JonTron insults Platstation Now, Tumblr has a shit fit *UPDATE*

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Zachary Amaranth:

Saltyk:

Spare me. Words are not offensive. You choose to be offended by them.

No, you chose to take the most pedantic version of a phrase and run with it.

Do you speak for the developmentally disabled? If not, don't try and shoot down others because you are not offended. Try having some basic empathy.

Obviously, I don't. And I would never claim to speak for others. Nor should you, I would point out.

I am not offended by mere words. Words can not harm you. Sure, you could use "retarded" to insult a person, and they would be justified to be offended, but merely using the word is not offensive. I am sick and tired of words being so called triggers. This is stupid. Suddenly, there's tons of words I can't say because some random person might hear and get offended for the mere use of a word that exists. And that is childish.

As for empathy for the handicapped, I have none. And you know why? I don't look down on them as being sad and unfortunate people. They certainly don't want you to. I'd much rather treat the handicapped with respect, then treat them like some monstrous other that we should look down on. Maybe you do, but I don't.

Zachary Amaranth:
Well, I find it to be a slur, and I fit the bill (especially if you go by Salty's definition, which is a lot looser than would be standard).

I think you misunderstood my point. I have vivid memories of when I was effectively mentally handicapped. I could probably find my old Learning Disabled classroom if I found the old school I went to. I vividly remember things like a teacher giving the class ouster crackers, posters from the room, and even roughly where I sat (only a seat or two back from the front row and one row from the end). I remember spending time in that class. I remember going to speech therapy classes. I remember things that are so embarrassing I will take those memories to my grave without sharing them.

I do not consider myself handicapped. I've long since outgrew that. But I remember it. And I remember it with a mind that understands exactly what that meant. One of the things that sort of bugs me is what would have happened to me if my mother had not gone against doctor's orders and taken me off that medicine? Would I still be that person? A person who could never manage on their own? All because I was taking medicine for what might have been a misdiagnosis (epilepsy) as I have not had any symptoms since that time.

Perhaps it's one reason I tend to want to do things on my own without any help. I remember being helpless.

I appreciate the assumption that I'm speaking on another's behalf, though, simply because I didn't start off trying to make a point by launching a list of disabilities that cannot be verified over the web in the first place.

You missed the point. Again. I could easily be offended by the word. More so than most can, honestly. But allowing the mere use of a word that is not used against you to offend you, is bull shit.

Most of those people are claiming it could offend others. Well, let those people speak up for themselves. Plenty of handicapped people are capable of speaking for themselves. Don't claim that you know someone who might be offended. You're not protecting that person. You're actively shaming them for something that is beyond their control far more than some random guy on the internet calling electronics retarded ever will.

Lovely Mixture:

QuietlyListening:
I see nothing wrong with encouraging empathy.

What truly mystifies me is the outrage on the other side. I ask again, what's so bad about people showing a little consideration and not being jerks? What's the point of defending jerkish behaviour and encouraging spite and meanness?

Because if people are going to judge empathy based on someone's usage of a word with no ill intent meant to those associated with the word, then I consider them backwards.

No one is defending jerkish behavior, they're criticizing overzealous political correctness.

You can still cause harm even without intent. If I called someone a n----- (I don't normally censor myself, but I don't know the forum rules on language use) and then responded to their anger with, "Oh, I didn't mean it as in calling you black, I meant it as calling you an Ignorant Mofo (Boondocks)." That defense would sit pretty weak. Yeah, I may not have intended it to be racial, but I still chose to use the word with full knowledge that it does have a commonly understood racial tone and context.

Is it as bad as being a full on racist? Probably not. But that doesn't make it excusable either.

EDIT: And if one truly did use a slur without knowledge of why its offensive, then the proper response is to apologize and not do it again. The ignorance defense only works once.

EDIT EDIT: Someone speaking for themselves: http://specialolympicsblog.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/an-open-letter-to-ann-coulter/

Zontar:

Harpalyce:
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Yeah, well I don't take kindly to people using a condensing and patronizing tone with me mixed with a failed attempt at sarcasm to try and make their point have more gravitas then it actually does, but you don't see me making long post rants about how it's the worst thing ever.

Ohh, I see now! So four paragraphs is only really medium-sized, not 'long'? I get it.

I'll keep it in mind for the future - no attempts at levity in arguments on the Escapist, because things are Very Serious here.

Seriously though, I'm not going to tell you what you should and shouldn't be offended about. I mean, that's both silly and a remarkably futile exercise. I had hoped to communicate that with my post, but I guess we all get off-base sometimes. What I was instead trying to get across is that, yes, there are people out there who are hurt by things like this, and it's worth the time to go listen to them about how it hurts them. More data-collecting, in other words, makes a sounder hypothesis. It's an interesting subject that I find to be worth reading about, and if you do some digging you might feel the same way as well. Unfortunately on the internet it's way too easy to just go for the kneejerk response - both sides do this, after all - instead of actually trying to sift out the opinions that are meaningful and the voices that are worth listening to. I mean, this original post was basically a kneejerk response in order to laugh at Tumblr, as if Tumblr were some homogeneous entity. (If only that were true, I'd see a lot less neo-nazi blogs lurking at the fringes of things. Yeesh, they're creepy as hell.) I think that if people merely back off making it a tribal thing - not a Tumblr vs. Escapist thing, not a group A versus group B thing - and actually sit down and listen to some people who are saying 'here's why it hurts and here's why it matters', we might come up with a much different conversation and find ourselves agreeing with the people we sought out to listen to.

Or we might not. But hey, I can hope, right? :)

Sleekit:
this whole thing is like the blackest nightmare from back when the internet was a field of dreams.

we could educate and enlighten ourselves and move forward together into a bright new future...

or hurl shit at each other in form of brief utterances and visual aids[1]...

I dunno, AIDS does sound like a better term for Tumblr.

QuietlyListening:
You certainly do have that freedom. And you have the freedom to be mean, hateful, and insulting. But just because you have the right to be awful doesn't mean you should.

And it's not like I'm digging very far to find the offense. Lots of people have actively stated that they're offended by it. And even if you don't know anyone personally who you're denigrating, should that really matter?

Say we were at a party, and you noticed that my dick was hanging out of my trousers. You might come over to me and say, "Hey, you should put that away. It's not appropriate." Now, I could respond by dick-slapping you in the face and yelling "THIS IS MY RIGHT." I could certainly do that. However, I probably wouldn't get invited to very many parties after that. Moreover, I probably wouldn't have any right to get pissed if that happened.

And, yes, it's fun to run around at parties, dick-slapping people. It's a good time and a great story. However, do you really want to be that guy? Is that what you want people to think of when your name comes up?

Admittedly, this metaphor has run away from me somewhat. I suppose what confuses me with all the anger is what exactly would be lost by not using slurs to describe things. Would your life be meaningfully impacted? Would some great joy be missing?

On the other hand, consider the good done by not engaging in behaviour that contributes to human misery.

So I'd like you to answer a question: Why shouldn't we show some empathy and give people this small kindness?

you probably were one of those people who thought it was a good idea to cry at 4chan to tell them to stop calling each other newfag, oldfag, /pol/fag, /b/tard and such.

It sounds like Tumblr didn't learn the first time that on the internet, all bets are off and if you show even the slightest ability to be offended, people will jump on you like the proverbial fly onto shit.

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be offended because JonTron called Playstation Now, which is retarded, retarded. Pay no mind that there are people who do worse things on the internet.

But that's why Tumbltards are the way they are, they go after weak people and the second they are met with any kind of "facts" or "truth", they go cry back in their hugbox and their favorite tags get spammed with porn and gore for a few weeks because they took the internet as a serious place.

[1] this is NOT a new nickname for tumblr

As always, it's all about the context.
His post was CLEARLY not intended to offend/attack a group of individuals.
End of story.

I grew up using terms like retarted and gay to describe things I disliked and that was normal. I used these terms, my friends used these terms, people at grade school, high school, etc. This didn't mean we were all heartless human beings out to hate these groups of people. I didn't even associate it with a group of people. They were just the words we choose to use.

Obviously Jon could have handled himself better.
The fact that this even became a thing to begin with is what surprises me more than anything.

Kalezian:

you probably were one of those people who thought it was a good idea to cry at 4chan to tell them to stop calling each other newfag, oldfag, /pol/fag, /b/tard and such.

It sounds like Tumblr didn't learn the first time that on the internet, all bets are off and if you show even the slightest ability to be offended, people will jump on you like the proverbial fly onto shit.

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be offended because JonTron called Playstation Now, which is retarded, retarded. Pay no mind that there are people who do worse things on the internet.

But that's why Tumbltards are the way they are, they go after weak people and the second they are met with any kind of "facts" or "truth", they go cry back in their hugbox and their favorite tags get spammed with porn and gore for a few weeks because they took the internet as a serious place.

Actually, I have mixed feelings on the 4chan naming conventions. On the one hand, they use the terms as a self-identifier, which helps wrest power away from the negative connotation of the word, e.g. being a proud /b/tard. On the other hand, because it's 4chan, the names are also used self deprecatingly, helping to reinforce those negative connotations. Then again, 4chan has never been known as a bastion of forward social thinking. All in all, I find it better to just ignore 4chan entirely. The one thing I respect about them is that while they may be a bunch of anti-social jerks, they're at least honest about their own awfulness. It takes a certain twisted fortitude to understand that you're being a horrible human being with negative social value and to say, "Yeah. I'm cool with that." Mad props, I guess?

The internet, and life in general, is pretty wild. There are people who act like dicks and people who don't. So I ask again, what's so bad about not acting like a dick?

P.S. That Gaza Strips joke is pretty funny.

clippen05:

EHKOS:
Seriously? It's Jon. He's an idiot. Although he does have a point at how trivial jumping at someone like this is. But really, it's Jon. I've never agreed with a single opinion of his.

Because clearly everyone who you don't share an opinion with deserves to be labeled an idiot.

That last bit was more of a tack-on, sorry. I think he's an idiot because of the year on Game Grumps. Mostly his game criticism. He basically claimed about ten games as his "absolute favorite." While I may not agree or disagree with his opinions, they are not made in the best of logic.

I also pretty much contradicted myself anyway, but I just don't think very highly of him.

This is pretty much my position on the word "retard".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqiGWd0-0Os

Seriously if he would have just gone and said "sorry that offended you, but I certainly didn't mean to offend you and was just using the word as defined." then this entire situation would have been dodged though I still think people would have freaked out. But it would have turned out more douchey. Come on guys its 2014, can't we understand that "retarded" is an actual word that has a definition that is not offensive? I will agree however that it is often used offensively at least in high school it was (specifically when talking about a person.)

In this case I would say that this was both handled poorly and he was an asshole about it. I think though, on whether people should get offended, I think they have a right to. So if the person who said the word gives a damn about his fellow man (and the person who is offended isn't an asshole) then it shouldn't be a problem to say "Sorry I didn't mean to offend you, I'll clarify next time" And then its a done deal.

But unfortunately that did not happen. Therefore, JonTron was an asshat about it, he apologized, done story. There's no arguing around that.

JonTron thinks being offended is dumb and tantamount to censorship from people who are just too sensitive and "PC".
Unless of course he's the one who is offended.
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The hypocrisy is palpable. As PsychadelicEyeball put it on twitter "JonTron sure knows how to dig a grave. I went from thinking the response to his tweets was being too excessive to totally warranted."

QuietlyListening:
Reasons to not use the word "retarded":
1. Its a pejorative that helps perpetuate the stereotype of people with mental disabilities as being inferior.
2. Some people find it extremely hurtful.
3. There are plenty of other words one can use that don't cause pain for no reason.

Reasons to use the word "retarded":
1. It's funny(?)

If you want to incorporate slurs into your speech, that's completely your right. But it doesn't make you any less of a dick.

Personally, I'm all for efforts to reduce the amount of dickishness in the world. What's so terrible about that?

Slur. SLUR How dare you use the term slur. you're offending me and my speech impediment sir I demand you cease using the word as I find it offensive.

Ok so that wasn't true I don't find it offensive but that's the approach being taken here.

If you're offended it up to you to deal with it and avoid being offended. Be that to unfollow said person or use a replacer add-on program to filter such things. It is not the job of everyone else to walk round on egg shells for fear of offending you.

you're not free from me offending you back but I have no right to demand you change to fit me.

If you want to claim people should then I'm going to make it my work for the rest of this threat to be proxy offended by as many things as possible including the words bread and cupcakes.

Honestly, this whole issue is retarded. Jon didn't outright call the guy retarded, I'm pretty sure he was just saying "Why do you care if you're not retarded?" based on the context of the comment.

I like him for sticking to his guns instead of conceding to political correctness.

But he handled it poorly otherwise. Shouldn't have responded to the first guy, shouldn't have brought in Isreal because it was entirely a non-sequitur, definitely should not have responded to Tumblr being a bunch of spergs.

And that TotalBiscuit reply. Oh my gee, that is a burn with no equal, I almost think JonTron and TotalBiscuit collaborated this on purpose just to set up that rebuttal.

Ratty:
JonTron thinks being offended is dumb and tantamount to censorship from people who are just too sensitive and "PC".
Unless of course he's the one who is offended.
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The hypocrisy is palpable. As PsychadelicEyeball put it on twitter "JonTron sure knows how to dig a grave. I went from thinking the response to his tweets was being too excessive to totally warranted."

There's a difference between being offended over a word that isn't even used in reference towards you or someone you know and being offended over a comment directed solely towards you or your character that has obvious negative connotations. Saying "getting offended over a word is stupid" is not the same as saying "you can never be offended over anything ever".

Siding with JonTron on this one. Fanboys look for reasons to start insulting and threatening anyone who makes fun of whatever they obsess over. Yes, he used the word retarded. Yes, that word is not politically correct but that is when referring to a person with legitimate development issues. So everyone should get their shit together and not worry about a bad app in an otherwise good system being insulted by a comedian/game critic.

Siding with JonTron on this one. Fanboys look for reasons to start insulting and threatening anyone who makes fun of whatever they obsess over. Yes, he used the word retarded. Yes, that word is not politically correct but that is when referring to a person with legitimate development issues. So everyone should get their shit together and not worry about a bad app in an otherwise good system being insulted by a comedian/game critic.

Honestly here it's a case of contextual use.

It wasn't used as an insult yet someone was offended on another persons behalf because of the word being mentioned and took it as an insult against someone.

Then Jon did insult said person almost as a joke to say is this why you're offended.

Ratty:
JonTron thinks being offended is dumb and tantamount to censorship from people who are just too sensitive and "PC".
Unless of course he's the one who is offended.
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The hypocrisy is palpable. As PsychadelicEyeball put it on twitter "JonTron sure knows how to dig a grave. I went from thinking the response to his tweets was being too excessive to totally warranted."

As for this. The girl in question was considering what Jon Tron did a personal comment about the how disposable her and her family were that their potential deaths could be used in such a callus way.

Did Jon target her family and say he didn't care or did he use a generalised example of a horrific event to claim maybe I'm not the biggest evil around guys.

I mean this is Jon Tron. The guy who went to Disneyland with friends to avoid any more shouting and blame throwing from the Game jam event. That should tell you how little he likes ending up on situations of conflict, sure it happens to him but it doesn't mean he seeks it out just that his expression of his feelings can sometimes be a bit blunt.

Alek_the_Great:
There's a difference between being offended over a word that isn't even used in reference towards you or someone you know and being offended over a comment directed solely towards you or your character that has obvious negative connotations. Saying "getting offended over a word is stupid" is not the same as saying "you can never be offended over anything ever".

But he didn't say "getting offended at a word" he said "I think being offended by something is a stupid concept". He said "something" not "a word". Big difference. He was being dismissive to all people who might be offended about anything, about the concept of being offended.

The_Kodu:
Honestly here it's a case of contextual use.

It wasn't used as an insult yet someone was offended on another persons behalf because of the word being mentioned and took it as an insult against someone.

Then Jon did insult said person almost as a joke to say is this why you're offended.

Yeah but like I said, he made a broad statement about being offended in general. Not about being offended at the use of certain words.

The_Kodu:
As for this. The girl in question was considering what Jon Tron did a personal comment about the how disposable her and her family were that their potential deaths could be used in such a callus way.

Did Jon target her family and say he didn't care or did he use a generalised example of a horrific event to claim maybe I'm not the biggest evil around guys.

I mean this is Jon Tron. The guy who went to Disneyland with friends to avoid any more shouting and blame throwing from the Game jam event. That should tell you how little he likes ending up on situations of conflict, sure it happens to him but it doesn't mean he seeks it out just that his expression of his feelings can sometimes be a bit blunt.

It's a pretty tasteless time and way to bring up the tragic death of children. How about if he's really concerned about the slaughter in Gaza HE does something about it. Find a charity to help the Palestinian civilians and do a fundraiser. The way he framed it he used these deaths to take pressure off of himself, it was all about him.

Can I side with neither?

Yeah, that's what I think I'm gonna do. To hell with 'em all.

Though, kudos to TB for the snarky quip. I usually don't like the guy but I'd give him a hand-shake and a thumbs-up for that tweet.

Oh boy I see real world calamities are being milked as a defensive tool, the whole "starving children in Africa" fallacy. Funny how people who deal in the most pointless of things (woo woo woo, they make youtube videos, you know it) defend themselves with that fallacy.

Karma would have the likes of Biscuit's videos on bad ports, used games, and the like be met with a response of "more important things happening in the world you tool", but lets be honest here he knows how his marks work.

Vigormortis:

Though, kudos to TB for the snarky quip. I usually don't like the guy but I'd give him a hand-shake and a thumbs-up for that tweet.

Really now? Lets see what is wrong with that "snarky quip"

1: Mentions Jontron calling the PS4 retarded. That is simply incorrect as it was Playstation Now, a service (not a console) that was referred to as retarded.

2: Something being "retarded" doesn't mean it "retards" everything surrounding it. You could say consoles have a "retarding" effect, but you can not say they are simply retarded as that would not fit the narrative. How he phrases it, and more importantly the meaning in what he is saying (which is plain as day) is incorrect.
Of course above all that is you shouldn't be talking such bunkum in the first place.
I mentioned it earlier and its apt to mention again. If someone said that consoles were like black people underachieving, being poor, bad, ugly. or whatever else your mind conjurers up...I don't think they'd be many defending that. Of course they'd rightly say its offensive, but its people with disabilities, who gives a crap right? Starving children in Africa and all that.

3: Ignorance of the English language indeed, but this is the man who seems to only realise the offensive when something precious to him is hurt. So if karma catches up to him again he'll soon be begging forgiveness, and saying how he was such a X when he said such a comment.

QuietlyListening:

You can still cause harm even without intent. If I called someone a n----- (I don't normally censor myself, but I don't know the forum rules on language use) and then responded to their anger with, "Oh, I didn't mean it as in calling you black, I meant it as calling you an Ignorant Mofo (Boondocks)." That defense would sit pretty weak. Yeah, I may not have intended it to be racial, but I still chose to use the word with full knowledge that it does have a commonly understood racial tone and context.

Is it as bad as being a full on racist? Probably not. But that doesn't make it excusable either.

I don't care. If I hurt someone's feelings they can talk to me and I can work it out. Why do you need to speak up for these people who might get offended?

EDIT EDIT: Someone speaking for themselves: http://specialolympicsblog.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/an-open-letter-to-ann-coulter/

Should I link the handicapped people who felt people were overreacting at Jon?

as much as I like Jontron he's being an ass

in that terrible things happening elswhere in the world are not a "get of out being a dick free" card,

I mean really he should have just rolled his eyes and moved on

*sigh* I really wanted to just ignore this whole issue, but since the thing has spread everywhere, it's kind of ended up effecting me on a personal level. I really want to add my two cents so now's as good a time as any.

Overall, just speaking from a purely philosophical view on word usage, I'm with Jon. This whole thing was unnecessary and overblown way out of proportion by people who more than likely had zero personal reason to be offended to begin with BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT Jon has not handled the situation gracefully and seems to be missing the point as to why people are mad at him to begin with, that being that he took the criticism and threw it back into the person's face. This could have been nipped in the bud really early on, but instead he dragged it out and now it's turned into a shitstorm. And throughout the day, I have been seeing downright terrible behavior from people on both sides of the argument, including close friends and people I highly respect. This, of all things, seems to be bringing out the absolute worst in everyone I know, to the point where I'm having a hard time truly supporting either side regardless of my own stance. I just want it to end.

But, that's just the kind of person Jon is. He's a bastard when it comes to using the right word.
That doesn't make him anything the tumbler goblins make him out to be. He's a nice guy, who fails to filter his words.

And this is twitter. Someone calling a console 'retarded' must be some of the tamest use of that word on the entire network!

See, here's the thing; if people with mental issues or problems had a serious issue with JonTron's comments, then this flamewar would have some legitimacy. Beyond JonTron's response to the person who politely asked him to be more considerate, this is just bellyaching from the same kind of people; white, mostly middle-class, college-age women who think that they need to take offense at things on behalf of other groups who may not even care. For example, I hear people say "that's so gay" all the time, myself included and other gay people. It doesn't bother me. Yet that same demographic has to have a little crusade on the internet over it.

Uh, Biscuit nailed it.
More tolerance for the consoles, please, they need our help.

keniakittykat:
But, that's just the kind of person Jon is. He's a bastard when it comes to using the right word.
That doesn't make him anything the tumbler goblins make him out to be. He's a nice guy, who fails to filter his words.

And this is twitter. Someone calling a console 'retarded' must be some of the tamest use of that word on the entire network!

I dunno, calling someone retarded for politely asking you not to say the word retarded isn't really something a nice guy would do. I don't much care that Jon called PlayStation Now retarded. I can deal with casual insensitivity like that, but he was complete jerk when someone who didn't want to deal with his casual insensitivity called him out on it.

That said, Jon does have a history of not being able to handle criticism. Though this is the worst I've ever seen him get.

Lunar Templar:
That PS Now thing is retarded, and people really should be giving more of a shit about real world issues then weather or not some one on the internet shares your stance on 'which gaming platform is best'

Well, then that means no arguement or criticism is ever validated in the face of real world horror. I suppose that means the Jimquistion should pack up, since who cares about issues in the gaming industry when people are dying in third-world countries and warzones.

Dirty Hipsters:
I can't believe people still care what tumblr thinks.

Still, JonTron's response was totally dickish. Not even in a funny way either, it wasn't clever it was just juvenile. It's like he really wants to be Tosh but can't quite make it work.

I think he immediately got upset for the same reason I (and many other people) immediately get upset when others pull this kind of thing on us. It's very stressful and irritating to constantly be walking on eggshells for people with skin 1-atom thick. He has to do it for basically the entire internet, and at some point you just drop the pleasantries and say enough is enough. On the surface it does seem like Jon is a jerk, but really when it's happening to you it's very apparent just how childish and passive aggressive it is for someone to jump on you in a completely random conversation saying: "Oh goodness, it seems you said something that might have been offensive to someone, somewhere at some point in time. Please consider what a lowly person you are while I pat myself on the back for confronting you like the hero and good person I am!".

I don't blame him for being childish and aggressive back, more people should be. It is an attack, it should be treated like one.

So in other words it is the new thing we discuss in other Threads:
The Social Justice Warriors I think we call them?
Just because JonTron said the "word", most of the people decided to get offented by this and they began to "care" by insulting JonTron MORE than him.
And of course the question remaim: How many really care about this? Because the whole SJW thing is to pretend you care, if I remember right.

Also I am neutral on this. I love JonTron, but I don't want to get involved. The real life is more important than this "serious" discussion.

Alek_the_Great:
Honestly, this whole issue is retarded. Jon didn't outright call the guy retarded, I'm pretty sure he was just saying "Why do you care if you're not retarded?" based on the context of the comment.

That, plus the fact that I'm pretty sure Jon called Ben Huber retarded because he noticed that Huber was calling him out on using the word "retarded"....but was stupid enough to misspell it and write "retarted". You'd have to be retarded to misspell retarded while you're literally looking at a tweet about the use of the word retarded...

JonTron was right; don't tell people what they can and can not say. Social Justice Warriors think in this disturbing mindset that if you say, or believe in something they don't like, they'll fucking fry you. His reaction was called for; he asks him to stop using the word, and without actually thinking about it, there's no problem with that. That sort of mentality where, "I don't like what you're doing, so stop" is childish and shouldn't be tolerated. If you don't like the words he uses, then unfollow him -- that fucking easy.

Also, if you google up "retarded" and you'll find one of the definitions being, "stupid or foolish."
That's my input.

The people at Tumblr had a point when they complained about the use of the word "retarded", and whoever this JonTron character is, he should have apologized. When someone said that he shouldn't use it, they were doing so in a nice, polite way. He could have avoided this simply by saying "oops, wrong word to use" or something similar.

I mostly side with JonTron. It is a trivial comment to be offended by. He should not have mentioned any other issues in his response though, as that is just distraction.

Elijin:
Given how polite the first reply asking him not to use the word that way was....and his reply to it. I see this less as a social justice issue and more and him being a total dick.

I agree he should not have directly insulted the guy. My response would have depended on my mood. I would either have explained my position or told him to fuck off.

the tumblr reaction is funnier than Jontron's 'joke' at least.

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