The Big Picture: Ripoff Cop

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Ripoff Cop

The original Robocop spawned a lot of weird copycats.

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His go-to jiang-shi is from Super Mario Land, rather than Hsien-ko?

Oh, Bob...

You know, it's weird how you mention the Box Office, Bob.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=robocop2013.htm

According to this, Robocop pulled in $70 million overseas. Considering that it's state production Budget is $100 Million, doesn't this mean it has already broken even?

Fun fact that Space Sheriff show would become one of the basis for VR Troopers.

Where do you find the time to watch ALL of these obscure old movies Bob?

Everything in this episode looked more interesting than the crappy movie I saw last night. There's so much about the new Robocop that makes no sense it's actually dumber than Chinese vampires vs... whatever the hell that was.

Andrew Siribohdi:
You know, it's weird how you mention the Box Office, Bob.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=robocop2013.htm

According to this, Robocop pulled in $70 million overseas. Considering that it's state production Budget is $100 Million, doesn't this mean it has already broken even?

A film needs double it's production cost to break even the cinema chain takes 50% of the ticket price.

It's cool Bob briefly mention the Metal Heroes shows, which was the basis for Saban's VR Troopers and Big Bad Beetleborgs. I wouldn't mind a Big Picture episode that explored the shows Saban made that didn't reach the same popularity as Power Rangers did. Hell, Masked Rider and its ties to Japan's ongoing Kamen Rider shows would be a multi-parter that is definitely worth exploring.

Bob, lemme just say that these are generally some of my favorite episodes of Big Picture. I was worried that this week was just going to be a more in-depth explanation as to why the new RoboCop sucked (and I wanna be clear, I'm very glad that was not the case)

But to offer a bit of constructive criticism to the way this episode was handled, I don't mind the occasional clip here or there, but it seemed like too much of this episode just consisted of clips from the things you were talking about. I would have rather you'd taken some of that time to discuss more instances of Rip-Off Cop movies.

Thank you for taking the time to read this (assuming you did)

For me, I'm turned off by the term "Robo." It just makes me think of schlock sci-fi. I prefer robots that're made more efficiently, like the droids from Star Wars.

If I want bulky, cumbersome robots with highly audible servos, well, all I need is this.

Roger:
His go-to jiang-shi is from Super Mario Land, rather than Hsien-ko?

Oh, Bob...

I'm surprised he didn't mention the Renshi from Power Rangers Jungle Fury.

CAPTCHA: dream big

Doubtful, Captcha...

It's funny how MovieBob mentiosn the obscure enemy Pionpi from Super Mario Land (who honestly is probably one of my favorite obscure Mario enemies) when describing Jiangshi, but doesn't mention Hsien-Ko/Lei-Lei.

Kumagawa Misogi:

Andrew Siribohdi:
You know, it's weird how you mention the Box Office, Bob.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=robocop2013.htm

According to this, Robocop pulled in $70 million overseas. Considering that it's state production Budget is $100 Million, doesn't this mean it has already broken even?

A film needs double it's production cost to break even the cinema chain takes 50% of the ticket price.

Domestic (US & Canada) cinemas don't take that much; distribution deals are very favourable to Hollywood studios. But the double-production cost is still a good benchmark because of marketing and other undeclared costs.

On the other hand, foreign distribution deals are usually less favourable--in some countries the studios' take can be as low as 25%. A good rule of thumb is to count the foreign box office as half of the reported figure. E.g., RoboCop's current $70 million foreign box office should be counted as $35 million, + $30 million domestic = $65 million.

MatParker116:
Fun fact that Space Sheriff show would become one of the basis for VR Troopers.

No, but a space sheriff series entry was used for season 2. VR troopers used footage from three entries of the metal heroes series from the 1980's: Superhuman Machine Metalder, Dimensional Warrior Spielban, and Space Sheriff Shaider. Funny thing, origially Saban wanted to just do a show based on Metalder but after the success of power rangers, they turned into a team hero show by splicing together three shows, that and Metalder was only 26 episodes due to low ratings. They also had to change the orignal name of the show "Cybertron" for obvious reasons.

Also does the guy and song in the promo look and sound familiar to anyone else?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px52AkqelEk

Roger:
His go-to jiang-shi is from Super Mario Land, rather than Hsien-ko?

Oh, Bob...

My go-to jiang-shi are the hopping zombies from the "dead are restless" level feeling in Spelunky.

Jman1236:

MatParker116:
Fun fact that Space Sheriff show would become one of the basis for VR Troopers.

No, but a space sheriff series entry was used for season 2. VR troopers used footage from three entries of the metal heroes series from the 1980's: Superhuman Machine Metalder, Dimensional Warrior Spielban, and Space Sheriff Shaider.

*snip*

Was going to mention just that, thank you.

Also, "Full Metal Yakuza" was an excellent "Robocop" ripoff. With giant penises.

From "I wonder what's on the internet" to "wellp, that's enough internet for one day" in 6 minutes.

Impressive.

Bob! Whattabout Fullmetal Yakuza?! :P

I love Robo Vampire so much.. I've subjected everyone I can to it after finding it in flea market years ago. (I might be a horrible person.) But yeah Lei-Lei/Hsien-Ko is a way more notable example of Jiang-Shi in gaming than the enemy from SML.

They've also made appearances in the Castlevania series, as regular enemies in the spinoff Kid Dracula games and as an optional boss in Order of Ecclesia. And the not terribly good NES game Phantom Fighter was originally a tie-in with the "Mr. Vampire" movie series, which appears to have been pretty popular in Japan at the time.

There was another famicom game and a PS2 game (released outside Japan, but not to NTSC unfortunately) featuring them as a focus and they've popped up here and there in other games over the years. But if you want to see a good Jiang-Shi movie watch the first Mr. Vampire, it's one of the best in the genre.

Gods Bob. How can you know so much about all this and yet pronounce Taoist wrong?

It's pronounced "Daoist".

Actually watched it with my dad at the Alamo Drafthouse. He really wanted to see it and I promised my wife I would see Lego with her so....

Anyways, the drafthouse always has these ads and stuff before the movie. They went through all the Robocop stuff since the first movie. Trailers, commercials, products, toys, games, cereal, and (best of all) the Japanese rip-offs.

It was pretty amazing. And then the movie started...

And their i was expecting bob to explain in excruciating detail why some people are wrong for not hating the new robocop movie. Today is a good day!

I'm in my early 20s, I shouldn't know half this stuff XD

Ah, indulgence into old properties rather than tearing apart the new one. Good episode, Bob.

So did any of those rip off capture the violence of Robocop? Anyway it doesn't suprise me given to those other bizzare film that Bob shown in the past (that DBZ/ Street Fighter/ Terminator film comt to my mind).

So...so bad. So very bad. Good old Japan and China movie rip offs. Fun times.

templar1138a:
For me, I'm turned off by the term "Robo." It just makes me think of schlock sci-fi. I prefer robots that're made more efficiently, like the droids from Star Wars.

I'm pretty sure this stuff is schlock sci-fi. Besides, with their costume budgets, a guy moving smoothly would just look like someone in spray-painted cardboard, rather than a robot.

Jman1236:

MatParker116:
Fun fact that Space Sheriff show would become one of the basis for VR Troopers.

No, but a space sheriff series entry was used for season 2. VR troopers used footage from three entries of the metal heroes series from the 1980's: Superhuman Machine Metalder, Dimensional Warrior Spielban, and Space Sheriff Shaider. Funny thing, origially Saban wanted to just do a show based on Metalder but after the success of power rangers, they turned into a team hero show by splicing together three shows, that and Metalder was only 26 episodes due to low ratings. They also had to change the orignal name of the show "Cybertron" for obvious reasons.

Also does the guy and song in the promo look and sound familiar to anyone else?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px52AkqelEk

Yep he was supposed to star in the show before Tommy's popularity in MMPR meant he had to be bought back.

I actually kind of liked the design of Lady Battlecop.

Darth Sea Bass:
And their i was expecting bob to explain in excruciating detail why some people are wrong for not hating the new robocop movie. Today is a good day!

Give it a video or 2. In fact, most likely Bob is going to whine about the new Robocop every chance he gets until the next movie he thinks really sucks but really doesn't comes along, he always does that.

I believe it is high time we bring the China based "vampire" mythology back. In all seriousness though, a talented crew can take the mythos and rework into a fairly creepy premise just going off the way they look. I can imagine making those goofy jumps into a jerky unnatural leaps or advances, and modifying the appearance to resemble maybe decaying corpses or "Juon/Grudge" type ghosts. Anyone know if there is already something like this made?

What the f...that last one was terrible, absolutely dire. I'm going to need some antidote after watching Robo Vampire.

(Glorious subtitles too small in embedded version).

Ah, balance is restored.

Strain42:
Bob, lemme just say that these are generally some of my favorite episodes of Big Picture. I was worried that this week was just going to be a more in-depth explanation as to why the new RoboCop sucked (and I wanna be clear, I'm very glad that was not the case)

But to offer a bit of constructive criticism to the way this episode was handled, I don't mind the occasional clip here or there, but it seemed like too much of this episode just consisted of clips from the things you were talking about. I would have rather you'd taken some of that time to discuss more instances of Rip-Off Cop movies.

Thank you for taking the time to read this (assuming you did)

Overload. Weirdness overload! Too many bizarre knockoffs!

OT: Didn't that one Hong Kong Robocop ripoff look like that one cover of Heavy Metal? That one Japanese artist who puts women's faces on sexy android bodies.

"Lady Battlecop" actually sounds like a rather cool twist. Maybe they should remake that next.

Andrew Siribohdi:
You know, it's weird how you mention the Box Office, Bob.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=robocop2013.htm

According to this, Robocop pulled in $70 million overseas. Considering that it's state production Budget is $100 Million, doesn't this mean it has already broken even?

Yes, because in Bob's world, $100 million in box office receipts in five days is "no one saw it."

Antsh:
Actually watched it with my dad at the Alamo Drafthouse. He really wanted to see it and I promised my wife I would see Lego with her so....

Anyways, the drafthouse always has these ads and stuff before the movie. They went through all the Robocop stuff since the first movie. Trailers, commercials, products, toys, games, cereal, and (best of all) the Japanese rip-offs.

It was pretty amazing. And then the movie started...

Yes, the reputation of the Alamo Drafthouse in San Antonio precedes itself. I'm so pissed I never got a chance to go there when my sister lived in San Antonio.

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