Critical Miss: A Parable

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QuadFish:
I can't say I've played enough RE to really know what you're getting at. Isn't RE4 meant to be like that sandwich that has some extra mayonnaise on it because the chef loves you?

On another note, seems it pays to be up at 2:00 some days :)

EDIT: That soda can seems VERY familiar...

Well, not really. Merely adding extra mayo would imply that the sandwich was sound to begin with. That's where the "shit" part of the "turkey and shit sandwich" comes into play. They took out what was considered to be fundamentally flawed, again the "shit" part, and it became a fundamentally sound sandwich, the "turkey sandwich."

RE fans got used to the flavour and complained that it was missing.

Great! now I NEVER wanna have a turkey sandwich ever again! Thanks Guys!

OT: That shit is very realistically drawn....TOO realistic.

GrizzlerBorno:
Great! now I NEVER wanna have a turkey sandwich ever again! Thanks Guys!

OT: That shit is very realistically drawn....TOO realistic.

I didn't think it was realistic enough. It kind of just looks like a bavarian sausage.

Spark Ignition:

QuadFish:
I can't say I've played enough RE to really know what you're getting at. Isn't RE4 meant to be like that sandwich that has some extra mayonnaise on it because the chef loves you?

On another note, seems it pays to be up at 2:00 some days :)

Thats the point, most people see it as RE without everything people hated about RE, and yet the fans still hated it for changing it up.

I like RE4 but it was too.... James-Bondy.
I preferred the older games like RE2 or Code V that actually had atmosphere as opposed to non-stop action.

Surely we're past arguing about RE4/vs RE original though? I mean come on, we've got good ole racist RE5 to bicker about now!

I honestly saw no problem with RE4, it was a great change that Capcom made....aside from the Dante one (Suppressing rage for the release date to actually judge)

For me the game offered up a great experience and still had my adrenaline flowing at times due to certain enemies.

By far my personal favorite of the series to display the fact that, No matter how badass Leon Kennedy is he can still get his silly ass murdered.

ESPECIALLY LOVED THE DEATH SEQUENCES AT TIMES

Onyx Oblivion:
Never did beat RE4.

Stupid scratched disc!

I was so close to the end on the Wii version, too!

that's no excuse! i've beaten the game 3 times now!

as for the comic, i am fortunate that Resi4 was my first. though i still managed to enjoy the others, especially Resi2, though obviously it's nowhere near the level of awesome that was Resi4.

Grey Carter:

GrizzlerBorno:
Great! now I NEVER wanna have a turkey sandwich ever again! Thanks Guys!

OT: That shit is very realistically drawn....TOO realistic.

I didn't think it was realistic enough. It kind of just looks like a bavarian sausage.

Thanks now you've ruined sausage for me forever.... *Cries in the corner*

Grey Carter:

GrizzlerBorno:
Great! now I NEVER wanna have a turkey sandwich ever again! Thanks Guys!

OT: That shit is very realistically drawn....TOO realistic.

I didn't think it was realistic enough. It kind of just looks like a bavarian sausage.

Aaaaand now i never wanna have a Bavarian Sausage......WHATEVER that is. It might just be the best sausage in the whole world! but I'll Never Know, cause you had to ruin it for me.
Seriously Carter. Cut that out.
And keep up the outstanding work. That too.

Ashcrexl:

Onyx Oblivion:
Never did beat RE4.

Stupid scratched disc!

I was so close to the end on the Wii version, too!

that's no excuse! i've beaten the game 3 times now!

as for the comic, i am fortunate that Resi4 was my first. though i still managed to enjoy the others, especially Resi2, though obviously it's nowhere near the level of awesome that was Resi4.

I dunno. I consider a broken game disc, without any copies in any nearby stores to be a pretty good excuse.

Let's all remember the Jill Sandwich for 5 seconds.

Alternate explanation:
"He's playing it on PC."

Good grief, the PC controls for RE4 are sucky...

First off; ew!

Second; Really? That's the explaination you're going for? Was saying "he has poor taste" just too simple and clean? ...Actually, saying that makes me understand the choice now.

Well, I guess you can walk away now, and you won't hear me say "please oh baby, don't go" ... damn it!

I have been seeing a profound lack of Charles in recent comics.

Hey, the bird is gone, the last time it was gone, too!

aaaahhh, I saw it... code veronica special lol

another good one

Therumancer:
...why did say "Resident Evil 4" need the Resident Evil label? I mean the game is set in europe, doesn't involve zombies, and has little or no relevence to "Racoon City" or much of the lore in the universe except what was tacked on sloppily to justify it's sequelhood. Why not make the game a new title other than marketing?

Marketing was the only reason. Commercialism often degrades art in this manner.

If RE4 was an original story, it could have had an ending rather than "something has apparently happened that will be important later! Buy the next game!"

What can I say? I just love pre-rendered backgrounds and fix'd camera angles.

The jump to 3D just made me more aware of how fabricated the game's world was.

They didn't reduce the amount of shit, they just changed the type of shit. If older ones were horseshit sandwiches, 4 was a bullshit sandwich and people just didn't like the new shit. On the other hand, 5 wasn't a sandwich anymore - it was pure bullshit.

Well, I can only say that RE4 was a delicious sandwich with little shit on it, but RE5 was a turd without the sandwich.

In fact... it was a Jill Sandwich.

The Jimi Hendrix reference made me feel warm and fuzzy.

I know this sounds like I'm being disgusting just because, but I'm curious... on how to actually make a shit and turkey sandwich. I mean do you prepare the sandwich and then squat over it and lay on the extra ingredient? Or do you drop the bomb previously and let it dry to become more crispy? And what if the chef is sick? It wouldn't have the same consistency. (or whatever) Still I liked the daily specials joke :)

Blue Hedgehog: Daily shit.
Code V: Little Shit.
Dead Aim: Lots of shit.
:)

Also I don't think I've ever typed the other word for feces so much and so close together :P

RE4 and RE5 are completely different gameplay-wise(and also story-wise, when it coms to RE4) from the "classic" RE games, so I don't see how they could really be compared, since it's more of a matter of taste than anything.

I like RE4, and I like the classic RE-games (some more than others), but I like them for completely different reasons.

The Real Sandman:

However, one thing I'll disagree with is the huge praise RE4 gets for its horror. Its pretty scary around the beginning, but once you find the shotgun and some grenades, then it becomes an extremely weird shooter. That didn't bother me (were still some parts that creeped the shit outa me), it was still fun as hell at least! But when people say "past RE game were scarier and more atmospheric", that's just not true. Yeah you can say how RE pioneered the horror genre, but all the games pretty much relied on jump out scares and surprise attacks as opposed to true psychological endurance as practiced by Silent Hill 2 and Condemned: Criminal Origins. Besides, a game/movie/book/whatever can be as atmospheric as possible, but if it has a completely retarded and convoluted story and characters you want to flog every time they open their mouths, then everything just falls apart because we can't connect with situation due to it's inconsistencies and lack of any logic.

I think you got it a little wrong on the last bit. The 'horror' may be more or less the same between the old and new Resident Evil games, both rely more on the 'surprise' jump out of the closet scares. What differentiates the two however is the suspense, not the movie or book type created by atsmosphere or mood, again the two sides are more or less the same here, but in an area unique to video games: the survival game. In the old, ammo was scarce and the ability to save games was not only limited but few and far between. Death was heavily punished and conservation a must, this creates a sort of suspense through the game not because that next zombie might scare you but rather it could screw you over and set you back. In Resident Evil 4, ammo was plentiful and you could easily restart any room without punishment. If you screw up you get unlimited quick do overs, and personally there were parts of the game where I needed at least a dozen of them... that really kills any possibility for suspense.

For a better example of this, see Demon's Soul. There's been a real hole on the market for this sort of suspensfull gameplay as all the big titles are being made more streamlined and forgiving, and that's probably why Demon's Soul sold so well.

The punchline to today's comic was brilliant. Well done, good sirs.

Can't agree more with the metaphor. The **** is still there but nowhere near as bad in pre RE4.

well, I just don't eat these sandwiches :P

lol thats awesome. It's true to which is sad.

A pretty good illustration of the "They changed it, now it sucks!" principle as it applies to gaming.

Also RE4 was the best one in the "main" series of the franchise.

RE4 was a good game. Just not a good Resident Evil game.

The Real Sandman:
This. This visual metaphor of a person ingesting human fecal matter via a sandwich sums it up.

It really shocked at first me how much hate RE4 got from fans. "Oh never mind the the ridiculously improved controls, interface, puzzles, and pacing, THEY RUINED TEH STORY AND MAED IT IN2 A SHOOTER!"

"Ruined the story"? Yeah, the story was already ruined the by the time RE3 was released and before that it was cheesier than a Voltron episode draped in fondue. While not great or original, RE4's story was very enjoyable to me. On accounts that it had practically nothing to do with the original (bat shit insane) cannon and it went about things deliberately self aware. With the added bonuses of likable protagonists, some funny lines of dialog, and a coherent and easy to follow plot and you got yourself a very well executed story.

However, one thing I'll disagree with is the huge praise RE4 gets for its horror. Its pretty scary around the beginning, but once you find the shotgun and some grenades, then it becomes an extremely weird shooter. That didn't bother me (were still some parts that creeped the shit outa me), it was still fun as hell at least! But when people say "past RE game were scarier and more atmospheric", that's just not true. Yeah you can say how RE pioneered the horror genre, but all the games pretty much relied on jump out scares and surprise attacks as opposed to true psychological endurance as practiced by Silent Hill 2 and Condemned: Criminal Origins. Besides, a game/movie/book/whatever can be as atmospheric as possible, but if it has a completely retarded and convoluted story and characters you want to flog every time they open their mouths, then everything just falls apart because we can't connect with situation due to it's inconsistencies and lack of any logic.

Thank you.

I will never have an appetite ever again.

coldfrog:
Something about actually showing the sandwich makes this one all the more disgusting. I love it! But I just can't seem to get the taste of turkey out of my mouth.

Also, those lips are very Groening-esque in panel 2.

But that's what makes this comic so good. They are willing to show you the real shit!

Utterly disgusting, yet highly edifying

Only reason why Res4 could be considered less shitty would be improved gameplay mechanics, But in the meantime sandvich should be filled with shit for somehow making totally obscure zombie horror stories over the edge where it just becomes silly. Also change is genre from horror to action game isn't an improvement, to me that is.

I commend you guys for this excellent metaphor. There are some games where the shit is necessary. Remember how upset people got over Final Fantasy XII and its lack of standing in a straight line patiently while enemies beat their faces in? Remember how people complained when they switch from CDs to DVDs so that they didn't have to change disks every couple hours while playing? People love shit, as long as it's familiar shit.

If I was Steve, I would learn to cook for myself posthaste. Or move to another town with better restaurants. Yeah, yeah, I know. Smacking the shit out of that metaphor....

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