EA steals from Games Workshop

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Technically Gamesworkshop copied off the governments involved in WW1.

Also, eh, all futuristic military nonsense looks like all other futuristic military nonsense.

wooty:
Technically Gamesworkshop copied off the governments involved in WW1.

Also, eh, all futuristic military nonsense looks like all other futuristic military nonsense.

While that is true, *cough*starship troopers what?*cough*, this is an example of pretty much giving it a re-skin. They look exactly the same >.>.

Everyone steals from game workshop. Blizzard would of gone bankrupt from never releasing a successful game after Lost Vikings otherwise.

Okay, people, the EA that designed those tanks is not the EA that published ME3.

snekadid:
I don't know, it's only April and they've already committed fraud and used bots to sign their own petition in order to earn gay rights support towards their games. I honestly don't think their stupid, I am pretty sure they are evil though. I think who ever said they thought no one would notice might have the right idea.

Considering petitions have zero impact on what a studio does or doesn't include in a game, I don't see why they'd bother making a bot to spam it. Compared to, you know, just ordering the studio to do whatever.

Plus, has there been any proof that it's EA doing this? I'd imagine people would be a bit smarter than to reuse the same phrase and randomize the names and locations, making it obvious it's a bot. Chances are it's something else trying to fake the blame, as if that hasn't happened before.

Back to the topic itself, EA is a big company, and as we've often seen, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

Ok, what is even the hell? It feels like EA keeps making stupid choice after stupid choice.

Soviet Heavy:
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Guh. Okay, now I need to change my pants.

Damn, that's a pretty model. Really makes me wish I could get into the game.

In the words of the late, great Propecia, "Who gives a fuck?"

If it's copyright infringement GW will sue and EA will get their just desserts. If they don't then seriously, who cares?

To those who care: why?

Heretics stealing the Imperium's holy war-machines?! They do not even acknowledge the Machine Spirit!!!

Righteous fury must be brought down upon this... EA, in the name of the God-Emperor!

Honestly though, I'm not all that surprised. Warhammer 40,000 has been around for 30 years now and just about every sci-fi and/or sci-fantasy setting has taken elements from it in one way or another. I mean, look at Starcraft, it's basically a re-skinned 40k game. Space Marines, people with jetpacks, big-ass tanks, the tyranid, a species of ancient, fruity space-psychics who have a splinter group of shadowy, emo space-psychics, they're all there. Hell, Starcraft 2: Heart of the Swarm is going to have a giant mech called a Warhound.

To be fair, 40k itself borrows heavily from many sources. Tolkien, various epic-fantasy stories, myths and legends from history, and so on. Even the Space Marines are basically just Heinlein's mobile infantry with less nukes snazzier-looking armor, chainswords and a dash of religious fanaticism.

It's kinda funny how badly the people who frequent this site rage all over anything/everything EA does. I wonder how it would be if we did this for every game developer.

New thread incoming:

"Valve still hasn't released Half Life 3!"
"OMG Valve is still using the source engine instead of making a new one!"

Seriously, you people try too hard.

After looking at those pictures... I miss C&C95. Man things have changed.

OT: As previously stated by other posters, it's likely a design from an artist they outsourced to and no one green lighting the project was familiar with the source material.

I was about to...

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But honestly, in this case, I can't. Usually when someone claims some creator "stole" something from another, it's often just a case of them using similar tropes and designs. Like all creative endeavour.

But in this case... The flippin things looks exactly the same, there's just no excuse for it! It's not like it would be hard to create something more individual, EA. C&C's got a rather rich identity of its own you could scavenge ideas from.

ThriKreen:

snekadid:
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Considering petitions have zero impact on what a studio does or doesn't include in a game, I don't see why they'd bother making a bot to spam it. Compared to, you know, just ordering the studio to do whatever.

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obviously you don't understand the power of public relations. They're faking the support of an rights movement in order to either try and wash away the bad will they have earned recently or just make money off the free publicity saying thousands of gay rights supporters signing their petition would earn them. Petitions have no legal power, but public opinion or rather perceived public opinion can change the way people look at something. The same reason they paid people to rally against dante's inferno in order to drum up support for their product by portraying it as being attacked by zealots.

As for that not knowing, your talking about them as if they're pants on head retarded. Are you saying not just 1, but 2 complete copies slipped by their lawyers and what ever other departments they have to keep their money in the scrooge mcduck safe everyone imagines they have. To get into development is one thing, to get that far down the chain that their using it to show case the game would suggest gross incompetence, and while not impossible, would mean that more then just a few people would lose their jobs from the fall out from this.

And EA goes "Fuck this... buy games workshop, fire all the staff who oppose us and shut the rest of the company down."

Wouldn't surprise me :-p

Ashannon Blackthorn:
And EA goes "Fuck this... buy games workshop, fire all the staff who oppose us and shut the rest of the company down."

Wouldn't surprise me :-p

I don't think EA has the money to buy Games Workshop. They're rich yes, but so is GW.

Aeonknight:
It's kinda funny how badly the people who frequent this site rage all over anything/everything EA does. I wonder how it would be if we did this for every game developer.

New thread incoming:

"Valve still hasn't released Half Life 3!"
"OMG Valve is still using the source engine instead of making a new one!"

Seriously, you people try too hard.

Mate, don't give people ideas.

And anyway, you know that whenever Half Life 3 does come out this site will be awash with threads about how the ending is wrong or Gordon's beard isn't the same as in Half Life 1 so we should all boycott Valve until they change it.

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Kane is very disappointed.

KingofMadCows:
Kane is very disappointed.

KANE LIVES IN DEATH!

Soviet Heavy:
I don't think EA has the money to buy Games Workshop. They're rich yes, but so is GW.

I think youre underestimating the size difference between the video game and tabletop markets.

Obviously GW isnt so small that it would really be bought on just a whim like that, but EA's annual turnover is somewhere around 20 times bigger than GW's. I dont think theyd have too much trouble swallowing up GW is they decided to turn their attention to it.

Holy shit, that's just crazy. the point when I noticed that even the nuts and bolts on the outside armor are identical is just unforgivable.

Get the lawyers..

daveman247:

endtherapture:
Have they further ruined Command and Conquer by adding 40K shit to it? Ergh.

I actually think that would be an improvement XD

But then it would be called dawn of war...

Hey, I liked Dawn of War! It was the last time in like 6 years where Steve Bloomers was any good.

Elfgore:
The funny thing is Dawn of war is ten times better than C&C.

Only CnC 4 and 3 are beat by Dawn of War (1 that is)

Tiberium Sun blows DoW out of the water though

Did GW properly buy the rights from Armourcast, or did they die out or go into limbo?

That's the funny thing about what Games Workshop did to Armourcast. If they didn't go through the proper channels, then EA could actually come out of this with Games Workshop, and to a lesser extent THQ.

LOL!, LOOKS LIKE DEM NOBZ AT DA GAMEZ FACTORY ARE GANNA SQUISH DEM HUMIEZ WITH A ILLEGAL DEATHROLLA LAWCASE SUTE

Well, I did tell Fredrick from Vietnam not to make the model look so similar but apparently he was forced to.

OT: There should be some leeway with most copyright infringement but that's more copyright theft! No excuse for that!

I like how apparently this one designer is now the whole of EA.

Kinda like how although I'm just the Information Assistants Assistant at work, because I did some writing for the Summer Schools I'm actually the whole of the organisation.

How much input/power/pull do you think this guy has?

This choose the older Baneblade when they could of had http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5n9BiV6Yg8

endtherapture:
Have they further ruined Command and Conquer by adding 40K shit to it? Ergh.

40k is leagues above C&C. Most of C&C is average or good, while 40k has excellent books, miniatures etc.

Although those new dark eldar and necron are taking a similar turn as some of C&C.

Souls encased in robots driving a soul encased in a giant cannon? The necrons used to be almost scary.

Also Matt Ward.|

FelixG:

Elfgore:
The funny thing is Dawn of war is ten times better than C&C.

Only CnC 4 and 3 are beat by Dawn of War (1 that is)

Tiberium Sun blows DoW out of the water though

In my opinion, very few people know that DoW2 has excellently strategic multiplayer. One of the best RTSes to come out in recent years.

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Fail. Just fucking fail.

I doubt EA activley said "Mwahaha lets rip off warhammer for the evlulz!" I think they hired a designer who copied them, not EA.

Elmoth:

endtherapture:
Have they further ruined Command and Conquer by adding 40K shit to it? Ergh.

40k is leagues above C&C. Most of C&C is average or good, while 40k has excellent books, miniatures etc.

Although those new dark eldar and necron are taking a similar turn as some of C&C.

Souls encased in robots driving a soul encased in a giant cannon? The necrons used to be almost scary.

Also Matt Ward.|

I used to be REALLY into C&C - I think it is a really intruding idea how half of it was based on the myth of Cain, and the post apocalyptic Tiberium scenario was actually really cool. The cyberpunk like NOD versus the futuristic GDI was also very cool, and the Scrin were cool too (I haven't played past Tiberian Sun mind you). The whole thing revolving around Tiberium and everyone never knowing what Kane was up to was just really cool.

40K is entirely different - the two should never be compared or mixed because they're so vastly different.

endtherapture:

Elmoth:

endtherapture:
Have they further ruined Command and Conquer by adding 40K shit to it? Ergh.

40k is leagues above C&C. Most of C&C is average or good, while 40k has excellent books, miniatures etc.

Although those new dark eldar and necron are taking a similar turn as some of C&C.

Souls encased in robots driving a soul encased in a giant cannon? The necrons used to be almost scary.

Also Matt Ward.|

I used to be REALLY into C&C - I think it is a really intruding idea how half of it was based on the myth of Cain, and the post apocalyptic Tiberium scenario was actually really cool. The cyberpunk like NOD versus the futuristic GDI was also very cool, and the Scrin were cool too (I haven't played past Tiberian Sun mind you). The whole thing revolving around Tiberium and everyone never knowing what Kane was up to was just really cool.

40K is entirely different - the two should never be compared or mixed because they're so vastly different.

I disagree. You take Tiberian Sun, Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert and you supersize it and you have something comparable to 40k. There's religion, a lot of war, death and destruction and sci-fi in both.

Well hopefully Games workshop takes them to court and sue's the shit out of them. That should make for some great popcorn fun. God they didn't even try to change the tanks at all.

Elmoth:

endtherapture:

Elmoth:

40k is leagues above C&C. Most of C&C is average or good, while 40k has excellent books, miniatures etc.

Although those new dark eldar and necron are taking a similar turn as some of C&C.

Souls encased in robots driving a soul encased in a giant cannon? The necrons used to be almost scary.

Also Matt Ward.|

I used to be REALLY into C&C - I think it is a really intruding idea how half of it was based on the myth of Cain, and the post apocalyptic Tiberium scenario was actually really cool. The cyberpunk like NOD versus the futuristic GDI was also very cool, and the Scrin were cool too (I haven't played past Tiberian Sun mind you). The whole thing revolving around Tiberium and everyone never knowing what Kane was up to was just really cool.

40K is entirely different - the two should never be compared or mixed because they're so vastly different.

I disagree. You take Tiberian Sun, Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert and you supersize it and you have something comparable to 40k. There's religion, a lot of war, death and destruction and sci-fi in both.

Red Alert is just Cold War x10000000000000 and it's pretty comical.
Tiberian Sun and Dawn are pretty much about fighting for a new resource which is actually killing the planet - it could be compared to oil in a modern day world. There's stuff about evolution with Kane's big tiberium bomb too though.

40K stopped making interesting commentary long ago and apart from Dan Abnett novels, is now just an excuse to have power armoured space marine porn. It's a giant galaxy spanning epic war setting, but C&C is somewhat grounded in reality, Tiberian Dawn was pretty recognisable as the 90s, whilst further games are just a post apocalyptic version of that. 40K makes no references to anything from our modern day time.

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