So A Teacher At My School Was Just Fired...

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All of the students at my school loved him and are actively protesting his termination. He led our school's Buddy Olympics and was an avid supporter of many school clubs and organizations. While I didn't have him as a teacher, I've heard nothing but good things from fellow students.

That being said, I want to know The Escapist's position on this. If a beloved teacher pulls a stupid stunt, should they get a second chance was my school right in firing him?

EDIT: This is a petition that the kids at my school have started. This shows more of the public's opinion of him. http://www.change.org/petitions/the-kids-and-parents-of-wando-high-school-give-their-comments-about-christopher-poston?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=share_with_facebook_friends#

EDIT: Funnily enough, Jackass mentioned him on their website. http://www.dickhouse.tv/

Thats just dumb, I've had teachers do 100x worse than that...and this isn't even bad; it's just a show.

Everyone knows that you don't do work in cover lessons, the students probably got a laugh from watching it and were likely in a good mood for the rest of the day.

I'd say the termination is valid.

If it had only been a matter of him watching movies on "company time", then some milder disciplinary action could have been taken.

But showing an R rated movie to a bunch of teenagers, in class no less, breaks a few laws and points to horrible judgment.

I mean, it's not like the movie as any redeeming qualities or is the least bit educational... there's really no gray zone to this.

I personally believe in giving people second chances, as long as the first offense wasn't particularly serious. In this particular case, I don't think it was particularly serious. This guy was teaching a high school class... you'd have to be pretty naive to assume that high school students aren't already familiar with the things being displayed to them in that movie. Granted, it probably shouldn't have been shown during school hours anyway given that students are at school to learn, and I doubt the movie was being displayed for its educational value. So yeah... minor offense.

But this sort of thing happens all the time. Teachers have to be ridiculously careful these days about being politically correct. My high school lost an excellent teacher a few years ago because she was assigning books by Stephen King and a few other well-known others that involved "questionable" subject matter (including sex, drug use, and violence... the stuff that's in pretty much every book written ever) for her creative writing course. The class in question was restricted to high school seniors.

After the teacher was fired, the school board had a field day going through the required materials for all of the high school courses, censoring and/or removing anything they felt was inappropriate.

Frankly, I think it's bullshit. Kids need to be prepared for the real world, and unfortunately, the real world has a lot of bad things going on in it. By censoring everything and telling them that the world is a perfect place full of sunshine and flowers and rainbows all we're doing is ensuring that they won't have the information they need to make informed decisions once they're out on their own.

OK, I'm willing to accept that the Jackass thing was wrong. And I don't think it would be bad enough to be fired. Then again, schools are known of being wee bit insensitive to such matters to please the public. Well, it's his fault here, he used his own judgement and was wrong...because the kids told their parents.

However this part of the article:

Article:
Poston also launched a PowerPoint projection with photos from the website, "People of Walmart," which pokes fun at oddly dressed Walmart patrons. He told school officials the website taught lessons on the consequences of violating social norms, the police report states

is pure nonsense. That seems to be there to make the teacher look even worse and it fails.

Article:
Poston is a 1994 Wando graduate and Citadel alum, according to his Facebook page.

But this part irks me the most. "I don't need to do real journalism like research and stuff, I'll just hop on Facebook."

Well I have no sympathy for him if he honestly decided to show that to everybody.

Ha! What a hero of a teacher.

The students did enquire as to what he was watching so I think its kind of harsh that they fired him, oh well it's so the school doesn't look bad and that they deal with the situation like 'the parents' (It's always the parents with these things -.-) would want them to.

"FIRE THE BASTARD, HE SHOWED THEM A MANS PEE PEE!"

Well that was pretty stupid of him, there was nothing to be gained by showing it and it was obviously something that could get him in trouble.

That said I don't think it seemed like such a huge offense he needed to be fired.

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All of the students at my school loved him and are actively protesting his termination. He led our school's Buddy Olympics and was an avid supporter of many school clubs and organizations. While I didn't have him as a teacher, I've heard nothing but good things from fellow students.

That being said, I want to know The Escapist's position on this. If a beloved teacher pulls a stupid stunt, should they get a second chance was my school right in firing him?

I think you should get the students to wear sock puppets on their genitalia in school as a form of protest

WE watched much worse in my sociology class.
And in sex ed they show us much much much worse where stds come to topic.
So I find this odd.

This particular event doesn't sound so bad, but it's not like the teacher was young and naive, he sounds like the guy that likes to push the administrators on purpose, he finally went to far and they got him for it. If he really was a good teacher and this was an isolated lapse of judgment I'd defend him, but he's probably had this coming for a while.

All it took was one snitch for something like that to get out and now a (possibly good) teacher's reputation and job are on the line, that's all it takes, one person.

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All of the students at my school loved him and are actively protesting his termination. He led our school's Buddy Olympics and was an avid supporter of many school clubs and organizations. While I didn't have him as a teacher, I've heard nothing but good things from fellow students.

That being said, I want to know The Escapist's position on this. If a beloved teacher pulls a stupid stunt, should they get a second chance was my school right in firing him?

That is just... horribly stupid. Not the Teacher, but for the faculty. Jackass? Really? I routinely watch Happy Tree Friends on the Big Screens here, and HTF is FAR worse!

He obviously isn't a very good teacher. What he did was clearly a violation of acceptable teaching practice and it didn't even have any practical purpose. Not to mention those movies fucking suck. You can try to excuse it, but you can't really justify it. Not only was he not teaching and thus wasting everyone's time, he went on to show underage children an R rated movie which, regardless of how you feel about it, is actually illegal. I think it would be wrong of them not to fire him.

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WE watched much worse in my sociology class.
And in sex ed they show us much much much worse where stds come to topic.
So I find this odd.

They showed the STD thing to us in High school as well. But I slept through them everyone else of cringing I was yawning.

That being said the biggest thing I remember like this form my school is the kids wanted to put up a.... monument I guess to some substitute teacher that died and was well liked and the principal wouldn't let them.

I've had a teacher put on Requim For A Dream in class. That's a lot more messed up than Jackass, and I have nothing but admiration to her for doing it. The chances that the kids in that class HADN'T see the Jackass movie for this incident are pretty slim.

But as was already said, all it took was one person to say it happened and now this guy is unemployed. And probably won't ever teach again simply due to the long memories over zealous people have when it comes to something negative.

How old were the people in the class?

Yeah, that was pretty stupid of him anyway. Showing an R rated movie to a bunch of teenagers? In Ireland our rating system is a legal thing. I liked that you guys stood up against the governators attempts to make selling m rated games to minors illegal. But things like this ar exactly the kind of thing that validates the enforcement of legally binding ratings' systems. If you guys can't be responsible for yourselves that's when your government is going to step in and be responsible for you.

Fatboy_41:
I've had a teacher put on Requim For A Dream in class. That's a lot more messed up than Jackass, and I have nothing but admiration to her for doing it. The chances that the kids in that class HADN'T see the Jackass movie for this incident are pretty slim.

The kids seeing it before is hardly an argument. I'm sure most of them have watched porn at some point but that isn't enough of a justification to show it in class. I'm not comparing Jackass to hardcore porn (hardcore porn is actually entertaining for one) I'm just pointing out "They've probably seen it before" does not give a substitute teacher the right to step in and show it to them.

It's not that bad. It's rated R (read as: not UNRATED), making it tame enough for teenage kids who have undoubtedly seen much worse.

Was it careless? Yes, of course it was. But I remember my teachers always going "okay we can do X as long as you promise not to tell on me!", and we would always have his/her back, because we knew they were cool and it made class more enjoyable.

If you believe that the law is a perfect measurement of morality, then he should be fired and not hired anywhere else again.

I, however, do not and then believe that he should have retained his job with a 'warning'.

How dare he attempt to allow students to enjoy themselves during school hours!

No, seriously. It's ridiculous the fact he's getting punished for this. At the age of most of those kids, I can guarantee they've already seen far, far worse. He should receive a warning for his behaviour, not termination.

Meanwhile there are teachers who are shit at their jobs, but toe the line of decency, and they still keep their jobs...

That sucks, OP.

I dunno, I'm kinda on the fence on this one. On one hand, showing the kids Jackass 2 isn't really THAT bad, probably worth some strict disciplinary action, but not really a firing.

On the other hand, he did this knowing FULL WELL that it wasn't something he was supposed to be doing. He HAD to know that people would pitch a fit if they knew he was showing this to kids.

And frankly, I'm all for people being punished for doing something stupid that they KNOW they shouldn't be doing.

Leemaster777:
I dunno, I'm kinda on the fence on this one. On one hand, showing the kids Jackass 2 isn't really THAT bad, probably worth some strict disciplinary action, but not really a firing.

On the other hand, he did this knowing FULL WELL that it wasn't something he was supposed to be doing. He HAD to know that people would pitch a fit if they knew he was showing this to kids.

And frankly, I'm all for people being punished for doing something stupid that they KNOW they shouldn't be doing.

The problem is that the punishment for this is far far worse than simply losing one job. Each school he goes to from now on will know what he has done and finding a job will be hard, but what is ruining one man's career compared to getting some extra ratings on the news show?

It's no worse than some of the shit on TV here in the states.

Granted, it was a show with a rating that was above what he should be showing to the students. I say he should be punished, but terminated? Do these parents who let their kids play Mature games and watch R movies even know what they are doing? I think they don't.

How old are the kids that he showed the video too? cause I cnt imagine them not having seen them if tehy're in their teens.

Though I remmber one of my old high school teachers was forced to step down after he picked a kid up by the neck and told him to shut the fuck up while he was speaking so i dont know, really this sint all that bad comparitively.

They made us get parent's signatures in my highschool biology class to show us "Outbreak" because it has the use of the word "fuck" once.

I watched movies far worse than this in highschool with teachers.

I hate how stupid these kinds of cases are these days.

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WE watched much worse in my sociology class.
And in sex ed they show us much much much worse where stds come to topic.
So I find this odd.

Did you have to bring in a signed permission slip, or at least have parental consent to view the sex-ed video or the sociology video?

Jackass is a show that glories stupidity and is on the intellectually level of Jersey Shore and Paris Hilton. I say the guy should have been fired. Mostly because I have a pet peeve for people who like that show and akin them to "bros".

Regardless of my feelings, I don't really know if he was a good teacher and by that I don't mean a buddy to his students but someone who educated really well. I think this is a more you had to be there thing for me to judge.

As a former high school student, nope, I don't see the issue. I'm pretty sure all of the kids already saw this or just found something funny to interrupt their day. Hell, they let us watch Jersey Shore and Housewives. That's just as bad. >.>

They saw it and promptly forgot about it in time for their next class. It's a free period. Either you dick around or you sleep. No one does any actual work during that period unless the teacher requested it be handed in at the end of class.

They're making a big deal out of nothing. I swear some parents don't focus on the important stuff for their kids.

That's pretty dumb on his part. It doesn't seem to be worth a firing on its own (although its pretty damn close and IS worth firing if that's considered criminal in his state), but of course we don't know how many warnings for idiot behavior he already has on his ass.

aegix drakan:
Meanwhile there are teachers who are shit at their jobs...

Oddly enough, I would think someone watching movies while they're getting paid to work would constitute as being "shit at their job".

but it seems like most ppl think it's perfectly ok for him to goof off, apparently that's all that the students want to do too, right?

ya, really legit teacher right there.

I could see a teacher I know doing something like this, except not with a lewd scene. That's alittle too far. There's nothing a clip in Jackass can do that showing old footage of Nanjing or Vietnam can far over do.
The thing is: the kids asked to see the clip and the teacher wasn't planning on showing it.

EDIT:
We watch people smoke meth in episodes of Intervention all the time in Psychology.

There was a really hot teacher student that apparently made out with some chick on a reality show, and they made her leave for something she did outside of class.

Yeah, what your teacher did was pretty stupid, but I don't think that was worth getting sacked over. Then again, I'm a pretty liberal person, and I'm pretty upset with the school system and the amount of shit they overreact to.

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