JonTron insults Platstation Now, Tumblr has a shit fit *UPDATE*

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DirgeNovak:

But that doesn't make Ben Huber right. Being offended by words is a choice. You decide to read into it. You decide that calling PS Now retarded is an insult to all mentally handicapped people. I was strongly reminded of this scene from
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could I use that as a free pass should I go into a special needs school and throw that word around or throw the N word around in a black comunity?

BinDipper:

Oh yeah? Well did you have a life from 2004 to 2007? And then for a little bit in 2011?

Yeah, I thought so.

I was wanking off to borderline-illegal internet porn while you still had friends and family that cared about you.

Okay, I think I just scared the neighbours with how loud I laughed. Well,scared them more than usual. I mean, when you're building Skynet in your basement, they're bound to be a little afraid.

Spot1990:
Don't forget the rape threats. They always get thrown around whenever people "disagree" with a man on the internet. It has nothing to do with a vile attitude toward women it's that these people genuinely believe rape to be an appropriate way to end a discussion. I mean look at Dan from No Right Answers article about antisemitism, the comments section was just chock full of rape threats.

I was talking this guy specifically. I don't remember him threatening to rape her. However, you bring up another point. When someone makes a rape or death threat, it's "lolitstheinternet," usually followed by "what can you do?" or "it doesn't mean anything." Even when the Depression Quest dev got doxed, there wasn't this kind of outrage, and she actually was harassed. And threatened.

I suppose I shouldn't feel let down that the internet thrives on double standards, but I am.

Vault101:

could I use that as a free pass should I go into a special needs school and throw that word around or throw the N word around in a black comunity?

Using the schoolyard logic of "tee hee, I could mean anything when I call you retarded," apparently.

This logic rarely works off of the internet, though. Proceed with caution.

Vault101:

DirgeNovak:

But that doesn't make Ben Huber right. Being offended by words is a choice. You decide to read into it. You decide that calling PS Now retarded is an insult to all mentally handicapped people. I was strongly reminded of this scene from
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could I use that as a free pass should I go into a special needs school and throw that word around or throw the N word around in a black comunity?

Nice cherry-picking here. How about reading the rest of my argument:

DirgeNovak:
I can understand black people not wanting non-blacks saying nigger; that word refers to them. Trying to ban words from common parlance because, quote, "it could hurt people" is hypocritical. You're not doing it for them, you're doing it for yourself.

And to answer your question, yeah, sure, whatever floats your boat. But unlike retarded, nigger only has one meaning, and more importantly, you'd be calling black people niggers. When did JonTron call mentally handicapped people retarded? When did video game streaming services achieve personhood?

Wow.
I love PlayStation - I was never a fan of Microsoft or (God forbid) Nintendo, ever since Sega died I was team Sony, but PS Now IS retarded.

DirgeNovak:

And to answer your question, yeah, sure, whatever floats your boat. But unlike retarded, nigger only has one meaning, and more importantly, you'd be calling black people niggers. When did JonTron call mentally handicapped people retarded? When did video game streaming services achieve personhood?

he was calling it stupid, rediculous dumb and incompetant and using a word that was applied to the disabled to do it

its like calling somone a fag as a general insult

its like somone saying "I don't care what color somone is..anyone can be a n****" (which yes has been said) <- it doesn't matter the person isn't using it as a race specific insult, their using a word that refers to black people as an insult

Vault101:
he was calling it stupid, rediculous dumb and incompetant and using a word that was applied to the disabled to do it

It's applied to the disabled to you because you're fixating on the word. I highly doubt he was thinking of a disabled person when he wrote it. Find me an insult where nigger isn't used as a reference to blacks and then we'll talk.

its like calling somone a fag as a general insult

It isn't, because, again, a thing is not a person.

its like somone saying "I don't care what color somone is..anyone can be a n****" (which yes has been said) <- it doesn't matter the person isn't using it as a race specific insult, their using a word that refers to black people as an insult

See above.

The moment I saw we have to do with someone who apparently takes what Jon says seriously, I understood that we are dealing not with someone retarded but with an oversensitive moron. Man, people should really get around to doing some digging as to who that person isbefore posting on someone's twitter.

But what am I saying ? It is easier to simply post and be done with it, right ? Although, the same could be said about Jon's statement afterward. It may had been a little out of context and not the best argument to use but that's the thing, I know Jon. I can safely bet that more than half of the people commenting on his twitter and tumblr do not.

DirgeNovak:

It's applied to the disabled to you because you're fixating on the word. I highly doubt he was thinking of a disabled person when he wrote it. Find me an insult where nigger isn't used as a reference to blacks and then we'll talk.
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no Jon wasn't specifically refering to disabled people but he was usuing a word asssiated with them to describe something

just like if he used the N-word to describe PS whatever instead

really the "its YOUR fault if your offened" attitude annoys me more than the use of the word itself

Everyone was wrong. The guy who responded to it was being a douché, Jon (responding to him) was being a douché, everyone deciding to blow up about it is being a douché and JonTrons excuse of "think of the Gazans!" is bullshit.

BiscuitWheels:
Who the fuck is JonTron? If he's just another voice on the internet, fuck him. He's a fart in a wind tunnel, no matter how loud or much he stinks he doesn't really matter.

If you knew who he was you'd know he's a comedian who almost couldn't be any less serious. Of course that would require you to actually google his name before making an evaluation of him (by comparing him to flatulance). But more to the point: the reason your comment is on page NINE of this thread is because this incident is being used as a call to arms for the Tumblr and anti-PC crowds to take a stance on the R-word and political correctness in general. Jontron is just the Archduke Franz Ferdinand of the issue, to use a timely analogy. The war isn't about him, he was just the spark that was needed to set off the mounting tension.

Vigormortis:

Olas:
I could understand why mentally handicapped people would find it insulting to be compared to Playstation Now....

I've no interest in getting involved in this "controversy", seeing as I have a great distaste for those at it's core, however I just HAD to thank you for this line.

Whether intentional or not, you've made me laugh so suddenly that I just about spit my drink out onto my keyboard.

Thank you, good sir.

It was intentional, and your welcome.

The joke was hiding in plain sight, really. Guy calls PlayStation Now retarded, everybody gets upset that he's offending retards. The fact that nobody else seems to have realized it is testament to how depressingly austere we're all being.

Vault101:

DirgeNovak:

It's applied to the disabled to you because you're fixating on the word. I highly doubt he was thinking of a disabled person when he wrote it. Find me an insult where nigger isn't used as a reference to blacks and then we'll talk.
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no Jon wasn't specifically refering to disabled people but he was usuing a word asssiated with them to describe something

just like if he used the N-word to describe PS whatever instead

really the "its YOUR fault if your offended" attitude annoys me more than the use of the word itself

Then thats your problem. You won't even look at context first. any person with power can move goalposts to suddenly decide all kinds of words offend them and should be stricken from general language. Thats fucked up. The world at large can not generalize their speech to one's context of what offends them. There are different institutions and social groups where words can be used abstractly or even as terms of endearment. Do users get banned on most forums for referring to products as retarded?

You make decision how yourself would like to regarded in groups you're a part of. But you can't world police or nanny other's mouths for presumed offense that you are unable to empirically measure on a universal scale.

Or find hundreds of thousands of handicapped people who are genuinely pissed about JonTron's comments. If a fan genuinely doesn't like it, they can put in the effort, or in some cases get a family member or friend to send a PM to him by themselves. Why claim offense for them if they haven't indicated that need.

http://www.220.ro/funny/Penn-Teller-Bullshit-Profainity/bOSnUR756k/

cypher-raige:

omega 616:
Breaking News, Totalbiscuit is a totaltwat.

Please don't use that word. It is a derogatory term for a female genitalia and it reinforces harmful patriarchal stereotypes of women.

No, it doesn't. It's a derogatory word for a person. It doesn't reinforce anything, other than that TB is twat. Stop reading into things.

It's a very common insult in the UK and only half the time used to describe anything to do with a womans body. It has nothing to do with patriarchal system, you're just making a mole hill into a mountain. Glass ceilings and difference in pay are part of a patriarchal system, the use of a word isn't!

Vault101:

DirgeNovak:

And to answer your question, yeah, sure, whatever floats your boat. But unlike retarded, nigger only has one meaning, and more importantly, you'd be calling black people niggers. When did JonTron call mentally handicapped people retarded? When did video game streaming services achieve personhood?

he was calling it stupid, rediculous dumb and incompetant and using a word that was applied to the disabled to do it

its like calling somone a fag as a general insult

its like somone saying "I don't care what color somone is..anyone can be a n****" (which yes has been said) <- it doesn't matter the person isn't using it as a race specific insult, their using a word that refers to black people as an insult

Depends on who it comes from and how it's said I guess. Plenty of black people call each other " Nigga" as mostly a term of endearment. Many of my female friends call their own friends slut or bitch, even if they are just playing.

Words change meanings over time.

omega 616:

cypher-raige:

omega 616:
Breaking News, Totalbiscuit is a totaltwat.

Please don't use that word. It is a derogatory term for a female genitalia and it reinforces harmful patriarchal stereotypes of women.

No, it doesn't. It's a derogatory word for a person. It doesn't reinforce anything, other than that TB is twat. Stop reading into things.

It's a very common insult in the UK and only half the time used to describe anything to do with a womans body. It has nothing to do with patriarchal system, you're just making a mole hill into a mountain. Glass ceilings and difference in pay are part of a patriarchal system, the use of a word isn't!

Woosh!

I find it funny that you complain about the word "retard" then call someone a "twat".
Especially since the social justice types find that word equally offensive.

cypher-raige:

omega 616:

cypher-raige:

Please don't use that word. It is a derogatory term for a female genitalia and it reinforces harmful patriarchal stereotypes of women.

No, it doesn't. It's a derogatory word for a person. It doesn't reinforce anything, other than that TB is twat. Stop reading into things.

It's a very common insult in the UK and only half the time used to describe anything to do with a womans body. It has nothing to do with patriarchal system, you're just making a mole hill into a mountain. Glass ceilings and difference in pay are part of a patriarchal system, the use of a word isn't!

Woosh!

I find it funny that you complain about the word "retard" then call someone a "twat".
Especially since the social justice types find that word equally offensive.

Woosh all you like, retard is a disability that you're comparing somebody to ... twat is somebody being extremely foolish.

One is causing actual offense, the other pisses off over sensitive people.

You are a social justice type, "don't use a word that also describes a womans bits 'cos it oppresses them", which it doesn't.

Captcha is "captcha in the rye" haha

Vault101:

DirgeNovak:

It's applied to the disabled to you because you're fixating on the word. I highly doubt he was thinking of a disabled person when he wrote it. Find me an insult where nigger isn't used as a reference to blacks and then we'll talk.
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no Jon wasn't specifically refering to disabled people but he was usuing a word asssiated with them to describe something

just like if he used the N-word to describe PS whatever instead

really the "its YOUR fault if your offened" attitude annoys me more than the use of the word itself

Okay now you're just repeating the exact same thing verbatim with no argument. I think we're done. Have a nice day.

omega 616:

cypher-raige:

omega 616:

No, it doesn't. It's a derogatory word for a person. It doesn't reinforce anything, other than that TB is twat. Stop reading into things.

It's a very common insult in the UK and only half the time used to describe anything to do with a womans body. It has nothing to do with patriarchal system, you're just making a mole hill into a mountain. Glass ceilings and difference in pay are part of a patriarchal system, the use of a word isn't!

Woosh!

I find it funny that you complain about the word "retard" then call someone a "twat".
Especially since the social justice types find that word equally offensive.

Woosh all you like, retard is a disability that you're comparing somebody to ... twat is somebody being extremely foolish.

One is causing actual offense, the other pisses off over sensitive people.

You are a social justice type, "don't use a word that also describes a womans bits 'cos it oppresses them", which it doesn't.

Captcha is "captcha in the rye" haha

Twat is slang for a vagina... so why are you specifically going for dictionary definition of retarded which even then has more than just a definition of the handicapped, and taking up a defense of certain words have different contexts when used as insults in common parlance. Your just shooting yourself in the foot. Language is all about context, and to ignore it one circumstance because it fits your sensibilities and to use it as a defense in another instance is just contradictory.

To retard something is to literally hold it back. If the costs associated with Playstation Now aren't worth the rewards, then it is holding it back. Maybe if JonTron had replied with that, rather than schoolyard BS, he'd have been received better.

th3dark3rsh33p:

omega 616:

cypher-raige:

Woosh!

I find it funny that you complain about the word "retard" then call someone a "twat".
Especially since the social justice types find that word equally offensive.

Woosh all you like, retard is a disability that you're comparing somebody to ... twat is somebody being extremely foolish.

One is causing actual offense, the other pisses off over sensitive people.

You are a social justice type, "don't use a word that also describes a womans bits 'cos it oppresses them", which it doesn't.

Captcha is "captcha in the rye" haha

Twat is slang for a vagina... so why are you specifically going for dictionary definition of retarded which even then has more than just a definition of the handicapped, and taking up a defense of certain words have different contexts when used as insults in common parlance. Your just shooting yourself in the foot. Language is all about context, and to ignore it one circumstance because it fits your sensibilities and to use it as a defense in another instance is just contradictory.

The difference is twat can be slang for vagina but it can also be used (as I proved in the wiki link) that it can also be a more intense form of twit.

Since retarded has been used to describe people with disabilities, it's VERY rare you hear anything called the technical, dictionary definition of retarded. The only mechanical usage I can think of is "retard the ignition".

Then there is, calling somebody a twat is giving an opinion about him in the worse way possible but calling somebody retarded is saying that person is held back in the most offensive way possible, which in a massive amount of cases is just a lie.

You never a get a diagnoses of "twat" but you do get a diagnoses of downs syndrome, which is what is often called retarded. One is subjective statement and the other is an offensive objective statement.

Olas:

It was intentional, and your welcome.

The joke was hiding in plain sight, really. Guy calls PlayStation Now retarded, everybody gets upset that he's offending retards. The fact that nobody else seems to have realized it is testament to how depressingly austere we're all being.

Oh, I saw the potential for the joke. But for some reason reading it in your post actually made me audibly laugh.

And yesterday I really needed a laugh.

People listen to JonTron? News to me.

th3dark3rsh33p:

I just love the puritanical nature of these kinds of arguments. You have to be pretty thin skinned if you were offended by a relatively benign use of the word retarded. The second statement was kind of douchy but to be fair the guy asking him -publicly- to not use the word retard however "well mannered" it might have been was being equally douchy. If he really had a serious issue he should have done the mature thing and sent him a private message about it, instead being a self important prick and giving someone a public scolding for a minor incident.

You don't joke about people being stupid? I thought that was kind of the core of humor. Making fun of stupid, illogical and horrible things to kind of cope with it all. Laughing off the pain of and anxiety of life and how clueless humans are in the face of it. A man falls down a manhole and dies. That's comedy, that's a joke, and when delivered correctly, it's fucking hilarious. If that offends you, so what? Who cares what offends you or a subset of people. Certainly not some shmuck across the country who makes a living trying and succeeding to make people laugh, who until now had used the word retarded time and time again in his comedy with no one caring. Anyone who thinks they should be exempt from being offended, or have their ego poked fun of shouldn't be anywhere near comedy or comedians because your going to find yourself quickly getting angry at being reminded how little the world or just about anyone on it truly cares about your precious feelings. At the end of the day, your feelings don't count for much and people shouldn't have to change the way they live to accommodate elses feelings.

Oh so we have to be oh so careful with people saying nasty things now? I suppose if he was calling everyone a nigger everyone should ever so quietly sent him a pm saying it wasn't cool, because you know nobody has a spine apparently.
You talk of thin skin, he talks of him being sick of people taking offence to things...yet here you are telling me a very polite person should have sent him a PM to save him embarrassment, and he...well his little crying on the issue should tell you everything.

Instead of using nigger again because that is the obvious and not as good lets use Asians instead. Go call a gang of Asians Pakis and see how it goes, but oh its the name of their people its not offensive they have no right to take offence blah blah blah. There are standards to go by and while you may preach this here on the Internet in reality I doubt you'd much want to have your brain bounced around your skull by the groups you seem to wish to purposely offend.

I've taken a stand against PC myself of that there is no question, but to target the mentally disabled, to so casually call someone retarded whilst hiding behind jokes, and a group of people who merely wish to offend who they like...that is simply low, and even I have standards.

omega 616:

th3dark3rsh33p:

omega 616:

Woosh all you like, retard is a disability that you're comparing somebody to ... twat is somebody being extremely foolish.

One is causing actual offense, the other pisses off over sensitive people.

You are a social justice type, "don't use a word that also describes a womans bits 'cos it oppresses them", which it doesn't.

Captcha is "captcha in the rye" haha

Twat is slang for a vagina... so why are you specifically going for dictionary definition of retarded which even then has more than just a definition of the handicapped, and taking up a defense of certain words have different contexts when used as insults in common parlance. Your just shooting yourself in the foot. Language is all about context, and to ignore it one circumstance because it fits your sensibilities and to use it as a defense in another instance is just contradictory.

The difference is twat can be slang for vagina but it can also be used (as I proved in the wiki link) that it can also be a more intense form of twit.

Since retarded has been used to describe people with disabilities, it's VERY rare you hear anything called the technical, dictionary definition of retarded. The only mechanical usage I can think of is "retard the ignition".

Then there is, calling somebody a twat is giving an opinion about him in the worse way possible but calling somebody retarded is saying that person is held back in the most offensive way possible, which in a massive amount of cases is just a lie.

You never a get a diagnoses of "twat" but you do get a diagnoses of downs syndrome, which is what is often called retarded. One is subjective statement and the other is an offensive objective statement.

Yes you get diagnosed with down syndrome, and various other disorders. These days no one seriously calls them retarded anymore. People aren't classed under the quality of retarded anymore on the basis of mental handicap. They say the person is mentally or physically handicapped in as a general designation for that kind of thing, or it gets called by the specific name. Just about no one uses retarded in common parlance today to refer to actual disabled people unless they're attempting to be cruel and bully a specific person or group. Otherwise the term falls under it's very literal meaning of "held back" or it falls under common slang of exceedingly foolish or stupid. The definition has changed. Its use in common english is not meant to disparage the mentally handicapped anymore than calling someone a halfwit or a dumbass is. To cling to older definitions of words for the sake of limiting their future use with different definition is ignoring a huge aspect of language itself.

Rozalia1:

th3dark3rsh33p:

I just love the puritanical nature of these kinds of arguments. You have to be pretty thin skinned if you were offended by a relatively benign use of the word retarded. The second statement was kind of douchy but to be fair the guy asking him -publicly- to not use the word retard however "well mannered" it might have been was being equally douchy. If he really had a serious issue he should have done the mature thing and sent him a private message about it, instead being a self important prick and giving someone a public scolding for a minor incident.

You don't joke about people being stupid? I thought that was kind of the core of humor. Making fun of stupid, illogical and horrible things to kind of cope with it all. Laughing off the pain of and anxiety of life and how clueless humans are in the face of it. A man falls down a manhole and dies. That's comedy, that's a joke, and when delivered correctly, it's fucking hilarious. If that offends you, so what? Who cares what offends you or a subset of people. Certainly not some shmuck across the country who makes a living trying and succeeding to make people laugh, who until now had used the word retarded time and time again in his comedy with no one caring. Anyone who thinks they should be exempt from being offended, or have their ego poked fun of shouldn't be anywhere near comedy or comedians because your going to find yourself quickly getting angry at being reminded how little the world or just about anyone on it truly cares about your precious feelings. At the end of the day, your feelings don't count for much and people shouldn't have to change the way they live to accommodate elses feelings.

Oh so we have to be oh so careful with people saying nasty things now? I suppose if he was calling everyone a nigger everyone should ever so quietly sent him a pm saying it wasn't cool, because you know nobody has a spine apparently.
You talk of thin skin, he talks of him being sick of people taking offence to things...yet here you are telling me a very polite person should have sent him a PM to save him embarrassment, and he...well his little crying on the issue should tell you everything.

Instead of using nigger again because that is the obvious and not as good lets use Asians instead. Go call a gang of Asians Pakis and see how it goes, but oh its the name of their people its not offensive they have no right to take offence blah blah blah. There are standards to go by and while you may preach this here on the Internet in reality I doubt you'd much want to have your brain bounced around your skull by the groups you seem to wish to purposely offend.

I've taken a stand against PC myself of that there is no question, but to target the mentally disabled, to so casually call someone retarded whilst hiding behind jokes, and a group of people who merely wish to offend who they like...that is simply low, and even I have standards.

There's a difference between racial slurs, and using the word retarded. Just like calling someone a half wit isn't targeting the mentally handicapped neither is using retarded. Stupid, dumbass, shithead, dunce, retard, halfwit, simple minded, thick, imbecile etc etc, have all in the past been used to make fun of people with mental handicaps, some of them were also classifications for the mentally handicapped. Retarded isn't special. It's just the most recent definition since mentally handicapped was adopted. Calling someone who clearly isn't mentally handicapped a retard is just calling them stupid. Calling someone mentally handicapped a retard in an unprovoked manner for laughs is just mean.

The use of the word retarded or retard doesn't disparage the mentally handicapped at all. It's meaning has changed in large part and it has more to do with context than anything else. The lack of a universal quality in the context of racial slurs is what makes them kind of dickish to use in common speech. There are few circumstances where the word nigger or chink mean anything other than being a derogatory word for africans and asians. Nigger is kind of getting there, but it's got a long way to go before it starts being commonly accepted as another meaning.

omega 616:

cypher-raige:

omega 616:

No, it doesn't. It's a derogatory word for a person. It doesn't reinforce anything, other than that TB is twat. Stop reading into things.

It's a very common insult in the UK and only half the time used to describe anything to do with a womans body. It has nothing to do with patriarchal system, you're just making a mole hill into a mountain. Glass ceilings and difference in pay are part of a patriarchal system, the use of a word isn't!

Woosh!

I find it funny that you complain about the word "retard" then call someone a "twat".
Especially since the social justice types find that word equally offensive.

Woosh all you like, retard is a disability that you're comparing somebody to ... twat is somebody being extremely foolish.

One is causing actual offense, the other pisses off over sensitive people.

You are a social justice type, "don't use a word that also describes a womans bits 'cos it oppresses them", which it doesn't.

Captcha is "captcha in the rye" haha

Woosh = the joke went over your head.
I was joking about twat being offensive.
The Jontron controversy would be no different if he said twat. He would still be heckled by the same people.

The internet is just one huge tabloid magazine and I really don't get what the big issue is most of the time. Can't say I don't sympathize with the guy though, I talk tons of horrible shit with my friends while playing videogames and I can't even imagine how it would be like if I was in the spotlight while doing so.

I don't think this guy hates disabled people or something, probably just had a bad day and is now with his back against the wall.

Vault101:

DirgeNovak:

But that doesn't make Ben Huber right. Being offended by words is a choice. You decide to read into it. You decide that calling PS Now retarded is an insult to all mentally handicapped people. I was strongly reminded of this scene from
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could I use that as a free pass should I go into a special needs school and throw that word around or throw the N word around in a black comunity?

did jontron do that?

no, context and intent, within the context of his tweet jon was describing the playstation now as a stupid service and his intent was never to insult handicapped people

anybody who feels offended by this is LOOKING to get offended

DirgeNovak:

Vault101:

DirgeNovak:

But that doesn't make Ben Huber right. Being offended by words is a choice. You decide to read into it. You decide that calling PS Now retarded is an insult to all mentally handicapped people. I was strongly reminded of this scene from
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could I use that as a free pass should I go into a special needs school and throw that word around or throw the N word around in a black comunity?

Nice cherry-picking here. How about reading the rest of my argument:

DirgeNovak:
I can understand black people not wanting non-blacks saying nigger; that word refers to them. Trying to ban words from common parlance because, quote, "it could hurt people" is hypocritical. You're not doing it for them, you're doing it for yourself.

And to answer your question, yeah, sure, whatever floats your boat. But unlike retarded, nigger only has one meaning, and more importantly, you'd be calling black people niggers. When did JonTron call mentally handicapped people retarded? When did video game streaming services achieve personhood?

nobody stands for the rights of pieces of software, yet another fantastic worthwhile cause tumblr could get behind right there

What's the difference between this stuff and the sort of things you hear on entertainment talk shows?
Someone said something, someone got angry, and now we're helping to blow it up by posting about it.
Just let Youtubers get angry at eachother.

Wasn't there a post recently asking why all the hate against tumblr. This this right here is why all the hate against tumblr. It's a breeding ground for bullies who have learned to pretend to take the high ground. As someone with developmental disabilities don't speak for me not now not ever. When masses of people continuously pick on one person your acts are far more vile then the people you complain about.Just a bunch of bullies using what's considered appropriate to disguise their motives just despicable.

"Please don't be rude."

Yeah. Pretty heinous stuff there.

Ah yes, the good old "I'm being a dick for the sake of comedy, not because I'm actually a dick! Can't you tell the difference?"

The age-old excuse for dicks everywhere.

Vault101:

he was calling it stupid, rediculous dumb and incompetant and using a word that was applied to the disabled to do it

its like calling somone a fag as a general insult

its like somone saying "I don't care what color somone is..anyone can be a n****" (which yes has been said) <- it doesn't matter the person isn't using it as a race specific insult, their using a word that refers to black people as an insult

technically my old self when i was out in first year high school (essentially going from an environment which accommodated my dyslexia to an environment that had nothing) would class me as retarded

hell i got called lazy in class by the teacher, most likely worse when i wasn't around

even now i still struggle because my dyslexia is mainly towards short term memory the most i can remember is 3 - 4 words, without disruption, long durations need repetition or i'll lose track

now its not exactly that i would forget everything in seconds but the easiest way to describe it be talking with someone and 2 - 3 sentence i'd start forgetting what was originally said, in terms of recalling i would say its like having blackouts

anyway getting on point calling someone retarded because they have mental issues would be wrong but it would be even worse if you assumed that people with mental illness are retarded, which quite frankly seems to be your point

your argument is that like the N word retarded is what refers to people of mental disabilities were the N word is an insult to black people (with good reason)

Ok guys, here's how it goes:

Person A: something something retarded/n-word/fag/whatever
Person B: Hey, man, I know you didn't mean it, but that word is kind of hurtful. Do you think you could use another?
Person A: My bad, I didn't realize. The English language is full of all sorts of words, so your request is a very reasonable one. There are all sorts of things I could say instead of what I said.

or

Person A: I don't believe that word is offensive. However, I believe other people when they say that it is offensive, and I'd like to go through life hurting as few people as possible. I recognize that other people have different feelings from me.

not

Person A: Fuck you retard/n-word/fag/whatever lol wats empathy

Personally, Jontron's comments offended me on a comedy level. C'mon dude, calling things retarded is middle school humor. Let's step up our game a bit. Though I imagine a big portion of his audience are middle schoolers anyway.

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