Disney Hands Star Wars: Episode VII to the Writer of Toy Story 3

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trty00:

Doom972:

Couldn't they get someone with Action/Science Fiction/Fantasy experience? Toy Story 3 was fine, but it's hardly the tone I expect from a good Star Wars film. I'm trying to keep a positive attitude about it, but this kind of news doesn't help.

You can't possibly judge something like that based solely on the fact that he wrote Toy Story 3.

I'm not judging him because of TS3, I'm judging him regardless of it. While it was good, I would have preferred someone with experience with films closer to Star Wars' genre and tone.

DVS BSTrD:
Now all we need is Joss Whedon to direct.

That we do...

I was also thinking how awesome it would be if they tagged Drew Karpyshyn since he did a damn fine job writing the stories for SWTOR and the Darth Bane trilogy, as well as the Mass Effect novels (except that craptastic last one, that wasn't Drew). I pretty much love all of his work, and the only reason the ME3 fiasco happened was because he was busy with swtor, and they didn't go with his outline for how the story should wrap.

Tartarga:
So I guess we can expect episode VII to be a tearjerker then?

Well I heard they got Harrison Ford on board and he has always said the only way he would ever do a star wars movie again is if they killed of Hon Solo.

Doom972:

I'm not judging him because of TS3, I'm judging him regardless of it. While it was good, I would have preferred someone with experience with films closer to Star Wars' genre and tone.

You should be happy with the fact that they got a competent writer to begin with, also the problem with the prequels is that they thought the genre would carry it (spoilers: it didn't). You want a writer who can do good story and characters.

Sexy Devil:

tmande2nd:

Toy Story 3 was well written.
I mean yes its a kid movie

Why the hell is this an issue to everyone? Star Wars is a god damn kids movie. I don't care if you want to make some argument for the expanded universe; those 6 movies were, without a doubt, made with kids in mind.

I mean the only mildly dark parts in those movies came from the prequels, and all of those parts were more accidentally hilarious than dark.

What, choking people to death, torture, dismemberment and enforced servitude(aka slavery) are kids' stuff now? Is it now only adult if gets as graphic as Saw?

Scars Unseen:

What, choking people to death, torture, dismemberment and enforced servitude(aka slavery) are kids' stuff now? Is it now only adult if gets as graphic as Saw?

Sexy Devil:

Why the hell is this an issue to everyone? Star Wars is a god damn kids movie. I don't care if you want to make some argument for the expanded universe; those 6 movies were, without a doubt, made with kids in mind.

I mean the only mildly dark parts in those movies came from the prequels, and all of those parts were more accidentally hilarious than dark.

Can we talk about this without sarcasm? We're on the same "side" here.

"Kids films" can have dark themes (read old fairy tales), and just because they are kids films doesn't mean they are devoid of artistic merit and good writing.

Lucas's prequels failed cause they had badly written stories and characters, there are people who try to justify this with "it's just a kid's film" but that doesn't work cause being a "kids film" does not make it immune to criticism valid for intelligently made films, especially when the original films had that intelligence.

Doom972:

Couldn't they get someone with Action/Science Fiction/Fantasy experience? Toy Story 3 was fine, but it's hardly the tone I expect from a good Star Wars film. I'm trying to keep a positive attitude about it, but this kind of news doesn't help.

Well he also has a movie in post production with Tom Cruise, Morgan Freeman and Jamie Lannister. "A court martial sends a veteran soldier to a distant planet, where he has to destroy the remains of an alien race. The arrival of an unexpected traveler causes him to question what he knows about the planet, his mission, and himself. " And he wrote the screenplay for the next hunger games movie.

So presumably he knows what he is doing.

it's not like the prequels were even bad by industry standards, just lacking in comparison to the original trilogy. judging by that...catering to a new generation/audience on an old name is the best bet for Disney and probably what they'll be doing...maybe

I'm not too emotionally struck either way on the matter anyway lol...just waiting to see what they'l produce. no skin off my back (or childhood)

NICE! My my expectations for this movie went from meh to :DDD

Now they just need to sign Brad Bird on as the director and I can die happpy...

My hopes for Star Wars Episode VII just went up a bit but I was really hoping they would have gotten Joss Whedon to write the story instead. I have faith in this guy. I just have more faith in Joss Whedon.

TimeLord:
So still no news about when this will be set? i.e. pre-ep1 or post-ep6?

Also I liked Ep1 a lot, just saying... snarky subtitle and all.

i heard somewhere it is definetly post ep6...

klaynexas3:

Have you seen either movies? There are comedic moments in Star Wars and if you dare tell me there is nothing serious in Toy Story 3 then you have the right, no, the duty to leave the internet right now and never come back.

The only change is from a fantasy style movie to an action science fiction movie, which if you want a good comparison would be like an alternative/indie rock singer joining a metal band. Not the same, and a bit of a leap, but there is enough commone ground to work with and if he was a good enough singer(or writer for the actual situation, and he is) then the jump should still work out well in the end.

I've seen both thanks, Toy story 3 was funny yeah and the bits when the toys get abandoned are sad, but I am not leaving the internet whatever you say. So draw your sword boy I'll cut you down to size ha har... ahem..

I disagree Toy story is a comedy for kids with adventure elements and the odd serious undertone. Star Wars is a sci fi epic with the occasional splashes of humour like C3po not wanting to go on adventure's but following r2d2 into trouble anyway. But it has heights of seriousness Toy story doesn't, see Obi wan chopping up Anakin and Leia dying in childbirth and a whole planet being blown up, the population all murdered in one death star blast.

If you think they are pretty similar, then there is something wrong with you mate. They need to get someone in who knows the material is a fan and has done similar stuff before, not a comedy writer.

afroebob:

verdant monkai:
The guy is a fucking comedy writer! what is everyone pleased about?? Its like a thrash metal singer announcing he is about to try and do some dubstep.

I tried to think of some oxymoron's to better illustrate my point but you get the idea, it is just plain stupid. I will still go and see them though because I am pretty curious.

Did you know the same guy who wrote Toy Story also wrote The Avengers, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Firefly, Cabin in the Woods, and Speed? His name is Joss Whedon, I'm guessing you've heard of him. So if the writer from Toy Story could make all those fantastic movies I'm pretty sure that the writer for Toy Story 3, which is in many people's opinions the best in the series, has the chops to write a Star Wars movie.

Bottom line, stop bitching people and realize this guy knows his shit. Anyone who can make a three-quel that's with as much acclaim from critics and audiences as Toy Story 3 I'm sure he can do this.Fortunately most people know this and are as happy as me, but not everyone can think unfortunately.

Your logic is ludicrous, let me get this straight. The guy who did the first Toy story is fantastic and an amazingly diverse writer, so the guy who did the third Toy story must be equally as versatile and good? 0_o
You realise they are two different people right? Any proof this guy "knows his shit"????

No I disagree he seems to be primarily a comedy writer, we need someone who is a fan with sci fi experience. Show me that this guy has done anything for the scifi genre of considerable note and then you can say I am "bitching". But by all means have a naive blind faith in someone with no immediately available experience in what he is doing, which by the way is an impossible task because die hard fans will never accept anything as cannon but the first 3 films.

Lovely Mixture:
What, choking people to death, torture, dismemberment and enforced servitude(aka slavery) are kids' stuff now? Is it now only adult if gets as graphic as Saw?

Torture, dismemberment, enforced servitude, you know they were in toy story 3 right, kids stuff isn't always light and fluffy and Disney is the king of dark children's movies.

Lovely Mixture:

Scars Unseen:

What, choking people to death, torture, dismemberment and enforced servitude(aka slavery) are kids' stuff now? Is it now only adult if gets as graphic as Saw?

Sexy Devil:

Why the hell is this an issue to everyone? Star Wars is a god damn kids movie. I don't care if you want to make some argument for the expanded universe; those 6 movies were, without a doubt, made with kids in mind.

I mean the only mildly dark parts in those movies came from the prequels, and all of those parts were more accidentally hilarious than dark.

Can we talk about this without sarcasm? We're on the same "side" here.

"Kids films" can have dark themes (read old fairy tales), and just because they are kids films doesn't mean they are devoid of artistic merit and good writing.

Lucas's prequels failed cause they had badly written stories and characters, there are people who try to justify this with "it's just a kid's film" but that doesn't work cause being a "kids film" does not make it immune to criticism valid for intelligently made films, especially when the original films had that intelligence.

What's perhaps ironic here is that Toy Story 3 is probably more intelligent of a movie and deals with a lot of symbolic and heavy themes underneath it all.

verdant monkai:

afroebob:

verdant monkai:
The guy is a fucking comedy writer! what is everyone pleased about?? Its like a thrash metal singer announcing he is about to try and do some dubstep.

I tried to think of some oxymoron's to better illustrate my point but you get the idea, it is just plain stupid. I will still go and see them though because I am pretty curious.

Did you know the same guy who wrote Toy Story also wrote The Avengers, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Firefly, Cabin in the Woods, and Speed? His name is Joss Whedon, I'm guessing you've heard of him. So if the writer from Toy Story could make all those fantastic movies I'm pretty sure that the writer for Toy Story 3, which is in many people's opinions the best in the series, has the chops to write a Star Wars movie.

Bottom line, stop bitching people and realize this guy knows his shit. Anyone who can make a three-quel that's with as much acclaim from critics and audiences as Toy Story 3 I'm sure he can do this.Fortunately most people know this and are as happy as me, but not everyone can think unfortunately.

Your logic is ludicrous, let me get this straight. The guy who did the first Toy story is fantastic and an amazingly diverse writer, so the guy who did the third Toy story must be equally as versatile and good? 0_o
You realise they are two different people right? Any proof this guy "knows his shit"????

No I disagree he seems to be primarily a comedy writer, we need someone who is a fan with sci fi experience. Show me that this guy has done anything for the scifi genre of considerable note and then you can say I am "bitching". But by all means have a naive blind faith in someone with no immediately available experience in what he is doing, which by the way is an impossible task because die hard fans will never accept anything as cannon but the first 3 films.

His logic is "don't just assume the guy can only write comedies". Besides, I don't see the deal - after the deathly serious prequels, a bit of comedy-action could be a welcome breath of fresh air in the series.

verdant monkai:

afroebob:

verdant monkai:
The guy is a fucking comedy writer! what is everyone pleased about?? Its like a thrash metal singer announcing he is about to try and do some dubstep.

I tried to think of some oxymoron's to better illustrate my point but you get the idea, it is just plain stupid. I will still go and see them though because I am pretty curious.

Did you know the same guy who wrote Toy Story also wrote The Avengers, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Firefly, Cabin in the Woods, and Speed? His name is Joss Whedon, I'm guessing you've heard of him. So if the writer from Toy Story could make all those fantastic movies I'm pretty sure that the writer for Toy Story 3, which is in many people's opinions the best in the series, has the chops to write a Star Wars movie.

Bottom line, stop bitching people and realize this guy knows his shit. Anyone who can make a three-quel that's with as much acclaim from critics and audiences as Toy Story 3 I'm sure he can do this.Fortunately most people know this and are as happy as me, but not everyone can think unfortunately.

Your logic is ludicrous, let me get this straight. The guy who did the first Toy story is fantastic and an amazingly diverse writer, so the guy who did the third Toy story must be equally as versatile and good? 0_o
You realise they are two different people right? Any proof this guy "knows his shit"????

No I disagree he seems to be primarily a comedy writer, we need someone who is a fan with sci fi experience. Show me that this guy has done anything for the scifi genre of considerable note and then you can say I am "bitching". But by all means have a naive blind faith in someone with no immediately available experience in what he is doing, which by the way is an impossible task because die hard fans will never accept anything as cannon but the first 3 films.

Sci-fi experience? Ignoring the irony that Toy Story 3 is a considerably more intelligent film than Star Wars (Though I liked them both, don't get me wrong), let's get one thing strait here:

Understanding the different tropes and conventions of science fiction isn't too difficult, nor is it nearly as important as understand how to effectively deliver a story that is engaging to the audience with realistic characters that are interesting to watch perform.

saintdane05:
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These guys better be in it...

Oh god no, they reallly jumped the shark with the Vong.

Just to clarify...Joss Whedon is neither God, nor is he the only person in the world who can write a SciFi script.
Sure, Avengers was great, but don't get all misty eyed and think that he is the greatest writer/directer the planet has ever seen.

Anyway, since Lucus managed to take the series to depths that were previously deemed impossible, Disney really don't have to do much to make a film which is better.

Just cut back on the CGI and have a script which wasn't written by a guy slamming his face against a keyboard and you should be fine.
Oh...and NEVER use the word 'younglings' again.

Li Mu:
Oh...and NEVER use the word 'younglings' again.

But hopefully there'll still be plenty of dialogue about sand.

Infernai:
Now at last the masks had fallen away. The strings of the puppets had become visible, and the hands of the prime mover exposed. Most ironic of all, was the last gift that Lucas' departure had given me: more powerful then Disney which now held their rights. More Accute even then the knowledge of one able to discern the insanity of the expanded universe. The first bitter taste of that terrible illusion...hope.

On a more serious note, if you are making a movie set after the sixth movie. Maybe you should create one about this guy:

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Just Saying...maybe it's time to give him a movie.

Little Gray:

Tartarga:
So I guess we can expect episode VII to be a tearjerker then?

Well I heard they got Harrison Ford on board and he has always said the only way he would ever do a star wars movie again is if they killed of Hon Solo.

Hmm with Harrison Ford's age and looks he could probably pull off Kyle's dad in the movie. Of course that is going from how Kyle looks from the games so that comparison probably isn't relevant at all.

OP I never bothered with Toy Story much after the first one and this kind of information just give me a raised eyebrow. Of course I just think why are they aiming for a script to rival episode 1, please no jar-jar type character. I'll just wait and watch before making any judgement calls.

Doom972:

Pallindromemordnillap:

Doom972:
Couldn't they get someone with Action/Science Fiction/Fantasy experience? Toy Story 3 was fine, but it's hardly the tone I expect from a good Star Wars film. I'm trying to keep a positive attitude about it, but this kind of news doesn't help.

Frankly I'd take someone with proven skill at writing good screenplays with decent characterisation over someone who just has sci-fi action movie experience. I mean, would you prefer Michael Bay be writing Episode VII? 'cuz he's got loads of Action/Science Fiction/Fantasy experience

I thought it would be obvious that I meant good experience. Why would you think anyone would want Michael Bay? Unless you secretly do...

I would only think someone would want Michael Bay if they had some sort of mental deficiency. I'm just pointing out the holes in your logic. Michael Bay makes films that are both sci-fi and, to most people's eternal regret, make money. Thats why you get films like Battleship aping his style. To Hollywood that makes him the ideal choice if all they want is sci-fi. So for Disney to get someone who can actually write is a positive thing

Only one man can save us now.

Help us Peter Jackson, you're our only hope.

I Ardnt have a good feeling about this.

Its still disney, Which is funny considering they used to fund the guy who was essentially one of the prototypes for Vader. So really its all moot.

While I do respect that disney has at least tried to push forward for an older demographic in recent memory, aiming for teens and tweens is still not a lot better than kids.

If the narrative follows ANY sort of idea of what should logically follow, it would lead to some of the darkest material in star wars lore, However you know that will not occur. So expect something pretty family friendly... and if you dont...

...errrr... submit.. whatever.

verdant monkai:
stuff

Someone clearly hasn't seen Little Miss Sunshine, have they?

I've gone from, "Disney buying Star Wars is a good move but I don't really care that much" to, "Holy fuck, this could be the start of something very special indeed".

well that sounds promising, now if the can actualy follow the established books/comics that are already done i will be quite the happy camper

Daymo:
snip

That's not my quote BTW.

Devoneaux:

What's perhaps ironic here is that Toy Story 3 is probably more intelligent of a movie and deals with a lot of symbolic and heavy themes underneath it all.

Well they are almost too different to compare. But I see what you're saying, Toy Story handles much more complex themes.

verdant monkai:

klaynexas3:

Have you seen either movies? There are comedic moments in Star Wars and if you dare tell me there is nothing serious in Toy Story 3 then you have the right, no, the duty to leave the internet right now and never come back.

The only change is from a fantasy style movie to an action science fiction movie, which if you want a good comparison would be like an alternative/indie rock singer joining a metal band. Not the same, and a bit of a leap, but there is enough commone ground to work with and if he was a good enough singer(or writer for the actual situation, and he is) then the jump should still work out well in the end.

I've seen both thanks, Toy story 3 was funny yeah and the bits when the toys get abandoned are sad, but I am not leaving the internet whatever you say. So draw your sword boy I'll cut you down to size ha har... ahem..

I disagree Toy story is a comedy for kids with adventure elements and the odd serious undertone. Star Wars is a sci fi epic with the occasional splashes of humour like C3po not wanting to go on adventure's but following r2d2 into trouble anyway. But it has heights of seriousness Toy story doesn't, see Obi wan chopping up Anakin and Leia dying in childbirth and a whole planet being blown up, the population all murdered in one death star blast.

If you think they are pretty similar, then there is something wrong with you mate. They need to get someone in who knows the material is a fan and has done similar stuff before, not a comedy writer.

And the entire cast of main characters nearly dying in a giant flame and finally accepting their fate was hilarious? I'm not saying that they are exactly alike, I'm saying there's more common ground between the two than you give credit.

Mike Kayatta:

Academy Award winner Michael Arndt has been given the impossible task of producing a script as good as Episode One's.

The sarcasm is strong in this one.

klaynexas3:

And the entire cast of main characters nearly dying in a giant flame and finally accepting their fate was hilarious? I'm not saying that they are exactly alike, I'm saying there's more common ground between the two than you give credit.

Nearly dying and actually dying is a colossal difference a colossal one. They could both be considered adventure stories with comedy elements, with Star War's focus on adventure and toy stories on comedy, that is their shockingly basic elements. That is all they have in common.

Star wars is a film about space adventures with a select group of people being able to control space magic called the force, the Jedi live a selfless existence bettering others lives, the Sith aim to dominate and control. It is the battle of good and evil, with allegorical references to religious materiel, ie one who will bring balance to the force is the messiah.

Toy Story is a story about inanimate objects coming to life and working as a team to accomplish a goal which will, result in their child owner being happy. There are various mishaps along the way but everything is positively resolved at the end of each film, unlike Star Wars see the empire strikes back and Han being frozen whilst Luke loses a hand etc. Or Revenge of the Sith with Padme dead and Anakin Darth Vader'ed.

They are not similar. Their only similarities are those two basic elements comedy and adventure. If you think they have a lot in common you are wrong, that is my opinion and unless someone comes up with something more convincing than "you haven't seen little miss sunshine" I will have my doubts about his capabilities as George Lucas' successor.

I will still watch them and you know what I would love to enjoy them, I hope my fears prove wrong and we get another lease of life out of the series.

Doom972:

trty00:

Doom972:

Couldn't they get someone with Action/Science Fiction/Fantasy experience? Toy Story 3 was fine, but it's hardly the tone I expect from a good Star Wars film. I'm trying to keep a positive attitude about it, but this kind of news doesn't help.

You can't possibly judge something like that based solely on the fact that he wrote Toy Story 3.

I'm not judging him because of TS3, I'm judging him regardless of it. While it was good, I would have preferred someone with experience with films closer to Star Wars' genre and tone.

Like George Lucas? Oh right.

I'm actually quite happy because they're giving this franchise where the last 3 movies had no emotional weight whatsoever to a guy who was able to make every grown man cry with an animation movie.

Divinegon:

Doom972:

trty00:

You can't possibly judge something like that based solely on the fact that he wrote Toy Story 3.

I'm not judging him because of TS3, I'm judging him regardless of it. While it was good, I would have preferred someone with experience with films closer to Star Wars' genre and tone.

Like George Lucas? Oh right.

I'm actually quite happy because they're giving this franchise where the last 3 movies had no emotional weight whatsoever to a guy who was able to make every grown man cry with an animation movie.

Don't put words in my mouth! I never said George Lucas should make another Star Wars film, and I won't have you saying that I have. If they would've said that he's going to be the writer I would've reacted pretty much the same way.

Pallindromemordnillap:

Doom972:

Pallindromemordnillap:

Frankly I'd take someone with proven skill at writing good screenplays with decent characterisation over someone who just has sci-fi action movie experience. I mean, would you prefer Michael Bay be writing Episode VII? 'cuz he's got loads of Action/Science Fiction/Fantasy experience

I thought it would be obvious that I meant good experience. Why would you think anyone would want Michael Bay? Unless you secretly do...

I would only think someone would want Michael Bay if they had some sort of mental deficiency. I'm just pointing out the holes in your logic. Michael Bay makes films that are both sci-fi and, to most people's eternal regret, make money. Thats why you get films like Battleship aping his style. To Hollywood that makes him the ideal choice if all they want is sci-fi. So for Disney to get someone who can actually write is a positive thing

He did that films of those genres, but not any actually good ones (at least nothing that I've seen). Of course he wouldn't be an improvement.

Mycroft Holmes:

Doom972:

Couldn't they get someone with Action/Science Fiction/Fantasy experience? Toy Story 3 was fine, but it's hardly the tone I expect from a good Star Wars film. I'm trying to keep a positive attitude about it, but this kind of news doesn't help.

Well he also has a movie in post production with Tom Cruise, Morgan Freeman and Jamie Lannister. "A court martial sends a veteran soldier to a distant planet, where he has to destroy the remains of an alien race. The arrival of an unexpected traveler causes him to question what he knows about the planet, his mission, and himself. " And he wrote the screenplay for the next hunger games movie.

So presumably he knows what he is doing.

I might change my mind if I see it and like it.

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