacking.
PS3 has a way better line up of exclusives this year;there's another thread somewhere on these forums that simultaneous highlights the 360's lack of many decent exclusives, and ps3's multitude of them this year. And no i can't really be assed to link it at 2 in the morning:P
Danprezco: I own a PS3, my brother owns an XBOX 360, on the same TV (1080p) we cannot tell the difference on the same game (Both Orange Box and Oblivion) so I really don't think that it makes that much of a difference anyway.
The level of graphics between two games and on the differing systems would be the same. A company would not make a game with differing graphics on different systems. It would cost too much to create better graphics on either. They only way for a specific console to shine is with exclusives which the PS3 is lacking.
PS3 has a way better line up of exclusives this year;there's another thread somewhere on these forums that simultaneous highlights the 360's lack of many decent exclusives, and ps3's multitude of them this year. And no i can't really be assed to link it at 2 in the morning:P
Yes, this year. The last few years have been lacking on their part though.
GyroCaptain: You say you want a resolution, well, you know, we don't want to change the world... -Where was I?
The poly counts and texture use, along with lighting and effects, are what brings greater realism on any but the biggest TVs. This generation of consoles isn't that much higher in terms of pixel count, but I think we can agree Halo 3 running in 640p looks a hell of a lot better than Halo PC running in 1024x768. Yeah, devs get lazy and it's annoying, but photorealism is mostly a pipe dream for the current generation.
And even on a big TV, the resolution doesn't really bring "realism". It just makes things look sharper and more easily distinguished, something that would be beneficial in e.g. a strategy title with lots of text and detail. Also, whenever the graphics are *drawn* not generated, there is every reason to use the full 1080p resolution. (For example, Street Fighter HD Remix, or even 2D HUDs layered on top of FPS games which run internally at lower res.)
"Black Hawk Down" on 480p (DVD) looks more realistic than COD4 does at any resolution. Clearly, if realism is the number one priority, then we need to throw processing power at making better pixels, not more pixels, until we can make *really* good pixels.
$90 bucks for an HDMI cable? Really? I am sorry sir, but you just got hosed.
And if you want the BEST looking native 1080p game out there it is still WipeOut HD, period. It just might hold that crown for a long time to come too.
Danprezco: I own a PS3, my brother owns an XBOX 360, on the same TV (1080p) we cannot tell the difference on the same game (Both Orange Box and Oblivion) so I really don't think that it makes that much of a difference anyway.
The level of graphics between two games and on the differing systems would be the same. A company would not make a game with differing graphics on different systems. It would cost too much to create better graphics on either. They only way for a specific console to shine is with exclusives which the PS3 is lacking.
PS3 has a way better line up of exclusives this year;there's another thread somewhere on these forums that simultaneous highlights the 360's lack of many decent exclusives, and ps3's multitude of them this year. And no i can't really be assed to link it at 2 in the morning:P
Yes, this year. The last few years have been lacking on their part though.
Yeah i'd pretty much agree. theres been loads of great exclusives, such as Heavenly Swrod, Lair, etc, but they're more obscure games that people who already own the console may buy, as opposed to being the big name system sellers, of which the ps3 has had MGS4, Unchartered, motorstorm and a few others. This year will be better on that front with God Of War 3, Killzone 2 and FFvs13 among the ps3's big name exclusive line up
Danprezco: I own a PS3, my brother owns an XBOX 360, on the same TV (1080p) we cannot tell the difference on the same game (Both Orange Box and Oblivion) so I really don't think that it makes that much of a difference anyway.
The level of graphics between two games and on the differing systems would be the same. A company would not make a game with differing graphics on different systems. It would cost too much to create better graphics on either. They only way for a specific console to shine is with exclusives which the PS3 is lacking.
PS3 has a way better line up of exclusives this year;there's another thread somewhere on these forums that simultaneous highlights the 360's lack of many decent exclusives, and ps3's multitude of them this year. And no i can't really be assed to link it at 2 in the morning:P
Yes, this year. The last few years have been lacking on their part though.
Yeah i'd pretty much agree. theres been loads of great exclusives, such as Heavenly Sword, Lair, etc, but they're more obscure games that people who already own the console may buy, as opposed to being the big name system sellers, of which the ps3 has had MGS4, Uncharted, motorstorm and a few others. This year will be better on that front with God Of War 3, Killzone 2 and FFvs13 among the ps3's big name exclusive line up
I've been meaning to play Heavenly Sword, but I really don't want to spend $50 on it, and Lair was ruined by 6 axis controls. For me at least, Uncharted lost all of it's appeal when you started getting attacked by zombie monkey things. At least the coming year is looking better.
JamminOz07: But how much would it cost my to buy a current gaming PC which can run these newest games at these massively high resolutions? $3000? $4000? Not an investment I'm willing to make, purely for playing video games.
you bought a $90 hdmi cable. since you obviously like to shop at best buy, heres a link
JamminOz07: So, I spent a fair bit of cash in 2007 buying a 1080p LCD TV. Another $90 for a HDMI cable so I can now have High-Def gaming goodness, thanks to my Xbox360.
$90 for an HDMI cable is an absolute scam. Cable quality does not affect a digital signal. You can get the exact same picture for $10 or less on Amazon.com. You got ripped-off, unless you needed a very long cable.
Danprezco: I own a PS3, my brother owns an XBOX 360, on the same TV (1080p) we cannot tell the difference on the same game (Both Orange Box and Oblivion) so I really don't think that it makes that much of a difference anyway.
The level of graphics between two games and on the differing systems would be the same. A company would not make a game with differing graphics on different systems. It would cost too much to create better graphics on either. They only way for a specific console to shine is with exclusives which the PS3 is lacking.
PS3 has a way better line up of exclusives this year;there's another thread somewhere on these forums that simultaneous highlights the 360's lack of many decent exclusives, and ps3's multitude of them this year. And no i can't really be assed to link it at 2 in the morning:P
Yes, this year. The last few years have been lacking on their part though.
Yeah i'd pretty much agree. theres been loads of great exclusives, such as Heavenly Sword, Lair, etc, but they're more obscure games that people who already own the console may buy, as opposed to being the big name system sellers, of which the ps3 has had MGS4, Uncharted, motorstorm and a few others. This year will be better on that front with God Of War 3, Killzone 2 and FFvs13 among the ps3's big name exclusive line up
I've been meaning to play Heavenly Sword, but I really don't want to spend $50 on it, and Lair was ruined by 6 axis controls. For me at least, Uncharted lost all of it's appeal when you started getting attacked by zombie monkey things. At least the coming year is looking better.
Well i'd definatly recommend Heavenly Sword, it plays quite similarly to God Of War, but with current gen graphics, and the quality motion/ voice acting of the guy who played gollum in LOTR:). I think Lair made the best use of the 6axis Ive seen so far, but they could have included an analogue stick option for those who don't like the 6axis. Id also agree that that part in uncharted is a bit far fetched, and the story line is pretty cheesy to say the least, but i like the game play and the visuals are awesome:) This year's line up will be something to look forward to though
None of your xbox games are in 1080p, they are all rendered at 720p or less then upscaled by the xbox to 1080p. The only difference is the ps3 lets the TV do the upscaling. Don't be fooled by the 1080p thing on your tv.
This is a common problem that has little to do with video gaming and every thing to do with human nature. You shared that you spent quite a bit on your new HDTV. You naturally will want to do everything you can to maximize the pleasure you recieve from it... even the thought of playing a game on your new toy that doesn't maximize it's potential feels like you are cheating yourself. You should really be worried if resolution did not bother you! Then you would derive no joy from your investment rendering it useless to you. Its all Economics 102.
Noticing a difference will depend on screen size and distance from the screen: http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/ PC gaming on a 24" (1920x1200) I notice the details more than 360/PS3 gaming on my mate's 32" (1920x1080) TV simply because of the difference in distance from the screen.
And yes, expected this to be about New Year's resolutions too, haha.
720P is still HD and a lot of HD tvs only accept 1080p signals rather than actually having the capacity to display 1080P (often limited to 1366x768) due to the cheap ones (HD ready) when they first appeared in retail. Resolution is only a part of graphically fidelity the PS2 was much better than the original but still used the same res Tv's available when we only had the Sega/Snes. More expensive cables are a rip-off the OP sounds like he brought into the Monster cable rubbish the signal is digital and far less subseptable to interference especially when dealing with cables less than 2 meters in lenght.
EDIT The OP can't be that much of a resolution snob otherwise you wouldn't touch a console in the first place
JamminOz07: So, I spent a fair bit of cash in 2007 buying a 1080p LCD TV. Another $90 for a HDMI cable so I can now have High-Def gaming goodness, thanks to my Xbox360.
$90 for an HDMI cable is an absolute scam. Cable quality does not affect a digital signal. You can get the exact same picture for $10 or less on Amazon.com. You got ripped-off, unless you needed a very long cable.
Basic HDMI cable, 1.8m long, here in Australia is going to cost you at least au $80. That's a cheapie.
Elite L Dizzy: This is a common problem that has little to do with video gaming and every thing to do with human nature. You shared that you spent quite a bit on your new HDTV. You naturally will want to do everything you can to maximize the pleasure you recieve from it... even the thought of playing a game on your new toy that doesn't maximize it's potential feels like you are cheating yourself. You should really be worried if resolution did not bother you! Then you would derive no joy from your investment rendering it useless to you. Its all Economics 102.
Thanks Dizzy, I really like the way you think :)
FYI, my New Years Resolution is to quit smoking (again.) Then I'll have more cash to spend on games.
Finally, I just grabbed a copy of Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, the only PS3 game I have so far which actually says on the box that it's 1080p. I can't wait to get home this arvo and see how it looks, see if I can notice a difference.
Danprezco: I own a PS3, my brother owns an XBOX 360, on the same TV (1080p) we cannot tell the difference on the same game (Both Orange Box and Oblivion) so I really don't think that it makes that much of a difference anyway.
The level of graphics between two games and on the differing systems would be the same. A company would not make a game with differing graphics on different systems. It would cost too much to create better graphics on either. They only way for a specific console to shine is with exclusives which the PS3 is lacking.
I don't want to get into a big thing here, but this was not about which console was the best, simply that it makes no diffrence. Anyway, resistance 2 outputs 1080p resolution. some do some don't, and thats that.
unfortunately whilst 1080p is absolutely stunning, it also shows up all the inconsistantcy with consoles, every jaggy, and every blurred texture, my ps3 looked better with out the 1080p if you ask me.
Danprezco: I own a PS3, my brother owns an XBOX 360, on the same TV (1080p) we cannot tell the difference on the same game (Both Orange Box and Oblivion) so I really don't think that it makes that much of a difference anyway.
The level of graphics between two games and on the differing systems would be the same. A company would not make a game with differing graphics on different systems. It would cost too much to create better graphics on either. They only way for a specific console to shine is with exclusives which the PS3 is lacking.
I don't want to get into a big thing here, but this was not about which console was the best, simply that it makes no diffrence. Anyway, resistance 2 outputs 1080p resolution. some do some don't, and thats that.
My intention was not to get into that either. I was only pointing out that the PS3 has less exclusives than the Xbox360 and that the same game on differing systems will look the same. I probably should have mentioned that I own a PS3 and not a 360.
Same with me.