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Gone Gonzo Posts: 1227 Joined: 18 Jun 2008 | |
Muckraker Posts: 262 Joined: 27 Jan 2008 | ...Can a nitfit of one man really be called a protest? either way, that was pretty heartless of Nintendo. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 569 Joined: 23 Jun 2008 | Ya, I heard about this yesterday, poor bastard. I remember seeing some youtube videos of the game, and it didn't look half bad. Nothing earth shattering (IMO), but it looked alright. Seems the big N just doesn't care about the indy devs, though. What a said state of affairs. I would've bought his game to support him, and show Nintendo there is a market out there for this kind of game. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1227 Joined: 18 Jun 2008 |
People do 1 man protests all the time, albeit not over games but over trees and other things in nature I know nothing about. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1227 Joined: 18 Jun 2008 |
Nintendo only like games in which you take care of animals or feature italian plumbers or elves. I would also have bought the game just to help the cause. I wonder how many other independant devs are being oppressed. (didn't Rare start with only 2 people?) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1315 Joined: 24 Mar 2008 | That sir, is just complete stupidity considering that they could have just gave him the developer kit, then work out a deal with him that lets Nintendo sell his game mass scale. They could have made a profit even if he got some of the money. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3923 Joined: 15 Aug 2008 | Wow, poor guy...I don't understand why Nintendo couldn't turn a profit with his game. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2464 Joined: 12 Jul 2008 | That's really too bad for him. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1042 Joined: 2 Jul 2008 | Thats terrible. From what I've seen of the game Nintendo could have made a big profit. |
Muckraker Posts: 299 Joined: 19 Sep 2008 | He should just release it on XBLA, it's indie dev friendly. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4634 Joined: 15 Jun 2008 |
Good point. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1341 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 | Nintendo's lost a little respect from me. All he wanted was a development kit. It's not that bad just to give it to him. And then if he got it, there's not saying if he'd get it published or not. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1372 Joined: 17 May 2008 | Aye, I for one, support Indie developers with all my heart and soul. Bob can always work on our beloved PC platform though ;) |
BANNED Posts: 1336 Joined: 21 May 2008 | I bet we can torrent a dev kit... User was banned for: TIME Makes Everybody Lose "The Game". (Permanent) |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 927 Joined: 7 Jan 2008 | I feel sorry for the guy. Also, this is a great example of Nintendo's unwillingness to deviate from their own franchises. |
Beat Writer Posts: 148 Joined: 9 Apr 2008 | the man is an idiot, sure you can argue that it was unfair but the bottom line is that he was obviously just an idiot and he should not have tried to attempt this protest. his last line calling nintendo a "heartless corporation" only solidifies the in my mind. |
Beat Writer Posts: 185 Joined: 5 May 2008 | Nintendo have a history of shafting studios never mind indies - and to be a bit blunt if you're going to spend five years making a game shouldn't you sort out a platform dev kit to start with? |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 925 Joined: 14 Feb 2008 |
this |
BANNED Posts: 2513 Joined: 3 Dec 2008 | Seeing as Nintendo is just about exuding money from every orifice and has built a moat out of cash around their building made of gold bricks I think they can spare a dev kit for an indy developer. User was banned for: The artist in thee. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1295 Joined: 19 Dec 2008 | 1. Nintendo did come out of this looking like a heartless bastard who drowns kittens and puppies. 2. The man in question was an idiot. From the sound of it, he was obsessed, which is never a good thing. And then there's the matter of him investing 5 years without covering all his bases. Poor planning and lack of preparation. The guy should have secured all required resources in advance. If he's making it up as he goes along then he doesn't get to throw a tantrum just because something doesn't go his way. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1844 Joined: 7 Jul 2008 | ...so Nintendo is evil because they didn't give an insane superfan a dev kit when that's what you should've tried to get first? sure, whatever. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 442 Joined: 3 Jan 2009 | Wow I feel genuinly bad for this man. Can somebody explain whats in the Dev kit? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1315 Joined: 24 Mar 2008 |
You say obsessive, I say average fanboy. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 857 Joined: 24 Mar 2008 | This also lead to him faking his death on line. I am inclined to believe this gent is not all there. I went through his blog, he decided to stage this process after a delay in his application of a couple of months. Seriously, an 8 week delay and he through a shit fit. He embodies a very scary type of fanboy naivete and behaviour. Fact is, delays in applications like this are common, Nintendo has a lot to consider before they distribute their SDK's. Security is a big issue, they do not want their processes and technology leaked to the public, and distributing the SDK to an individual is the first step in letting that happen. I'm letting all you potential studio establishers out there know that it is not as simple as renting office space, filling out a form and waiting for a reply. Bob seemed to think it was that simple, and after five years of work, to flip out over a two month delay is odd. We're not getting the whole story on this one. Edit: after just reviewing his site, I am less impressed, I am getting the impression this is just a viral ad campaign by bob. 100 days that ends with 30 that ends with police involvement the spins into a villainous yet interesting to media "insane" persona that apparently leads to the "bob's game tournament" at the end of 100 days... excuse me 70. I stand by my assessment of fanboy naivete but it is obviously a different variety than the driven to temper tamper variety. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 727 Joined: 26 Jun 2008 | Doesn't it cost most game companies several thousand dollars to get a Development Kit? Why would this guy think they'd just send him one? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4150 Joined: 6 Sep 2008 | His failure gives me pleasure AND sustinance. Yes, let me drink the sweet milk of your tears, foolish man. He's a batshit crazy Fanboy who needs to relax. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 857 Joined: 24 Mar 2008 |
As I understand it, he is not asking for them to send him the kit for free. He's adhering to all of Nintendo's Developer requirements and is willing to sign the $5000.00 cheque (a DS SDK is more elaborate than a DVD however) |
Muckraker Posts: 286 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 | Ok I'm sorry because I'm about to sound completly heartless... |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 811 Joined: 28 Sep 2008 | Off topic, but what is his game about? It just looked like a normal, boring life simulator. Is there some kind of ulterior motive in the game or do you just live another life in a cloud of ones and zeros? |
Copy Clerk Posts: 65 Joined: 18 Jun 2008 | I can't help but get the feeling that Bob's game is either some kind of viral marketing, or some kind of troll. At first it seemed like he was an ego maniac indie developer, but as things went on it just seemed to get so over the top, to the point where I can't take it serious. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1422 Joined: 7 Jun 2008 |
1. The 360 can't play a game designed for a DS, assuming it is stylus heavy controls. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 781 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 | I think it is pretty outright for lack of a better word... completely f***ing stupid of him to expect such a thing. People are right, if it was a game 5 years in the making and if he was so clearly obsessed with it why in god's name did he not get a developer kit in the first place. I'm not completely sure what it is to be honest, but if it's so important wouldn't it have been high on his priority list? This story really does sound like a viral marketing campaign, for someone with no internet, phone or TV access how did he blog his events? Did he bother looking for the developer's kit on the internet? It sounds a bit shifty to me. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1078 Joined: 25 May 2008 |
I really don't think it's that easy to get a dev kit off the internet. I'm pretty sure that if something like that costs $5000,- Nintendo wouldn't just let it leak onto the internet. I have to admit his actions weren't thought through well enough and maybe he should have asked for the dev kit first, but if you look at how much the thing costs, maybe he just wanted to be sure he could actually finish the game up to the point where he would need the dev kit. It would've been a waste of money if he got it first and then got stuck with the development. Or maybe I'm just completely wrong because it seems he's stuck now so it doesn't make any real difference. |
Beat Writer Posts: 160 Joined: 1 Jan 2009 | If I was the guy, I'd finish the damn thing and sell $5 downloads of it or people with the DS cards (can't think of what they're called at the moment). |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 857 Joined: 24 Mar 2008 |
Apparently it is comparable to traditional tile RPG adventures, there are (supposedly) enemy's and bosses and involved story game-play, but bob does not want to spoil the surprise because that's the way true believers feel. I agree it looks pretty dull with what we have seen so far. More evidence this is more a viral gag than anything else.
1. True, but given that it is a classically designed tile based game programmed in C, it should take to dpad / joystick control systems with little programming changes. Xbox has similar requirements to Nintendo for acquiring their SDK (which stands for Software Development Kit for those who may be wondering) so he would have to jump through similar hoops, but as has been pointed out, XBLA is much more politically open to ideas like bob's. Ironically, having the title available for XBLA would likely assure approval for a DS port. Here's a question for y'all to consider as well, There are multiple DS approved publishers that both have access to DS SDK's that bob could work on to port his game to the official platform, their assurance of publication is likely enough of a voucher for Nintendo as well. I'm so reminded of lonely girl. |
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One month ago, Bob Pelloni started a protest which was to last 100 days. This was after Nintendo denied him a Nintendo DS development kit for his 5 years in the making, Bob's Game.
Mr Pelloni created this 5 year project on his own and spent more than 15,000 hours on his DS RPG. Bob stayed in his appartment with no TV, no internet, no radio and no phone. With only a once a week visit from a friend to bring him some food.
That protest ended yesterday when Mr Pelloni claimed to have an agonizing headache making it unbareable to go on. He then proceeded to rant about Nintendo calling them a "heartless corporation, only interested in the biggest profits" he concluded by saying "I really wanted to finish this game,".
Personally, I think it's a shame that Nintendo couldn't just send him a dev kit so he could finish a game he's been developing for 5 years.