This thread is dedicated to those items so well hidden that it you know you would have never found it without the guide...
As a matter of fact you wondered HOW anyone could have in the first place.

The Final Fantasy series is the king of this thread:

FFT:
- Steal EVERYTHING from Elmdor.
- Getting hit with the "Ultima" spell when Ramza is a squire allows him to learn the spell. Who the Hell would want to convert back to a squire at any point? Same with the final summon that I can't remember.
- When fighting Steel Giant No. 8 the most powerful weapon and most powerful shield are in the ground (Use the Move-Find walking ability)...and they have the names of the worst spear and worst shield in the game. You have to check their stats to find out otherwise.

FF7:
- Knights of the Round. Yeah...keep mating birds until you get one that run across the ocean, then go into the hidden corner of the world to enter a cave on an unmapped island. This cave contains a spell which summons King Arthur and his Knights.

The Terrible Shotgun in Fallout 3

all the djinn in Golden Sun and Lost Age.
the 100 gold skulltula's in OOT
the cheeses in Perfect Dark, though i never knew why they were there
the 512 cadeux in ShadowMan (found the 120 dark souls OK but the cadeux were bastards to find)
all the health upgrades/missile upgrades etc in Metroid Prime

Morrowind.
That's all I need to say.

I never look up for these things. NEVER. I'm morally strong and if I really, really can't find it, I accept that.

Oh wait, gaps in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. That was a looooong time ago.

Every Final Fantasy game. In FF 10 pretty much every ultimate weapon for each character was ridiculous. I think 1 of them involved dodging lightning bolts in a certain area and you had to dodge something like 500 in a row without being hit to get a part of 1 person's weapon. There is almost no way to find this out without looking in a guide.

Edit: And in FF 12 where to get a certain weapon you had to not open 10 random chests around the world.

Nivag:
I never look up for these things. NEVER. I'm morally strong and if I really, really can't find it, I accept that.

Oh wait, gaps in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. That was a looooong time ago.

Don't you ever feel bad for missing things?
Like on Blood where you find the secret area with the mimes and the dead duke nukem, now that was epic.

countrysteaksauce:
Morrowind.
That's all I need to say.

I assume you're referring to Eltonbrand, and yeah, gotta back you. *No one* got that without a guide.

- J

rossatdi:
The Terrible Shotgun in Fallout 3

I found that though a brilliant accident fairly early into the game.
god I love that gun.
Most of oblivions quests, because I couldn't be fucked to talk to everyone or go to every fucking back water village.

FF7 - Bone Village.

If you miss any item in the game you can return to this location and pick them up.

FF6 - Wait for Shadow...down to the last three seconds.

Gungnir in FF3. How was I supposed to know that there would be an underwater cave that doesn't show up on the map and has a boss that has an item that only a lvl 70 useless class could get for you?

What. Wait. You mean to say that there are hidden collectables in my games?

A ton of things in Fallout 3, like some Bobbleheads, the Xuanlong Assault Rifle, the Alien Blaster, etc.

countrysteaksauce:
Morrowind.
That's all I need to say.

Played through it the first time with nearly all walkthroughs printed out for me (or at least those from the fractions I could do.

You just gave me the idea to play through Morrowind again, sans any guiding... after my exams, that is. And no more House Redoran/being a good boy anymore. House Hlaalu, Thieves Guild, here I come.

Arsen:

FF7:
- Knights of the Round. Yeah...keep mating birds until you get one that run across the ocean, then go into the hidden corner of the world to enter a cave on an unmapped island. This cave contains a spell which summons King Arthur and his Knights.

I would have to agree and say that at least for me, this is the hardest one of them all!

FF XII was a good example. I bought the guide since it was collectable and game cheap when the game had just been released.
I was determined not to use it though.
One day my friend flicks through it and announces "OH hey the ultimate weapon can only be got if you don't open certain chests." "Which chests?" "Well that one you just opened was one of them."
I hit him with the book.

rossatdi:
The Terrible Shotgun in Fallout 3

I found that easily without a guide.

The Experimental MIRV from Fallout 3. Finding the Keller Family Transcripts is a pain in the balls.

tiredinnuendo:

countrysteaksauce:
Morrowind.
That's all I need to say.

I assume you're referring to Eltonbrand, and yeah, gotta back you. *No one* got that without a guide.

- J

I don't even know how the first people got that. I mean the developers must have told them. I wonder if the 11,171 gold stands for anything?

Arsen:
This thread is dedicated to those items so well hidden that it you know you would have never found it without the guide...
As a matter of fact you wondered HOW anyone could have in the first place.

The Final Fantasy series is the king of this thread:

FF7:
- Knights of the Round. Yeah...keep mating birds until you get one that run across the ocean, then go into the hidden corner of the world to enter a cave on an unmapped island. This cave contains a spell which summons King Arthur and his Knights.

I rember that Island. It was like a year ago and my neighbor and I were dicking around in the plane and saw it. I did not know the birds could do that but good to know since FF7 has been on my list of games to play through again for a while now.

Also I think Morrowind is a good game for this topic to (also on the list)

EDIT
I think that is was his birthday or something countrysteaksauce I know I saw it on UESPWiki

rossatdi:
The Terrible Shotgun in Fallout 3

Ditto. Had me looking for ages, until I got pissed off and killed Smiling Jack and low and behold. XD (I looked up and it just said Evergreen Mill Bazarr)

Bob Saget:
A ton of things in Fallout 3, like some Bobbleheads, the Xuanlong Assault Rifle, the Alien Blaster, etc.

I found the Alien Blaster by accident. You know if you give it to the Outcast Brotherhood they only give you 20 fucking stims for it. I loaded so fast O.o

Anachronox - The Hectacomb configuration for the customizable Mystek unit. One of the most powerful configs in the game.

Suprised no one has yet mentioned the 'I Would Have Been Your Daddy" skull on Halo 3.

Actually, the skull on the Ark level (I think it's Famine) is most easily got by using two players; one stands on the other's ghost to give him a boost. I was proud of the fact that I figured out how to get the skull on your own. You have to wedge a Scorpion tank to use as a brifge (killing all the NPCs so they don't drive off) before fetching a second tank to drive over it and give you a boost.

All 200 GTA IV pigeons warrants a mention, I'd say.

rossatdi:
The Terrible Shotgun in Fallout 3

That is actually one of the few things I found in Fallout 3 without looking it up; just shot it's owners as I was done trading and decided he deserved to die. Imagine my surprise when his corpse had that lovely thing on it

The Zodiac Spear in FFXII. There is no way in hell anyone was supposed to know which 4 chests not to open, seriously.

Ultmia Keyblade, Fenrir Keyblade, the secret Katana in Fable 2, the Fierce Deity Mask in Majora's Mask, the skulls in Halo 3, and most equipment in Dynasty Warriors 3.

Enigmers:
The Zodiac Spear in FFXII. There is no way in hell anyone was supposed to know which 4 chests not to open, seriously.

Yea that was just plain silly. Nobody got that without a guide or someone telling them.

[quote="Arsen" post="9.82930.1143775"]
FFT:
- Steal EVERYTHING from Elmdor.
- Getting hit with the "Ultima" spell when Ramza is a squire allows him to learn the spell. Who the Hell would want to convert back to a squire at any point? Same with the final summon that I can't remember.
- When fighting Steel Giant No. 8 the most powerful weapon and most powerful shield are in the ground (Use the Move-Find walking ability)...and they have the names of the worst spear and worst shield in the game. You have to check their stats to find out otherwise.

It's funny that you mention FFT! I was playing FFT:WOL for the psp just this morning, and I was trying to find every hidden item in the extra dungeon. I thought to myself, "How the heck could anyone find all of these items without gamefaqs?" What a weird coincidence....

Ionami:

rossatdi:
The Terrible Shotgun in Fallout 3

I found that easily without a guide.

In my defence that lovely lady from IGN did a guide to it, the alien blaster and the lincoln repeater before I had the game. I'm happy to let her talk about anything.

I probably never would have found the Alien Blaster in Fallout 3 without a map.

Damien the Pigeon:
[quote="Arsen" post="9.82930.1143775"]
FFT:
- Steal EVERYTHING from Elmdor.
- Getting hit with the "Ultima" spell when Ramza is a squire allows him to learn the spell. Who the Hell would want to convert back to a squire at any point? Same with the final summon that I can't remember.
- When fighting Steel Giant No. 8 the most powerful weapon and most powerful shield are in the ground (Use the Move-Find walking ability)...and they have the names of the worst spear and worst shield in the game. You have to check their stats to find out otherwise.

It's funny that you mention FFT! I was playing FFT:WOL for the psp just this morning, and I was trying to find every hidden item in the extra dungeon. I thought to myself, "How the heck could anyone find all of these items without gamefaqs?" What a weird coincidence....

Elmdor was hard as Hell to steal from. You had to fend off both assassins, attempt to steal from him, and on top of that manage to heal yourself whenever he uses his lethal samurai techniques.

Use this character makeup:

Monk Class
Samurai or Lancer's Jump as secondary
Counter
Teleport

You have won the game. I might actually give it a second run here to make Ramza a magic user. The one thing I LOVED about FFT was that it didn't matter what level you were, the enemies would go up in level with you. The way to succeed was have the proper job points and knowledge of how to overpower the other guys.

I think Golden Sun, wins the medal for the most hidden weapons/armor behind secret bosses. It had like 5 secret bosses in the whole series (1 in the first, 4 in the second) that you either had to fight through a ridiculous number of puzzles and battles to get to or explore a tiny island in the middle of the ocean (where I was certainly happy to have a map ingame).
The kick in the pants is that you can't obtain the most awesome and destructive summon in the game until you find all the Djinn from BOTH games then transfer the ones from the first to the second. That's a hell of alot of backtracking and you STILL need to defeat a boss (likely the hardest in the game - a trend Final Fantasy should never had started).

Not saying that it wasn't a great game, the puzzles were better than most JRPGs but I did have to buy a strategy guide when my natural instincts and the ingame clues weren't enough.

Legendary weapons in Fable 2, sidequests in Zelda, the HM DEFOG in Pokemon Diamond...the list goes on, every game has stuff like that.