I'm having a really hard time finding a romance anime I'd enjoy. Any help in that regard?

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Bobular:
She does do it occasionally, but I think its handled quite well. She asks the main character for help at one point as she knows what she's doing is crazy and is actually pushing the other guy away but she can't help her self when she sees him even talking to another girl.

Looks like they really thought that out, then. Might be interesting to watch. I'll add it to my list. Thanks.

Drathnoxis:
Nah, I was joking with that one. You missed the white text. It fails every one of your points. I really like the show and think it's hilarious, but a good romance it is not. And it has the worst ending. If you want lighthearted comedy, Ranma's a good choice, if you want development noooooooooooooooooooooo.

Good thing you specified that. I don't know romance anime all that well, so while I can do research about the titles you're giving me to a certain extent, I'm still mostly taking your suggestions at face value, trusting you know what you're talking about.

Also, I'd like to say that I think I've got more than enough recommendations to last me a while, so no more is needed. I'd like to thank you all for providing me with such amazing help. I really didn't expect this request to go so well.

Never been a romance anime fan so probably not gonna be much help but the only 2 I have enjoyed were Spice and Wolf (which does not end conclusively) and Vandread ( which is not really a romance series but atleast had a logical if a little silly reason why the characters don't just hook up).

Let me also add my recommendations for Onegai Teacher and Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou to those others who have already mentioned these two gems. Kare Kano in particular because it explores various relationships with varying degrees of health. The main couple get together quickly but within their circle of friends, no less than 2 other couples form during the course of the show each with their own quirks. The manga stretches this out by a further 2.

One good romance I can name, that is also an ensemble cast, is Hachimitsu to Clover (Honey and Clover). Relationships that cling to the past. Relationships that stem from admiration. Love triangles where 2 of the 3 people are hard to read. The anime is a slice of life ostensibly but at its heart, romance is what drives the show.

If you want a parody of the regular romance anime and its tropes, check out Love Lab. Might not be your romance fix but I hope it will make you laugh.

Two romances from the wayback machine I can name are Miyuki and Kimagure Orange Road. The former follows a similar plot to Marmalade Boy but with a heavier focus on romance. A stepsister returns from a long stint abroad and her (unrelated by blood) stepbrother struggles with his growing feelings for her. Kimagure Orange Road is a love triangle between a man with secrets, the moody delinquent he fell for and that delinquent's best friend. The delinquent, Madoka, is supposedly the prototype Tsundere before the Tohsaka class perfected the archetype. If these sound like anime cliches to you, it is because these two anime were the ones that helped popularize them in the first place. Give it the old 3 episode watch if only to see why these tropes became so popular. Given that these were the originals, they do have much more depth than some of their successors so maybe they might suit you.

@Mechamorph

Thank you for the recommendations. Both Hachimitsu to Clover and Miyuki sound like something with potential. I'll add them to my list. As for Kimagure Orange Road, I think I'm going to skip it cause while those characters might be a little bit more fleshed out, the archetype base is still there, and it's that base that annoys me.

ninja666:

Also, I'd like to say that I think I've got more than enough recommendations to last me a while, so no more is needed. I'd like to thank you all for providing me with such amazing help. I really didn't expect this request to go so well.

Better put that in your OP if you don't want off and on recommendations for like a month.

Netoge no Yome wa Onnanoko ja Nai to Omotta?

satisfies all of your vocalized conditions.

Drathnoxis:
Better put that in your OP if you don't want off and on recommendations for like a month.

I mean, I don't need anymore for now, but at the same time, the more, the merrier. Gives me more options to pick from, too for other times.

Akytalusia:
Netoge no Yome wa Onnanoko ja Nai to Omotta?

satisfies all of your vocalized conditions.

Sounds goofy as all hell, but interesting at the same time. I'll check it out. Thanks.

ninja666:
@Mechamorph

Thank you for the recommendations. Both Hachimitsu to Clover and Miyuki sound like something with potential. I'll add them to my list. As for Kimagure Orange Road, I think I'm going to skip it cause while those characters might be a little bit more fleshed out, the archetype base is still there, and it's that base that annoys me.

Yes I can understand why tsundere can easily turn you off. It was originally based on the Japanese cultural concepts of honne and tatemae (a public and private "face") which I think Kimagure Orange Road pulled off very well. Madoka (prototype tsundere) has severe intimacy issues due to an absentee family and used to run with a rough crowd. At school, she's standoffish because she does not want to ruin her love interest's (Kyousuke) reputation. When he visits her at her part time job in a cafe, she is much warmer since she can be herself. She does love her love interest as a woman but she loves his other suitor like a sister, it is this conflict that results in her tumultuous feelings. Better yet, the other suitor is her kohai so there is a bit of the "big-sister vs little-sister" dynamic. Add on top of that a heavy class divide (Madoka is a Yamanote girl, high class while Kyosuke is from the working class) during a time when this was a much bigger thing than it is today and you have a recipe for mixed signals.

I believe that it was done well, the final confrontation comes when Madoka decides to be selfish and take her man away from her surrogate younger sister. This wrecks their relationship until they come together again several years later as adults. Even then the lingering regrets and attraction colour their relationship heavily. Can you go back to being a circle of friends when two of three are in an exclusive relationship that constantly reminds the third that she lost her first love?

Modern tsundere are mostly pretty badly done; there is little depth or complexity to them that would result in such mixed signals. Often it is just heavy denial of their feelings mixed in with a violent streak. *That* part of the tsundere archetype comes from Tendo Akane, the female lead of Ranma Nibunnoichi. That was probably why someone tried to bait you into watching it; Akane would have made your brain melt out of your ears if you hate tsundere since she was the origin of the worst parts of the stereotype. For example she walks in on someone in the shower and she decides that she should clobber him because "it is different when a girl sees a man naked (compared to when a man sees a girl)". It is a show about sociopathic comedy mostly where humor is derived from throwing your child, bound hand and foot while wrapped in fish paste, into a pit of starving cats to teach him martial arts.

Having scanned the thread, looks like there were a lot of good suggestions. Shame on Drathnoxis for trying to bait you like that! (I know he was joking, I am too ;) ) The only worse anime he could have recommended in that regard would have been Tenchi Muyo.

Strongly recommend Kare Kano (his an her circumstances). It's a romance anime by freaking Gainax so you know its good. Also, it only covers about a third of the manga so after watching it you'd wanna read up on the rest of it.

It jumps the hurdle of "will they or won't they" that most of these shows spend their entire duration on very fast and then becomes an active relationship, which I think addresses all your issues regarding lack of intimacy and tsundere heroines and the such. I won't spoil any more, I'll just say it's my fav shoujou anime in general.

Toradora!

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I heard a lot of great reviews and feedback for this Anime from my friends. I haven't watch it yet since I couldn't find great links to stream watch this. Did anyone here watch this one? help me find one... Pretty please.

InuYasha

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Got to watched this. A very nice Anime Series. Kagome is such a brave girl to begin with. So much feels when Inuyasha is thorned which to go with, is it for the resurrected Kikyo who seek revenge to him or to Kagome, who is the reincarnation of real Kikyo. I won't spoil you, get the feels when you watch it. >.<

Hana yori Dango (Boys Over Flowers)

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An Anime Manga series turned into Anime Series and into Japanese Live Series. Super famous in Japan way back years. The so-called rich-guy-poor-girl into a roller coaster of a love-hate relationship. Flower boys mean beautiful men who study in a rich-ruled university wherein money speaks for all what you do. As a weed-type girl enters the university making the Uni-go crazy. Hilarious funny, with romance and a bit of heartfelt story.

Enjoy watching! :)

I just started exploring anime myself, but I found Gamers! to be a really decent story and an interestingly funny romance that had a decent awareness of the tropes.

@fischer_elite12

Toradora's already been suggested in this thread. It's not what I'm looking for beecause it suffers from all the tropes I mentioned I don't like.

Inuyasha is also out. It's based on a manga by Rumiko Takahashi, and while she can make decent-ish quality comedy, she couldn't write good romance even if her life depended on it.

Boys Over Flowers sounds more like something I'd like, but at the same time, the whole setup sounds a little bit too shojo-y for my taste. I'll consider it, though.

Thanks for the recommendations.

@kitsunefather

Sorry, but it's not what I'm looking for. I don't want "decent awareness of the tropes". I want there to be very little, or ideally none of those tropes. Thanks anyway.

Well, as an anime connoisseur you may have seen it, but I really like The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. It's one of my favourite animes, more generally, in fact, It's the weirdest contrast between the completely mundane and the completely bizarre. It's sort of comedy and slice of life meets sci fi. I'd still class it as romance though, although it's not overt throughout. I think a couple of those criteria you didn't want are in there, but in a sort of weird quirky way, so I don't think you'll notice at all.

Plus you can't argue with that theme song...

Its not romance, but have you seen Blue Seed. The couple of the main characters is reversed from your 1st gripe. The female is the awkward, shy, and dense one. The man is the "cool" character but is focused on other matters, aloof, and well... pretty dense in his own right. Other than that though, most of the other stereotypes do apply. But if you take the focus off the main characters (who are just teenagers and aren't all relationship things with teens pretty stereotypical and uninteresting) the adult members of the cast have far more interesting relationships with completely different problems. A manchild who never really grew up being thrust into a position of responsibility he's not ready for develops a reluctant relationship with a gun freak tomboy who has a problem with authority figures, a woman in probably not in her 30's yet who is seriously crushing on a guy easily in his late 50's, a career woman trying to reconnect with an ex husband to bring her family closer together.

Of course the focus is on the teen main characters who are annoyingly... teens. And just annoying in several other ways. And it isn't a romance story, what with all the monster fighting. But I like the team dynamic and pressures, the older animation cell style, the omaki shorts, and the tie-ins with many aspects of Japanese folklore. And... it ends. It doesn't draw out and go on forever. It tells a story, and finishes it.

It starts slow, but it does it for a good reason. The first dozen episodes each focus on a member of the cast to introduce them to the audience. And then the characters develop from there.

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