Stolen Pixels #174: Better Than Aquaman

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Cash, you're cruising for an artificial heart in addition to that hook hand.

(Cash = the guard, for the uninformed, go read "Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth".)

Well, I like what they've done with Batman (at least in terms of pitting his abilities against villains), giving him good planning skills, Charles Atlus' Superpower as well as a heap of weapons to fight crime.

I'm not quite as sold on making Superman more mortal though. What's wrong with being overpowered? I can type "~tgm" in Oblivion and still have heaps of fun.

Superman may have been a more powerful hero, but Batman had much better writing.

Seriously. I recently read a back issue of Supergirl. That was the most horrible thing I have ever read that wasn't good because it was horrible. The side stories about Prez (a kind of nerdy United States President) and others were even worse.

The message of the comic was very simple and not very demonstrative: the kid President, who wanted to restrict gun use by law, learned that love and peace "won't solve everything" (not very good in hindsight, because war and hatred have worked out SO well for the second-most powerful nation in the world). The anti-hippy sentiment was strong in the Prez story, as the DC comics of that era were very conservative in message... and Superman was probably the most obviously conservative.

At least Batman didn't avoid the fact that being a vigilante means that you may become as bad as the villains. I like that realist side to the comics.

This got me thinking, seeing how all of batmans powers comes from his gear, wouldn't the dreaded aquaman (or submariner, theres 2 lame heroes who fights underwater crime) be stronge rthan batman, seeing as he could just get the same gadgets, and still have the added bonus of aquatic powers?

paragon1:

warbaloon:

paragon1:
And yet they still haven't made a good Superman game. Why do you suppose that is?

No challenge

Maybe if they went with God-level pre-Crisis Superman, but there would be at least some if they tone down his powers just a tad. Or maybe the challenge could be a "not shattering the earth into cosmic dust everytime you fart" time situation?

no, because story drives games for most. The challenge should be made by the villains. And good villains make for good superheroes which, in turn, should make for a good game's foundation. Superman is already at a loss for that. His villains suckass. And don't gimme that kevin spacey lex luthor "wrong!" business either. Superman is just flat-out horrible, and nothing will save him.

ldbmikey86:

paragon1:

warbaloon:

paragon1:
And yet they still haven't made a good Superman game. Why do you suppose that is?

No challenge

Maybe if they went with God-level pre-Crisis Superman, but there would be at least some if they tone down his powers just a tad. Or maybe the challenge could be a "not shattering the earth into cosmic dust everytime you fart" time situation?

no, because story drives games for most. The challenge should be made by the villains. And good villains make for good superheroes which, in turn, should make for a good game's foundation. Superman is already at a loss for that. His villains suckass. And don't gimme that kevin spacey lex luthor "wrong!" business either. Superman is just flat-out horrible, and nothing will save him.

Whoah there guy. Calm the fuck down.
Two things: First, that movie sucked. Second, Superman doesn't suck, and I think the fact that he's one of the oldest characters in fiction still being made backs me up on that.

AvsJoe:
Hehehe... I wonder if Batman gets this a lot. I mean, no offense to the DK here but if I'm being attacked by a gang who wish to mug and kill me, I'd prefer Supes over Wayne any day.

paragon1:
And yet they still haven't made a good Superman game. Why do you suppose that is?

What about Superman 64? That game was great! It was a... a...

Okay, I can't say that with a straight face. My stepbrother owned that game and even though I was 10 and still enjoyed crappy kid-themed TV shows and movies, I still knew I was in the presence of crap!

Yeah, it takes an extra special kind of crap to dissatisfy a ten year old.

Ouch, that one stings.

Of course, Batman wouldn't stand a chance.
But he's still infinitely more badass and relatable, so he's the number one superhero of Evar.
(for me)

Although I kinda wish Alex Mercer was just a superpowered guy with a nice jacket who wasn't a complete asshole and didn't eat people just for the hell of it.

The Batman vs. Superman debate seems to be more of a platform for seeing which character you like opposed to the other.

But! Yeah. Batman is easier to relate to because he's more human and blah blah blah... this has been covered a few times at this point.

I do agree with the comment about Superman having bad villains, though. But maybe that's because I tend to not read superhero comics--the plots I've heard about are just ridiculous. With that in mind: the only villain Supes had that I ever had any interest in was Live Wire, which was probably because she was voiced by Lori Petty and had an episode with Harley Quinn. In the Batman animated series. Not to say that Batman didn't have some odd ones. Baby Doll? What on earth was that? Other than kinda creepy, I mean.

...Geez, I've been rambling on for way too long about this, huh?

I always prefer Batman than Superman, Batman fills more human.

Sir Kemper:
It could be worse....

He could be robin...

So true.

Hilarious comic, as always.

Sir Kemper:
It could be worse....

He could be robin...

Lay off of Robin! He has the power of Social Networking!

I don't know what you're all talking about, Batman has the greatest superpower of all.

Money.

Ah... another Superman is better than Batman thread. ... Although to be fair, this is a balanced one. Really liked that video link someone posted above. I might disagree, but it was still funny.

For me, the quintessential difference is the worlds the two inhabit.
Superman is lovely sci-fi lite Utopian Metropolis, Gotham being the more brutally realistic, and yes, slightly dystopian, vision of the urban landscape. Superman cannot work as a story in Gotham, and Batman cannot work Metropolis.

For me, personally, the matter was settled in The Dark Knight Returns. Say what you like about Miller, or Batman, that show down rocked. I'd say more, but I'm conscious of spoilers.

Personally, I kind of dislike Superman. I don't hate the character, but it's not like he ever has to push himself, is it?
Batman planned, and planned, and planned that showdown in Crime Alley, whereas Supes just showed up expecting everyone to behave like gentlemen and for Batman to allow him to crush his skull/defeat him and incarcerate him. For me, he's extremely limited as a character, although occasionally something like Red Sun will come out and entertain and challenge me.

To be honest, Superman is way too much the poster boy of "The American way" (whatever that's supposed to really mean) whereas Batman's more grounded genuinely more interesting dark avenger character trait make him far more satisfying to read about than an omnipotent man in spandex.

Story and character are always more interesting than the ability to flash fry an egg by looking at it. Superman? Gimmickman would work better.

Shamus Young:
Stolen Pixels #174: Better Than Aquaman

Sometimes, you just have to settle for the less-super-hero.

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A guy who hates batman. How friggin' original.

Woops!

I forgot I posted here.

I love this comic strip by the way :D

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