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Paperboy
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Ok I never played RPG games before shooters were my thing 1st and 3rd person view, and I enjoyed Killing in games....there I siad it I ENJOY KILLING IN GAMES.
So when my good friend said why dont you try something a little deeper I said whats the harm,
I got Fallout 3 began to play with the express intention of killing everything I blew Megaton Went to tenpenny tower Killed allister and Burke out of pure spite, I had just finshed the first part of the main quest and was on my way to the museum of Tech when I began finding tapes of people saying goodbye to there family, I was touched for all of 3 seconds untill raiders attacked me but then after finishing this segment I was outside SUPERDUPER mart later on when a child came up to me asking for help finding his father......A child?! I turned on VATS and took aim but I couldnt I just couldnt I walked away and Now I cant play anything that kills, this game has created a moral block in my head I always wondered why my mother would say she couldnt play violent games...Im the same I can no longer pull the trigger, at 16 years of age I cant play a shooting game it wrong and can anyone think of a way to fix this

On the Record
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I'm sorry, but I actually couldn't understand that. Not trying to be a grammar-nazi, but punctuation might help.

Gone Gonzo
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Mr. Madison, what you have just said...etc. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Pulitzer Laureate
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...Really?

Paperboy
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sorry its late in Ireland, I can Barely see the keyboard

Gone Gonzo
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I am known far and wide for my ability to always have a clever thing to say. You sir, I have nothing for.

Gone Gonzo
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Hm... can't say I believe you there, bud.

- J

Gone Gonzo
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The kids can't be killed in Fallout 3. They don't die, they don't get hurt, in fact, I don't even think bullets can hit them.

If you're completely serious about "fixing" this, I'd say go play some GTA. It's almost impossible to not kill something in those games. Even walking down the street is hazardous.

Press Junketeer
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BreakingEZRA:
sorry its late in Ireland, I can Barely see the keyboard

lol

Pulitzer Laureate
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orannis62:
I'm sorry, but I actually couldn't understand that. Not trying to be a grammar-nazi, but punctuation might help.

Ahaha, grammar-nazi. I reckon that was Stage 2 of Hitler's master plan. Sorry for straying off topic.

Fallout is great imo, but I felt it was still too short.

Gone Gonzo
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Play Doom.

Paperboy
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Im serious Im stuck playing Banjo Kazooie all week

Gone Gonzo
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Well, there seems to be one flaw with your grammatic mess of a story, and that is that you cannot take aim in VATS on a child...I don't understand, are you saying that you couldn't kill the child for moral reasons or that the game wouldn't let you?

Gone Gonzo
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BreakingEZRA:
sorry its late in Ireland, I can Barely see the keyboard

Past 5 o clock already!? lol!

BANNED
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eeem...

I don't really understand your problem, but I agree you should stay away from violent games if they have such an impact on you.

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Bored Tomatoe:
Well, there seems to be one flaw with your grammatic mess of a story, and that is that you cannot take aim in VATS on a child...I don't understand, are you saying that you couldn't kill the child for moral reasons or that the game wouldn't let you?

I think he means he could kill the child for moral reasons

Beat Writer
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In real life, I'm probably one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

But in games, I become some sick twisted killer who grins and cackles maniacally while gleefully mowing down anyone and anything I so desire.
Once in Megaton I got caught for pickpocketing and people started shooting at me, the next thing I know everyone in the town is dead, and I don't care.
So I'm like... fuck it... and rig the bomb to blow.
Then out of sheer sadism I wait till the merchants in the town have gone and set up bottle cap mines where they stand and outside the doors of the residents.
A huge smile came across my face when the disembodied legs and arms of a couple who walked outside of their door flew past me as they vanished in a poof of smoke and a cloud of blood.

Does that make me a bad person?

Muckraker
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I dont think you can kill kids anyway, the game doesnt let you. Sad times. Unless they attack you of course :/ Weird like that. I've not actually tried. I once felt bad about killing a guy riding a bicycle on GTA: San Andreas. Then I got over it and now Im filling Behemoths face with missile on a daily basis.

Oddly I have alot of misplaced gaming empathy. :|

Paperboy
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yes it didnt not even with the fatman but as I was pressing the button I stoped I had a nuke and didnt want to kill him thats the point
Sorry for my grammer its half 3 in the morning and im tired

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The Lawn:
In real life, I'm probably one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

But in games, I become some sick twisted killer who grins and cackles maniacally while gleefully mowing down anyone and anything I so desire.
Once in Megaton I got caught for pickpocketing and people started shooting at me, the next thing I know everyone in the town is dead, and I don't care.
So I'm like... fuck it... and rig the bomb to blow.
Then out of sheer sadism I wait till the merchants in the town have gone and set up bottle cap mines where they stand and outside the doors of the residents.
A huge smile came across my face when the disembodied legs and arms of a couple who walked outside of their door flew past me as they vanished in a poof of smoke and a cloud of blood.

Does that make me a bad person?

Could I get that on video?

Press Junketeer
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orannis62:
I'm sorry, but I actually couldn't understand that. Not trying to be a grammar-nazi, but punctuation might help.

Der ganze Hagel Grammer und Zeichensetzung!(All hail Grammer and Punctuation!)

I also felt the same way in Fable after Sacrificing My 15 wives. I didnt like being evil that much. Partly because I was trying to be a good guy. But I Do like to save a game and go bonkers in the town with My MIRV firing in all directions. Just to let some steam out.

In the end Just go around saving a game and kill Moira over and over and over again. That cheers me up.

Muckraker
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Optimus Prime:

orannis62:
I'm sorry, but I actually couldn't understand that. Not trying to be a grammar-nazi, but punctuation might help.

Ahaha, grammar-nazi. I reckon that was Stage 2 of Hitler's master plan. Sorry for straying off topic.

Fallout is great imo, but I felt it was still too short.

Indeed, I didn't know there was no end-game, so I rushed through the main storyline to be painfully butt-raped by the big inmate called Bethesda.

I understand your predicament. There really is no "cure" for this. You either get over it, or you don't. At least you can say you've learned something from a violent game that doesn't involve going postal.

Can you still discuss killing things? Or is it a total lock-down?

Gone Gonzo
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i two; are confused

Gone Gonzo
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I blame biology. Mayhap the part of your brain which may register that shooting personifications of people for fun is a tad demented has just flipped onto the 'on' position.

Gone Gonzo
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I hate to tell you, but you can't kill kids in Fallout 3. Although thanks to a mod (PC version) I can. If only it worked :(

I'm 16, a kid by most peoples definitions, and all this "killing kids is worse then killing adults" seems like a load of crap and rather ageist. I know most people (adults) have the delusion kids are more innocent and therefore better than adults, but I think it's fucking bullshit. There is no other way to describe it. To me an adult life is worth more unless they are already on the last few months of their life, as they have seen and done more and understand life and death better than the average elementary school kid.

As for your problem, I really don't know. You can't kill kids in Fallout 3 and if you really think a virtual kid is too precious to kill anyhow, then I don't know how you got through even the escape from Vault 101, just wait for the ending, even I felt guilt pangs watching Lyons die a horrible death.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Wait, you aren't serious I hope? It's a built in feature to the game, since killing children is frowned upon in most civilized countries. However, the whole game is based upon survival and in order to do this you have to kill things. If you do that quest you will end up saving the town that the kid is from, or you can just go away. Really, just go play some Gears or TF2 or GTA.

Beat Writer
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BreakingEZRA:
Im serious Im stuck playing Banjo Kazooie all week

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Paperboy
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Joined: 7 Jan 2009

No I have No problem talking about brutal murders or even seeing them its just I cant play a game and take a Humanoid life, eg I know there not real. Its jsut wrong in my head like the way if I stand in a shop I wont steal a tv because I know its wrong

Gone Gonzo
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Fixed for everyone who can't understand it. Loosely paraphrased at points:

BreakingEZRA:
OK, so here's my story:
I have never played an RPG game before. Both 1st- and 3rdperson shooters were my thing. I enjoy killing in games. There, I said it; I enjoy killing in games.

My good friend one day asked why I didn't try something with a little plot, and I said why not. I got myself a copy of Fallout 3 and began to play with the intention of killing everything. I blew up Megaton, went to Tenpenny Tower and killed Allister and Burke out of spite, and had just finished the first part of the main quest. Then, on my way to the Museum of Tech, I began finding tapes of people saying good-bye to their family. I was touched; for about 3 seconds that is. Then I was attacked by raiders.

After dispatching them, I continued to the SuperDuper Mart. There was a child near it and he came up and asked for my assistance in finding his father. I turned on VATS and took aim on this child, but couldn't bring myself to fire and so walked away.

Now I can't play any game that requires me to kill. There seems to be a moral block preventing me from killing, even in games. I always wondered why my would say she couldn't play violent video games, but now I understand and can also no longer pull the virtual trigger.

I am only 16 years old. Can anyone think of a way to help me out? I desperately want to play shooters again.

Have you tried remembering it's only a game? Just saying, it's not like you're actually murdering anyone; unless Reboot it to be believed, that is.

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NezumiiroKitsune:
I dont think you can kill kids anyway, the game doesnt let you. Sad times. Unless they attack you of course :/ Weird like that. I've not actually tried. I once felt bad about killing a guy riding a bicycle on GTA: San Andreas. Then I got over it and now Im filling Behemoths face with missile on a daily basis.

Oddly I have alot of misplaced gaming empathy. :|

Wait, you're killing Behemoths every day? I though there were only 5...

Beat Writer
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BreakingEZRA:
No I have No problem talking about brutal murders or even seeing them its just I cant play a game and take a Humanoid life, eg I know there not real. Its jsut wrong in my head like the way if I stand in a shop I wont steal a tv because I know its wrong

Go play GTA4 and drive REALLY REALLY fast into a guy on a motorcycle.
Funniest thing ever.

Paperboy
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Up until that point I was raping locust up the hole in GOW2 with glee for f^^k sake

Muckraker
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BreakingEZRA:
No I have No problem talking about brutal murders or even seeing them its just I cant play a game and take a Humanoid life, eg I know there not real. Its jsut wrong in my head like the way if I stand in a shop I wont steal a tv because I know its wrong

Its a really nice TV... no ones looking. ^_^

Paperboy
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NezumiiroKitsune:

BreakingEZRA:
No I have No problem talking about brutal murders or even seeing them its just I cant play a game and take a Humanoid life, eg I know there not real. Its jsut wrong in my head like the way if I stand in a shop I wont steal a tv because I know its wrong

Its a really nice TV... no ones looking. ^_^

Of course if no ones looking that's totally different lol

Paperboy
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So long as the love of killing doesn't extend past gaming, I think you'll be fine. Might want to cut back on the violence a bit though.

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