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Gone Gonzo
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Do any of you actually install your games to the harddrive? If so, do you see a drastic improvement? Or only a minimal difference? I'm just finally trying out the Mirror's Edge installation because I've heard it works wonders with the loading times. Just wondering if it has taken anyone else as long as me to finally get around to installing one of their games.

Pulitzer Laureate
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there is a HUGE Improvement when you put it on your Hard drive

Gone Gonzo
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Mr.Pandah:
Do any of you actually install your games to the harddrive? If so, do you see a drastic improvement? Or only a minimal difference? I'm just finally trying out the Mirror's Edge installation because I've heard it works wonders with the loading times. Just wondering if it has taken anyone else as long as me to finally get around to installing one of their games.

Short answer...no

Frankly, my HDD doesn'y have enough space on it because I still have the old crusty 10 GIG HDD that came with my 360. It's still got half the space left so I ain't upgrading anytime soon.

Plus, I haven't heard of too much improvment...

Gone Gonzo
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Fallout 3 stopped overheating the machine once I downloaded it but don't download mirror's edge you can complete it in an afternoon.

On the Record
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I can't seem to install them to mine...

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 2 Nov 2008

W/ most games right now it's an improvement w/ the amount of noise your 360 makes. Maybe in the near future developers will make more use of the harddrive installation option.

EDIT: Don't install Halo 3, though.

Gone Gonzo
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I didn't even know you could install them on the hard drive.

Paperboy
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Joined: 12 Jan 2008

I installed 1 game (that's all i had space for) and I noticed no improvements whatsoever...

Copy Clerk
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Joined: 24 Dec 2008

It was a new feature included in the most recent dashboard update, along with avatars.

Muckraker
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Joined: 26 Nov 2008

If you like a quiet XBox, then I suggest you do it.
However, saying that, I only do it with the games I play online frequently (Call of Duty's, SC, L4D etc.)

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 16 Nov 2008

im probably going to install fallout 3, orange box, or Far Cry 2 since i play them so much

and yes it does make a big difference

Gone Gonzo
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All I noticed was a lack of noise, I know there's also supposed to be less heating involved in that but aside from that it's kind of useless.

Copy Clerk
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Joined: 18 Dec 2008

the hard rive download is good for off line games like fallout 3 and assassins creed. for online game it causes lag.

BANNED
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xitel:
I can't seem to install them to mine...

Press Y when the game is highlited on "My Xbox".

Anyway, Fable 2 stopped being so buggy, it was still pretty bad after the patch.

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Muckraker
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xitel:
I can't seem to install them to mine...

You need to have NXE. Make sure auto play is turned off. Put yr game in, then on the game screen, hit the Y button (I think) and you'll get the option to install to harddrive.

I have installed many games, there is an improvement on loading times but the best thing is that you don't get the noise of the DVD constantly spinning in the drive. Most noticable on Fallout 3. I have used up about half of my 120gig Elite hard drive on game installations.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Gameinformer had an article on this on its website that documented the loading times once installed on the hard drive compared to not installed. Sorry I don't have the link but it greatly improved speed and reliability I heard.

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JamminOz07:

xitel:
I can't seem to install them to mine...

You need to have NXE.

There's the problem. Yeah, I refuse to get the NXE until I can go back to using my blades. I've tried it on my brother's 360 and hated it.

BANNED
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Lost Odyssey's load time improves dramatically.
Also, Xitel, if you press the Xbox thing in the center of your controller, a menu pops up that is QUITE similar to the blades.... I suggest taking a look see. I use it myself.

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Infamous Scribbler
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Joined: 19 Nov 2008

sometimes. I'm a 20 gb-er so i don't hve to much room but i have noticed increased speed on several titles and not noticeable improvement otherwise.

Beat Writer
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Joined: 21 Feb 2008

If I had more than 2gb of space left, I might try it. But theres always external hard drives.

Muckraker
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Joined: 4 Sep 2008

I never have. frankly most of the games I own have fairly short loading times and i really dont mind waiting the occasional few second now and again.

Beat Writer
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Joined: 13 Aug 2008

I enjoy 10 second blerbs of TV between load times so not to waste space

(with my method you just keep your mic up for online play and when you hear voices it's go time!)

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 5 Sep 2008

Because I have he launch hdd I can only have one on at a time, but I'm switching them out, there is a major difference.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 29 Dec 2007

I'd only think of it as worth it if I owned two hard drives, whatever the rewards are.

Gone Gonzo
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-Zen-:
I didn't even know you could install them on the hard drive.

Yeah press Y on the disk option and a menu should come up that has the hard drive installation on there.
I tried it on GHWT, no noticeable difference so I removed it

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 6 Jun 2008

xitel:

JamminOz07:

xitel:
I can't seem to install them to mine...

You need to have NXE.

There's the problem. Yeah, I refuse to get the NXE until I can go back to using my blades. I've tried it on my brother's 360 and hated it.

Press the guide button (the large one in the middle of the controller) and you'll have your gorramn blades. Most people hate change and I think that's your problem, not the actual new layout but the change to it.

Gone Gonzo
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jewmaniac:
the hard rive download is good for off line games like fallout 3 and assassins creed. for online game it causes lag.

I cannot see how this could possibly be. HDD access rates are (generally) superior to DVD access rates - the only thing you'll get is decreased load times when the disc is accessed. The side effect of reduced CD access rates can (potentially) be decreased power draw and maybe a (slight) decrease in operating temperature.

I've tried it on a few games and there are only a handful where I see any notable improvement. The key seems to be if the game has either frequent moderate duration load times or long duration load times I see an improvement in load times. Left 4 Dead for example loads new stages substantially faster but this means little really - if my team isn't there there isn't much reason to leave the safe house. Most online games seem to have this same trait - I might get in the game a few seconds quicker but that doesn't really mean anything.

In short - yes there is an improvement but thus far I have not found a game that the improvement offers anything meaningful. Perhaps the Orange Box if you are partaking in the single player offerings or Fallout 3 (which has regular though short duration loads)

Copy Clerk
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Joined: 23 Dec 2008

I don't as I find load times much faster compared to my old xbox or ps2 games. It's interesting to think about the idea of it quieting the system, but I like the others also only have a 20gb 360 so space is important (especially since I download a lot of movies). This was a pretty cool thing though I think for Microsoft to add to the system. If I had a 60gb I think I would do this much more...so possibly in the future if I upgrade. As for the NXE I didn't like it at first, but the more you use it the easier it gets.

Muckraker
Posts: 339
Joined: 3 Jan 2008

I've noticed a pretty good improvement in load times across the board, and it definitely makes the system runs much more quietly. I've got an Elite, so I've basically loaded all of my games except for Halo 3. Makes my gaming more convenient, and no complaints as of yet.

Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 22 Oct 2008

I'm still using one of the old-school HDDs, 12GB. I don't plan on upgrading because it doesn't seem like that big of a difference to me. Unless you can forgo the dsic and not need it in there at all, wich I don't think you can.

Infamous Scribbler
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Joined: 22 Dec 2008

What is this NXE and/or Blades that you silly people are talking about? This conversation is basically indecipherable, and I HAVE a 360 so I should know, right?

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1781
Joined: 29 May 2008

I'm probably going to get the 120gb hard drive for £35 off the net and mod my 120gb so i can install all the games i own onto it, after i take it round a mates to download NXE.

Red Guard
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Joined: 18 Sep 2008

Having the 20 gig drive, I can only have 1 installed at a time (what with all those extras I have installed...). I've installed L4D, and find that I when loading level between safe houses, I'm first in the room. Everyone else is just standing there for about 3 or 4 seconds before moving around.

Plus it's way quieter.

Paperboy
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Joined: 8 Dec 2008

it does work WAY better when it is on the hard drive

Infamous Scribbler
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Joined: 8 Dec 2008

I don't really notice an improvement in loading times, but the Xbox is quieter and should also wear down slower, I assume. If you have plenty of HD space anyway (I have 120 GB), I think those advantages, although small, still make an install to HD worthwhile.

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