Zero Punctuation: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II

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Add me to those who still like Star Wars. Enough good stuff still comes out for the franchise that his statement of "Who still likes Star Wars" comes off as "I never liked it in the first place". This is kinda like Yahtzee's Wii reviews. They can be amusing but, given his bias against the subject, his complaints are both repetitive and to be taken with a grain of salt.

Although, in the case of TFU2, he's right on the money. Fortunately, I didn't spend a dime to find that out.

Hard to be surprised by that review. Everyone's been ripping on it, even those that love Star Wars and liked the first game.

I'm at a loss for what happened. The usual Yahtzee ribbing over things we usualy overlook in videeogames but are actualy kinda dumb aside, the game was still fun to play and looked and sounded great. Then you beat the game and we're left wondering if this was DLC they expanded into a game, or (as many of us have feared with DLC) was this intentionaly cut back to sell things as DLC. (Heck, the first DLC pack will take us to endor, showing that DLC has the added benefit of inserting levels without having to write a story around them like usual). And the story this time, god knows how they got a novel out of it, because it felt like a one shot fanfic. Heck, why the direct sequal? Starkiller realy have that big a following? The same game engine could easially be adapted to any star wars setting so why insult our intelegence here? Too many clone war and old republic games? Not enough creativity to propely visualize things from the New Jedi Order?

The worst part: the way both light and dark side endings went, we can expect a Force Unleashed 3 to establish a final fate for Starkiller (and possibly undoing the effects of the light side ending.)

HankMan:
Force lightning is EVERYBODY's weakness?
That's....
*puts on sun glasses*
Shocking
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

You win at the comments

OT: This was one of the funniest ever, and last weeks was one of the most entertaining ever. Go for a hat trick, Yahtzee!

eyedonutkair:

Kulingile:

eyedonutkair:

Agreed. Why not review less popular games that are actually fun to play. I'd give you a list of games I think should be reviewed, but I think I'll put out the flames before they're posted. >.>

Well didn't Yahtzee say that people didn't like it when he talked positively about a game, like his review of Psychonauts. Most people enjoy watching a game get torn to shreds.

Good point. In that case, however, why did he review a game that everyone already knew sucked? :P lol

Because, when Yahtzee reviews a game that everyone knows sucks or a game (like a JRPG) that everyone knows Yahtzee will hate, they expect the review to be hilarious cause then Yahtzee has more ammo to use against the game in order to rip the game a new one.

KOTOR is arguably one of the only good things about Star Wars!? For me it's pretty much the only damn thing that is.

I loved the first TFU, but it ended in a way that made a sequel an incredibly stupid idea, even with clone logic. Honestly, why would Lucasarts think I would hand over $65 for a half-ass sequel to a game that needed no sequel? Especially since I could get a 95% similar experience from playing Infamous? And Infamous was a much better game than the first TFU.

Most powerfully broken thing in Starwars pshh, you should read the books about Luke Skywalker...

Meh Starwars isn't all that bad the books are actually great (okay fine the last great one was the Dark Empire series which was 15 years ago, well the Vong war was kinda good in some parts).

As for the game itself, yeah it's shitty, I found the first one interesting enough to make me finish it, but I'd say that to just about any video game. This one of the other hand isn't even worth borrowing from a friend.

tfu2 reaaaaaly sucks ass...if it was more crap, the deathstar would shoot crap instead of lasers...
Are you doing super meat boy too?:D

Thick:

You can't make a statement like "it's still a good franchise" and then ignore a ton of the material that makes up the franchise.

Yes I can. The alphabet is full of vowels, if you ignore all the consonants. See?

That's dangerously close to the definition of denial. Thanks for proving his point.

By agreeing with him that it sucked? and that Padme and Annakin were wooden. Yeah....No, I don't see what you're on about.

The clone wars tv series has alot of moments

Rougue Squadron on the N64 also deserves to be alongside KotOR on the good end of the scale.

Fairs fair, most Star Wars is crap, but theres no need to exaggerate now.

Haha great review Yahtzee, lots of laughs. I totally agree - the Star Wars franchise beyond the first 2 movies are pretty bollocks. Sure there may be some nuggets around, but the rest of the puke pretty much puts me off even looking at anything with Star Wars in the name lol.

Funny review, however I am one of the Star Wars fanboys. I just don't think Yahtzee likes any games, which is why I enjoy watching ZP.

So no matter what he says about the game, I will still be playing it, as I will probably find it enjoyable.

Hurray, Zero Punctuation is reviewing games again. You had me worried after that New vegas debacle.

Brendondm:
Funny review, however I am one of the Star Wars fanboys. I just don't think Yahtzee likes any games, which is why I enjoy watching ZP.

He liked Portal
The Silent Hill series
He liked BioShock
He like Half-life (I think)
He likes the original Prince of Persia trilogy.

You know Yahtzee, you probably could have used your "like God of War but" stamp for this game. Same free-falling sequence, same QTE style, same ridiculously overpowered main protagonist (give or take a few emotions), same thing were you get very powerful after murdering enough girl-scouts and stealing their cookies for power and experience. If you ask me (which you probably won't) it isn't like God of War, it is God of War.

If you're looking for a good Star Wars game, look no further than Jedi Outcast. Jedi Acadamy had a more polished combat system but the story wasn't as good.

KOTOR was alright.

I never really got into any of the Star Wars games...maybe BattleFront if I'm in a good mood. But when my friend was showing me Unleashed 1...I instantly disliked it...Repetition is not a good game! Why can't they get this through their head. Don't make me go through the same thing twice with different scenery! Also, lol at death by banged shins.

I actually loved the first one until the story did the usual EU retconning. I mean seriously, it's fine making up stuff where you have none previously (like how the rebellion started) but don't change whats already been established. I have a few problems with the first game but playing wise it was kind of fun. It did make you feel like a Jedi some, and that was the point. I'll probably actually get the second one whenever I get my ps3 fixed.

I think I've worked out something in these forums: Regardless what the post was, the first two-three people who post on a Zero Punctuation thread get Probation. I would ask why, but then I'm always too lazy to be "F1RST P0ST" so it doesn't bother me.

Anyhow, I do hope that this is a sign of what's to come when "Star Wars: The Old Republic" finally comes out (though I can see that becoming an "Ignore on principle" game).

LucasArts used to produce great games (Dark Force, X-Wing Series through to X-Wing Alliance) and of course its adventure games (Grim Fandango, Monkey Island, Full Throttle).

Then ...something happened. Its like all the brains and creative talent just up and left.

KOTOR was great. KOTOR wasnt because, unfortunately, it was released unfinished since it was rushed out for some unknown reason.

That can also be seen with the movies.

The first three (well ...maybe not so much Return of the Jedi) were awesome and still are. Even the ...ugh ...super special awesome editions of them.

The prequels were awful. Absolutely awful.

I am a Star Wars fan. I read the books. I play the Star Wars RPG as well with mates. However - I am always more than happy to be critical of something which is just crap.

That's the difference between being a Star Wars fan ...and fanboy (or fanboi).

I did not buy Force Unleashed. I will not be buying Force Unleashed II.

Star Wars Galaxies was crap. I am, however, looking forward to playing The Old Republic MMORPG (Bioware - the makers of KOTOR - are doing it so that's reason enough).

I agree with "Jack and Calumon" the audio just wasn't up to the usual standard and it forced me to be annoyed all they way through, it wasn't until i watched it a second time i could actually appreciate the jokes.

I'm going to have a guess and say that Yatzee was a bit busy this week and had to rush the audio through but still a monkey with a kazoo would have sounded better even while being stabbed from behind by a midget with a measuring tape.

I still very much love Star Wars, but TFU2 is complete rubbish.

Stuntkid:
at least i now got my friend's riddle on "what does sonic and star wars have in common?".

they both stagnate

Nice one, love all these videos. I played the first for like an hour and couldn't get into it. I disagree with you on the clone wars movie though, if you get passed Anakin getting his new padawan and their random romance interest thing that looks like he'll kick Padme out, it's still awesome star wars junk... Who am I kidding? Jabba the Hutt jr.? His flamboyant uncle? T-T

The series on Cartoon Network isn't nearly as bad... And Battlefront 2 is one of my favorite games still! Episode 2 and 3 were good to imo, except the romance junk that ended up taking over most of the time.

Not G. Ivingname:

Yahtzee Croshaw:
Snip

Did you play this game on the Wii like last time or did you go with the 360/PS3 one (as I assume you did)? Ironically, from what I understand from other reviewers that burned the HD console port to a crisp, that the game on the Wii is at least tolerable, even if it badly written and padded like the rest of the versians.

I rather doubt him making the same mistake again, and he shows a PS3-controller when referring to it as a game as opposed to learning to operate heavy machinery.

Anyway, I had a great laugh. I think Yahtzee's reviews where he lets the tsunami hatred flow freely offer the best entertainment.

Azaraxzealot:

in the meantime, im going to spend my hard-earned money on good games like Just Cause 2 and Red Dead Redemption

Do you intend to finish Just Cause 2 100%? Because I do

if your a true star wars fan you hate the prequels and force unleashed two looks boring and short

LockandKey:

Brendondm:
Funny review, however I am one of the Star Wars fanboys. I just don't think Yahtzee likes any games, which is why I enjoy watching ZP.

He liked Portal
The Silent Hill series
He liked BioShock
He like Half-life (I think)
He likes the original Prince of Persia trilogy.

It's probably pointless; people are always going to use "it's just a comedy" as a safety-blanket whenever Yahtzee says something they don't like.

hehehe good one.

I played the PSN demo, and while it was pretty fun slaughtering hordes of storm troopers, your character did feel WAYYYY too overpowered. There was no challenge to it at all. I had considered maybe it was only this way in the demo, but from all I've heard (elsewhere, not just here), it's like that the entire way through. I only died once from falling off a platform because I wasn't sure where to jump.

But even in the shortness of the demo, the game felt pretty dull and repetitive. As fun as it was, I don't think I could tolerate playing it for more than an hour. It was a novelty type of fun, not a really deep-seeded fun. Once the novelty wears off you are left with nothing.

Fronzel:

LockandKey:

Brendondm:
Funny review, however I am one of the Star Wars fanboys. I just don't think Yahtzee likes any games, which is why I enjoy watching ZP.

He liked Portal
The Silent Hill series
He liked BioShock
He like Half-life (I think)
He likes the original Prince of Persia trilogy.

It's probably pointless; people are always going to use "it's just a comedy" as a safety-blanket whenever Yahtzee says something they don't like.

And they do. Although he seems to have gotten better lately. His New Vegas episode got into a real interesting aspect of WRPGs, the fact that there isn't really much roleplay unless Bioware is involved.

Repetitive action, overpowered protagonist, terribly short.

Yep, if you liked the first game, youŽll LOVE TFU2.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Thick:

You can't make a statement like "it's still a good franchise" and then ignore a ton of the material that makes up the franchise.

Yes I can. The alphabet is full of vowels, if you ignore all the consonants. See?

That's dangerously close to the definition of denial. Thanks for proving his point.

By agreeing with him that it sucked? and that Padme and Annakin were wooden. Yeah....No, I don't see what you're on about.

But the alphabet ISN'T full of vowels.

If you have to ignore the presence of everything you think is shit in the Star Wars franchise, to pretend it doesn't exist, to DENY its inclusion in the franchise... there's more than one sort of denial is what I'm getting at. Burying things that you don't like and pretending they aren't a part of your little pocket universe is one of them.

McDonalds is a good restaurant if you deny everything except for the functioning soda fountain.

My marriage is a good one if you deny the constant fighting, screaming, and abuse.

I'm getting good grades in school if you deny those seven Fs and focus on that one B.

That is a brand new car because it has brand new floor mats, pay no attention to the smoke, smell, torn upholstery, and the clanking from the engine.

But far be it for me to force cognitive dissonance upon you.

Thick:

But far be it for me to force cognitive dissonance upon you.

Far be it indeed. I just think there's good in three movies that's ruined in other parts. You seem to be suffering from quite an awful set of problems. Perhaps you should look at how you seem to be holding conflicting ideas simultaneously, especially if your marriage is in that much trouble.

By the way, you can't actually force cognitive dissonance. That's a paradigm you create inside yourself from belief disconfirmation, among other reasons.

Antonio Torrente:

Azaraxzealot:

in the meantime, im going to spend my hard-earned money on good games like Just Cause 2 and Red Dead Redemption

Do you intend to finish Just Cause 2 100%? Because I do

because im a time-whore... no XD
but ill enjoy attaching people to random shit and laughing about it XD
why can't Force Unleashed 2 have that kind of fun? :D

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