Electronic Arts Signs Exclusive Star Wars Game Deal With Disney

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Saviordd1:

DVS BSTrD:

Also Andy, don't ever use that picture again.

Am I the only one who didn't mind that edit?

Like the new movies or not, they are part of the canon, and it makes sense for Anakins ghost to...well look like anakin.

OT: Well, those are good devs, but how bad is EA gonna fuck those games up with micro transactions?

Except they were supposed to look how Luke saw them, or how they actually looked at the time they died (Why doesn't old ben look like young ben if this isn't the case?). Then again guessing by that avatar, little details aren't really all that important to you anyway.

OT: Yep, this falls in line pretty much with my expectations. Maybe Disney will wise up at some point.

Devoneaux:

Saviordd1:

DVS BSTrD:

Also Andy, don't ever use that picture again.

Am I the only one who didn't mind that edit?

Like the new movies or not, they are part of the canon, and it makes sense for Anakins ghost to...well look like anakin.

OT: Well, those are good devs, but how bad is EA gonna fuck those games up with micro transactions?

Except they were supposed to look how Luke saw them, or how they actually looked at the time they died (Why doesn't old ben look like young ben if this isn't the case?). Then again guessing by that avatar, little details aren't really all that important to you anyway.

OT: Yep, this falls in line pretty much with my expectations. Maybe Disney will wise up at some point.

Condescend much?

But please, tell me the part in the movies where it says "Luke, when you see the ghosts, you will see them how you imagine them" because otherwise its head canon or EU canon which is flimsy, at best.

Going by your logic my explanation of "He reverts back to his good self" is just as valid.

Saviordd1:

Devoneaux:

Saviordd1:

Am I the only one who didn't mind that edit?

Like the new movies or not, they are part of the canon, and it makes sense for Anakins ghost to...well look like anakin.

OT: Well, those are good devs, but how bad is EA gonna fuck those games up with micro transactions?

Except they were supposed to look how Luke saw them, or how they actually looked at the time they died (Why doesn't old ben look like young ben if this isn't the case?). Then again guessing by that avatar, little details aren't really all that important to you anyway.

OT: Yep, this falls in line pretty much with my expectations. Maybe Disney will wise up at some point.

Condescend much?

But please, tell me the part in the movies where it says "Luke, when you see the ghosts, you will see them how you imagine them" because otherwise its head canon or EU canon which is flimsy, at best.

Going by your logic my explanation of "He reverts back to his good self" is just as valid.

One's "moral standing" has nothing to do with how they look that's just asinine. Again, why does Aniken get a special set or rules when Yoda and Ben do not?

I wasn't really planning on buying any of the hypothetical starwars games, but now there's nothing that could convince me otherwise.

It also shows where the series is headed under new management, and it is a sad place indeed.

Akalabeth:

Doom972:

[quote="Doom972" post="7.407382.16998418"]
They might do something good with it, but the fact that the contract is EXCLUSIVE to EA is the problem. This means that nobody else will get a chance at a Star Wars game anytime soon.

I don't actually find that a bad thing. The direction that Star Wars games have taken recently to me does not reflect the movies I grew up with. Like the grossly overpowered, superhero warriors that Jedi are now represented as for example. Again what happened to "Guardians of Peace". A lot of the movies seem to portray them more as Agents of Destruction and Death. And part of that problem is the prequel movies which frankly ruined a lot of the mythos. So games now build off the new mythos, which is shit.

How is exclusivity over the franchise to one publisher a good thing? Why would you prefer that only EA would get to make Star Wars games?

I thought most people would consider the idea that Bioware, Visceral, and Dice might make a Star Wars game a good thing but This thread has been mostly griping about EA's various issues. Maybe EA has influenced games in the past and not for the better. Whatever.

I remember the fun I had with the old battlefield games. I remember the feeling of fighting necromorphs alone in the dark. I remember the sheer number of hours I sunk into Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and Knights of the Old Republic. So I'm willing to play whatever these three studios put out. Bad blood or not I'm gonna take my Star Wars themed blessings where I can get them.

So how about it internet? Put away the drama queen attitude and quit whining about EA long enough to see what these developers make. After that, you can get back to complaining.

Until then I'm gonna be putting my Republic Commando 2 altar back together

I just want a new battlefront game. If they deliver that, then I'll be pleased.

Ok, initial reaction was: 'Oh God, Nooo!'. Upon deeper reflection, my response was still 'Oh God No!'.

My favorite bits from the OP.

The move confirms that Disney's decision to pull the plug on LucasArts did not signal a loss of interest in the videogame scene, but rather a desire to shift responsibility for the development of future Star Wars games into the hands of a company with some actual expertise in the field.

So, why are they working with EA again?

Neither would, say, a new TIE Fighter - just something to think about if anyone from EA happens to be reading.

Yes because in the eyes of the industry, space sims sell! As such EA will of course be champing at the bit to get started on that one! [/sarcasm]

*sigh*

Unfortuantely however, the games that come out of this deal will sell, albeit probably not as much as EA will inevitably expect them too, serving to further prolong EA's death spasms, or atleast further postpone their realisation that they need to change their ways rather drastically sooner or later if they ever want to start growing their business again any time soon.

Just when I starting to have some faith in humanity again...

Doom972:

Akalabeth:

Doom972:

[quote="Doom972" post="7.407382.16998418"]
They might do something good with it, but the fact that the contract is EXCLUSIVE to EA is the problem. This means that nobody else will get a chance at a Star Wars game anytime soon.

I don't actually find that a bad thing. The direction that Star Wars games have taken recently to me does not reflect the movies I grew up with. Like the grossly overpowered, superhero warriors that Jedi are now represented as for example. Again what happened to "Guardians of Peace". A lot of the movies seem to portray them more as Agents of Destruction and Death. And part of that problem is the prequel movies which frankly ruined a lot of the mythos. So games now build off the new mythos, which is shit.

How is exclusivity over the franchise to one publisher a good thing? Why would you prefer that only EA would get to make Star Wars games?

I don't prefer that EA get exclusivity, I just don't have the knee jerk reaction that it's a bad thing like most people in this thread. Time will tell if it's a bad move or not.

As for why it CAN be a good thing? Because having development under one roof helps create consistency. Look at the development of the Avengers movie and all its predecessors to see what having everything under one roof can accomplish.

Well, the only thing that gives me the slightest glimmer of hope about this is that Disney has an image which they protect quite vigorously. I imagine that they will keep EA on a short leash to protect that image.

Devoneaux:

Saviordd1:

Devoneaux:

Except they were supposed to look how Luke saw them, or how they actually looked at the time they died (Why doesn't old ben look like young ben if this isn't the case?). Then again guessing by that avatar, little details aren't really all that important to you anyway.

OT: Yep, this falls in line pretty much with my expectations. Maybe Disney will wise up at some point.

Condescend much?

But please, tell me the part in the movies where it says "Luke, when you see the ghosts, you will see them how you imagine them" because otherwise its head canon or EU canon which is flimsy, at best.

Going by your logic my explanation of "He reverts back to his good self" is just as valid.

One's "moral standing" has nothing to do with how they look that's just asinine. Again, why does Aniken get a special set or rules when Yoda and Ben do not?

I don't know.

The same reason he changes his face and body completely if we go with the original version.

Am I the only one who thinks this might be good?

Really people

give it a chance before you start raging at this "unholy abomination"

Thamian:
Just when I starting to have some faith in humanity again...

What a strange stock in humanity you must keep if it's based so strongly on the actions of For-Profit companies.

Thank god i'm not a hardcore Star Wars fan or anything,if i was,i would be pretty pissed

Nurb:
Stop! Stop! Star Wars is already dead!

For some reason,after reading you comment i felt the need to post this
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One of these games better be Battlefront 3 or an equivalent, and it had better have space combat or I'm gonna punch someone.

Akalabeth:

Doom972:

Akalabeth:

I don't actually find that a bad thing. The direction that Star Wars games have taken recently to me does not reflect the movies I grew up with. Like the grossly overpowered, superhero warriors that Jedi are now represented as for example. Again what happened to "Guardians of Peace". A lot of the movies seem to portray them more as Agents of Destruction and Death. And part of that problem is the prequel movies which frankly ruined a lot of the mythos. So games now build off the new mythos, which is shit.

How is exclusivity over the franchise to one publisher a good thing? Why would you prefer that only EA would get to make Star Wars games?

I don't prefer that EA get exclusivity, I just don't have the knee jerk reaction that it's a bad thing like most people in this thread. Time will tell if it's a bad move or not.

As for why it CAN be a good thing? Because having development under one roof helps create consistency. Look at the development of the Avengers movie and all its predecessors to see what having everything under one roof can accomplish.

If given to a competent publisher, maybe. Knowing EA's history, I doubt that they'll care about consistency as much as Lucas Arts did. It's bad news for most gamers, but at least some EA fans will be satisfied.

Doom972:

Akalabeth:

Doom972:

How is exclusivity over the franchise to one publisher a good thing? Why would you prefer that only EA would get to make Star Wars games?

I don't prefer that EA get exclusivity, I just don't have the knee jerk reaction that it's a bad thing like most people in this thread. Time will tell if it's a bad move or not.

As for why it CAN be a good thing? Because having development under one roof helps create consistency. Look at the development of the Avengers movie and all its predecessors to see what having everything under one roof can accomplish.

If given to a competent publisher, maybe. Knowing EA's history, I doubt that they'll care about consistency as much as Lucas Arts did. It's bad news for most gamers, but at least some EA fans will be satisfied.

Considering that the most popular space opera of this generation is Mass Effect, and given that Mass Effect is published by EA, I would think they'd have a better understanding than most publishers on how to deliver a good Star Wars product. They of course also have Deadspace, which is likewise another sci-fi based franchise.

Hell who else even does non-terrestrial sci fi? Halo? And what else? Lost Planet? Gears? Sorta . .

Further I don't understand the idea that it's good for EA fans, and bad for everyone else. I don't care if a company gets a franchise, the only thing I care about is the end product. If the end product is good, it doesn't matter who made it. Now you can speculate that a product will not be good because EA is doing it, but until that product actually comes out it is all speculation.

Saviordd1:

Devoneaux:

Saviordd1:

Condescend much?

But please, tell me the part in the movies where it says "Luke, when you see the ghosts, you will see them how you imagine them" because otherwise its head canon or EU canon which is flimsy, at best.

Going by your logic my explanation of "He reverts back to his good self" is just as valid.

One's "moral standing" has nothing to do with how they look that's just asinine. Again, why does Aniken get a special set or rules when Yoda and Ben do not?

I don't know.

The same reason he changes his face and body completely if we go with the original version.

And yet it's still less of a stretch than Luke seeing young who-the-fuck-ever. This is like purposely making something even worse for no god damn reason.

Akalabeth:

Doom972:

Akalabeth:

I don't prefer that EA get exclusivity, I just don't have the knee jerk reaction that it's a bad thing like most people in this thread. Time will tell if it's a bad move or not.

As for why it CAN be a good thing? Because having development under one roof helps create consistency. Look at the development of the Avengers movie and all its predecessors to see what having everything under one roof can accomplish.

If given to a competent publisher, maybe. Knowing EA's history, I doubt that they'll care about consistency as much as Lucas Arts did. It's bad news for most gamers, but at least some EA fans will be satisfied.

Considering that the most popular space opera of this generation is Mass Effect, and given that Mass Effect is published by EA, I would think they'd have a better understanding than most publishers on how to deliver a good Star Wars product. They of course also have Deadspace, which is likewise another sci-fi based franchise.

Hell who else even does non-terrestrial sci fi? Halo? And what else? Lost Planet? Gears? Sorta . .

Further I don't understand the idea that it's good for EA fans, and bad for everyone else. I don't care if a company gets a franchise, the only thing I care about is the end product. If the end product is good, it doesn't matter who made it. Now you can speculate that a product will not be good because EA is doing it, but until that product actually comes out it is all speculation.

EA is the publisher not the developer. meaning they provide the funding and general direction for the games. it also really isnt the same as with your Avengers example.

the avengers and its prequals really follow one over arching story so they needed to have it in house for it all to work and for the movies to connect with eachother. however here that doesnt need to happen, yes maybe we will get several games with interconnecting stories but you dont need that to happen, KotOR and Battlefront and the Jedi Knight Series didnt connect at all and they were all good games.
also to use your avengers example The Amazing Spider man, wasnt connected to avengers, didnt need to and was by a different studio all together

at also means alot of talent is being cut off, Obsidian anybody? not to mention alot of people are disgruntled with Bioware and Visceral right now due to dead space and bioware's recent titles. and we then have the problem with alot of people being pissed at EA for their general direction in business and anti consumer tactics.

this isnt to say the games will suck, maybe they will be good but its definately not a good thing that EA has exclusive rights to this

spartandude:

at also means alot of talent is being cut off, Obsidian anybody? not to mention alot of people are disgruntled with Bioware and Visceral right now due to dead space and bioware's recent titles. and we then have the problem with alot of people being pissed at EA for their general direction in business and anti consumer tactics.

Obsidian? What?
I don't know about anyone else but I'd much rather Obsidian was working on Fallout 4: Seattle or whatever than fricken star wars.

Or put another way. Your favourite studio that makes your favourite games? I'd much rather have them working on properties other than Star Wars. I'd rather see Elder Scrolls VI than some star wars game. I'd rather see Deus Ex HR2 and Thief reboot2 than star wars. etcetera. I don't want any of my favourite developers tied up on star wars. I want them continuing to make new IPs or building upon IPs that I already love.

Fuck Star Wars. The games almost never match the movies to me anyway. Except for ye old Tie Fighter and X-Wing, but no publisher, including EA, is gonna throw money at a space sim.

Reyalsfeihc:
Wow, glad to see no one is throwing about any knee-jerk reactions here. Yes, EA has pulled some stupid s*** in the past couple of years, but let's think about the studios that they're handing the franchise off to, and what games will be handled by them.

We have DICE, which is the obvious contender to develop Battlefront 3. As someone who absolutely loved the early BF games, and Battlefield 3, I'm not too concerned about them getting their hands on the Battlefront IP. We're not going to see a super gritty, color drained Battlefront game, as Battlefield is that way simply because it's stylized, and that's the direction they're taking it in. There's a lot to learn from the style and color pallets of Battlefront 1 & 2, and I'm sure that DICE will realize this when/if they begin development. Also, they would be the most likely of the three studios to develop sequels to Republic Commando.

Visceral could easily also pick up Republic Commando, but I really see them picking up StarWars 1313 where it left off. The seedy underbelly vibe of the game fits with the darker themes of the Dead Space franchise, and their experience with 3rd Person shooter mechanics is the strongest of the three teams. What new games would come out of Visceral, I'm not sure. There are a lot of space combat games that are desperately crying out for sequels, but whether they would be picked up by Visceral who, as a studio is still in its infancy and not locked into a specific genre of video games, or by DICE who will have to have some experience under their belt with space combat to make a true sequel to BF2, is uncertain.

Bioware is arguably the most confusing of the three in terms of where their projects will take them. We'll probably see some KoToR-esque sequels to past franchises out of them, alongside continued development of The Old Republic until they run that into the ground. I'm unsure what new IP's will come out of their studios, as all I've ever known them for is Action-RPG's, but they definitely have the talent (at least outside of the writing department), to develop various types of titles.

All in all, we're talking about three well received (for the most part) studios with a bit of a troubled past in some regard, but all more than willing to handle new and old IP's within the Star Wars universe.

TL;DR: Let's put those torches and pitchforks on layaway until we see some actual product.

But the problem is that...

Dice is known for colorless FPS 20XX, and I personally can't stand the sloppiness of their control scheme.

Visceral is known for short, action-"survival horror" games.

Bioware is known for the shitty ending of ME3, the entirety of DA2, and the flop that is SWTOR.

However, perhaps the biggest problem is that...

EA is known to require micro transactions included in the game, kill originality in games to make them "safer" to appeal to a larger audience, destroy/corrupt companies/franchises they get their hooks into, and be guilty of general duchebagery.

So as far as EA is concerned...

Let me think,
Star Wars Battlefront style game running on the frostbite engine from Dice... Sounds fun I'll buy it
More Star Wars RPG games from Bioware... Hopefully it won't be an MMO, but overall, sounds good
And to be honest, this seems like an obvious choice due to the cooperation between Lucas Arts and EA on the Old Republic, and it might allow for more non-childish games to be made in the Star Wars Universe, which is always a plus.

Akalabeth:

spartandude:

at also means alot of talent is being cut off, Obsidian anybody? not to mention alot of people are disgruntled with Bioware and Visceral right now due to dead space and bioware's recent titles. and we then have the problem with alot of people being pissed at EA for their general direction in business and anti consumer tactics.

Obsidian? What?
I don't know about anyone else but I'd much rather Obsidian was working on Fallout 4: Seattle or whatever than fricken star wars.

Or put another way. Your favourite studio that makes your favourite games? I'd much rather have them working on properties other than Star Wars. I'd rather see Elder Scrolls VI than some star wars game. I'd rather see Deus Ex HR2 and Thief reboot2 than star wars. etcetera. I don't want any of my favourite developers tied up on star wars. I want them continuing to make new IPs or building upon IPs that I already love.

Fuck Star Wars. The games almost never match the movies to me anyway. Except for ye old Tie Fighter and X-Wing, but no publisher, including EA, is gonna throw money at a space sim.

uh..did you not play kotor 2? obsidian showed how star wars stories have been shit up until that point, then took a shit on top of all of that and made some of the best characters i've ever witnessed in games.

not to mention, they had been very hopeful on pitching ideas to disney, they had been wanting to make another star wars game for a while, which more than likely means they had some amazing ideas brewing up after kotor 2, which i would pay a fucking arm and a leg for to play.

clearly you don't want star wars to be good, which by all means, give it to EA if that is what you want to happen, i can agree with that, sink that ship so other better ships can move in to take its place.

also, aren't bethesda doing the next fallout piece? unless i'm completely missing news here, i never knew obsidian had anything to do wit the fallout franchise post new vegas.

gmaverick019:

Akalabeth:

spartandude:

at also means alot of talent is being cut off, Obsidian anybody? not to mention alot of people are disgruntled with Bioware and Visceral right now due to dead space and bioware's recent titles. and we then have the problem with alot of people being pissed at EA for their general direction in business and anti consumer tactics.

Obsidian? What?
I don't know about anyone else but I'd much rather Obsidian was working on Fallout 4: Seattle or whatever than fricken star wars.

Or put another way. Your favourite studio that makes your favourite games? I'd much rather have them working on properties other than Star Wars. I'd rather see Elder Scrolls VI than some star wars game. I'd rather see Deus Ex HR2 and Thief reboot2 than star wars. etcetera. I don't want any of my favourite developers tied up on star wars. I want them continuing to make new IPs or building upon IPs that I already love.

Fuck Star Wars. The games almost never match the movies to me anyway. Except for ye old Tie Fighter and X-Wing, but no publisher, including EA, is gonna throw money at a space sim.

uh..did you not play kotor 2? obsidian showed how star wars stories have been shit up until that point, then took a shit on top of all of that and made some of the best characters i've ever witnessed in games.

not to mention, they had been very hopeful on pitching ideas to disney, they had been wanting to make another star wars game for a while, which more than likely means they had some amazing ideas brewing up after kotor 2, which i would pay a fucking arm and a leg for to play.

clearly you don't want star wars to be good, which by all means, give it to EA if that is what you want to happen, i can agree with that, sink that ship so other better ships can move in to take its place.

also, aren't bethesda doing the next fallout piece? unless i'm completely missing news here, i never knew obsidian had anything to do wit the fallout franchise post new vegas.

In an ideal world Obsidian would declare TOR non cannon and then make KotOR III themselves.
then again in an ideal world LucasArts would have made a new Jedi Knight game rather than Force Unleashed and EA wouldnt hold exclusive rights to StarWars games

gmaverick019:

Akalabeth:

spartandude:

at also means alot of talent is being cut off, Obsidian anybody? not to mention alot of people are disgruntled with Bioware and Visceral right now due to dead space and bioware's recent titles. and we then have the problem with alot of people being pissed at EA for their general direction in business and anti consumer tactics.

Obsidian? What?
I don't know about anyone else but I'd much rather Obsidian was working on Fallout 4: Seattle or whatever than fricken star wars.

Or put another way. Your favourite studio that makes your favourite games? I'd much rather have them working on properties other than Star Wars. I'd rather see Elder Scrolls VI than some star wars game. I'd rather see Deus Ex HR2 and Thief reboot2 than star wars. etcetera. I don't want any of my favourite developers tied up on star wars. I want them continuing to make new IPs or building upon IPs that I already love.

Fuck Star Wars. The games almost never match the movies to me anyway. Except for ye old Tie Fighter and X-Wing, but no publisher, including EA, is gonna throw money at a space sim.

uh..did you not play kotor 2? obsidian showed how star wars stories have been shit up until that point, then took a shit on top of all of that and made some of the best characters i've ever witnessed in games.

Kotor2? You mean the game that allegedly had a terribly rushed and cut ending? That's the sort of star wars game you want? Ohhhhkay. And let me guess, you complained at some point about Mass Effect 3's ending right? And probably blamed it on EA as well. Makes perfect sense.

And no, I never played Kotor2. Why would I when Kotor1 bored me half way through and when everyone on the internet tells me that the second one has a shit ending? I simply don't like Bioware's RPGs from what I've played.

gmaverick019:

not to mention, they had been very hopeful on pitching ideas to disney, they had been wanting to make another star wars game for a while, which more than likely means they had some amazing ideas brewing up after kotor 2, which i would pay a fucking arm and a leg for to play.

clearly you don't want star wars to be good, which by all means, give it to EA if that is what you want to happen, i can agree with that, sink that ship so other better ships can move in to take its place.

What's wrong with you people hoping that thousands of people are going to lose their jobs? Because everyone hoping EA goes bankrupt or out of business is hoping exactly that. Oh what, you didn't think people actually worked at EA?

EA incidentally also benefits the game industry as a whole in many ways. They have the money and resources to train up new graduates in the industry. That's something that other developers simply don't have the resources to do. People get their feet wet, pay their dues, and then go work at your favourite developers.

If EA is making shit games then fine. But I don't hope they go out of business, I hope they start making better games. (where's that Mirror's Edge sequel)

gmaverick019:
also, aren't bethesda doing the next fallout piece? unless i'm completely missing news here, i never knew obsidian had anything to do wit the fallout franchise post new vegas.

Fallout 4 hasn't even been announced. But like Fallout 3, I would hope it has an Obsidian installment. More Fallout the better.

From all these comments I'm reading, everyone's more worried about EA than Disney? They think of Disney as the good guy, and this is their first dangerous, short-sighted decision? Huh. There's nothing wrong with that; I've just always thought of Disney as the supervillain. This is as much like a supervillain team-up as anything else. Disney holds a tight, tight leash on their properties, so I don't think any of EA's usual tomfoolery will ensue. Every mind-blowingly stupid or malicious decision will likely be on Disney's part, not Electronic Arts's.

Besides, what's the worst that could happen? It couldn't possibly be any more of a horrible, offensive mess than The Force Unleashed II, or I for that matter. Star Wars is at rock bottom, right? The only way to go is up.

SlightlyEvil:

INeedAName:
Out of all the publishers/developers, Disney...

I keep hearing this, and to counter it, I have only two words:

"The Avengers"

Keep an open mind. We'll declare how much it sucks after it comes out.

No, I think we can do this now.

If there EVER was a time when it was okay to jump to conclusions based on very little information. This is it. Why rain on the parade?

And if you are really so sure that whatever Star Wars game EA releases is gonna be awesome, put your money where mouth is, I will match it.

Of course this is the internet and you can't, but if you could, you wouldn't. It would be the stupidest bet in the history of gambling and nobody would ever make it no matter how many blows to the head they have had.

PrototypeC:
From all these comments I'm reading, everyone's more worried about EA than Disney? They think of Disney as the good guy, and this is their first dangerous, short-sighted decision? Huh. There's nothing wrong with that; I've just always thought of Disney as the supervillain. This is as much like a supervillain team-up as anything else. Disney holds a tight, tight leash on their properties, so I don't think any of EA's usual tomfoolery will ensue. Every mind-blowingly stupid or malicious decision will likely be on Disney's part, not Electronic Arts's.

Besides, what's the worst that could happen? It couldn't possibly be any more of a horrible, offensive mess than The Force Unleashed II, or I for that matter. Star Wars is at rock bottom, right? The only way to go is up.

No, I'm pretty sure you can still go horizontal, like a dog wiping his bum on your carpet.

Two posters already read my mind and posted my exact thoughts when I read the article: EA offered them massive moneybags for exclusive rights, and the fine print attached to this deal must be equally massive, with EA's current track record, Disney can't possibly expect more out of this deal than whatever fee they will charge EA for not fulfilling the contract.

I really like the supervillain team-up metaphor though, but really, don't those team-ups always fail because the villains end up backstabbing each other instead of actually working together?

Akalabeth:
snip, I don't feel like doing a quote tag war, i'll just say my piece and be done

the condescending tone and assumptions are just amazing. i truly appreciate it all.

1) the mass effect 3 ending is under MUCH different circumstances and retroactively broke much of the plot already built up, not to mention the last 5 minutes of fuck all, and if you honestly think they are similar situations then you have NOT been paying attention to the massive amount of threads on ME3/the ending. hell kotor 2's ending wasn't even bad, it was just broken and rushed out, with the restored content mod it is actually pretty smooth and is mediocre in the last minute or so of the ending. bioware and EA (they are basically one now) straight up lied about it while obsidian perfectly and openly admitted to it being a rush job, and wanted to fix it with a free patch that lucas arts wouldn't let them do, while bioware pulled the artistic integrity card over the bullshit it was.

2)i never said i hope all those people lose their jobs? Source needed. I said I hoped other better ships take EA's place, because I can't stand their higher ups; the people who run EA, i do NOT agree with at all when it comes to business policies and how to treat customers, and how often the IP's they get turn into shit fests, they need massive restructuring at the top, because they are on a road to nowhere where no one wins and everyone loses with how they do things.

3) ah so you do like obsidian then? yet you judge kotor 2 as shit before even playing it, wonderful, now i see why you like having a condescending tone, judging things based off assumptions rather than experience. Although I would agree, I would prefer a obsidian fallout installment, but after fallout 3 getting the score it did and new vegas getting an 84 and in turn them not getting their bonus, i don't think obsidian is really on good ties for another fallout. but hey, it could happen,

Ok, for this instance, since it seems like it's an internet-wide thing:

http://imgur.com/a/Ljyoe

Just putting it out there.

v3n0mat3:
Ok, for this instance, since it seems like it's an internet-wide thing:

http://imgur.com/a/Ljyoe

Just putting it out there.

That's my biggest problem with this. Those are all AWESOME studios, they've made great stuff before, and I have faith that they can make quality products again, espically with a licence as strong as Star Wars. But EA screws them over again and again. Mass Effect's writing problems and DLC, Dead Space's microtransactions and moving towards being a bland GoW clone, Dice being forced to make spunkgargleweewee to compete with CoD instead of being allowed to work on more interesting products. I love these studios, I love Star Wars, and under any other circumstances I would hapily buy anything they make. But EA always, always, always breaks the deal. I don't want to support a company that vile, short-sighted and consumer hating.

God I just hope this doesn't become Battlefield in Space, with you playing as a Stormtrooper trying to stop rebels from sneaking Space Nukes into some sandy planet...

Oh god I think I just gave them an idea.

one of the most infamous (and expensive) videogame train wrecks of all time, the Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO.

i think the writer is being unfairly negative to swtor. sure the first year was rocky, but the game attracted massive interest and to this day is considered one of the top tier mmos in the world. I hear things stabilized after the f2p transition.

gmaverick019:

Akalabeth:
snip, I don't feel like doing a quote tag war, i'll just say my piece and be done

the condescending tone and assumptions are just amazing. i truly appreciate it all.

1) the mass effect 3 ending is under MUCH different circumstances and retroactively broke much of the plot already built up, not to mention the last 5 minutes of fuck all, and if you honestly think they are similar situations then you have NOT been paying attention to the massive amount of threads on ME3/the ending. hell kotor 2's ending wasn't even bad, it was just broken and rushed out, with the restored content mod it is actually pretty smooth and is mediocre in the last minute or so of the ending. bioware and EA (they are basically one now) straight up lied about it while obsidian perfectly and openly admitted to it being a rush job, and wanted to fix it with a free patch that lucas arts wouldn't let them do, while bioware pulled the artistic integrity card over the bullshit it was.

"Wasn't bad . . just broken"
Oh okay, right, that makes sense buddy.

And here, Lucasarts and what's its face wouldn't fix the ending.
And yet EA/Bioware did release a new ending for free did they not?
That's something else you conveniently fail to mention.

So "I want more star wars games made by the company that's well known for releasing buggy products, and whose last star wars product had a rushed and broken ending which they failed to fix. And I don't want star wars games from the one publisher who has released the most popular sci-fi Action RPG of this generation with a scale and scope most approaching star wars, and who has released three quality games despite the lackluster ending which they released an alternate ending for free"

gmaverick019:

2)i never said i hope all those people lose their jobs? Source needed.

Are you living in a fantasy world? If EA goes out of business, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WILL BE OUT OF WORK.
So for all you short-sighted goofs saying "dur, I hope EA sinks fast" that's exactly what you're hoping for. EA is a corporation, but it's a corporation that employs A LOT OF PEOPLE. Quit dehumanizing the industry.

gmaverick019:

3) ah so you do like obsidian then? yet you judge kotor 2 as shit before even playing it, wonderful, now i see why you like having a condescending tone, judging things based off assumptions rather than experience. Although I would agree, I would prefer a obsidian fallout installment, but after fallout 3 getting the score it did and new vegas getting an 84 and in turn them not getting their bonus, i don't think obsidian is really on good ties for another fallout. but hey, it could happen,

Yeah nice try guy but your theory doesn't fit the facts.

If I played Kotor1 and found it underwhelming and got bored (EXPERIENCE), and if I've played even newer Bioware games like Mass Effect and got bored even faster(EXPERIENCE), then why would I play a sequel to KOTOR1 when both the first game bored me and when everyone says the ending is rushed and broken?

God dang it guys. It's EA, at least we GET star wars games. It's been a long time since we got a modern star wars game that rocks, and Force Unleashed 2 sucked . Just don't buy a used version of a game, and you will be fine.

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