| Daystar Clarion:
MorganL4:
Riku'sTwilight:
Since the new British flag Xbox 360 has been announced, people on Xbox360achievements.org have been debating over whether it is called the Union Jack, or Union Flag.
I'm British/English and honestly for all my 24 years in this country I have never ever heard it be called the Union Flag.
I know where the 'Jack' part of the name comes from (the navy) but since it has been around for a long time, it has been built into this country as the union jack. I honestly don't know a single person who calls it the union flag.
So British people, do you call it the union jack? or the union flag?
American/Rest of World people, what have you heard it called as? and what do you call it yourself?
I have always heard it referred to and called it the Union Jack myself. And then when you factor in that the only reason Great Britain became a world super power in the first place was it's AWESOME navy, I mean you kinda should follow that standard right?
FamoFunk:
Couldn't care. Stupid falg that couldn't even include us Welsh >:(
And where pray tell do you plan on putting your giant red dragon?
Might just be me, but I think the Welsh dragon has a rather...
Phallic tongue?
The more important point is that this is the wrong flag. That is the Union flag circa pre 1800 act of Union with Ireland. The modern day union Jack has the cross of St Patrick incorporated into it. the flag above lacks the red cross imposed upon the white cross. Also Wales is not on the flag because it is not a separate country. It is a principality and was incorporated into the Kingdom of England after the conquests of Edward I, creating the nation of Britain. The act of Union 1707 which joined Britain and Scotland is the incorporation of the British flag with the Scottish. This was then changed again in 1800 when we had the act of union with Ireland and added the cross of St Patrick. So in short Wales isn't on there because technically Britain is represented by the Cross of St George... Reading that back to myself In can't help but feel as if my country was kinda twisting the proverbial knife in the welsh gut. |
| thylasos:
The other point here is that it doesn't matter.
No-one flies flags in Britain, and if they do it tends to be a right-winger flying St. George's cross in a way that everyone else finds rather embarassing.
There isn't a culture of having the flag absolutely everywhere, unlike in the US.
Certainly in Scotland, a bigger reason people don't fly flags is that they'd be ripped to shreds by the wind within a week |
| There is no concensus on the correct term. Ever since the first time it was called the Union Jack/Flag people have freely referred to it as both. |
| Surprised no-one has brought this up yet.
I love the fact that some of our soldiers even spray painted it on to a armoured vehicle.
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| thylasos:
The other point here is that it doesn't matter.
No-one flies flags in Britain, and if they do it tends to be a right-winger flying St. George's cross in a way that everyone else finds rather embarassing.
There isn't a culture of having the flag absolutely everywhere, unlike in the US.
Apart from when England's football (soccer) team is playing, you tend to see them on every street during World Cups or Euro Cups.
And some even show them during Rugby or Cricket tournaments too.
Otherwise, yeah you just don't see them. |
| Daystar Clarion:
Isn't it only called the Union Jack if it's on a ship?
Otherwise it's the Union Flag.
Just another of those little misconceptions that everybody seems to believe, then it turns out it's bollocks.
That sums it up, it is only the union jack when it is at sea. |
| This thread is making me wonder: how many of the people saying "it's the Union flag, not the Union Jack!" were aware of this fact before the Doctor Who episode with the throwaway line where one of the doctor's companions yelled at someone about it? (It's been a few seasons; I'm honestly not sure which companion it was anymore.) I mean technically yes, that is correct, but how long have the people who are getting angry known that? Did they once call it the Union Jack themselves? |
| FamoFunk:
Couldn't care. Stupid falg that couldn't even include us Welsh >:(
We didn't want our flag to be included in the union flag/jack, thing mate.
Anyway who cares because we have THE BEST FLAG IN THE WORLD. That is not a matter of opinion its a fact.
Oh what was that? you prefer your flag? Well does your flag have A MOTHER FUCKING DRAGON ON IT??
no didn't think so.
I prefer the name union Jack as it sounds like a persona, although I am aware that John Bull is generally the more common British persona. |
The more important point is that this is the wrong flag. That is the Union flag circa pre 1800 act of Union with Ireland. The modern day union Jack has the cross of St Patrick incorporated into it. the flag above lacks the red cross imposed upon the white cross. Also Wales is not on the flag because it is not a separate country. It is a principality and was incorporated into the Kingdom of England after the conquests of Edward I, creating the nation of Britain. The act of Union 1707 which joined Britain and Scotland is the incorporation of the British flag with the Scottish. This was then changed again in 1800 when we had the act of union with Ireland and added the cross of St Patrick. So in short Wales isn't on there because technically Britain is represented by the Cross of St George... Reading that back to myself In can't help but feel as if my country was kinda twisting the proverbial knife in the welsh gut.