Image of Assassins Creed III's main character leaked

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Plinglebob:
While it being set in the American Revolution isn't any sort of a shock, the idea of using a Native American feels slightly forced and I'm not looking foward to how bad they make the Brits out to be *cough*The Patriot*cough*.

Those are my main concerns as well. Maybe they can't have full support for the people who came closer than anyone to wiping an entire race out, but they could've been a bit more subtle. As for the British... That'll decide whether or not I buy the game.

tr00per7:
why do people keep bloody suggesting the damn french revolution over the american revolution? The American revolution happend first, in 1776ish and ended around 1781 while the french revolution started in 1789 and ended in 1799. So timewise it makes more sense and also its more intresting. The french revolution really only involved french, but as others have mention the american revolution included americans, brits, french, germans, spanish, native americans and african americans, im sure we'll get more variation out of that.

and those suggesting japan or china? thats too different! Besides, doesnt the game revolve a lot around western politics and christianity, so it wouldnt really fit much with the story fighting ninjas and samurais in japan or warrior monks in china for not much reason.

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...I for once announce that the Mexican fight between the Monarchists French Puppet government and Mexican revolutionists is better than the American Revolution. Here. screw the American Revolution.
It ties itself to the Monarchists abroad - Spain, Belgium, France's Napoleon - and also the Americans after their own revolution as they helped fund the opposition to the second Mexican Empire.
...Did you learn something new?

The Madman:
Eug, of all the amazing times they could have gone with over the course of history, all the little known time periods with huge story potential they went with the *that*. Another opportunity to go all 'AMERICA YEAH!' and so on...

Ah I'm probably being unfair and it's not like I was a big fan of the series to begin with anyway. Still I can't help but think there are so many other setting which could have been so much more interesting.

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They cater their audience, pure and simple. The same reason why you don't often see protagonists in the Mexican military as the good guys fighting against Mexican Criminals that work for the drug cartels.

RedBird:
I hate to buzzkill a bit, (and believe me thats such fucking win I actually hate myself a bit for bringing this up, SOMEONE PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG) but if this is real...Well, it can't be without some serious ret-cons or Loopholage or plot twists etc. Theres no way This can happen, or at least, the main character can't be NATIVE american, and if he is he can't be related to Dezzy wezzy. Think about it, ubisoft (Twats that they are) Have already confirmed Ezio and Altair aren't related, So Desmond Has Ezio's Italian genes on one side and Altairs Syrian on the other. If this is genuine the dude can't be native american, or at least not FULLY native American.
Unless Ezio had another mid life crisis inbetween Revelations and Embers, sailed to undicovered america and shagged someone.
Actually, thats kinda plausible, Ezio IS a bit of a boss...

I decided to go to the Wiki page for assassins creed series to check out this new character. It gives a reason why character looks native american. I'll put it in spoiler below so someone doesn't read it by accident.

BakaSmurf:

Being one of the few people that's going to genuinely miss Ezio kind of irks me though... Really, what is it everyone has against him?

Did people really not like Ezio? I definently preferred him over Altair, and he couldn't of been a totally shit character, judging that he was in 3/4 of the series' games.

MEEBO17:

BakaSmurf:

Being one of the few people that's going to genuinely miss Ezio kind of irks me though... Really, what is it everyone has against him?

Did people really not like Ezio? I definently preferred him over Altair, and he couldn't of been a totally shit character, judging that he was in 3/4 of the series' games.

A good 80% of the time I hear people refer to Ezio they're mentioning how glad they are that he won't be in the next game, sometimes they say they just want a new historical PC, other times they outright state that they dislike the guy for being a 'stereotypical Italian revenge character.' I don't get it myself, I found the guy to be pretty likable overall.

I'm honestly O.K. with the American Revolution thing. I mean, Desmond is kind of...American. We'd have to go to the country at some point. From both a gameplay and literary standpoint, the American Revolution makes sense. Is it the most interesting? Of course not. Is ok? Sure.

I mean, throwing in the assassin-y backstory with country's civil war is more difficult than a war between a rebelling colonel and a then-world power, especially considering the fact that explaining templar influence is easier here than say, the American Civil War. That is not to say that the templars didn't obviously spread their interest to the new North American state at some point, though.

Also, the same AC feel would be lost amidst the (more) technologically advanced wars of the 20th century (Crimean, WWI + II, Mexican Revolution, etc.). Setting the game in this point allows you to maintain the same feel because guns were still not greatest in the 18th century, although they'd be admittedly better than the gun(s) found in AC:Brotherhood and Revelations.

In conclusion, while the American Revolutionary War may not be the coolest new setting for the game, it should prove to be enjoyable, especially when you throw a tomahawk into the mix with hidden blades, poisons and bullets. I'm looking forward to this game, considering Ubisoft hasn't greatly disappointed me, yet (although the AC:R character designs were kind of...meh). I just hope they don't extend the new ancestor's story out like they did Ezio, or at least make him a good enough character if they do. I'm still looking forward to epic underground temple alien-futuristic parkour in Assassin's Creed: Desmond's Story.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to actually start playing Assassin's Creed Brotherhood so as to play catch up...

The Madman:
Eug, of all the amazing times they could have gone with over the course of history, all the little known time periods with huge story potential they went with the *that*. Another opportunity to go all 'AMERICA YEAH!' and so on...

Ah I'm probably being unfair and it's not like I was a big fan of the series to begin with anyway. Still I can't help but think there are so many other setting which could have been so much more interesting.

I'm a fan of the games but I threw up in my mouth a little when I saw it was going to be set in America. So many better times to set it in than American Revolution.

Domehammer:

RedBird:
I hate to buzzkill a bit, (and believe me thats such fucking win I actually hate myself a bit for bringing this up, SOMEONE PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG) but if this is real...Well, it can't be without some serious ret-cons or Loopholage or plot twists etc. Theres no way This can happen, or at least, the main character can't be NATIVE american, and if he is he can't be related to Dezzy wezzy. Think about it, ubisoft (Twats that they are) Have already confirmed Ezio and Altair aren't related, So Desmond Has Ezio's Italian genes on one side and Altairs Syrian on the other. If this is genuine the dude can't be native american, or at least not FULLY native American.
Unless Ezio had another mid life crisis inbetween Revelations and Embers, sailed to undicovered america and shagged someone.
Actually, thats kinda plausible, Ezio IS a bit of a boss...

I decided to go to the Wiki page for assassins creed series to check out this new character. It gives a reason why character looks native american. I'll put it in spoiler below so someone doesn't read it by accident.

Being Half Native American makes alot of sense, the French were known to intermarry with the Native Americans so it wouldn't be unrealistic if one of Ezio's of Altiar's ancestors was a French explorer.

AC: The Napoleonic Wars would have been cool....... and the whole french developer thing, it would have made sense.

Nope.

One thing, he doesn't blend in.

I'm not a fan of the AC Series, but I always liked how the costumes had a practical approach to them.

Altair's costume is almost an exact mimic of the monk's robes, which allowed him to easily blend in to his surroundings and coneal himself when needed.

Ezio's was a little less practical, but you could still maybe see some high profile/value person walking around in it. Plus it also reflected the era and setting.

This new costume does the latter, it reflects the era and setting but isn't practical IN THE SLIGHTEST.

It looks like a bastardization between Old West and Old Testament..... I mean, take a look at the fashion of the time. Very plain and bold colours, while this guy will stick out like a sore thumb.

awesome i can kill americans

I've been debating for some time with my friends as to when the next AC takes place, so we took bets. Looks like they owe $20.

It's so hard to hate Ubisoft when they keep this kind of awesome crap up.

Guess I'll be buying it used, then.

They obeyed my cardinal rule; add a bow and arrow, and an axe (hatchet, tomahawk, etc.) and you get my vote.

I really don't like the costume. It just doesn't work, the point of the outfit in the original was to blend in. Disguising yourself among priests was a big part of the gameplay. After that, it still worked because Renaissance fashion was pretty flashy anyway and Ezio could get away with it. But this just doesn't work. There's no way someone in the American Revolution would be able to pass by unnoticed in that kind of outfit. Yeah, yeah, brand recognition. Hopefully it'll look better in the actual game.

Aside from that I'm pretty excited. They might have to do some drastic changing of game-mechanics, though. Guns will be a lot more common, tall buildings will be a lot more sparse, cities will be smaller, etc.

Although I'm cautiously hopeful for this game, I think it still has a lot of potential. For instance, Connor is have Native American, and we rarely hear much about their involvement in the American Revolution. I also noticed he doesn't have the hidden blade, which to be honest is fine with me if it means some overhaul of the the combat. I mean the games have gotten easier and easier to the point that you could counter into a massacre and call in reinforcements if you had the slightest bit of trouble. And although the Founding Fathers had some area where they heros (they called for all religious freedom, something many forget), they also had their faults such as the majority of them owning slaves. I hope they don't just gloss over that.

Arontala:
I'm not sure how I feel about this.

On one hand, we're finally moving into a different time period. On the other hand, I'm worried about how well they're going to handle the Desmond sections. I had assumed that the third game would be fully set in modern times, but now it seems like they'll need to come up with yet another reason to put Desmond back into the Animus.

After all, isn't this supposed to be the ending to Desmond's story? It seems kind of odd to place the focus on a different character.

Desmond's story has always been the back seat of series, and they still need to find the temples to prevent whatever is going to happen to happen. I'm guessing this game will be him finding out where to find said temples and the modern segments being him and the assassins taking over them. Maybe they will do a game solely on Desmond and his fight against the templars but I'm more than happy to screw up history a few more times before then.

nokori3byo:

way2sl0w:

undeadsuitor:
I'm interest to see how Assassins operate in a world of guns and projectile weaponry.

They already have guns brotherhood/revelations

Ezio first gets his hands on a gun in AC2. In the series' chronology, guns appear...significantly ealier.

Little close to a spoiler there buddy XD

Terminate421:
I was hoping for the Russian revolution but I guess it makes sense here as well. At least it isn't Ezio AGAIN. (I did like Ezio, however.)

I do however hope for the ability to actually aim and fire my gun. And before I am called out saying "Don't turn it into a shooter!" I am not suggesting a shooter, I would however like to pick off enemies with my gun without having to be within 20 feet of them. To compensate and not make it a shooter, add a noise aspect or make reload times take forever.

Since its the American revolution, the guns won't be terribly different, most likely. Guns stagnated for a long, long time. And by that, I mean the mid 1800's, where repeating rifles were invented and they started rifling their barrels (although that was earlier). I do expect the range to be a bit bigger, though...
OT: Excited. Finally away from Ezio, but I didn't see this coming, to be honest. And playing as a native American badass? Only game I can think of off the top of my head that had a native American protagonist is Prey. Regardless: I am excited, although I still need to get Relations and Brotherhood...
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owen20011993:
awesome i can kill americans

Juding by the cover, you'll be killing the British... although I can imagine some Freemasons or the Illuminati being in there somewhere, although maybe not as targets.

amazing, awesome and all things great.

However, as mentioned above, the brits are going to be turned into the monsters of the series, despite the whole series being about the hidden motivaitons underneath the actual wars going on instead. If thats true, then it feels like their just going after American Patriotism for sales.

My big gripe with this will be whether the British are portrayed as people or as over the top baddies who murder puppies for sexual pleasure. But with the main audience of the game being American and their portrayal likely affecting the sales in a big way I'm pretty sure us Brits will be dunking kittens in childrens blood before you can say 'poor dental hygenie'.

I really hope that they use the native america part of the character to explore the fact both factions in the war will fuck his people over, that I'd enjoy. Hell even if it's hinted that British people might have a soul that would surprise me.

Hmmm... interesting... there must be sniper assassinations plsss!!!

skywolfblue:
I'm betting it's fake.

That outfit is a horrid abomination. I mean absolutely shitty. Trying to mix the original outfit with revolution era buckles, just wrong wrong wrong. Go one way or the other.

Oh thank goodness people with aesthetic sensibilities are still out there. Honestly, look at that thing. Why the hell are they clinging to that damn hawk motif like a man on the wing of an airborne plane? The only indication of said motif that survives from the original game is that stupid little square bit of fabric on the hood... and...

Oh jesus I keep looking at it and just realized that they took a damn Regimental Coat/weskit/hunting frock, made it too small, gave it the hood, then strapped bear hide to his legs so they can justify him being native american (how the fuck is this guy descended from a middle eastern palestinian and an italian, yet is somehow half english, half native american?), oh and look, they gave the native american fucking bracers and the incredibly noticeable assassin logo, because he looks soooo stealthy and assassin-like right there. Can't wait to see how they explain away slowly coating this guy in more and more armor upgrades in a revolutionary, continental army over-designed morass.

Okay, now I'm bordering on a rant here, and may be guilty of preemptively judging a book by its cover (all too literally) but I have an overabundance of doubts based on this image. The Colonies didn't have the massive cities of ancient european and palestinian cities for the characteristic free-running element of AC to be feasible. If they plan to play up the Native American angle, then the primary areas of combat during the revolution will be either forests or infiltrating forts and frontier towns, maybe larger capital cities to take out British officers, but then that outfit still doesn't make ANY sense what with the bright white.

I now hold serious reservations about the success of this game. I imagine they have either finally manned up and implemented a proper stealth element back into the gameplay (lets face it, after AC2, you weren't an assassin anymore. You were public enemy #1, a one-man-army, slayer of thousands of guards, and for someone who is supposed to be a stealthy unseen hand of death, almost every conflict ends in massive 1 v. 100 slaughters while big-bad ran for it and your name was know on the streets like fucking batman in Gotham) or they just tossed it out and aren't bothering with it. Jeez, I can only imagine the weird templar National Treasure rip-off they are brewing to further muddy this series plot, and heavens only know what they thought up so they could put Desmound BACK in the animus.

Damn... How war beginning of the 20th century World War 1 Europe not considered?! Their was enough political intrigue, international subterfuge and byzantine dynastic rivalry to make for one of the most interesting and historically relevant Assassin games possible! How in the name of all the powers that be did the Assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, which plunged the world into the most important and influential conflict, one that would irreversibly define social, economic, and political customs across the globe for the remainder of the century not have the Assassins Creed writers jizzing themselves in creative passion at the chance to place the player in that pivotal role that would decide the fates of untold millions, and in a social and political setting that would allow the odd Templar/Assassin war/rivalry to be messed seamlessly with the already stylized political atmosphere of turn off the century europe and expand into more complex economical and politically complex motivations and plots than in past games as the world entered a new technological and social era. This was the time where dynastic political icons and characters with intricate relationships and familial ties moved the nations of the world with their personal whims, where entire societies and centuries of tradition were overthrown in a tumult of popular revolt supported by a hurricane of palace and parlor ASSASSINATIONS FOR MEANINGFUL POLITICAL GAINS AND SUBTERFUGE OF GREY MORALITY NOT BE CONSIDERED OVER THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION THAT HAD COMPARATIVELY LITTLE TO NO POLITICAL UPHEAVAL THAT WOULD WARRANT ASSASSINS WHEN OPEN WARFARE WAS THE STATUS QUO?! I have legitimate fear that they are making a videogame adaptation of The Patriot.

... so sorry skywolfblue, it just text walled the inside of your inbox...

I hope you're a native American and the American settlors are the invaders.

So you are fighting for the 1) slavers' colony to be able and 2) exterminate the natives, pillage their resources indipendently from 3) the motherland they betrayed? :D

That's noble.

I wonder if Gandhi wuold have liked it, if the english in India had declared themselves indipendent from the UK and massacred all his people too.

/withdrawn

Nydestroyer:

nokori3byo:

way2sl0w:

They already have guns brotherhood/revelations

Ezio first gets his hands on a gun in AC2. In the series' chronology, guns appear...significantly ealier.

Little close to a spoiler there buddy XD

Even closer now, buddy.

Arontala:
I'm not sure how I feel about this.

On one hand, we're finally moving into a different time period. On the other hand, I'm worried about how well they're going to handle the Desmond sections. I had assumed that the third game would be fully set in modern times, but now it seems like they'll need to come up with yet another reason to put Desmond back into the Animus.

After all, isn't this supposed to be the ending to Desmond's story? It seems kind of odd to place the focus on a different character.

Or maybe Desmond is actually being controlled by another assassin in the further future who's watching Desmond control his ancestors!

Just like Desmond watched Ezio controlling Altiar!

Assassinception!

So I'm guessing on lots of tree climbing? the occasional bell tower?

I think the decision to set it during the American revolution is an okay one, but i think they could have done better. My main concern would be, as has been said, there arn't any sprawling cities in colonial America which are kind of necessary for the Assasins Creed style flavour of gameplay.

Part of me thinks they've done this from a profit stand point- A lot of non-US game developers set games in America because they know it will sell well. But mainly, say they have a few founding furthers as Templars then that will cause a very.... profitable controversy should we say. Still, i understand the need to shift the action towards America given that's where Desmond is. But, this is set in the 18th century, it's not like they need to be in a rush.

I would have liked to have seen it set during the Russian Revolution- with the possibility of a sequel being set during the Russian Civil War. You have three notable cities (Moscow, St Petersburg (or Leningrad) and perhaps Volgograd ( later known as Stalingrad)and a fascinating conflict. It would also be radically aesthetically different from the other Assassins Creed games, being set in Mediterranean early modern environments. You also have some really recognisable people- Lenin obviously- but also Stalin who distinguished himself fighting in Volograd during the civil war so he could feature as well, and of course Tsar Nicholas II, the massacre of him and his family etc... And heck in the Civil War you had British, French, American and even Japanese forces intervening in the conflict- and also the Czech legion- a bunch of Czech POW's from WW1 who basically fight their way across Russia trying to get home if i remember rightly. So much was going on there, it's the ideal conflict for an Assasins Creed game.

You could have also done the French revolution/Napoleonic War as well- again, sprawling city environments, lots of stuff going on with the reign of terror and all. Plus, as someone said- Ubisoft are a French so i think it would have been nice for them to tell their own story really.[1] There are loads of games already that revolve around America already. Still, if the protagonist is half native American that could be pretty interesting.

[1] That said, i'm aware it's Ubisoft Monteral, and we all know by now that it's made by a multicultural team as they make it very clear at the start of each game.

Im so excited about this game now! seriuly just look at him! not one part about him doesnt say BADASS, i love the look on that Tomahawk

Wintermute_:

skywolfblue:
I'm betting it's fake.

That outfit is a horrid abomination. I mean absolutely shitty. Trying to mix the original outfit with revolution era buckles, just wrong wrong wrong. Go one way or the other.

Oh thank goodness people with aesthetic sensibilities are still out there. Honestly, look at that thing. Why the hell are they clinging to that damn hawk motif like a man on the wing of an airborne plane? The only indication of said motif that survives from the original game is that stupid little square bit of fabric on the hood... and...

Oh jesus I keep looking at it and just realized that they took a damn Regimental Coat/weskit/hunting frock, made it too small, gave it the hood, then strapped bear hide to his legs so they can justify him being native american (how the fuck is this guy descended from a middle eastern palestinian and an italian, yet is somehow half english, half native american?), oh and look, they gave the native american fucking bracers and the incredibly noticeable assassin logo, because he looks soooo stealthy and assassin-like right there. Can't wait to see how they explain away slowly coating this guy in more and more armor upgrades in a revolutionary, continental army over-designed morass.

Okay, now I'm bordering on a rant here, and may be guilty of preemptively judging a book by its cover (all too literally) but I have an overabundance of doubts based on this image. The Colonies didn't have the massive cities of ancient european and palestinian cities for the characteristic free-running element of AC to be feasible. If they plan to play up the Native American angle, then the primary areas of combat during the revolution will be either forests or infiltrating forts and frontier towns, maybe larger capital cities to take out British officers, but then that outfit still doesn't make ANY sense what with the bright white.

I now hold serious reservations about the success of this game. I imagine they have either finally manned up and implemented a proper stealth element back into the gameplay (lets face it, after AC2, you weren't an assassin anymore. You were public enemy #1, a one-man-army, slayer of thousands of guards, and for someone who is supposed to be a stealthy unseen hand of death, almost every conflict ends in massive 1 v. 100 slaughters while big-bad ran for it and your name was know on the streets like fucking batman in Gotham) or they just tossed it out and aren't bothering with it. Jeez, I can only imagine the weird templar National Treasure rip-off they are brewing to further muddy this series plot, and heavens only know what they thought up so they could put Desmound BACK in the animus.

Damn... How war beginning of the 20th century World War 1 Europe not considered?! Their was enough political intrigue, international subterfuge and byzantine dynastic rivalry to make for one of the most interesting and historically relevant Assassin games possible! How in the name of all the powers that be did the Assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, which plunged the world into the most important and influential conflict, one that would irreversibly define social, economic, and political customs across the globe for the remainder of the century not have the Assassins Creed writers jizzing themselves in creative passion at the chance to place the player in that pivotal role that would decide the fates of untold millions, and in a social and political setting that would allow the odd Templar/Assassin war/rivalry to be messed seamlessly with the already stylized political atmosphere of turn off the century europe and expand into more complex economical and politically complex motivations and plots than in past games as the world entered a new technological and social era. This was the time where dynastic political icons and characters with intricate relationships and familial ties moved the nations of the world with their personal whims, where entire societies and centuries of tradition were overthrown in a tumult of popular revolt supported by a hurricane of palace and parlor ASSASSINATIONS FOR MEANINGFUL POLITICAL GAINS AND SUBTERFUGE OF GREY MORALITY NOT BE CONSIDERED OVER THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION THAT HAD COMPARATIVELY LITTLE TO NO POLITICAL UPHEAVAL THAT WOULD WARRANT ASSASSINS WHEN OPEN WARFARE WAS THE STATUS QUO?! I have legitimate fear that they are making a videogame adaptation of The Patriot.

... so sorry skywolfblue, it just text walled the inside of your inbox...

Hehe, no worries. :P

I'm happy to see I'm not the only one feeling hesitant about this. I'm only half-attached to the AC series, but I still hold some interest.

tr00per7:
why do people keep bloody suggesting the damn french revolution over the american revolution? The American revolution happend first, in 1776ish and ended around 1781 while the french revolution started in 1789 and ended in 1799. So timewise it makes more sense and also its more intresting. The french revolution really only involved french, but as others have mention the american revolution included americans, brits, french, germans, spanish, native americans and african americans, im sure we'll get more variation out of that.

and those suggesting japan or china? thats too different! Besides, doesnt the game revolve a lot around western politics and christianity, so it wouldnt really fit much with the story fighting ninjas and samurais in japan or warrior monks in china for not much reason.

And the French Revolution had the Coalition Wars which involved almost literally everyone vs France.

Japan and Christianity have a lot together and Western influence towards both China and Japan is a VERY important modern issue.

For some Americans, the prime selling point of Assassin's Creed was exploring foreign countries in olden times. As an American, I'd think that this would be the last place they would choose.

I'm not saying the game will be bad, but we're allowed to show hesitance.

superdelux:

etherlance:
Wait.....This is a joke right?

Cause I swear if I have to play through another entire game that doesn't finish the fucking storyline, I'm gonna kill the developers.

At the end of Revelations I thought to myself: "Finally the last part of the game is next".

I love the games but they really seem to be dragging on now.

Ubisoft said that the storyline will conclude this year, they believe that if the climax of the series is supposed to happen in December 2012 you should finish the story before then.

Don't get me wrong I love the AC series and will but this one even if I do bitch about it a little.

It's just it seems like they are doing the same thing that the Final fantasy series have done, stretch out a series of games untill we stop buying them.

It's like the the game is made of butter and the series is the knife that spreads the "Game butter" over the toast that is the player, but now the series is getting spread thin and soon will no longer taste the buttery goodness of Assassains Creed anymore.

......I can keep the "Butter Game" idea going if you like :)

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