Review: Pokémon Black & White Versions

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Argh, I went down to EB yesterday to get this, and it turns out it's not out in Australia for another four days :P
How I do hate the video game industry in Australia...

I've decided to skip this generation, but it sounds pretty good.

But the evil guys being a protest group against animal cruelty? That doesn't seem very evil.

So we get to crush PETA? YAY!
Now I am interested.

Got White just now, and am already racing out into the new world with my Snivy, which I nicknamed, rather aptly in my honest opinion, Smugleaf. It's awesome!!

I miss eevee too >.<

emeraldrafael:
You know what I noticed reading through this again (like, actually reading through. the first time I mainly skimmed cause I was in a hurry)?

They didnt talk about the Dream World, or the way pokemon will get new natures through it.

Because you can't access it yet, not until March 30th anyway

Yeah, on the second page, it has a pikachu on the huge billboard, and I'm pretty sure that's not "well after you've beaten the game."

I picked up a copy of Black this morning. This is my first go at a Poke'mon game, looking forward to it.

I chose Tepig and nicknamed him "Baconator". Already digging this game a lot.

Irridium:

Serris:

Irridium:

Yeah I know. But I don't feel like buying another DS. Plus then I wouldn't be able to play my GBA games.

then why do you ask if it can use wepconnection, when you KNOW it's the ds that's responsible for the encryption :S

Sorry, should have been more clear. I meant that I recently found out SoulSilver could use WPA, and that it was the DS itself that was the problem.

ah, like so.
maybe you can use a public hotspot somewhere to do your trading?

Got the game at midnight at the local supermarket, which is awesome because the Gamestop nearby isnt even open at midnight, not even for midnight releases for big games.

Serris:

Irridium:

Serris:

then why do you ask if it can use wepconnection, when you KNOW it's the ds that's responsible for the encryption :S

Sorry, should have been more clear. I meant that I recently found out SoulSilver could use WPA, and that it was the DS itself that was the problem.

ah, like so.
maybe you can use a public hotspot somewhere to do your trading?

Yeah, thats pretty much my only option, short of buying a new DS. But I figure since the 3DS can play DS games, I'll just get that instead.

I picked up a copy of Pokemon Black this morning, and have already sunk about 6 and a half hours into it. What sucks is I have school work I should be doing, but this is the first Pokemon game I've bought (actually bought, I've played roms of others) in a long time and it's exciting.

There's more emphasis on story, I didn't have to name my rivals (which I like because it gives the characters a more defined personality),

My favorite thing though is that EVERY Pokemon I've come in contact with has been new and interesting, and challenging. I find myself in trainer battles when I see the name of the Pokemon that's next thinking, "ok, now what the hell is this thing going to be? should I change Pokemon too? Hmm..." and I love it. It's keeping me on my toes.

Never owned a Pokemon game before. Bought Black and White (gonna give White to a friend) on Friday. Addicted already. Easy to play for a beginner, and I'm slowly getting the hang of the "rock-paper-scissors" mechanic.

Really enjoying it. My Oshawott just evolved into Dewott as well. So proud of him. :)

Eri:

GeorgW:
Nice review, but you forgot one important aspect, Which is better, Black or White??

Hyper-space:

TMs can be used infinitely

Back.The.Fuck.Off.

Nothing will be the same.

This cannot be true. I call fake.

It's true. Not fake at all.

OH M LORD! That almost made me cum :D

I just cant wait...1 week and the game comes here...but then ill have to wait for the 3DS X_X

Bloodstain:
So we get to crush PETA? YAY!
Now I am interested.

Yup, that's the vibe I got when I started playing today. Just like PETA, they say they are for the ethical treatment of animals, but in the end they do a lot of things that aren't ethical and end up hurting animals.

Azmael Silverlance:

OH M LORD! That almost made me cum :D

I just cant wait...1 week and the game comes here...but then ill have to wait for the 3DS X_X

Why would you have to wait for the 3DS? You don't have a one of the other DS types to play it on, or is your 3DS waiting a separate thing from the game waiting?

I definitely love the infinite TMs. The first one I got was from beating the first gym. It is a nice move that raises the attack and special attack of the user. I used it on three of the 5 members of the team I have so far.

PseudoDuck:
Never owned a Pokemon game before. Bought Black and White (gonna give White to a friend) on Friday. Addicted already. Easy to play for a beginner, and I'm slowly getting the hang of the "rock-paper-scissors" mechanic.

Really enjoying it. My Oshawott just evolved into Dewott as well. So proud of him. :)

Ah a newbie. Well the rock-paper-scissors mechanic will become more complicated, because eventually you will have encountered all 17 types and how some have multiple weaknesses and strengths, though it still goes deeper than those types.

They haven't changed anything; all they've done is give a new mask to old, tired and worn out mechanics and Pokemon.

Replacing Geodude with Rockdude (just an example to make a point) doesn't mean there's no rock pokemon you find every three steps in a cave - it just has a new bloody name.

Old crap, new paint.

Eico:
They haven't changed anything; all they've done is give a new mask to old, tired and worn out mechanics and Pokemon.

Replacing Geodude with Rockdude (just an example to make a point) doesn't mean there's no rock pokemon you find every three steps in a cave - it just has a new bloody name.

Old crap, new paint.

Totally wrong. It sounds like you haven't played the game, so you can't judge.

I've played every generation of game, and there are always new things. Though I'd say that this generation feels the newest.

John Funk:
Review: Pokémon Black & White Versions

Another evolution.

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I don't know how far you've got into the game, but will players eventually get more storage boxes? Because I only saw 8 and that is only enough for 240, though I'm guessing that I will get more after I unlock the ability to get the past generation Pokemon.

Besides the fact that the control system requiring you to alternate between the d-pad, buttons, and touch screen, this game is awesome. All of the AI tactics that you could exploit to easily win matches have been fixed. It pisses me off, because the game is way harder, but I love it.

Stoic raptor:

I would love to get White, but I really do not have the money. And if I did, I am saving it for something else. I would probably get it when it becomes cheaper, like every single game I get. I wonder if my DS lite is able to play it?

Why wouldn't it run on your DS lite? It runs just fine on my DS lite.

subtlefuge:
Besides the fact that the control system requiring you to alternate between the d-pad, buttons, and touch screen, this game is awesome. All of the AI tactics that you could exploit to easily win matches have been fixed. It pisses me off, because the game is way harder, but I love it.

Aargh, yes! I hate that I have to press X to get the menu to save an look at my team. I wish it was like Heart Gold where the menu was on the bottom touch screen where I could just quickly use the stylus.

Sonic Doctor:

Eico:
They haven't changed anything; all they've done is give a new mask to old, tired and worn out mechanics and Pokemon.

Replacing Geodude with Rockdude (just an example to make a point) doesn't mean there's no rock pokemon you find every three steps in a cave - it just has a new bloody name.

Old crap, new paint.

Totally wrong. It sounds like you haven't played the game, so you can't judge.

I've played every generation of game, and there are always new things. Though I'd say that this generation feels the newest.

John Funk:
Review: Pokémon Black & White Versions

Another evolution.

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I don't know how far you've got into the game, but will players eventually get more storage boxes? Because I only saw 8 and that is only enough for 240, though I'm guessing that I will get more after I unlock the ability to get the past generation Pokemon.

You stated as fact that I was wrong and then offered nothing but subject personal experience as evidence.

Both our statements are thus opinion on a subjective element and cannot be wrong (or right).

Loving it so far. Seems like they ramped up the challenge this generation.

Also, I wonder how many people automatically named their Snivy "Smugleaf." :)

Sonic Doctor:

Azmael Silverlance:

OH M LORD! That almost made me cum :D

I just cant wait...1 week and the game comes here...but then ill have to wait for the 3DS X_X

Why would you have to wait for the 3DS? You don't have a one of the other DS types to play it on, or is your 3DS waiting a separate thing from the game waiting?

I definitely love the infinite TMs. The first one I got was from beating the first gym. It is a nice move that raises the attack and special attack of the user. I used it on three of the 5 members of the team I have so far.

Oooh i thought the Black & White editions were like 3DS exclusive or something :O
This is awesome then next week i can already start busting pokemons :D

Azmael Silverlance:

Oooh i thought the Black & White editions were like 3DS exclusive or something :O
This is awesome then next week i can already start busting pokemons :D

Yes it is fun!

I'm surprised how many people have thought that Black and White were 3DS games, considering how the 3DS doesn't launch for another 20 or so days, and I've never heard of next gen games going on sale weeks before the next gen device gets to market.

I'm just happy I'm actually playing it. I pre-ordered White form GameStop back in June. I hadn't realized how long I was going to have to wait. It was so long, the ink on my receipt faded off, I'm glad they used my cell number as proof that I pre-ordered. I'm also happy that I got there on the last day that they were having the free Celebi promotion, got it on my Heart Gold. Now all I need is a Wifi connection to get Victini, and a computer so I can do the special Celebi transfer to my White so that I can get Zorua as well.

I got this game this morning. Jesus, I waited in line for 15 minutes, I don't think I've ever seen Gamestop so packed. But I love this game. I really feel like they made an effort to really improve these games from the last gen. It really does feel like a fresh start for the series. Love my Servine. Love the graphics. Love the soundtrack (surprisingly not annoying and beepy). Love it.

Seriously, still just one save file? That means this was bumped down from "will buy" to "maybe buy". I know that my fiancée wants to play this as much as I do, but with one save file only one of us can play it at one time. And then the save must be deleted when one of us is done with it, for the other one to play. That is out of the question. Hope they remedy this in the next games, but it really doesn't seem like they will. Ever.

The only thing that bothers me about this game is the lack of regard they gave to UI design on a low res device. A lot of buttons have awkward angles (~20/30deg) that render really poorly... straight edges with rounded corners would have been a better decision and looked much sharper.

Kinda wish they'd upped the resolution for the pokemon sprites as well. (Jaggymon, I choose you!)

Other than that I'm enjoying it. It's at least as good as the other games in the series from the initial 3 hours.

Nothing against Pokemon its a great game, but re-hashing the game for the 16th time, really?
Its still pretty sick that still cash in very much of just redoing the story and adding/removing/changing pokemon while adding/removing/changing some move. So for the very low effort this games really require I would think it could give way more than what it does now.

stuhacking:
The only thing that bothers me about this game is the lack of regard they gave to UI design on a low res device. A lot of buttons have awkward angles (~20/30deg) that render really poorly... straight edges with rounded corners would have been a better decision and looked much sharper.

Kinda wish they'd upped the resolution for the pokemon sprites as well. (Jaggymon, I choose you!)
It's at least as good as the other games in the series from the initial 3 hours.

Yep, brilliant game with lots of improvement over the older games.

Triple battles? awesome.
A good story? fantastic.
The much improved but still very out of date graphics? Pretty damn cool aside from jaggy sprites.
The new moves and mons? not sure yet but they make some interesting options.

The User interface? umm.. we've had better in the series
The Pokémon following you around? WTF happened to that feature? It was the best thing ever(ish).

What is it with Gamefreak? Two steps forward one step back, every bloody time.

The HG\SS UI (particularly the bottom screen menu) was brilliant and clear.
What it needed was a few touch ups like making move with the team list up the default behaviour for the Pokémon storage system and having the shoulder buttons move through boxes; after all you could do everything apart from manage your items from that state.
Maybe have a button in the bottom right of the touch screen to switch between different types of info, including the c-gear, like the Pokétch in pearl\diamond did. Hell, perhaps they could have made one of them a Pokedex.

What we got was another awkward and ugly menu system like every other Pokemon game and a bottom screen that only shows information that can be used occasionally at best. Does this stuff fly in Japan? Is this how people like to get their information, by digging around rather than at a glance?

Worse the service that useless bottom screen is meant for isn't available for the first month the game is out.

Awesome game though, stupid inexcusable problems aside.
Come on Snidly the snivy, time to stomp the A.L.F rip-offs once and for all.

[quote="Siyano" post="6.268601.10320220"] very low effort this games really require quote]

What? You ever tried creating a tile-based sprite world? It's a LOT of work, you could just spam stuff down but to do a job as good as Gamefreak does takes serious time and effort. Then they have to spend time creating pokemon; making each one just different enough, adding moves to make new mons interesting, making sure every pokemon has some relevance. Then they have to make the competitive game more involving while maintaining balance.

Every pokemon game has moved the competetive game on significantly which is thousands of hours of testing and bug hunting you can be sure. The point of pokemon is finding somthing interesting and developing your skill with it and every one of the games has delivered, alittle formulaic on the single player side but not without effort. This time round they fixed single play, it's intersting in of itself and breaks from the old routines. Your complaint is a long way from the truth.

Who wants to donate money to the "Fanklok needs money for a DS and pokemon White version" fund?

Unrulyhandbag:
Maybe have a button in the bottom right of the touch screen to switch between different types of info, including the c-gear, like the Pokétch in pearl\diamond did. Hell, perhaps they could have made one of them a Pokedex.

This 1000 times! I was really excited when I first saw the c-gear because I assumed that it was the next generation of pokétch. Now that I've learned it's only for connectivity it's probably not going to get used much. I like that it still tells the time.

Unrulyhandbag:
What we got was another awkward and ugly menu system like every other Pokemon game and a bottom screen that only shows information that can be used occasionally at best. Does this stuff fly in Japan? Is this how people like to get their information, by digging around rather than at a glance?

I gather that wifi (and internet in general) is a lot more ubiquitous in Japan and it's probably more common for people (kids/teens/adults?) to carry a DS around. Of course, wild speculation on my part, but these two factors would make the c-gear more accessible and a more social experience that works well in that setting.

The UK, on the other hand, has very poor internet connectivity and far fewer people carry DSs. Not to mention the rules that Brits are not allowed to talk to each other in public. I probably won't get much use of the c-gear outside my normal circle of pokémon playing friends.

Echo136:

John Funk:
You're at least a teenager in this one. Baby steps.

I personally love the fact that you play an older character. Its more relatable to me, even though im in my mid twenties. The addition of TM's being reusable I think has me sold on this game. In every other game, I always covet them to the point I never use TMs because I only get one in the game. Kinda like getting elixers in final fantasy games.

Or elixers in Pokemon games ;D

Sweet. Maybe one day, they'll make a game with a sort of Pokemon black market that lets you sell and buy Pokemon. :3

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