Battlefield 4's System Requirements Won't Melt Your PC

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Zhukov:

fix-the-spade:

Zhukov:

Come on guys, it was mildly funny when he said it the first time. It has not improved with recycling.

That's a good metaphor for the games it describes.

*shrug*

I'm not defending modern military shooters. I'm pretty sick of them too.

However, smug parroting of not particularly funny phrases doesn't irritate me any less because it happens to be aimed at something I don't much like.

I'd rather they used the frankly very impressive for a large scale and adventurous WW2 shooter involving fronts that arent german.

Wow.
Why the hell does it even matter if I have an AMD Quad core processor? Shouldn't it run just as fast a the Intel one?
I mean, sure, optimization matters, but it should just have a marginal power difference.

GAunderrated:

To sum up my point; if steam meets all my needs why would I install origin if it doesn't do anything more that I need? Sure they are holding a few "decent" games hostage with the platform but that isn't enough to sway people such as myself.

Competition is good, monopolies are bad. That is why Origin needs to exist. It's the single biggest competitor to Steam. It has been improving greatly in the last year or so. They even had a sale a few weeks ago!

However, I do agree that it is incredibly annoying to have your gaming library spread out over multiple accounts.

Griffolion:

Doom972:
Why is Win8 on the recommended system requirements? Does it improve performance in any way?

Improved kernel, improved WDDM manager, more robust standard driver support. Technically, Windows 8 is superior to 7, and I personally am happy to use it for all the improvements over 7. The big problem is Metro. MS didn't make a technical failure with 8 (like they did in the past with ME or Vista), they made a marketing failure.

I always tell people that Windows 8 isn't bad because of technical reasons, but rather because they tried to introduce way to many changes in a short amount of time. The replacement of the start menu with metro being one of those jarring changes. When you look at both metro and the start menu, they do the same function, but the aesthetic look of metro was just too much of a change. People were used to just having the start menu right on the desktop and having it be a supplement of the desktop and Microsoft tried to make it a desktop replacement. Since people generally don't like change, you need to introduce it gradually. What they should have done was leave the start menu there, but allow you to switch between metro and the start menu and metro if you want.

Traviltar:
Wow.
Why the hell does it even matter if I have an AMD Quad core processor? Shouldn't it run just as fast a the Intel one?
I mean, sure, optimization matters, but it should just have a marginal power difference.

Differences in efficiency and manufacturing. Intel cores can generally push out more computations than AMD cores. To make up for that AMD CPUs tend to have more cores.

Shadow-Phoenix:
[...]I just remembered that my birthday was a few days ago with me having managed to save around 300 so I should probably keep that on ice until I can craft a new spec to build upon.

If you were to buy a new PC now, you could just buy Mainboard, CPU, PSU* and keep the RAM, HDD/SSD, Monitor, GPU,.... This would be a solid foundation to upgrade later on.

*I assume that your PSU is crap too after seeing the other parts. It's not necesarily that he wanted to rip you off on that one, because many people simply don't know that it's the only component you should NEVER, EVER save money on. If it fails, it can kill every other component in your configuration too. Oh yeah, and "Lots of watts != Quality PSU" is a concept many gamers haven't quite understood yet.

Shadow-Phoenix:
You're correct about all the parts and that is what makes me not so confident with this build, like taking a leap of faith for every new PC game that comes around.

It's not *that* bad, so you don't have to be afraid that you suddenly won't be able to run a game. Decrease graphics quality? Sure. Don't run it at all? Nope, not suddenly.

Deathlyphil:

GAunderrated:

To sum up my point; if steam meets all my needs why would I install origin if it doesn't do anything more that I need? Sure they are holding a few "decent" games hostage with the platform but that isn't enough to sway people such as myself.

Competition is good, monopolies are bad. That is why Origin needs to exist. It's the single biggest competitor to Steam. It has been improving greatly in the last year or so. They even had a sale a few weeks ago!

However, I do agree that it is incredibly annoying to have your gaming library spread out over multiple accounts.

Competition is good, but I (like some others) would prefer somebody who can actually compete with Valve rather than EA.
I'm not saying that Valve is perfect, because I don't think that's the case. It's just that Valve's trackrecord is the logical opposite of EA's.
I for one, would prefer Desura or GOG to become the biggest contender of Valve, because they have something to offer. DRM-Free games.

Traviltar:
Wow.
Why the hell does it even matter if I have an AMD Quad core processor? Shouldn't it run just as fast a the Intel one?
I mean, sure, optimization matters, but it should just have a marginal power difference.

An FX-4300 or 4350 doesn't touch an Ivy or Haswell i5 or i7 to be honest, and it certainly doesn't come close to any recent Socket 2011 quad-core.

AMD's FX chips current architectures are not really directly comparable, and each pair of cores functions more like a core and a half. That doesn't mean they're bad chips, and they do have some advantages, but intels quad cores are definately superior to AMD's quad cores. I'd recommend either an APU or an i5 personally at this point,s ince the AM3 socket is so stagnant.

Deathlyphil:

GAunderrated:

To sum up my point; if steam meets all my needs why would I install origin if it doesn't do anything more that I need? Sure they are holding a few "decent" games hostage with the platform but that isn't enough to sway people such as myself.

Competition is good, monopolies are bad. That is why Origin needs to exist. It's the single biggest competitor to Steam. It has been improving greatly in the last year or so. They even had a sale a few weeks ago!

However, I do agree that it is incredibly annoying to have your gaming library spread out over multiple accounts.

I agree competition is good, but I disagree that Origin is competing with Steam. At current Origin is just copying steam's model not trying to improve it. They currently are doing nothing more than holding EA games hostage through Origin. If they do something that makes people want to use Origin over Steam then it would be competition.

I honestly believe that GoG, GMG, and amazon are bigger competition for Steam than Origin. Mostly because this past year I have bought more games on sale in those 3 sites than I have even at big steam sales.

Th37thTrump3t:
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Yeah, I agree. Leave the start menu there, and code the OS to recognise a touch / non-touch device. Hell, you can even have your user tell the OS on first time setup what it is (or the OEM can hard code it in). From there, optimise the experience based on what it is. Desktops/laptops go straight to desktop mode, touch devices go to Metro.

Honestly, MS have some technically capable teams, Windows 8 is brilliant under the hood. But their vision is very clearly "by committee", rather than led by a single good visionary. And, as we've also seen with the XB1, their marketing and general PR skills are utterly abysmal.

To be frank, I'm waiting til Ubuntu get's more wide spread support from hardware manufacturers and games. I'll make the switch as soon as I see that happen.

Yeah , nah , I shan't be getting it, good to know my laptop from 5 years ago can run minimum and except for my OS.... apparently my desktop can run max, and for ongoing argument of lol what's wrong with origin, well its crap and slow and at this point hasn't steam already just won? EA has sales Im sure but they are the price slashing 70% off that steam does, nor do they as often, they aren't competition either EA only sells EA stuff and steam cant get ahold of most of EA's games to sell now that they have origin but there's another time and place for this.

Recommended OS: windows 8, HA!
instead of saying windows 7 couldn't they just leave that out

munx13:

Strazdas:
As a owner of 8600GS i want to shake my first in the air to non existing gods for them coming so close.
I really need to update get a new PC.

I have a similarly powered 9600M gs on my laptop, and I have been shaking my fist the same way since 2011. At least I'll be getting something with a GF 660-760 next month.

And now you made me jelous as it will still be half a year for me at least, and thats assuming no force majour happens meantime :(

Traviltar:
Wow.
Why the hell does it even matter if I have an AMD Quad core processor? Shouldn't it run just as fast a the Intel one?
I mean, sure, optimization matters, but it should just have a marginal power difference.

Due to new intel architecture that AMD hasnt managed to replicate yet, same clock speed single core from Intel is around 1.5 times faster. To deal with this AMD has decided to put more cores in thus trying to compete in total power. problem is - with more cores the cores have to work together. and to do that you need to program your programs to multithread properly. this is much easier with less, more pwerful, cores, like Intels. so optimizing for intel CPUs are much easier as well. also lets not forget the whole "most games run on single core" thing where 1 more powerful core is a big advantage.

Alfador_VII:

Chaos Marine:
Is Origin still a minimum requirement? If so then I can't get it then.

Origin is not that much worse than Steam. If you're willing to use Valve's service, what's your objection to Origin beyond LOL EA?

Origin can still spy on you, unless they changed that. and the argument that it shouldn't matter unless you have something to hide just doesn't hold up. There are some games I own that I have downloaded cracks for because of drm or just plain coveniance, and I don't want origin throwing a fit and banning me. why can't everyone just sell there games on gog or similar drm free service.

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