Square Enix Wants a New Final Fantasy Every Year

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Oh dear. That's a train wreck waiting to happen.

It's certainly laudable they want to push for shorter development cycles, but I don't know if this is the way to go for games of the RPG genre.

you mean more press the button for the movie to continue?

because that's what square enix has been doing lately, movies not games

HA! Good luck to them trying to be keep the new game consistent while maintain the same quality for every new game every year!

Ok, Square-Enix, it's time we had a talk.

You want to know what direction your company should take? Do you really want to know? I'll tell you...

...Think about it. Please?

Its a fine line to tread, for any company.

You can release the same thing annually and have people moan that its all the same or "its generic".

Or, you strive for a fresh outlook and innovate your game only to have internet geeks moan that youve changed the colour of the pause menu (or some shit like that).

Im just waiting for XIII-2 at the moment, we shall see what the future holds.

If they took their time and made one with a world map again it might be a SE FF game worth playing. They just don't have what it takes any more, not after the catastrophic failure of XIV. Arguably not after X, but that's another story.

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Ahhhhh... no. Calling FFXIII a "An out of step, overblown, incomprehensible, passive play, on rails bag of total flashy wank" would be doing in a serious injustice. Its just so much worse than that. And as for 14. Do i even need to talk about 14? I mean the series has been in full retreat since X-2 (arguably since VIII) and the JRPG genre as a whole has been shown to be seriously wanting for this entire generation.

Squeenix can't even make one decent FF game in a decade nevermind a year.

Well...
7th was awesome, loved the story, loved the characters, graphics were kinda mediocre (but surprisingly expressive)
8th was almost as awesome, loved the story, liked the characters, loved the cardgame
9th was decent, but i did not like Zidane
10th was decent but too linear
12th was ok but too short
13th was too linear, i did not like characters, shortness was not an issue though, i stopped playing at 15 hours out of boredom.
14th sucked, seriously, i have no words to describe the fail that was this game
15th? i am very much starting to doubt i will even bother buying it if/when they get around to releasing it.

Pedro The Hutt:
I bet they're just doing this so they can indeed recycle the Final Fantasy XXVII poster seen in Deus Ex Human Revolution by the time we get to 2027, the only way they can make that is if they haul ass and release at least one FF every year.

Now now, they're already at XIV and it's only year 2011, they're ahead of the curve by 3 games already.

Ubermetalhed:

VondeVon:

Marshall Honorof:
but what do Final Fantasy fans really want: consistency or innovation?

Well seeing as they're failing at innovation, I'll take the consistency.

Seriously, better odds of there being something enjoyable.

I don't know, you have to give them credit for being so bold as to try and change the series mechanics somewhat in every game. XII and XIII being the most major.

Hopefully XIII-2 will surprise alot of people, XIII's battle system had a lot of potential, if they've ironed out the flaws for the new game and also addressed narrative and story issues there could be some life in the series yet.

At the very least you can't knock the games graphically, XIII was stunning. Also the music is always fantastic.

Besides consistency is the tired formulas of WRPG sequels, people buy them in droves but they don't do much innovating in the genre nor massively redefine their series'. Skyrim being the newest example. I appreciate what Squeenix are trying to do and I hope they find their feet and produce something that will get them back on the gaming map again.

Another story of the same quality of FFX would definitely do it.

That's true, and I am a big fan of good-looking games. That's always my first hook.

My major problem with FFs in recent years has just been the (kind of important) plot and the characters. Hopefully they'll widen their writers' pool in this bid to make more games, faster.

I don't plan to buy XIII-2 simply because most of the characters would need complete personality overhauls before I'd be remotely interested in them. :)

Square-Enix. How about you release a real KH sequel, and not these crappy handheld knockoffs?

NO! NO NO NO NO NO! For $%^# sake Square-Enix! Thank you for ruining my !#$%ing day!

You know, I played FF games when they actually meant something. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of 7-10 but FFS at least they didn't come off as androgynous crap! I played FFXI for 5 years! Five freaking years and NOW you want to be pump out FF titles like it's CoD?!

Yes trolls, I'm mad. #$%^ you too. I feel like a hitler "Downfall" video is necessary for this. God dam.

"because that seems to be the best way to keep our fans interested and attracted to the franchise." NO. The best way to do that is to make QUALITY games.
And you cannot make the best quality game if you cut the time you spend on it in half or more.

How dumb can you get? Oh wait, the first 20 hours of FF 13...

No! No, don't do it Square! Why in the world would they think that?!

amaranth_dru:
Square-Enix. How about you release a real KH sequel, and not these crappy handheld knockoffs?

I second that.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure none of those titles mentioned are exactly reinventing the wheel each time.

Oh really?! Look release Versus and XIII-2, then give the whole series like a three year break to create some new series or titles and then get fans saying, "whatever happened to Final Fantasy, I miss it." and the BLAM! Final Fantasy XV.

Oooooor, divert all Square-Enix money towards the development of Just Cause 3 and Hitman. Just an idea. Or Kingdom Hearts 3. I hear that's missed.

shadowmagus:

I feel like a hitler "Downfall" video is necessary for this. God dam.

I think that would be appropriate.

Marshall Honorof:
[...] However, between sequels, remakes, and the occasional flagship title, [...]

Let's not forget the plethora of mobile Final Fantasy games, and the ones for PSN.

FFS just give us Kingdom Hearts 3 and we will be happy. No need to overcompensate.

Consistency or innovation?

Im sorry, Mr Honorof, I think you may have gotten something mixed up here. This is Final Fantasy we are talking about. The series hasnt innovated shit in the last 5 years, despite long release cycles.

People still like the games, and thats fine, but since innovation isnt happening why not go for consistency?

Personally, I prefer innovation to consistency, and I would rather see S-E take time on its projects. Kitase is right to say that they took a little too much time with XIII, but a main series game every year will probably be a bit much. Good luck to them if they can pull it off, but I think 2-3 years would make more sense.

Druyn:

I don't think so. The problem is that even their own fans were complaining about the quality issues in 13, and if I recall correctly (and there's a good chance I don't) it didn't sell nearly as well as they had hoped. If the quality keeps dropping, obviously there will be those hardcore fans who buy every game, but they'll lose a large part of their audience bit by bit and won't be able to bring in any new players.

It sold like, a million units on day one in Japan. It sold another million by year's end. It sold a million in the US launch month. It has like an 85 aggregate on Metacritic and Gamerankings.

People may have complained, but they bought it. They'll probably buy the "fix," rewarding SEQUENIX for screwing up in the first place, and they'll continue to buy even if that sucks.

Not sure if this works with JRPG's but at least it will do one thing. It will yearly tell if they are on the right path or not

With FF XIII and FF XIV they had so much work with a whole new engine that when the games came out the market had changed allot.

With a two yearly thing one might had fixed a few small things.

Wha... You know what, I don't care anymore. with the PC scene going so strong with such great indie titles, I stopped caring about mainstream gaming. Later nerds.

TheLoveableMuffin:
Oh really?! Look release Versus and XIII-2, then give the whole series like a three year break to create some new series or titles and then get fans saying, "whatever happened to Final Fantasy, I miss it." and the BLAM! Final Fantasy XV.

Oooooor, divert all Square-Enix money towards the development of Just Cause 3 and Hitman. Just an idea. Or Kingdom Hearts 3. I hear that's missed.

That's actually not a bad idea from a customer perspective, but I bet the suits at HQ would start waving quarterly reports pointing out how much of a financial mess SE is in. So they are likely to milk the poor cow silly.

Considering it's money they want...why don't they release a FF7 remake (or sequel) with Versus XIII graphics and KH/ Dissidia style battle mechanics? If they did this and KH3 they would probably be swimming in cash.

They could still do that as a last resort but the real problem is that their creative well has run dry. It's not hard to create a new battle system, rehash old content and concepts and paint some tourist landscapes...writing an immersive story with round, growing characters, on the other hand, IS. It's time they started hiring professional writers. Heck, amateur writers would probably suffice.

Totally aside: if they will manage to shit out an FF game every 12-18 months, I wonder how soon we'll be playing FF XXX :). Or will they have preemptively dropped the roman numerals by then?

Thats what happens when activision is allowed to take a genre and then turn in into an anual thing. now we have EA , The dudes that made assasin creed( dont play it dont know it ) and Square enix wanting to follow the foot steps of activision. NOW i know sports game come out yearly, but EA wants to make BF and MoH a yearly thing. They want to release moh one year and bf the next. how fckd up is that !

Oh for the love of... considering how bad the last few games were, couldn't they take a bit longer to work on the games than one year?!?!

But then again, I lost my faith in Square-Enix after they failed to make Kingdom Hearts 3 and instead resorted to stretching out the story. *SIGH*

So long as you can recreate the joy of Final Fantasies 12 and 9 go for it.

Oh no...no, no, no, no, no!

Square, I've respected you, I still do, but I will not watch you turn my beloved series into Call of Duty: RPG Edition.

Though, if this is going to be like FFVII through X, where you release consistently good games within a small time period, I'm all for it. Use the same engine for each game like you did then, so that it will cut down on development time and costs.

Manji187:
Considering it's money they want...why don't they release a FF7 remake (or sequel) with Versus XIII graphics and KH/ Dissidia style battle mechanics? If they did this and KH3 they would probably be swimming in cash.

They've stated numerous times that an FFVII remake would be in development hell for a long time if it was to be modernized like that. Much as I'd like to see it, it's probably not going to happen because it's such a huge timesink and will probably only cater to the about 50% (low estimate, here) of the fanbase that actually cares for FFVII.

I'd much rather see a V or IX remake anyway. Hell, how long did it take to make IV's DS port? Considering that the SNES versions of IV and V use the same engine, I'd say do the same for the remakes. Use the IV DS engine, recreate the FFV assets, and slap the game together. They could have that done in a year and a half.

They should stop making games and start making movies.

Square needs to realize that the fans don't want RPGs like FFXIII. They want more old school RPGs, however the only place you can find anything like that now is on hand held systems because no one bothers making them for consoles anymore.

So rather than hitting us over the head with how pretty they can make the cut scenes and the endless hallways they make us run down maybe Square can go back and look at the fun things they were doing a decade or more ago.

Until I see that they can do that I'm avoiding FF titles like the plague they are.

So, FF wants to be like CoD? Does that mean they'll have criminally short single-player campaigns, but try to make up for it with an emphasis on competative multiplayer where thirteen -year-olds with microphones can spam racist comments at you and talk about fucking your gramma till her eyeballs fall out?

Druyn:
But hey, maybe being under a tight schedule will force them to innovate and change things up. Or maybe not. We shall see.

Innovation and a tight schedule worked out well for Dragon Age II!

Oh, shit, my sarcasm-meter just exploded.

Oh joy make it worse by making more of it......

Pandabearparade:

Druyn:
But hey, maybe being under a tight schedule will force them to innovate and change things up. Or maybe not. We shall see.

Innovation and a tight schedule worked out well for Dragon Age II!

Oh, shit, my sarcasm-meter just exploded.

Didnt work much for dragon age 1 either........

And I want to build an army of hyper-masculine minotaur soldiers to take over the world and promote a socialist health-care plan that ensures adequate supplies of whey and carbohydrates for everyone whilst ensuring alternative meat-based products that no longer encroach upon the moral standard bovines have on not being eaten, and enslaving any anime-watching, final-fantasy playing, picky-scarffing, cat-ear wearing, sub-180 pound goofballs who dictate that bodybuilders are brain-dead gym-junkies with no more skill and ability than a t-bone steak.

...but some things just shouldn't be done. Wish Square Enix would come to that realization.

Still--though I've never cared for the game, from what comments I've read, it seems the biggest standpoint is that another sequel would be cool, but time and effort should be spent in making good sequels, rather than poor sequels every year. And I could agree with that standpoint on a lot of things, so yeah, I guess that's where my totally irrelevant opinion rests.

standokan:
Ah well, quantity over quality I guess, at least that's what we've learned from Call of Duty.

Daymn, dawg. Them Call of Duties just got nailed. You rock'em, homie.

I mean I agree. Good point. Funny too.

Ah well, quantity over quality I guess, at least that's what we've learned from Call of Duty.

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