Where were the Avengers/SHIELD in Iron Man 3?

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Maybe I just missed a line or something in the movie, but this just bugged me while watching Iron Man 3.

Where the hell was Captain America/SHIELD/Hawkeye etc. etc. during all of this? I understand it's Iron Man's movie, but if the "trouble" was really a national crisis involving the President, why wasn't there any backup for Iron Man? Or even when his house got destroyed, and Pepper was in danger, why wasn't it "Go chill with Captain America/Hulk/Nick Fury for a little bit while I take care of this stuff"

Did that bother anybody else?

Well the rest of the Avengers were doing their own thing.

Also Shield was mentioned slightly at the beginning of the movie. Besides, they're not really "needed" until something world threatening comes it's way.

It's kinda the same reason Warmachine was never mentioned in the Avengers, it just wouldn't make sense (from our perspective) and could be reasoned that they had their own battles to fight.

Yeah I was wondering about SHIELD involvement in the film other than being hacked so easily by Stark. You would think a terrorist leader who can hacked into the news network at will while killing a person on aired and aswell making threat to the President in a form of "education" would caught the SHIELF attnetion.

As for therest of the Avengers member where about, I just assume they are still AWOL or something like that as in not reporting back to SHIELD after the alien invasion.

Hulk's character showed up in the after credits scene. Other than that, I'm reasonably satisfied with the explanation "the comics get away with it, why not the movie?"

Lets see my guesses would be,

Shield- I imagine that shield would not want to be drawn into a fight that is so "public" since they are all hush hush, also remember that no one knew that extremis was involved in the attacks it just seemed like a very well organized terrorist not something that the guys who are on world saving watch should be wasting time with

Captain America- seemed to be "retired" from the military, not that he would have been very useful in tracking down a terrorist anyway

Thor- doing Asgard stuff in Asgard

Hulk- Has no real stake in fighting a terrorist he is also in hiding so hunting down the mandarin would probably expose him

Hawkeye and Black Widow- both shield agents if shield isn't there they wouldn't be either

Same reason as War Machine wasn't in The Avengers, or the Eagles didn't fly the fellowship to Mount Doom - it would make a shorter movie. Any other explanation is more of an excuse than an explanation. Plausible, perhaps, but we all know why they REALLY weren't in the movie.

My theory was that Stark was deliberately avoiding SHIELD because he worried that their presence would trigger his PTSD, but he was ok with seeing Bruce Banner because The Hulk is the one who saved his life when he fell out of the portal. After all, just the word 'electricity' when he was fixing the armour triggered an anxiety attack, presumably be reminding him of Captain America.

Johnny Novgorod:
Same reason as War Machine wasn't in The Avengers, or the Eagles didn't fly the fellowship to Mount Doom - it would make a shorter movie. Any other explanation is more of an excuse than an explanation. Plausible, perhaps, but we all know why they REALLY weren't in the movie.

But yeah, you're right, any suggestion's still an excuse, not an explanation.

I'm thinking that they might be doing what happened with Phase 1 and have everything happen within a short time span, which would mean that everyone is off doing solo films.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume that Cap was busy at the exact same moment, Hulk didn't want to get involved and Thor was being Thor away in Asgard. Maybe SHIELD was after Kony or something.

It was an Iron Man movie, I expected it to be about Iron Man with only a few references to the other heroes/agencies out there. That's what I got. I don't need every Marvel movie to be an Avengers style collaboration from now on. XD

Maybe all the movies are happening at the same time? Like whilst Iron Man 3 is going on, Cap is dealing with whatever is going down in the 'The Winter Soldier', and Thor is dealing with the elves.

I think to an extent they want to keep the Avengers and the individual heroes seperate so that fans of one but not the other aren't constantly burdened by content they don't care for. Whether or not that makes narrative sense.

It never crossed my mind actually. It was an Iron Man movie after all, not an Avengers one. Is this question going to be asked for every solo Marvel movie featuring an Avenger that comes out between now and Avengers 2? Probably....

Anyone else think it was odd that it was a Christmas movie?

I think thats going to be a running theme, maybe Thor and Captain America will be focused on another holiday event and a timeline could be built up.

Like others have said, it's an Iron Man movie, not an Avengers movie, so despite the shared continuity separation is still important.

But if I had to pick a plausible reason for SHIELD being not-so-present, I'd say the organization faced some serious fallout from the shadowy council (who, despite not being identified as such, I think is a stand-in for the UNSC permanent members given their varying nationalities) and was probably under heavy scrutiny and unable to actively participate in any major ops at the time. After all, the council wasn't exactly pleased with Nick Fury's methods, despite their success.

Eh, they usually don't deal with the "where are all the other heroes" question, I can't imagine it being fun for writers find a excuse for it every single story. Granted Marvel kindas begs for it when they stick most of their heroes within easy travel distance from one and another, especially when you count flight and/or planes. Then there's DC where a whole lot of heroes can quickly circle the globe with ease. And in both cases we have magic or teleportation.

So yeah, it's kinda something you're supposed to let go. :p

Johnny Novgorod:
Same reason as War Machine wasn't in The Avengers, or the Eagles didn't fly the fellowship to Mount Doom - it would make a shorter movie. Any other explanation is more of an excuse than an explanation. Plausible, perhaps, but we all know why they REALLY weren't in the movie.

No, there's a REASON the eagles didn't fly the fellowship to Mount Doom.
The Avengers aren't in Iron Man 3 because it's Iron Man's movie, and they're all reasonably high profile actors at this point.

Besides being mentioned, I don't really see a reason to bring them in to the movie. The movie is about tony stark's demons once again and its meant to be his spotlight, his fights. Its not a big enough enemy (unless the next one involves AIM creating M.O.D.O.K) to bring anyone else into it, as AIM was an iron man villian first (I believe). It just wasn't a big enough enemy to have anyone else dirty their hands. They'll all get their own shots as they have their own movies coming out. Why jump into Iron Man's show?

Better question, where was Spiderman in the Avengers? I mean it was New York right? Couldn't even show one badguy webbed up as like a lil' easteregg thing?

The simple answer, apart from it's an Ironman movie so it's about Ironman but if you want a canon or story based reason it's because SHIELD and The Avengers are a last line of defence, the answer when their is literally nothing left to save the Earth. While a terrorist doing terrorist shit is all very bad when you look at what the Manadrin was doing compared to what Loki was going to do, well blowing a few locations up and killing a President isn't really Earth shattering stuff now is it?

Even Stark didn't bother until Happy got himself blown up by the bad guys.

The way I see it:

Thor - The Bifrost bridge was destroyed in his film, he only came to Earth in The Avengers because Odin was willing to use a huge amount of dark energy to send him there (Loki says so in the film). Odin probably didn't want to waste more energy sending Thor back to Earth for something that seemed as if someone else could handle it, plus in The Avengers Thor went to retrieve Loki.

SHIELD - They might have been busy rebuilding the Helicarrier since it had a small war fought on it, plus as was mentioned earlier they are very hush-hush.

Snotnarok:
Better question, where was Spiderman in the Avengers? I mean it was New York right? Couldn't even show one badguy webbed up as like a lil' easteregg thing?

I spent that whole last part of the film looking for something like that. Would have been awesome.

THOR - Asgard
Hulk - Hiding, working.
Captain America - Probably in Iran or something doing military stuff.
SHIELD - I can honestly say that I can imagine Samuel Jackson saying "Tony's got this covered."

The stakes never reached a level that would require S.H.I.E.L.D. or the other Avengers to get involved. This was Stark's personal battle. Besides, a major point in The Avengers was that they could only be assembled in times of desperation.

Frankly, when they thought the Mandarin was just another terrorist blowing things up here and there, he was too small fry for SHIELD to get involved. SHIELD deals with super-powered threats like Asgardians and the Hulk and the Tesseract, not demagogues with a couple of zealots and video cameras. They were clearly monitoring the Mandarin just in case, so there was intel for Tony to hack. But there was no indication Mandarin was anything more than just another terrorist, making it the job of mundane intelligence, law enforcement, and military agencies to get him, not SHIELD's. By the time Air Force One was attacked, it was already too late for SHIELD to get involved.

Also, while SHIELD came across as an American agency when they were first introduced in Iron Man 1, the Avengers suggested they were an international organization. If the latter's the case, maybe they don't have an automatic mandate to intervene in partner nations' internal affairs when no superpowers or extraterrestrials are evident.

chozo_hybrid:

Snotnarok:
Better question, where was Spiderman in the Avengers? I mean it was New York right? Couldn't even show one badguy webbed up as like a lil' easteregg thing?

I spent that whole last part of the film looking for something like that. Would have been awesome.

They were probably trying to avoid diverting attention to a series that fell flat on it's face on the third installment and trying to kick that reboot out as fast as possible

Shocksplicer:

Johnny Novgorod:
Same reason as War Machine wasn't in The Avengers, or the Eagles didn't fly the fellowship to Mount Doom - it would make a shorter movie. Any other explanation is more of an excuse than an explanation. Plausible, perhaps, but we all know why they REALLY weren't in the movie.

No, there's a REASON the eagles didn't fly the fellowship to Mount Doom.
The Avengers aren't in Iron Man 3 because it's Iron Man's movie, and they're all reasonably high profile actors at this point.

Lets not get into that whole Eagles thing. It would be a terrible Idea if the Eagles had gotten involved and tried to carry Frodo. We'd most likely have ended up with an Eagle Dark lord.

Shocksplicer:

Johnny Novgorod:
Same reason as War Machine wasn't in The Avengers, or the Eagles didn't fly the fellowship to Mount Doom - it would make a shorter movie. Any other explanation is more of an excuse than an explanation. Plausible, perhaps, but we all know why they REALLY weren't in the movie.

No, there's a REASON the eagles didn't fly the fellowship to Mount Doom.

And what would that REASON be, my liege?

Snotnarok:
Better question, where was Spiderman in the Avengers? I mean it was New York right? Couldn't even show one badguy webbed up as like a lil' easteregg thing?

chozo_hybrid:

Snotnarok:
Better question, where was Spiderman in the Avengers? I mean it was New York right? Couldn't even show one badguy webbed up as like a lil' easteregg thing?

I spent that whole last part of the film looking for something like that. Would have been awesome.

The Truth is much simpler... Marvel doesn't have the movie copyrights to spider-man, they couldn't use him so much as a cameo unless they get the movie copyrights from paramount.

Sad but true.

Snotnarok:

chozo_hybrid:

Snotnarok:
Better question, where was Spiderman in the Avengers? I mean it was New York right? Couldn't even show one badguy webbed up as like a lil' easteregg thing?

I spent that whole last part of the film looking for something like that. Would have been awesome.

They were probably trying to avoid diverting attention to a series that fell flat on it's face on the third installment and trying to kick that reboot out as fast as possible

Marvel Studios also doesn't have the rights to put Spiderman on the screen (I believe 20th Century Fox does). If something as blatant as a guy being webbed up had appeared, then they could have faced a lawsuit.
I imagine Marvel studios doesn't care how the Spiderman movies went, and is hoping they just stop making them so the rights return to Marvel.

OT:
SHIELD is international, and a couple explosions targeting America can't really warrant investigation by the recovering agency. Remember, the helicarrier was HEAVILY damaged, and they lost a lot of agents.
Thor is in Asgard. This much is explained in Avengers. It takes a lot of energy to send him to Earth (due to no Bifrost bridge), and Odi probably wouldn't care about an Earth terrorist.
Captain America - no offense to him, but he's not going to be much help in here. He's not a detective, and he couldn't have gone toe-to-toe with the bad-guys henchman. I imagine he's probably somewhere in Iraq. Iron Patriot was kind of being more effective in hunting down the villains than Cap could have been.
Hulk is shown at the end, and I doubt he wants to expose himself again. He was rather proud of his hulk-less streak in Avengers.

Johnny Novgorod:

Shocksplicer:

Johnny Novgorod:
Same reason as War Machine wasn't in The Avengers, or the Eagles didn't fly the fellowship to Mount Doom - it would make a shorter movie. Any other explanation is more of an excuse than an explanation. Plausible, perhaps, but we all know why they REALLY weren't in the movie.

No, there's a REASON the eagles didn't fly the fellowship to Mount Doom.

And what would that REASON be, my liege?

Eagles - very proud, very egotistical creatures (they exemplify there traits more than any other race in the world).
You want to put the ring that corrupted Boromir so fast next to them?
Also, they're not a taxi system. The Eagles are creatures with free will. They help because they want to, not because they have to.
And I would imagine there's a couple archers in Mordor. And eagles aren't exactly subtle. A well aimed trebuchet, ballista, or simply a hail of arrows could take down an Eagle carrying a few hobbits. Oh, and Nazgul.
Oh, and it wouldn't be the most accurate thing to drop a ring from over Mount Doom. That's something where you want to make damn sure it lands in the lava.

I think that's what Stark's early conversation with Rhodes was for. Rhodes indicated that the US government was hesitant to ask for Iron Man's help because that could interfere with potential SHIELD (global) work.

So there is a distinction between domestic events and global events (which would require Avengers attention). That's kind of weak, but that's just something that we're probably going to have to let go, unless they REALLY screw up.

Tomaius:
Anyone else think it was odd that it was a Christmas movie?

I know right? Every time we were reminded that it was Christmas I got yanked out of the movie (mentally) to ponder why they didn't just make it a December release. The only other explanation I could figure was that the director wanted to remind us of Die Hard. Which in a way the plot of the movie kinda harkened back to it.

Outside of that farfetched hypothesis I got nothing. It seems to have been Christmas simply because at some point somebody wanted the movie to take place during it.

F-I-D-O:

Johnny Novgorod:

Shocksplicer:

No, there's a REASON the eagles didn't fly the fellowship to Mount Doom.

And what would that REASON be, my liege?

Eagles - very proud, very egotistical creatures (they exemplify there traits more than any other race in the world).
You want to put the ring that corrupted Boromir so fast next to them?
Also, they're not a taxi system. The Eagles are creatures with free will. They help because they want to, not because they have to.
And I would imagine there's a couple archers in Mordor. And eagles aren't exactly subtle. A well aimed trebuchet, ballista, or simply a hail of arrows could take down an Eagle carrying a few hobbits. Oh, and Nazgul.
Oh, and it wouldn't be the most accurate thing to drop a ring from over Mount Doom. That's something where you want to make damn sure it lands in the lava.

I dunno, they were more or less a taxi system in The Hobbit two or three times. And they do tend to show up in the nick of time at the end of both stories.

Johnny Novgorod:

F-I-D-O:

Johnny Novgorod:

And what would that REASON be, my liege?

Eagles - very proud, very egotistical creatures (they exemplify there traits more than any other race in the world).
You want to put the ring that corrupted Boromir so fast next to them?
Also, they're not a taxi system. The Eagles are creatures with free will. They help because they want to, not because they have to.
And I would imagine there's a couple archers in Mordor. And eagles aren't exactly subtle. A well aimed trebuchet, ballista, or simply a hail of arrows could take down an Eagle carrying a few hobbits. Oh, and Nazgul.
Oh, and it wouldn't be the most accurate thing to drop a ring from over Mount Doom. That's something where you want to make damn sure it lands in the lava.

I dunno, they were more or less a taxi system in The Hobbit two or three times. And they do tend to show up in the nick of time at the end of both stories.

Either way, there's your reasons. Cheers F-I-D-O.

I think this is going to kinda be explained in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which takes place in roughly the same time period. They're also going to be introducing a few new characters to the melting pot, so SHIELD might be dealing with them.

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