Bethesda Announces The Elder Scrolls Online

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cynicthnkr:
My worst fears have a tendency to come true. Well at least fallout remains SP. (for now)

Its made by a different studio and set in the past so your single player elder scrolls are safe.

John Funk:

KeyMaster45:

I'll be watching with interest to see if Bethesda can manufacture the fabled WoW killer the peasantry has spoken of in whispered legends for the last 8 years.

Short answer: No.

Long answer: No, because while this is a fantasy property beloved by gamers (an excellent seeding ground for an MMO, to be sure), TES Online is up against WoW with 8 years of content upgrades, streamlining, and development under its belt. That is quite literally an impossible hurdle to surmount. If *Star Wars* couldn't kill WoW, what chance does TES have?

WoW will slowly decline on its own over time. At this point, I remain skeptical that any game could ever dethrone it via force - maybe not even Blizzard's own "Titan" project.

Given that WoW's been slowly dying on its own since Cata, I think TES Online is a strong contender as the next big MOO, aslong as its done right.. Which it won't be, but a man can dream.

*Edit* Cos we're all waiting for the next big moo.

If this means I can sneak into an enemy base and rattle off a few high level fury spells at merchants undetected because I spec'd appropriately into the Illusion Tree I may consider getting this. Otherwise I'll wait for TES: VI.

Getting killed by the NPC you're trying to sell your gear to would be great. "Stop selling me all your crap!"

Sorry i just can't get excited for this i could live with a co-op element in a regular TES game but an MMO nah.

DEATHROAD:
Given that WoW's been slowly dying on its own since Cata, I think TES Online is a strong contender as the next big MOO, aslong as its done right.. Which it won't be, but a man can dream.

Agreed. TESO seems to be arriving with most of the advantages that helped WoW topple EQ: the previous MMO juggernaut is waning; they're using a well-loved and established setting which will help set it apart from others in the genre; and a hit game with the same IP was recently released so people.

The same can be said about SWTOR, but then the MMO market seems to be supporting multiple big titles at this point.

If they can pull it off then the gaming industry may have finally dragged me into the world of MMO's. Fallout and this are the only ones that have even remotely interested me.

I'd still rather they added 2 player co-op to Skyrim, but meh.

I have no idea how they are going to make the combat system work, but im looking forward to this project.

Azuaron:
Sigh.

I don't want to play Elder Scrolls online. I want to play Elder Scrolls BY MYSELF.

*grumpy old man*

You can play the MMO and yell at all the other players to get off of your lawn.

They're going to churn out a AAA MMO in a little over a year? Yikes...even with years of development they can't help but put out buggy games. And those buggy games don't have to worry about networking code!

I honestly don't see them getting too far with this. MMOs don't have super graphics like Skyrim because they want to get as many subs as possible. This will be stuck with niche appeal, I'm afraid.

Micalas:
They're going to churn out a AAA MMO in a little over a year? Yikes...even with years of development they can't help but put out buggy games. And those buggy games don't have to worry about networking code!

I honestly don't see them getting too far with this. MMOs don't have super graphics like Skyrim because they want to get as many subs as possible. This will be stuck with niche appeal, I'm afraid.

They have been busy for 5 years they just kept it a secret.

And thus begins the downfall of a great gaming franchise.

From what I've gathered from the info dumps the past 24 hours, it's pretty much a WoW clone like The Old Republic. Just another quick cash-cow.

Like most posters above me, when I heard the news I was worried what this would mean for my TESS. Seeing how Zanimax Online is taking care of this I can breathe a sigh of relief. (For Bethesda, not Zanimax.) I wish Zanimax luck in this endeavor, but I suspect the market is already saturated with MMOs, FTP or otherwise, and hope it doesn't become another Conan.

... you know up until now i was kinda mad my main PC had a breakdown of some sort. However now? It looks like if i can leave it alone until around chriistmas, i might be able to buy a new PC (hmmm, or mac. things are being more compatble for that stuff now, hmmm) and make sure it's top of the line to run this kind of thing. I really hope this is good.

This will either be really great, or really bad. But I wish companies would just come to realize that if you put an MMORPG out in the market, World of Warcraft will almost entirely overshadow it.

DEATHROAD:

Given that WoW's been slowly dying on its own since Cata,

Ahaha. Everyone keeps saying it's been slowly dying since [Insert Expansion Here]

Again, it'll die when it dies. I don't think a single game will be the cause of it.

As long as it isnt slowing bethesda from making another traditional TES game im okay with this.

Nasrin:

Azuaron:
Sigh.

I don't want to play Elder Scrolls online. I want to play Elder Scrolls BY MYSELF.

*grumpy old man*

You can play the MMO and yell at all the other players to get off of your lawn.

Actually, that could get pretty awesome...

Buy (or squat at) a house in one of the big cities, preferably on a corner or one with an easy path between front and back yards so people will be tempted to cut through. Then when they get on (or near) my lawn?

"GET OFF MY LAWN!" *fireballs everywhere*

I have zero interest in this and I am 100% sure that I will never, ever buy it.

MMOs are alike. Even more so than FPSes nowadays. And, they are not especially fun. Not really. Just addictive.

Zero interest.

Skyrim was the ES game that really broke me into the series. But I'd rather dig up on of the previous installments and play that, than another tired mmo. Meh, in a big way.

Irridium:
Eh... not so hot on this.

One reason why I love the Elder Scrolls games is because it's one of the last few franchises where I can just say "fuck the world" and play in my own little bubble with no connectivity to anyone.

Not exactly psyched about the prospect of slaying 10 mudcrabs for their genitals either. Ah well, I hope those looking forward to it will enjoy it, at least.

Also, funny image that's relevant:

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Quality image sir! i notice every player has super legendary Gear as well, how depressing, when all the world is running wild dual wielding legendary Umbra's.. sigh.

all i can hope is they take it in another direction to WoW, like a live action mmo, instead of all of this hot-key bullshit. Part of what makes the elder scrolls engaging is that the combat is not based off of dice rolls or predetermined combat routines, but that it all takes place "live".

why do more mmo's not do this? am i missing some fatal flaw with live, player controlled combat?

I genuinely hope its good, and have no problem with this direction, but i imagine i'll never place any mmo above a single player rpg, its just not possible to achieve the same level of immersion.

Two points that some of you need to get through your head:

1) This is not being made by Bethesda Softworks, the creators and developers of TES and the current developers of Fallout.

2) This is not being made by Bethesda Softworks, the creators and developers of TES and the current developers of Fallout.

SP TES WILL CONTINUE TO BE DEVELOPED ON THE NORMAL BGS DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE.

It's a pity it's shaping up to be the same generic tripe we've been getting for the last 10 years.

They had a chance to have an interesting day/night life cycle for NPCs, a chance for a good bandit/criminal system, a chance to get away from hotkey/cooldown combat, and maybe a chance to try an MMO that isn't set zone after zone on a set progression path. But they pissed it all away (although I think that last one to be a bit to difficult to implement, unless its kind of skills based like EVE).

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/05/first-elder-scrolls-online-details-make-it-sound-like-just-another-fantasy-mmo/

Shinkicker444:
It's a pity it's shaping up to be the same generic tripe we've been getting for the last 10 years.

They had a chance to have an interesting day/night life cycle for NPCs, a chance for a good bandit/criminal system, a chance to get away from hotkey/cooldown combat, and maybe a chance to try an MMO that isn't set zone after zone on a set progression path. But they pissed it all away (although I think that last one to be a bit to difficult to implement, unless its kind of skills based like EVE).

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/05/first-elder-scrolls-online-details-make-it-sound-like-just-another-fantasy-mmo/

If you had actually read the gameinformer leaks you owuld know the game shares 10X more features with guild wars 2 then it does WoW.

Also that Kotaku article lied twice about what was said in the leaks.

I don't like this. The whole reason I like Elder Scrolls is that it's my own personal fantasy bubble where I can completely immerse myself. The last thing that needs is GIMME MONEIZ 2K GOLD PLEEEEEZ NOOOOOOOB1!!!11!!11

Not opposed to co-op with like 2 people in Skyirm though.

I'm hoping there is a fairly permissive pvp so me and some friends can just live bandit style on the roads between major cities to the Imperial City to ambush and rob passers-by.

That would pretty much be the most fun gaming experience ever.

Also, I hope they keep combat up to the same quality. TES is my favorite fantasy game as far as combat goes because it is all right in the players control instead of being at all turn-based. I hope they avoid going to a click and wait combat style.

They need to think long and hard on this one. I hope they keep server population kind of low to not clutter the world. that wouldn't serve the tamriel atmosphere I believe.

I hope they will work the Dwemer angle eventhough the current chronology seems to suggest the MMO will take place long after their alleged disapearance.

but most importantly. I can't wait to get back to Morrowind :)

edit: and with the history alot of people have with the series this game has real potential to have proper Roleplay servers that are strictly enforced. Like with mods that kick you off to a casual server if you abuse general chat for the kind of GOLD PLOX bullshit.

Yaahh! Not only can I fail stealing from NPCs that are busy staring into a void that only they can see in a completely different room doing a completely different thing, I can also have immature fucks laugh at me in the process!

Thank you, Bestheda! You unoriginal fucks!

Though split-screen co-op would be nice. I could tie up my brother and force him do all the squats and weight-lifting while I just read a book. Don't know how he could play while tied up. With his tounge?

dylanmc12:
Yaahh! Not only can I fail stealing from NPCs that are busy staring into a void that only they can see in a completely different room doing a completely different thing, I can also have immature fucks laugh at me in the process!

Thank you, Bestheda! You unoriginal fucks!

Though split-screen co-op would be nice. I could tie up my brother and force him do all the squats and weight-lifting while I just read a book. Don't know how he could play while tied up. With his tounge?

..well whatever you do, wash your hands.

This might be the only MMO I will ever try.

Zydrate:

DEATHROAD:

Given that WoW's been slowly dying on its own since Cata,

Ahaha. Everyone keeps saying it's been slowly dying since [Insert Expansion Here]

True enough lol, everyone has been saying that. But what I'm talking about is the fact that they have been consistently loosing subs since cata, I wasn't blaming cata (Although I personally think its easily the worst expansion, but thats opinion not fact) I was just using it as a time reference.

Why won't they take the hint?

You do not, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, challenge World of Warcraft to a subscriber fight. You WILL lose!

I'd want to play Elder Scrolls at most with my close friends.. I could see that being fun. But an MMO TES will more than likely sacrifice the awesome combat mechanics. The quests are likely to be much blander as there must be loads more of them, and the traditional MMO aproach is to NOT voice the characters (not that TES has the best history of great voice acting, but I can't imgagine it getting better in an MMO version) so that'll annoy me a lot, and leave the characters feeling less alive and more dull... I also tend to not actually read what NPCs are saying while playing MMO's with my friends, only when alone and only when it's interesting enough do I actually follow the plot of the quests (and the poorly justified reason that you have to "thin out" the boar population in that particular area is never tempting to read trough, especially considering that you won't ACTUALLY thin out ANYTHING!.

One of the things that made Skyrim wonderful to me (after installing the "shut up wolves!" mod of course) was the occasional feeling of being all alone far into the wild. I could journey over a desolate mountain pass and feel like a true adventurer. I've tried getting into this mood in MMO's but it's always spoiled by 15 bunny-jumping idiots in the exact same clothes as you skipping about the mountains.

If they'd give me a "host private server" option for free with the subscription fee so that only me and my friends could play, maybe I'd enjoy myself... I won't in an MMO setting though ,and that makes me sad. What makes TES games brilliant isn't the setting so much as it is the Bethesda guys making the damn thing (and not just gluing their names onto another companys product).

Azuaron:
Sigh.

I don't want to play Elder Scrolls online. I want to play Elder Scrolls BY MYSELF.

*grumpy old man*

I'll join you on that...

*equally grumpy old woman*

If I'm honest, Skyrim felt like a (admittedly very good) single player MMO as it was, with the massive number of quests in my log at any one time, the alchemy and blacksmithing, and a few other things that made me feel I was playing a more advanced, Hi Def, WOW.

I'm sure it's possible, but... does it have to 'kill' WOW? Or would anyone really mind if it was just very good, enjoyable and successful?

Seems we allow pop music even tho it's not all as good as the Beatles, and movies keep getting made after Citizen Kane and Godfather. Why can't people try for a new MMO?

Vampire cat:
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Voice acting for all characters has been confirmed

Enter the ugliest and most bug-riddled MMORPG ever created.

At the very least, I hope they're influential in terms of gameplay. The wRPG needs more influence on the MMORPG. As in having more content that has absolutely nothing to do with grinding.

Though, Bethesda, can you please hire Tecmo or Namco or someone like that to design your characters? Please? Please?

rembrandtqeinstein:
the combat in bethesda games is fundamentally terrible

And that's just one of the problems!

Well, I hope they can better sort out what they do wrong, and bring something new to the MMO table. Because Elder Scrolls games are sure as heck different than most MMORPGs. For starters, they don't really do the grinding thing. I'm not really interested in the game, but if they can pull us out of the grinding mould, that would be a good thing.

LilithSlave:
Enter the ugliest and most bug-riddled MMORPG ever created.

Considering it isn't being made by Bethesda why would you expect it to be buggy?

Also the game doesn't look that bad
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