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Anonymous Source Posts: 9 Joined: 11 Jan 2009   | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1566 Joined: 8 Oct 2008     |
You think people have no lives because they DON'T play WOW? Congratulations my impressive vocabulary has been rendered useless to this...idiocy. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 84 Joined: 23 Oct 2008     | Well.. you kinda answered your question. A good majority of people who play WoW.. play it for roughly 30+ a week so it really cuts in their social lives. I recently stopped playing WoW because of the community.. a bunch of yous. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 9 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 | I meant people dont like them because people who play them supposedly dont have lives. Thats a load of bull btw, i play about 2 hours a day on weekdays, and about 6 hours at night on weekends |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1202 Joined: 13 Dec 2008     | Ah yes and even though we here at the Escapist believe in no internet slang you still insist on saying "teh". MMORPGS are known to be addictive and 'life-draining'. My closest friend became addicted to WoW and hardly ever leaves his room nowadays. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 857 Joined: 24 Mar 2008   | People don't really bash WoW or MMO's in general. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1850 Joined: 31 Oct 2007     |
And that's all that matters. What does it matter what other people think about your habit? Although saying things like, "I figure its because "people have no lives" or some stupid sh*t like that", isn't exactly helping your cause any. It's their right to have an opinion, too, whether you think it's "stupid shit" or not. Personally, I don't play WoW, because I just don't derive any fun from it. The community seems horrible, too many little kids, I hate grinding, there's nothing to do in the end game, not enough customization, the lore doesn't interest me, and I despise the idea of paying for something every month as it just gives developers too much incentive to run with the "Carrot-on-a-Stick" method. Also, if I played WoW or some other derivative, I wouldn't be playing all of the other amazing video games I've been playing, since all of my game time would be spent with an MMO. Variety is the spice of life, for me. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 111 Joined: 11 May 2008   |
WoW is extremly social really though, your communicating and spending time with other people, sure it's over the internet, but your still doing it. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 9 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 | I wasnt refering to any bashing to any threads, but you can already see people dont like them. |
Muckraker  Posts: 321 Joined: 18 Dec 2008    | This isn't really relevant to all of this but last time I checked you didn't have to censor yourself here at the escapist. Shit. Nope, look at that every thing's fine and the world hasn't exploded. Also swearing isn't really a good way to get your point across, makes you seem more immature than the people that call you on it. Also using Yahtzee as a defense isn't the best idea. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 854 Joined: 17 Sep 2008   | Endless amounts of grind in a never-ending game? I'm out. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 81 Joined: 9 Jan 2009  |
You know... i personally feel it's just a sterotypical excuse? i mean someone hated WoW, then more people followed the one guy, now theres like an anti-WoW cult, WoW isn't a real addictive game, i play i as well, i have a max level raiding character, but i still maintain a social life i still get above 80% aggrigates in school i sill manage to keep my instumental and art skills in form. okay i know that sounded like i was being a pompous prick, i'm sorry. but i was just proving one aspect wrong. And for those who ARE addicted to WoW, it's their personal choice really, it's not like Blizzard hires employees that sneak behinid you and threaten to jam needles in your eyes unless you carry on playing. it's the players own personal choice to play the game, so don't blame a game for the players actions ? Do i see a link here between people blaming WoW for being addictive and the Mothers who blame Manhunt for their nutcase child who just blungeoned someone to death with a hammer? |
Anonymous Source Posts: 9 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 | Ok i didnt mean to anger anyone with the cussing, i just hate hearing that excuse to no end |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1634 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 | Why do people hate WoW you ask? Well IMHO, because it sucks. You will probably say "well look at all the subscriptions" and I say 80% of the player base is 13 and under and that sort of crap appeals to children and some adults. WoW is just crap. |
Paperboy  Posts: 43 Joined: 9 Sep 2008     | Generally, people who put down World of Warcraft players need to put them down. For what reason, I can't say; but what reason does someone have to call the lifestyle of a man a sham, ever, when he's happy with it, and it hurts nobody? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2262 Joined: 24 Nov 2008     | Because it's strange and foreign to them. Also it tends to eat at player's social lives which makes everyone think they're weird. Not to mention that it's popular so it's an easy target to hit. Also, some gamers get board with RPGs and make fun of them. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1634 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 |
Unless your the child of the WoW addicted parents who let her starve. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 104 Joined: 30 Dec 2008   |
so you're saying that you have a a big social life, but you play for 6 hours a nigh on weekend, do you not go out? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1931 Joined: 9 Sep 2008    | A number of people I know who took up WoW went from out-going, social butterflies to sun-fearing cave-dwellers upon picking up that game. They changed into different people. It was impossible to get them to do anything, as they were all coordinating raids with people across the planet in their free time and when they did manage to wrest themselves away from it, all they can talk about is the game. So yes, I've seen what the things do to people, so when I stereotype all MMO players as dirty, unwashed, agoraphobic rejects, I at least have some grounds for it. I have no criticisms for any MMOs though. I've tried a few, thanks to free trial periods, can see how they could be addictive and I congratulate the various MMO publishers for finding a formula that beats Piracy into a bloody pulp while making gobs and gobs of cash, but won't be making a time/financial commitment to any of them myself. Besides, I love the Sun too much. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 9 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 | I dont go out everynight, and i dont play wow everynight. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 884 Joined: 19 Sep 2008   | Why ask for peoples' opinion then berate them for it? You're not gonna last long if you keep it up. |
Paperboy  Posts: 23 Joined: 4 Dec 2008    | A lot of people say that WoW is terrible because blizzard came out saying that they had some new great innovation. But its really nothing new yet WoW players will go on about its the most awesome original thing out there and that every other MMO copied it. But if you look at it the games not that much different from the original Everquest. Other people hate it because it offers no real story and believe it destroyed what story the Warcraft series had. It also doesnt help that the WoW players themselves have a tendency to bash other MMOs that come out. Theres lots of reasons people dont like a lot of games though. So You really should just play what ever game makes you happy. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1407 Joined: 17 Nov 2008 | I'm sure the game is great, it's enough to keep many people sabotaging their own lives while making them pay for it with real money. I don't like MMO's because they eat time and WoW has the gall to charge you for it. Yes I'm aware it costs money to maintain and upgrade the game, but it's just more reasons for me to not play a MMO ever. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4361 Joined: 8 Jan 2009   | Personally I don't like MMORPGs because I believe you should only have to pay once to play a game...but that's just me |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1634 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 |
If all MMO's were free to play you would see a content update once a year maybe. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4361 Joined: 8 Jan 2009 |
True, any word on Guild Wars? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1634 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 |
Well the fact that they are making Guild Wars 2 kinda gives you an idea that they are finished. I hear that SWTOR may be microtransaction based like GW which scares me. I like to earn stuff, not buy it on the offical website. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 100 Joined: 10 Aug 2008   | Apparently you're supposed to say whether you like a game or not before playing it. I doubt I'd be lying if said most (some exceptions) of those who shout "WoW sucks!" never played. Seriously, no end-game content? Most of the fun happens when you reach 80; max out your equipment, raid, battlegrounds, and much more. Yes, I know you can do battlegrounds earlier, but you always end up with a sucky team against a big, strong team... And grinding? World of Warcraft has the least grind I've ever seen in a MMORPG, and yes, I've played a few. (Rose Online, Ragnarök Online, Guild Wars (okay, this one has even less), FlyFF (I'd really love to erase that last one from my mind...))
Yes, because if the newspaper says a family let their child die to play World of Warcraft, some guy killed his friend for selling his sword, and more such stuff, means it happens on a daily base and applies to all World of Warcraft players. By this logic, we can also say that all Muslims are terrorists, and all Catholics have (too) intimate relationships with little boys. I call that generalization. (I'm NOT saying these things about the Muslims and the Catholics are true. Hell, I'm even Catholic (as much as a bucket) myself. I'm just saying there are a few 'incidents', and suddenly people believe it applies to the entire group.) In case you're wondering, no, I never go out on Saturday night. I never did that before I started playing World of Warcraft. I do hangout with friends a few times a week, but never the 'let's go to some place with obnoxious loud music, and drown our liver' kind. We usually go watch a movie, or some cabaret or something. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1634 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 |
Not saying that my post relates to ALL WoW players, just that the game is so addicting that gamers have let their spouces and themselves die from it. |
Paperboy  Posts: 35 Joined: 10 Jan 2009 | I did the 10 day trial of WoW. I experienced all there was to experience, as far as I am concerned. I agree with megapenguinx, that you should only pay for a game once. Hell, I still play Diablo 2- that's close enough to MMO for me. I personally think that for 15 bucks a month can be spent in a more worthwhile way. Like paying for a truck stop blowjob. Sure it doesn't last quite as long, but it tends to be more gratifying than spending all those hours of your life wanking off in a neverending virtual moneypit. Or maybe it isn't. I will never have to find out. I must say that I simply cannot agree with those that rally against WoW, because behind the same curtain are those who lobby against other videogames. The intolerant are intolerable, I am offended that you are offended, and other bumperstickers that express my distaste. Besides, all these people who get addicted to WoW could be addicted to black tar heroin. I think WoW might be better for our economy. Even though the heroin is more fun. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4361 Joined: 8 Jan 2009 |
Micro transactions I think are worse than a monthly subscription. Like I said I like to pay once for my games |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1634 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 |
OR, hope they have a contest, get very lucky and win a lifetime subscription lol. |
Paperboy  Posts: 16 Joined: 10 Jan 2009  | Played it, got a character to 70, got bored of it and quit. Yes, it does take a big chunk out of your life if you want to play the game seriously. Grinding, raiding, more grinding, more raiding with occasional PvP in between. This is the reason I quit, I don't like a game where I have to do boring ass jobs for an hour or two (daily quests, proffesions, etc...) just so I can actually play the bloody game. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1286 Joined: 7 Nov 2007    | MMORPGs have the highest propration of anti-socials who do nothing but obsess over the game. WoW is the largest MMO worldwide. Ergo, WoW is the main target of bashing. If you're comfortable as an MMO player and feel you have a balanced lifestyle, you wouldn't feel the need to get defensive over it. But I'm sure your |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1131 Joined: 3 Dec 2008    |
I wonder what that aspect was supposed to be.
That's an either-or fallacy. That people are responsible for their own choices to consume (X), and should alone be legally responsible, does not absolve the moral responsibility of someone who makes (X), IMO. Would you be proud of creating a new tobacco-like product that has no positive effects other than slight euphoria for the first few doses, and has numerous health risks, when you know through research and statistics that close to 90% of the people who try it will get addicted?
Hopefully not, because you'd be mistaken. The link between violent games and violent behavior is far from conclusive, and it's usually a parent's fault if a child has access to Manhunt in the first place. Fun activity is always a tad mentally addictive. Some people say they are "hooked" to gardening or building model railroads. Games are praised for being "addictive". But there is a difference between "so fun it's addictive" and plain "addictive". The difference is that addiction makes you feel worse when you aren't doing the thing you are addicted to. That, in turn, makes the activity appear more fun. An emotional illusion, so to speak. Having a decent break, which lets the addiction fade and restores your "baseline" state of mind, the activity doesn't feel as good. Sometimes it feels downright awful. Now game designers, especially those of MMORPGs, are not ignorant of addiction. They make a ton of design decisions in a MMORPG that feed addiction, even at the cost of genuine fun. The product doesn't need to be much fun at all when the customer is hooked, right? In my book, that attitude is the same as designing the "new tobacco". |
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I would like to know why people bash wow, or mmos at all
I figure its because "people have no lives" or some stupid sh*t like that
I play wow, and i think it is awesome.
why all teh hate?