Microsoft Warns: Don't Stand Your Xbox One Vertical

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MinionJoe:
*blink*blink*

Seriously?

They really did throw out the baby with the bathwater when they designed this thing, didn't they?

They decided the biggest problem was player choice.

Dragonbums:

Companies don't need to tell consumers not to put toasters on their side do they?

Toasters don't have a history of multiple positions. Least, not any toasters I'm familiar with.

Also, showing it in only one position doesn't indicate it's the only position it can be placed. It could well be that they were showing it that way because 80% of people place their 360s that way. You know, something they just stated.

Ne1butme:

Evil Smurf:
Wait.....So if I buy this thing which is $500+ I can't put it vertically? If I spend $500+ on a thing, I want to put it any orientation I please!

Microsoft is going to get the stupidest company in America award this year.

I know exactly what you mean. I spent way more than $500 on my car and it can only work when it's horizontal. I should be able to use my car when it's standing vertical. So stupid that Ford designed a car that way.

Slight issue with that side by side comparison.

All cars are never meant to be vertical. <_< Unless it's really a transformer.

Consoles however have a few reasons to be vertical.
1. To help it cool down a bit easier.
2. To make it easier to put in places you couldn't while it was horizontal.
And 3. Sometimes it looks cooler like that.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Evil Smurf:
Wait.....So if I buy this thing which is $500+ I can't put it vertically? If I spend $500+ on a thing, I want to put it any orientation I please!

Microsoft is going to get the stupidest company in America award this year.

If I buy a bluray player for that money I probably won't be able to put it vertically either. Not without risking breaking it.

Come on people. So you have to keep it horizontal, big fucking deal.

Also, while it's indeed not a major feature, it has been around for consoles since the PS2(though it was a bit iffy back then), and was with all the consoles of the last gen.

It's not a major issue, yes. Just an annoyance. However, it's yet another annoyance for the X-Box One.

;D X-Box One. The One. The Annoying One.

CriticalMiss:
Move over Red Ring of Death, here comes the Vertical Slot of Death (not to be confused with the Vertical Slot of Embarrasing Rashes).

<_<

Anyway.

I don't think we should be sounding the call of death just yet. I mean, Microsoft wouldn't let such a thing happen to them again. Especially now with all the eyes on them.

<_> Right?

I don't know about anyone else, but I have a TV that barely fits on my entertainment set. My Xbox 360 HAS to stand vertically to fit on the set or I can't use it. I don't have the space or the cord length to have it positioned to Microsoft's preferred orientation.

But, then again, Microsoft's latest business model appears to be "alienate everyone who does not live in a house with a fifteen by fifteen foot living room and perfect internet connection in every room", because NO ONE who is interested in playing their console lives in an apartment, or dormitory, or trailer, or mobile home, or townhouse, or condo where space is limited and internet connections are wonky. Nope. Microsoft doesn't serve that minority of gamers because, according to their research, they don't exist.

Dragonbums:

The 360 however is often shown being oriented in both positions.

However the Xbox One has only been showed to be place horizontal.
Thus one can deduce that that is how you place the device.

Companies don't need to tell consumers not to put toasters on their side do they?

That analogy supports the opposite of your point. People don't need to be told what way toasters go because toasters are not new (nor designed to be stable on their sides, usually - but you could totally make a horizontal toaster if you wanted). People have been using toasters for a long time so they carry on using them how they're used to.

Similarly, if people have been using their 360/PS3 vertically for much of the last decade, the idea that the option may not be available for the XBOne may not even cross their minds, they may just assume it'll continue working as it always has.

Ads simply not showing the console horizontal helps, but does not explicitly draw attention to fact that it is required, and could very well pass unnoticed. If you have a history of supporting something, that something no longer being supported is not going to be obvious simply because you stop showing it. It is not obvious, and announcements like this are very much needed and still may not be enough. In reality, the only reliable way to make people aware of this change in available placement options is to design the console to not be stable on it's side.

Albert Panello:
It wouldn't be a cooling problem..

Then it is, almost certainly, a cooling problem. That and they just can't get a good enough design to compensate for vibrations in the disk drive on a vertical stance.

MinionJoe:
throw out the baby with the bathwater

For all my interest in the Xbox One, I think this is literally the most interesting thing to come out of this news.

When did that expression originate? Where?

It is kind of a nuisance. I have quite a small room. Standing my consoles on the side means I can fit them all to one side of my tv. The only way I could manage that with consoles horizontal is to stack them which would be stupid.

This really isn't as bad as it sounds, but from reading the comments it's not something the people want. They, MS, have designed the Xbox One to sit horizontally. It's not a flaw, they made it that way. Blu-ray, stereos, dvd players, they all have to do that same. Sure the 360 gave you the choice, but now there is no such option. The original Xbox didn't sit vertical either. If lacking the feature is a deal breaker, I can't see how the other things they did or didn't do hadn't bothered you more.

Adam Jensen:

MinionJoe:
They really did throw out the baby with the bathwater when they designed this thing, didn't they?

Everything about it screams bad design. Not trustworthy at all. And then you have to remember the 30% failure rate of Xbox 360 back in the day. That was unacceptable. I sure as hell wouldn't risk buying a new Microsoft console on launch for that reason alone.

This could be a significant limitation. For example, I would have to keep it on the floor. Which would make it run hotter. I literally don't have enough space for this thing anywhere else.

30%? I thought the failure rate of the first generation Xbox 360's was closer to 70%. Only statistic I can find was a Gamespot poll that used a pool of 5,000 subscribers. The result was a 54.2% failure rate. Hell the first 360 I bought died in 6 months, I actually ended up going through some 4 other systems after that too. None of them lasted longer than a year, truly shameful really. I was a fool to keep buying them but I did. I have a generation 1 PS3 I got second hand and it STILL WORKS FINE.

OT: Good God, it looks like a top loading VCR and you are required to treat it as much now? How long until we get reports of this thing burning up due to ventilation problems I wonder...

Captcha: more better... not in this case.

Way xbone one has been handled sofar just seems to me ms decided they could toss anything out and the xbox 360 people would eat it up, hard not to blame them when so many trolls act like the 360 was some sort of god that could do no wrong.

Guess they found out wrong.

Bottom line at best it is a design flaw, at worst its just cheap parts in a cheap system that will have a bare minimum 30% fail rate every few months, phone microsoft to send them naked pics of you, and report you to the feds for smoking a doobie.

At lest this gen will be somewhat interesting with MS, that lets face it had a lock after last gen over its main rival sony, out of the gate shooting itself in the foot over and over, now lets see if sony can short ship another playstation launch and shoot itself in the foot.

He didn't say anything about not having it upside down guys, no worries.

Vie:

WickedFire:
Is it me, or does just scream shoddy, cheap, parts? Considering the Wii, and PS3 (the first and second iterations at any rate) had slot loading drives and could be stood vertical, how poor a drive do you need so that this is problem?

Exactly the thought I had, makes you wonder just how deep MS's accountants claws dug into the development of the XBone.

I mean the freaking Wii has a multi-orientation drive, how cheap are these fools?

Very cheap. Remember, the original idea was to use the drive just for installation purposes. After that you wouldn't need the disk. So they used the cheapest drives they could find. But when the time came to reverse the mandatory HDD installs, they didn't bother to change the quality of the drive. Even without putting it vertically, the drive is still a cheap one and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the first thing to go.

Arawn:
This really isn't as bad as it sounds, but from reading the comments it's not something the people want. They, MS, have designed the Xbox One to sit horizontally. It's not a flaw, they made it that way. Blu-ray, stereos, dvd players, they all have to do that same. Sure the 360 gave you the choice, but now there is no such option. The original Xbox didn't sit vertical either. If lacking the feature is a deal breaker, I can't see how the other things they did or didn't do hadn't bothered you more.

I really think its just one of those "another thing about the xbox one". To me this isnt a big deal at all, my 360 is horizontal and i dont have much issue with space, most people are probably the same, but when Microsoft has announced so much shit, even the tiny little things like this are annoying as its adding some more wood to the fire (even if its a little twig)

It's all a ruse. They just don't want you to recognise it's true form:

image

/lame joke

Honestly, the DVD drive can't be as bad as the previous consoles. Both my original Xbox and 360 stuck something stupid, to the point where I have to bash my 360 quite hard to jump the tray out. One day it'll just cease function altogether.

There isnt enough space in my desk for an horizontal console, the monitor and surround sistem take 80% of the space, cant put the monitor on top of the console or the console on top of the surround and under the desk is my pc and enough space for my legs.
Another reason not to buy the thing,at least for my

The day I bought my 360, I turned it vertically. After a couple hours the game stopped working. I opened it up, and the game was scratched horribly. I exchanged the game and the 360, but and have not once turned a console vertically in years.

Dragonbums:
The 360 however is often shown being oriented in both positions.

However the Xbox One has only been showed to be place horizontal.
Thus one can deduce that that is how you place the device.

Companies don't need to tell consumers not to put toasters on their side do they?

Toasters didn't just go through an entire generation where either position was possible. Consoles did. This is no longer a given and so yes, they do need to specify it as 20% of gamers place their consoles vertically at the moment. That's no small number. That the Wii, WiiU(?), ps3, ps4, and 360 makes this a noteworthy step backwards from freedom of placement.

I mean, not noteworthy because it matters. Just noteworthy to let people know not to do it.

This just reminds me that the Playstation emblem on my PS3 can actually be turned so it's rightside up when vertical or horizontal. It's such a little thing, but the click it makes is kind of satisfying.

Anyway, I think maybe they might want to make this a bigger announcement so people don't end up bricking their console.

this is not worth getting worked up about. btw didnt you all already buy a ps4 anyway.

Hazy992:
Pretty sure the Wii, PS3 and PS4 could be stood vertically and they've all got slot loading drives...

The NSA chip feeding kinect data to them probably doesn't work if faced vertical.

*this is just a bad joke fyi not to be taken seriously*

The Wii, PS2 & PS3 can load games vertically, so does the 360 (if you're very careful, because it can give your disc a very nasty scratch that renders the disc unusable), I'm honestly curious to know if the PS4 can let you stand the console vertically, because by the looks of it, it's very probable it does.

Are people seriously upset over this?

Come on, people, even fucking reddit is done with the ceaseless Microsoft vitriol, and I don't think they could bring themselves to beat a horse that's still breathing.

This is like complaining that you can't put it upside down.

I don't see a problem with this.
My own uneducated guess is that the majority of people don't place their consoles vertical. I myself don't.
Additionally to that before the Wii, Xbox360 and PS3 arrived it was pretty normal to have a console in its horizontal position as the hatches of the drives demanded.
Placing them horizontal also adds security since they can't be knocked over or fall over.
All in all I consider the vertical stance a vanity option with little to no value.

This however doesn't change that I currently have no desire to buy an Xbox One...

MinionJoe:
The advantage I have for vertical over horizontal is more than just space though. One, the 360 cools better when vertical. Granted, this may not be the case for the XB1.

Which version of it are you referring to? I used to have a 360 Elite, which did cool better when vertical, as that was the best way to get airflow over the fans. When that red ringed, I got the 360 Slim, which cools a lot better when horizontal. This is because it has cooling vents (not sure if there are fans in all of them) on top, and both sides, but nothing underneath. Which means if I set it vertically, I block a vent.

OT: I don't see the problem here. At least they've told people, instead of people finding out because their drives freak out because they're placed vertically. I get that some people (especially students and such) might have space issues, but those can usually be overcome. I very much doubt I'll get an XB1, but this won't be a factor in that, there are enough other reasons to stick with my current consoles and PC, and consider a PS4 sometime in the future.

Arawn:
This really isn't as bad as it sounds, but from reading the comments it's not something the people want. They, MS, have designed the Xbox One to sit horizontally. It's not a flaw, they made it that way. Blu-ray, stereos, dvd players, they all have to do that same. Sure the 360 gave you the choice, but now there is no such option. The original Xbox didn't sit vertical either. If lacking the feature is a deal breaker, I can't see how the other things they did or didn't do hadn't bothered you more.

Ishigami:
I don't see a problem with this.
My own uneducated guess is that the majority of people don't place their consoles vertical. I myself don't.
Additionally to that before the Wii, Xbox360 and PS3 arrived it was pretty normal to have a console in its horizontal position as the hatches of the drives demanded.
Placing them horizontal also adds security since they can't be knocked over or fall over.
All in all I consider the vertical stance a vanity option with little to no value.

This however doesn't change that I currently have no desire to buy an Xbox One...

It's not like standing consoles on their side is this new idea. It's been around for a while. The main reason that this has people up in arms is because it shows there is quite possibly a design flaw in the cooling system, so this is also showing design flaws before the console is released. Given the horrible failure rate when the 360 was released this has made some more people shy away from it too. It very well may not be the cooling system that is the issue but regardless there is still some form of design flaw there and The Xbox One really can't handle any more of those before they just start filling the shipping boxes with rocks.

Okay fair enough, but what I want to know is if I can play it while in the bath.

I keep my Xbox 360 horizontally anyway because sod taking out discs from a vertical one. Also that way I can keep my PlayStation 2 on the same 'shelf' so I won't treat the Xbox One any different.

Why did they have to tell us to do that anyway? Oh wait I forgot every time Microsoft announces anything it's for the sake of comedy. But this will just give people a reason to call the Xbox One the shittest thing evarr! so... /shrug.

erm ... what? o.0

so wait, we have 2 consoles out now with this slot loader, both can be stood up right (one is only ever shown that way) with a third on the way, same tech, also shown up right.(can the WiiU be stood up like the Wii? never seen it shown that way, if so, make that 4 consoles)

And MS can't make their console do the same? o.o wot ... I feel some one should be fired for this, fired for pure stupidity in the design process.

This a very mild inconvenience at worst. Hard to imagine how it would be a dealbreaker.

can't put it vertical eh?

What assholes.

I mean next they'll be telling us that it can't work under water or when it's on fire.

I mean where do Microsoft get off...#anticonsumerism

Ok, so now I'll be waiting to see how many xbone will be ruined because consumers didn't get this memo.

Can I put it front down? Cause, If I'm shelling out $500 for this thing, I fully expect it should practically be doing push ups for me to insert the disk.

I never put my machines vertical, cept for my Wii since it's designed that way and came with a stand.

Don't worry Microsoft, I won't stand my Xbone vertical.

'Cause it's staying on the store shelf. image

(Serious response: there's no reason we shouldn't be able to stand it vertically. I can think of four other consoles capable of doing so.)

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