"Rape Game" On Amazon Triggers Anger, Outrage

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Pseudonym2:

Lukeje:

Pseudonym2:
...most of the intergender violence is also male to female...

Source?

An documentary called Tough Guise. It's ten years old, but I doubt much has changed.

Here's a transcript, http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=211 .

A lot has changed since then. Not in the amount of incidents, but in the realisation that domestic violence against men was actually horrendously underreported. See here which suggests that two sexes are actually about equally violent to each other (alright, I will admit that the website is all about domestic abuse against men and is therefore somewhat biased. It still makes some good points though).

fish food carl:

CantFaketheFunk:
... Japan never ceases to amaze.

Screw that, the human race is doomed. It always amazed me, but now I'm off to mars. Anybody else coming?

Yeah, let me just go pick up my stuff.

*Looks at OP*

"Uh Huh"

*Grabs shot-gun and walks of whistling*.

But seriously Rape is wrong.

sirdanrhodes:

fish food carl:

CantFaketheFunk:
... Japan never ceases to amaze.

Screw that, the human race is doomed. It always amazed me, but now I'm off to mars. Anybody else coming?

Yeah, let me just go pick up my stuff.

Yeah, wait up just let me kill some people and I'll be there.

...........who was debating that? we're not talking about rape, we're talking about rape porn that is technically a simulation videogame.

I clicked on the link thinking "What the Hell?". Then I saw it was Japanese and Hentai and realized I was no longer surprised or bothered. Japan loves it. It's a culture they've nurtured - I shouldn't be surprised. I don't like anything that promotes rape as being acceptable but it's not unexpected.

Gormourn:
Who gives a shit?

It certainly is no worse then GTA morally.

The whole point of the game is raping people and encouraging others to rape with you. GTA has a story and many different facets. Morally, GTA is on top of Everest compared to a rape game.

Caliostro:

Games like Manhunt, Postal 2, GTA, Hitman... They are way more sadistic than a "rape simulator".

I'll admit there are two games that I found that come close to the sadism of that game. The first is Postal 1, where the normal gameplay is a pacman-esque slaughter; but there's one point where you actually watch someone beg for mercy as you slowly bring the pistol to their eyes.
At that point I stopped playing.(The other is City of Villains btw)

The point where you empathize with the victim just before you kill them is the line that crosses over into immorality.

With that game, it's the focus of the entire game, and to make it worse, the game is designed to allow you to get your jollies off from the suffering of others. Not the other sins but the actual suffering.

Would you feel the same way about "Prison Simulator: Don't drop the soap", where you had to be the victim in order to gain favours?

The line is sadism; and GTA, Syndicate or even Manhunt don't do that.

That's why it's worse. And no further argument from me on this, I already feel sullied.

I'm confused, this is porn disguised as a game.

Lots of people like their rape fantasies and as long as they're fantasies there's not a single thing wrong with that.

Here in the UK we've recently had a law passed, think it's called something like the Extreme Pornography law, that outlaws portrayals of rape in porn, so it is illegal to sell such a game here, whether or not I agree with the law, I can't argue that taking this game off of the website wasn't the right thing to do, according to our law.

There free to make whatever fucked up games they want, I'm just not going to buy it.

Damn, it should've been for the Wii...anyway, there's worse stuff out there.

True, the highly detailed rape of a ten year old girl is truly messed up, but it ain't the end of the world, even if somebody gets the idea to go out and actually try to rape someone, though hopefully for the rapee, the gamer wouldn't be a long time player of DDR, haha...

The_root_of_all_evil:
Would you feel the same way about "Prison Simulator: Don't drop the soap", where you had to be the victim in order to gain favours?

Ya know, I would play that game. Would be funny as hell. Plus there are no "victims" of prison rape. You commit a crime you get your just punishment.

Brokkr:
I'm not too surprised to see something like this coming out of Japan.

nope, not in the least Surprised

Rape in hentai games isn't something new, and it isn't different to any other hentai game, exept that the sex here is called rape... There are enough films and books about rape which haven't been banned. If it should be banned, then for simulated sexual intercourse with a minor, because the younger sister is clearly underaged.

Jeez, I wonder what the target audience of this game is?

Was curious so I found a torrent for it. I just finished a session of this game. I lol'd hard. I don't imagine anyone to have any sexual pleasure out of that. ON THE OTHER SIDE I really like japanese visual novels, as I am a real fan of drama [ yeah, guys like that exist.. sad, but true ]. This though, I don't see why anyone has blown the whistle.

I agree rape is morally explicit, but the way it was shown there is simply .. well, laughable? Call me perverted, but if possible I like to see on my own eyes then evaluate.

CantFaketheFunk:
... Japan never ceases to amaze.

ditto

A Rape game is no worse than a game where your killing people....

This game and Unagi are two more reasons to visit JAPAN

seydaman:

Zippy1313:
For whatever reason... I want this game.

i too

Why could you possibly want a game like this?

I don't see such a problem with this game. As long as parents don't buy it for their 5 year old kids.

101194:
There free to make whatever fucked up games they want, I'm just not going to buy it.

Its (sadly) been made for people that are...hhmmm..interested? in this i would hardly call this a fetish because that just seems the easy way around it.I'm not really surprised by this game...everyone is quick to shrug it off and say

''that's japan for you''

''where else but japan''

that's f**king stupid because then that gets used as a excuse for it to be ''ok''.japan seems to have always pushed it to far..and its always in hentai or hentai games.I've seen some that are terrible (can't say why) but this is disgusting and its makes japan look bad as well!

goodman528:
I don't see such a problem with this game. As long as parents don't buy it for their 5 year old kids.

its as if saying ''rape'' is ok =/

You gotta love Japan!

Svenparty:
A Rape game is no worse than a game where your killing people....

This game and Unagi are two more reasons to visit JAPAN

I've seen this idiotic argument at least a dozen times in this thread and I've replied to it once. Clearly what I said didn't get through.

Most "killing" games out there with the exception of truly messed up games like Grand Theft Auto have on major difference. The person you're killing is also trying to kill you. What screwed up world do you live in where an enemy combatant is on the same level as a rape victim? I doubt if this game is a "rape or be raped" scenario, it seems to be centered solely around the theme of rape.

Honestly, the moronic arguments I've seen trying to justify this game make me ashamed to be a gamer.

Hooray for the First Amendment? Here in the US we can make all the crazy porn games we want because we have the right to free speech.

Then the problem becomes, who will buy them? Or sell them for that matter?

mspencer82:

truly messed up games like Grand Theft Auto.

Urrrm...So your not into controversial titles huh?

But you could have a HUGE onion layered discussion about "[game Hero] and his right to kill people that are going to kill him", plus Japan have extremely different culture to USA and UK they sell girls underpants in Vending Machines and find Schoolgirl uniforms MOAR arousing...
Japan FTW

There are US games based around killing and like Game Heroes don't realistically give a crap about anyone they kill it's the same with the Surprise Sex videogame.

Svenparty:

mspencer82:

truly messed up games like Grand Theft Auto.

Urrrm...So your not into controversial titles huh?

But you could have a HUGE onion layered discussion about "[game Hero] and his right to kill people that are going to kill him", plus Japan have extremely different culture to USA and UK they sell girls underpants in Vending Machines and find Schoolgirl uniforms MOAR arousing...
Japan FTW

There are US games based around killing and like Game Heroes don't realistically give a crap about anyone they kill it's the same with the Surprise Sex videogame.

There's controversial and just plain sick, this game clearly falls into the latter category. And don't pull that "different culture" B.S., cultural differences do not excuse rape.

mspencer82:

There's controversial and just plain sick, this game clearly falls into the latter category. And don't pull that "different culture" B.S., cultural differences do not excuse rape.

I mean they are less offended in Japan than over here-different culture just like the way American people think differently than people in Marakesh etc

That is why they have Panty Vending Machines and stuff in Japan

Sick here<----America
Controversial There<----Japan

fix-the-spade:

Gormourn:
And we consider games where killing a shitload of random and usually more or less innocent people as norm too, and so what?

It's not scary, games like this existed for years and years now.

True, it is weird that we can all play games about mass murder and not feel any guilt. Maybe it's down the way death inevitably cathes up with everyone, or the constant bombardment of it in every other media as well as games, we just seem to be more tolerant of killing.

I can't really explain it but I don't think that one can be used to justify the other. Rape is quite a bit more personal than mowing down 200 generic baddies.

well in the most games and movies the guys you kill are always bad guys so thats possibly why it feels better to play games where you kill people then games where you rape people. and even if you play GTA you can just imagine that the ones you kill are bad guys...thats a little harder to imagine in rape games.

Admittedly, rape is more taboo in the west, so that's going to affect opinion. But comparing it to killing in games is forgetting the context. If the rape in this 'game' was replaced with violence, would the west recieve it with open arms? I don't think so.

sorry user name taken.:

goodman528:
I don't see such a problem with this game. As long as parents don't buy it for their 5 year old kids.

its as if saying ''rape'' is ok =/

SAYING "rape" is perfectly fine.

sorry user name taken.:

101194:
There free to make whatever fucked up games they want, I'm just not going to buy it.

Its (sadly) been made for people that are...hhmmm..interested? in this i would hardly call this a fetish because that just seems the easy way around it.I'm not really surprised by this game...everyone is quick to shrug it off and say

''that's japan for you''

''where else but japan''

that's f**king stupid because then that gets used as a excuse for it to be ''ok''.japan seems to have always pushed it to far..and its always in hentai or hentai games.I've seen some that are terrible (can't say why) but this is disgusting and its makes japan look bad as well!

It is a fetish.

No, shut up. That's never been an excuse for it to be "ok", it's just that japan has a different view of sex than America atleast. You can't push hentai too far without making one of the characters mock and look like a real specified person. Yes, it's disgusting but it's a fetish and it's a non-harmful way to live it out. Japan doesn't seem to care how messed up they look to us.

mspencer82:

Svenparty:

mspencer82:

truly messed up games like Grand Theft Auto.

Urrrm...So your not into controversial titles huh?

But you could have a HUGE onion layered discussion about "[game Hero] and his right to kill people that are going to kill him", plus Japan have extremely different culture to USA and UK they sell girls underpants in Vending Machines and find Schoolgirl uniforms MOAR arousing...
Japan FTW

There are US games based around killing and like Game Heroes don't realistically give a crap about anyone they kill it's the same with the Surprise Sex videogame.

There's controversial and just plain sick, this game clearly falls into the latter category. And don't pull that "different culture" B.S., cultural differences do not excuse rape.

It's as if, half of us lost our brain function as soon as we clicked on this thread. IT'S NOT RAPE!! IT'S RAPE PORN!! There is a big fucking difference between porn and a real person being sexually violated against their will.

Also, they just don't give a dame about close things to this, like sex simulators. While almost everyone here would find a sex simulator videogame insane.

kvenox:

fix-the-spade:

Gormourn:
And we consider games where killing a shitload of random and usually more or less innocent people as norm too, and so what?

It's not scary, games like this existed for years and years now.

True, it is weird that we can all play games about mass murder and not feel any guilt. Maybe it's down the way death inevitably cathes up with everyone, or the constant bombardment of it in every other media as well as games, we just seem to be more tolerant of killing.

I can't really explain it but I don't think that one can be used to justify the other. Rape is quite a bit more personal than mowing down 200 generic baddies.

well in the most games and movies the guys you kill are always bad guys so thats possibly why it feels better to play games where you kill people then games where you rape people. and even if you play GTA you can just imagine that the ones you kill are bad guys...thats a little harder to imagine in rape games.

You know they're not bad guys and no one does that. IF anything they pretend they're killing tons of nuns.

mspencer82:

Svenparty:
A Rape game is no worse than a game where your killing people....

This game and Unagi are two more reasons to visit JAPAN

I've seen this idiotic argument at least a dozen times in this thread and I've replied to it once. Clearly what I said didn't get through.

Most "killing" games out there with the exception of truly messed up games like Grand Theft Auto have on major difference. The person you're killing is also trying to kill you. What screwed up world do you live in where an enemy combatant is on the same level as a rape victim? I doubt if this game is a "rape or be raped" scenario, it seems to be centered solely around the theme of rape.

Honestly, the moronic arguments I've seen trying to justify this game make me ashamed to be a gamer.

Than argue against GTA, something that isn't social taboo except among soccer moms. Also, playing GTA is living a fantasy, just like the rape game. I've always wanted to go on the street looking for anyone who has an annoying voice so I could beat them up over the head with a bat. If some guy has a rape fetish or whatever I don't see how it's much different.

There's a bit of overreaction here because it's not surprising AT ALL to see another game like that from Japan. I'm just quite intrigued.

And the stick gets another inch.

I am absolutely shocked that a game about rape caused an uproar. Almost as shocked as when the release of GTAIV caused the media to report every carjacking and burglary as GTA-inspired.

tustin2121:
I'm going to be a conspiracy theorist right now and say that Isn't it a coincidence that these guys accused of there being rape in video games and then a year later, you know, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY TAKES TO MAKE A MODESTLY PLAYABLE VIDEO GAME, this game appears on the market?

About that...The game is a few years old by now. I already knew of this game a few years back. It sounded silly so I tried it, and yes, very silly. Incredibly offensive to pompous asses who can't deal with other cultures and rape victims. Majorly offensive to people to know rape victims, and minorly offensive and disturbing but rather ignorable for people such as myself. I wish these anti-video game people would realize most gamers are indeed capable of distinguishing between a game and reality.

fish food carl:

CantFaketheFunk:
... Japan never ceases to amaze.

Screw that, the human race is doomed. It always amazed me, but now I'm off to mars. Anybody else coming?

ill follow you to mars and this is plain old weird and creepy and wow the only thing to make it better is zombies

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