Sony Announces Redesigned PlayStation 3

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That you can't access the 12GB of onboard flash memory after you install a hard drive is just inane Sony-brand pseudo-logic. Why, why is that a thing? I can't fathom the logical conclusions that lead to that being necessary, or a good idea. I mean, I sort of understand a 12GB verion, if it's much cheaper, because maybe you have an old HDD lying around that would work, or want a bigger or smaller HDD than 500GB, but locking the internal memory just seems arbitrary and bureaucratic.

Otherwise my opinion on the announcement is a resounding, nothing. Why is it "Classic" White? If a question counts as an opinion, that's it. If you don't have a PS3 already, get a second hand one, even a fat version. They rarely die, mines going strong still, as are all my friends and acquaintances.

Wait, really? They actually made it more expensive? I don't care if it comes with things bundled in with it now, or if the difference is only 20$, consoles are supposed to get cheaper as they reach the end of their lifecycles, not pricier.

This must be a move to boost sales of the current slim PS3. "Buy the better PS3 now before they are all gone and replaced by this cheaper yet more expensive model".

If this is how Sony intends to compete against the WiiU, they are in trouble.

same tactic as microsoft making the payment policy for the xbox
so they can overlap the generations and make more cash over the long run
and to make people buy both systems

personally i wouldn't do it, but if people are buying their first console
then it's just poor timing for them

Rainforce:

Mr.Tea:
Current "Generation", Previous "Generation", Next "Generation";

Thank you so much for keeping DirectX 9 around for 10 fucking years and counting.

uhm... Direct X is a Microsoft product. I don't think the PS3 has that.
It rather has OpenGL or something.
EDIT: googled a bit, I was right

No shit Sherlock. That wasn't my point; There have been almost no games using DirectX 10 or 11 as a base rather than an addition (and only id Software uses OpenGL for major releases). Why? Well for the consoles of course! Developers don't want to make two implementations of the same game so the PC gets the shaft (not to mention PC exclusives that could take advantage are rare in the first place).

So to recap: Instead of announcing their next console, which would pretty much force Microsoft to do the same, we get to wallow in lowest-common-denominator land for a substantial while longer. That just fills me with joy and I had to spread it on this article. Thank you for listening.

Unnescesary considering that we are almost at the end of the lifespan of the 7th generation consoles.

NezumiiroKitsune:
That you can't access the 12GB of onboard flash memory after you install a hard drive is just inane Sony-brand pseudo-logic. Why, why is that a thing? I can't fathom the logical conclusions that lead to that being necessary, or a good idea. I mean, I sort of understand a 12GB verion, if it's much cheaper, because maybe you have an old HDD lying around that would work, or want a bigger or smaller HDD than 500GB, but locking the internal memory just seems arbitrary and bureaucratic.

i can think of a few good reasons,
it may very well be locked so developers don't have to then make patches or workarounds to find old save data from a specific drive, so reliability issues

or sony don't want to write a program that lets you link multiple hard-drives because people could exploit it by making programs run off secondary drives

it has to be some random technical reason, it wouldn't be because they don't want you having 12gb more space that's insanity!

Talk to me when it's backwards compatible again.

Wow. Good job, Sony.

And to think I actually wanted a PS3...

Well, we'll just have to wait until the next model of PS3 comes out in December,

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THE PS3 ANOREXIC!

New features include:

-No disk drive

-No controller

-No hard drive

-No processor

-No RAM

-Proprietary PS3A-HDMI Adapter (Not included)

-Proprietary PS3A-AC Adapter (Not included)

-Proprietary External hard drives (Starting now at only $350 per gigabyte)

-Fully upgradeable to include the WHOLE PS3A LOGO! (Starting at $50 per letter; $75 per number)

With such an amazing system starting at only $700, if you buy it before 2013 you'll get the screws put into the system by us, free of charge! (Extra weight for shipping systems with screws in them may cause the retail price to increase)

Do the people at Sony actually think about what they are doing or saying, or do they just pluck things out of the air?

"$300 for 6 year old tech, yeah that sounds good."

"Those European guys won't mind paying more and getting less yet again, will they? I mean, it's not like there is a vast, world-wide network that will allow them to see how badly we treat them compared to the rest of the world."

Only thing that is missing is a list of features that they will be removing this time.

(so you don't think I'm a fanboy, I queued up at midnight to get my fat ps3. You know, the one that can play ps2 games. Still running fine)

Crono1973:
This must be a move to boost sales of the current slim PS3. "Buy the better PS3 now before they are all gone and replaced by this cheaper yet more expensive model".

If this is how Sony intends to compete against the Wii U, they are in trouble.

This post is golden. That's exactly what this is. They're both trying to sell their own system by making their own system unsellable, and they're trying to compete with the Wii U. They even got the idea of external memory from Wii U, I wouldn't doubt it.

But part of the appeal of the Wii U's external memory is the fact that is cuts the cost of the product somewhat. But as it stands, this new PS3 is MORE EXPENSIVE THAN RETAIL.

It's also about as expensive as the Wii U itself, which has been noted to be more powerful than the PS3 and 360.

Things like this just... baffle me. Sony has already demonstrated with the Vita that they don't know what the hell they're doing, but this shit just takes the cake. Get with it, Sony, you're becoming senile.

Mr.Tea:
No shit Sherlock. That wasn't my point; There have been almost no games using DirectX 10 or 11 as a base rather than an addition (and only id Software uses OpenGL for major releases). Why? Well for the consoles of course! Developers don't want to make two implementations of the same game so the PC gets the shaft (not to mention PC exclusives that could take advantage are rare in the first place).

So to recap: Instead of announcing their next console, which would pretty much force Microsoft to do the same, we get to wallow in lowest-common-denominator land for a substantial while longer. That just fills me with joy and I had to spread it on this article. Thank you for listening.

Actually, you're still somewhat wrong: most of the DX10/11 stuff got already implemented under DX9 (see XBOX tessellation, for example). There's actually really no need for most of the 10/11 functions, that's why nobody is using it. Higher numbers don't mean that shit gets fancier, sometimes it just means they added a 1 to their name and tagged on a useless new API call nobody wants to use because their own implementation runs just better. Have you seen some of the comparisons they put up to show how DX10 is the next big thing?


If you think "yeah, pretty obvious how the right one has DX10" then nice try, because you can do the latter just as easy in DX9, especially since most of the things they improved between the shots is just some shader postprocessing, and that was possible in DX9 as well.

Looks like Sony will be late too the next generation just like they were late to this one. Hopefully the new Xbox presses it's advantage for real this time instead of the piss-poor job Microsoft did at taking advantage of their year long headstart for the 360.

FlipC:
Out of interest how can it be "Classic" white when the default colour scheme is black?

You sneaky ninja.

I have never seen a white Playstation, the closest being the grey original Playstation, so I too am confused by the use of Classic.

That said, I still havent taken the plunge and completed my console collection (currently have a 360 and a Wii, both white, as well as a white laptop) so may well go for the white console when it comes out over here.

Faladorian:

Crono1973:
This must be a move to boost sales of the current slim PS3. "Buy the better PS3 now before they are all gone and replaced by this cheaper yet more expensive model".

If this is how Sony intends to compete against the Wii U, they are in trouble.

This post is golden. That's exactly what this is. They're both trying to sell their own system by making their own system unsellable, and they're trying to compete with the Wii U. They even got the idea of external memory from Wii U, I wouldn't doubt it.

But part of the appeal of the Wii U's external memory is the fact that is cuts the cost of the product somewhat. But as it stands, this new PS3 is MORE EXPENSIVE THAN RETAIL.

It's also about as expensive as the Wii U itself, which has been noted to be more powerful than the PS3 and 360.

Things like this just... baffle me. Sony has already demonstrated with the Vita that they don't know what the hell they're doing, but this shit just takes the cake. Get with it, Sony, you're becoming senile.

Thanks.

They need to take out Uncharted 3 and the DLC for that game most people won't care about and sell the 250 GB model for $199. They should keep the free PS+ for 30 days voucher because that is more to their benefit than it is the consumers. If they can get you hooked on PS+, then they make more money.

As it is, the cheapest model is now $20 more than the current cheapest model and it's also only $30 less than the WiiU which has the benefit of being a new console. Also, the WiiU doesn't have a cheap sliding door and an exposed Blu-Ray drive. Those ridges are dust collectors too.

Really? $269.99?

Fuck that and fuck consoles. After my 80 gig BC died I never had a reason to replace it.

Rainforce:
Snip

No! It's NOT about the eye candy! And that's exactly what's wrong about what they're doing with the new APIs. It SHOULDN'T be about seeing how we can get new flashy effects on DX9, it should be about taking advantage of the under-the-hood improvements that both DX10 and DX11 were supposed to bring (read: better performance). But that can't happen if everyone keeps using DX9 as their base and only ever use DX10/11 as the "Ultra high" settings.

No, let's all stay on DX9 because it's "good enough" and we can crowbar tessellation in there, even though it's a massively expensive (in GPU resources) effect. It's not worth it until we can make prettier comparison screenshots right? Who needs technological advancements? Fuck progress; We were fine when we measured our hard drives in Megabytes and our RAM in Kilobytes.

Sony I'm about as excited with this update as I was with the iPhone 4S-XL er.. uh.. I mean 5 release.

Really...
Really...
Excited...

Yeah..

Wow...
just... wow.

Sony is taking their ignorance to a whole new level.

This "new" version really has nothing in it that would warrant its pricetag. I mean, it's not like it has more RAM than the original, and thus is still woefully obsolete. Right out of the box!

Hope nobody falls for this.

lancar:
Wow...
just... wow.

Sony is taking their ignorance to a whole new level.

This "new" version really has nothing in it that would warrant its pricetag. I mean, it's not like it has more RAM than the original, and thus is still woefully obsolete. Right out of the box!

Hope nobody falls for this.

There's a shit ton of mindless sheep out there you know. So yes they will fall for it.

meh, to me it seems pointless. maybe if it made the system stupidly cheaper 'd be more impressed. my PS3 is a glorified blu ray player at tthe moment. load times and updates are painful

porpoise hork:

lancar:
Wow...
just... wow.

Sony is taking their ignorance to a whole new level.

This "new" version really has nothing in it that would warrant its pricetag. I mean, it's not like it has more RAM than the original, and thus is still woefully obsolete. Right out of the box!

Hope nobody falls for this.

There's a shit ton of mindless sheep out there you know. So yes they will fall for it.

Let me rephrase that:

"I hope the number that fall for this is significantly less than Sony's projected estimates"

:p

Even the playstation is losing weight...

*looks at tummy

Didn't they just come out with a new PS3 not that long ago? I don't see the logic in making another one so soon. Especially considering that it seems there isn't much of a difference other than the case.

Well, Sony, maybe if you brought it down to something like $200 for the 250 gig so the release of a redesign would make sense, I would buy it.

Unless it plays PS1,2 games I'm not interested. I already had to buy a 2nd PS3 after my original died for no acceptable reason.

Basically Sony think that every few years we all need a console with a bigger HD because of all the fantastic games we are buying and installing concurrently on the aging console.

I'm curious how much money they could have saved themselves over the last 8 years if they had picked ONE SKU and stood behind it.

I can't see how releasing multiple SKUs simultaneously is an intelligent business move, let alone releasing a barely different one every few years.

I mean Apple gets away with it because they ADD functionality with each iteration. Sony has managed to lose most of its selling points over the years with the loss of backwards compatibility, the loss of alternate OS, and the fact that PSN hasn't had anything decent in a long time vs. XBLA getting pretty much every indie game ever because its just a Windows PC offshoot more or less.

When PSN goes fully pay to use, as opposed to the sad, sad, PS+ which offers jack all worth the cost, it will finally lose the ONE thing it still has going for it.

Works for me. I don't own one yet, and was thinking about getting one, mostly for PSN-exclusive indie games and stuff like Bayonetta and Vanquish. Now I get a price cut and free stuff! Awesome!

Frank_Sinatra_:

DeltasDix:

Frank_Sinatra_:
Screw that. Just get a refurbished PS3 off Amazon and pick up a 1TB Sata HDD while you're at it. Once they both arrive install the 1TB Sata to your PS3 and you've got a better PS3 at roughly the same cost.

Why would you put in 1TB? I couldn't imagine anyone using more than 100GB.

Two reasons.
1.) Because you can
2.) If you're a gamer like me you've already used 200GB of the 500GB. I play and keep a LOT of games.

lol i like this person's reasoning! Give them sustenance! *hands their favorite drink*

OT: This seems utterly useless as pointed out, just getting an older ps3 and plugging an HDD into it is much cheaper and your getting the same/possibly better outcome.

just..please stop dilly dallying around and come out with the ps4, don't waste money on this.

Does anyone else get the sneaking suspicion that this might be a warning sign that once again the NEXT generation PS will not be capable of playing the previous ones games?

Sony is fast turning into Sega. Stop updating the PS3 and work on your PS4 or whatever you're gonna call it since 4 Is Death in Japan.

On second thought, stop making more consoles, because - I'm calling this right now - the PS4 is going to have gamebreaking advertisement videos that stop the gameplay every 5 minutes.

Captcha: in over my head

this is great news I have been wanting to buy a ps3 for a while and this new one will drive the prices down on the older models

Does it have backwards compatibility? No, well then... no dice.

Judging from how long the PS2 has lived, they're probably planning on keeping the PS3 goign into the next generation but its still odd for them to make this announcement when there competitor is going next gen.

faefrost:
Does anyone else get the sneaking suspicion that this might be a warning sign that once again the NEXT generation PS will not be capable of playing the previous ones games?

No, I never expected this "super slim" model to play PS2 games. They all play PS1 games.

I am already pretty sure PS4 won't play PS3 games.

CommanderL:
this is great news I have been wanting to buy a ps3 for a while and this new one will drive the prices down on the older models

No it won't. The older models are superior to this model. When Nintendo introduced the Wii that couldn't play Gamecube games, did it drive down the prices of the old model?

wait.

Timothy Chang:
Sony Announces Redesigned PlayStation 3

The new PlayStation 3 refresh loses a few inches and pounds.

The seventh and current generation of consoles has been around since 2005. Nintendo is ready to move on, with the Wii U set to launch at the end of this year, but Sony has other intentions: the company has announced the release of a new PlayStation 3 at this year's Tokyo Game Show.

The console refresh will be 20% smaller and 25% lighter than its predecessor, and it will come in two flavors: Charcoal Black and Classic White.

North America will get a 250GB version on September 25th for $269.99, with a "limited edition" bundle that includes a copy of Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception and a $30 credit voucher for use in Dust 514. For those that are willing to wait, a 500GB version is available from October 30th for $299.99. This will also be a "limited edition" bundle, coming with a copy of Assassin's Creed 3.

Ya, I think I'll just wait for the next console to come out. Not the next Sony console of course. I think I've had enough Sony for one lifetime.

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