Miracle of Sound: Distant Honor (Dishonored)

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I love how at times you can hear something resembling a sailors tune. very nice!

Excellent song for an excellent game, I think once again you have a written a song that fits the game really well.

Something that I've been noticing about your more recent songs, most of them I haven't loved the first time I've heard them, not thought they were bad, just not that amazing. But after hearing them a second time they start to click and are some of the best songs I've heard. Now I'm not saying this is a bad thing. Actually I think its a good thing: It shows that you aren't relying on simple catchy melodies with little actual content like many popular songs do. By the second hearing the meaning in the songs and the atmosphere/story/etc they are describing becomes much clearer and I can really enjoy the song.

What I am basically trying to say here is that I love how your songs have true value throughout and don't rely on just a catchy tune or single good refrain.

MiracleOfSound:

DVS BSTrD:

MiracleOfSound:

No, I don't. It is exactly the mood I wanted it to be.

Yeah but it doesn't feel like the mood of the game.

Correction: It doesn't feel like your interpretation of the mood of the game.

So does THIS sound cheerful to you?


-_^

It is also neither my intent or job to always try to re-create the game's mood. I take aspects I enjoy and make something new.

It's your job to make great music, which this is, but you usually stick closer to the game/movie when you do.

DVS BSTrD:

So does THIS sound cheerful to you?

This argument is incredibly flawed as you seem to be implying I should just rip off the songs from the game.

It's your job to make great music, which this is, but you usually stick closer to the game/movie when you do.

And this time I stuck close to one aspect that I enjoyed - Corvo and Emily's relationship and the notion that he is doing everything in his power for her safety and happiness, which I found to be a noble and uplifting sentiment.

DVS BSTrD:
It's your job to make great music, which this is, but you usually stick closer to the game/movie when you do.

I found that to me, it fit pretty well, though, yes the feel of a game is highly subjective. But even beyond that in dishonored, I feel the mood of the game is, while never 'cheerful', very different between if you were going for a slaughter everyone or a well this is terrible but I'm doing everything I can to fix it/pacifistic approach. Or anything in-between those two extremes. From my viewpoint if you were going with the kill every bastard/revenge at all costs approach to the game, then...yeah the song doesn't fit that too well. But honestly as I was playing, most of the time revenge wasn't a priority, it was just a minor subgoal to the main problem of trying to fix things and to help Emily. From that perspective the song fits pretty well, you are succeeding after all =).

I'm not going to say the tune doesn't fit the game. I will say though that the tune and the lyrics seem out of alignment to me. The lyrics are perfect, expressing the anger that you feel when you see the cruelty and inequality of Dunwall as you see it from the shadows, as well as the inner conflict of wanting to strike out at the people responsible for what's happened to the city, and to you, but also wanting to keep the only loved one you have left protected.

(side note: I really loved the way Dishonored got across this theme in lots of little details, not shoving it in your face, but all adding up so that you were never able to quite ignore it. An example would be every time you go back to the Hound Pits after a mission, the blood of the people you've just killed, if you did kill any, is now dried on your sword, rather than having simply disappeared. It's a tiny detail, but the message rings loud and clear. You can't keep Emily safe and ignorant from the ugly things you do in her name. You carry your actions with you, and you don't get to just wash them off and act like nothing's happened.)

So yeah, lyrics were perfect for my experience of the game at any rate. However, on the one hand you've got lyrics full of death, injustice, fury and sadness, but on the other you have a tune that... isn't. I get that there's also the element of love for Emily, and how she represents hope for the future, but it was still a bit jarring nonetheless.

I get that this is just my subjective reaction though. Nobody needs to point that out.

this is literally one my of my fave that you have done, well done mate, well done!

Haven't played Dishonored yet so I'm afraid I'm missing out on any particular nuance you may have gotten in there to do with the story. All the same, I can certainly appreciate the song. It feels quite different to a lot of your songs somehow; the tone and I suppose some of the style(?) are notably different compared to a lot of your songs (which, while expressing -vast- variety seem to be tied together stylistically). Listening to it again I realise that it's the way that you're singing, it has a different flow (if that's the right word) compared with things like New Black Gold or Sovngarde Song. Really really liked the way you took the Drunken Sailor tune, it seems it'd fit even if it weren't featured in trailers etc. for the game. Once again, heartiest congratulations all round, Gav. Keep making excellent songs!
Always nice to see the song on Bandcamp the instant I find it here, too. :D

Yeah... I can see now why you are doing monthly songs now! The quality has SKYROCKETED!

Keep this up and you may very well end up getting radio airtime! These songs are much better than what they usually play on radio nowadays!

MiracleOfSound:
Distant Honor (Dishonored)

And a distant honor calls me to your side.

Watch Video

Ok first off nice song, you've gotten me halfway convinced into getting this game so nice going. :D

Just wondering but why the song so early in the month? Not that I'm complaining just surprised that it would be out so quickly.

I can't believe I almost missed this! Gav, we all agreed that you can take a month to write your great songs, so why have you broken the deal and produced a big-production song so soon after Breaking Down the Borders?
In all seriousness, I haven't played the game yet, but I could easily tell what sort of tone you were going for, that of exploring a silent protagonist's inner thoughts, which I thoroughly approve of: that you can form so specific an interpretation solely through gameplay and contextualisation is a testament both to the game and your lyric writing. I liked how Corvo sounded like both a victim and a ruthless killer who had lost all pang of responsibility ('damn the guilt my past is dead' was a very powerful line). Loved how you wove the sea shanty/lullaby genre in, and, in all honesty, I think it was your smoothest transition to another genre within one of your songs yet: the entire song seemed a lot like Corvo himself, namely wielding many tools and tricks, but ultimately combining them all into something sleek and stylish.

Never played the game.
The song was very good as a song, can't say about the connection to the game thou :P

Does the main char have the mask on all the time and what's the story behind that?

MiracleOfSound:

DVS BSTrD:

So does THIS sound cheerful to you?

This argument is incredibly flawed as you seem to be implying I should just rip off the songs from the game.

It's your job to make great music, which this is, but you usually stick closer to the game/movie when you do.

And this time I stuck close to one aspect that I enjoyed - Corvo and Emily's relationship and the notion that he is doing everything in his power for her safety and happiness, which I found to be a noble and uplifting sentiment.

I want to believe DVS was trolling, but fuck, he's being convincing of making it seem otherwise...

Oh well, great song Gav, reminds me of something, but no idea of what. Just keep on making good songs for us so we can continue to adore you.

Knew I loved it the second it started. You have outdone yourself yet again Gavin! You actually motivated me to make an account here, just so that I can tell you how much I love your work.

I think it was mentioned before, but why is there another song so soon? (Not that Im complaining!) Halfway through October we got "Breaking Down The Borders", and now, just half a month later, this!

Are you absolutely sure you're the only one singing in this?
I swear I can hear a female vocal there as well.

Dishonoured reminds me of a finished and more polished version of Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.
Only without the vampires, obv.

colostomizer:
Dishonoured reminds me of a finished and more polished version of Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.
Only without the vampires, obv.

Bloodlines actually had personality,Dishonored only has atmosphere.Dishonored's mission level design is better because it's an open hub,not linear like Bloodlines' where it mostly a one-way corridor,however I agree that the hubs and buildings outside the games' missions were open for the player to explore.

Ontopic: The song was great,sure it wasn't about the games' dreadful atmosphere,but about something else entirely and it works wonderfully.

VeryOddGamer:
Are you absolutely sure you're the only one singing in this?
I swear I can hear a female vocal there as well.

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsetto

dalek sec:

Just wondering but why the song so early in the month? Not that I'm complaining just surprised that it would be out so quickly.

The MOS schedule is a bit all over the place at the moment. I wanted to do Dishonored while it was still in the public eye, and October-November is AAA season so everyone in the industry is that little bit busier. Next month or two will be a bit hectic then in January we'll get back to regular monthly stuff :)

Basically what I'm trying to say is I have no self control and can't stop myself from making new songs even when it creates pressure, haha

MiracleOfSound:

VeryOddGamer:
Are you absolutely sure you're the only one singing in this?
I swear I can hear a female vocal there as well.

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsetto

Thank you for confirming my suspicions.
Okay, fine, I expected some digital voice manipulation, but it still totally counts.
And now I'm going to go completely off topic here and tell you that I named a soldier in XCom: EU Gavin Dunne. He was recently shot to death by Sectoids.

VeryOddGamer:

Thank you for confirming my suspicions.
Okay, fine, I expected some digital voice manipulation, but it still totally counts.
And now I'm going to go completely off topic here and tell you that I named a soldier in XCom: EU Gavin Dunne. He was recently shot to death by Sectoids.

I have a lot of people killing me in that game :/

Also, yep any man can sing in falsetto with a bit of practice. Well, maybe not Tom Waits. Or Kratos.

Gavin, did you meet the outsider and get windblast? 'cause you blew me away!

MiracleOfSound:

Avayu:
You know, it's funny. Listening to this one the first time, I wasn't far from writing one of these "it doesn't fit the game" comments. But then I listened to the song a second time and began to think about it and realised that it's much more about Corvo's relationship to Emily. In parts it nearly feels like he is singing her to her sleep or trying to explain to her why he has to do bad things. And with that in mind, the song really becomes kind of haunting.

Bingo! I like you.

Hazah! I was skimming through the comments if anyone would think/say the same thing :D
Glad someone did.

*Slow claps out for Gav and Avayu*

PS: Having "Mooorrrrnninggggg" ending your chorus was a great aesthetic choice.

DVS BSTrD:

MiracleOfSound:

DVS BSTrD:
A little upbeat for Dishonored don't you think?

No, I don't. It is exactly the mood I wanted it to be.

Yeah but it doesn't feel like the mood of the game.

Really? because in the first couple of seconds I said< "PERFECT FIT!!" and then it only got better! I swear people like you are just doing it a, as a joke, b, to get in the encore, or c, just trolling.

DVS BSTrD:
A little upbeat for Dishonored don't you think?

I've said this before, but he doesn't have to "fit" the game. When he makes music related to a game, he's making something separate and different.

I can understand the sentiment behind it not feeling "right" to the game, but on its own it means nothing because it ISN'T the game nor should it be.

Plus I think the upbeat feeling fits perfectly in a sneaky way *see below*

....And where are the puns? :(

MiracleOfSound:

Correction: It doesn't feel like your interpretation of the mood of the game.

You're never gonna stop getting these comments are you XD

OT: This song is kind of terrifying :0

The juxtaposition of how the song is presented and what's happening in it really brings the dark parts of the game out in a weird way. It's almost like a child's description of events, not really sure what's going on, but sees it as a game rather than what it is.

^ This heavy stuff, but the way it's sung makes it seem even worse (i.e. better), idk like the ring around the rosie song.
Maybe I'm reading into it too much (I do that sometimes XD), but it really seems like a terrible reality hidden with a veneer of innocence.

I haven't really been listening to Miracle of Sound, but damned if this one didn't bring me in.
Brilliant song, bravo.

Are all scenes in the game? Passed it once and haven't seen all of the scenes in the music video.
For example the part where one man is outside of the window panicking.

I appreciate that even if you haven't played the games these songs are based on (I haven't had a chance to pick up Dishonored yet), you can still easily love the songs; they are stand-alone works of awesome!

I don't know why I never listened to miracle of sound before, these videos are quite frankly superb.

I love the song. It's the first one I ever listened to for you guys and now I have been going on a rampage watching all your videos as well as this one 20 times. I don't really like the melody of the chorus but that's merely because its not my kind of melody if you understand. The lyrics for it were perfect, that includes the whole thing. I am glad you chose to focus on the Corvo & Emily relationship aspect of the game because the game was incredible but that whole thing was my favorite part (when I got the first note and drawing from her in Corvo's room my heart jumped a little) so I see this song as perfect. The way I look at it, and you have a lyric for this too being "Damn the guilt my past is dead", Corvo realizes that there is more hope for Emily than there is for him so he is doing his best to ensure her protection more so than vengeance which is why I think the tag line for the actual game is flawed. Boy, that was a rant wasn't it? Any who, great song!

MiracleOfSound:

VeryOddGamer:

Thank you for confirming my suspicions.
Okay, fine, I expected some digital voice manipulation, but it still totally counts.
And now I'm going to go completely off topic here and tell you that I named a soldier in XCom: EU Gavin Dunne. He was recently shot to death by Sectoids.

I have a lot of people killing me in that game :/

Also, yep any man can sing in falsetto with a bit of practice. Well, maybe not Tom Waits. Or Kratos.

See you just became even more awesome to me for mentioning Tom Waits... I love listening to Tom Traubert's Blues

And now there's a rock lullaby, to lull me to sleep while I think about stabbing dudes or having them eaten by rats. Another gold star there, Gav.

Susan Arendt:

soren7550:
This song makes me want to rock out with my (nonexistent) cock out!

(That may or may not say more about me than I'd like. -_-')

I believe the phrase you want is "jam out with your clam out."

:)

Love that phrase. I always see a couple of people on guitar while the clam somehow plays drums. Or maybe it's on vocals, singing something slow and soulful, like Don't Fear the Reaper.

soren7550:

Hahaha, never heard that one before, but it does work!

Although that too still may or may not say more about me than I'd like.

Whatever it says, feel free to join in! Cock, clam, ken doll, whatever euphemism you're working with, we'll find a way to make it rhyme!

...Unless it's purple.

MiracleOfSound:
And a distant honor calls me to your side.

Good job, like usual.
It seems you're blessed with "spot less obvious things in games" perk.
Plenty of people forget about relationship Corvo has with young Empress.

P.S.
I'd like to hear a song with you and "Faith no More".
And that's the bottom line.

Just have to say that this is one of your best. I can't get it out of my head :)

JesterRaiin:

I'd like to hear a song with you and "Faith no More".
And that's the bottom line.

Life In Bullet Time was my attempt at ripping off Faith No More, lol. I also namecheck them in Binary Divide ;)

I listened to Distant Honor twice, and while I hope all my problems with it are from not playing the game, the content was neither compelling nor particularly memorable. Muddy isn't the right word, but in listening to it I felt like it was created more by procedure than passion or inspiration. And that may all be because I just don't have the connection to the characters in the game.

Not that it was bad or offensive, but when I go back to listen to past songs the only reason I'll check out Distant Honor is if I forget I've listened to it before. Or perhaps if I play Dishonored I might give it another chance.

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