The artist in thee

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TheFacelessOne:
You disgusting Eldar! Oh how I wish were shared the same landmass so my Space Marines could gut you apart, you witch!

/nerdtalk

Weakling terrans. My Banshees will cut through your Marines like butter. After all, my Exarch dances on the severed head of an Angry Marine. Just think of what she'll do to the rest.

And just you wait until I get my Wraithlord.

Speaking of Eldar, here's the photos of my completed squad.

Warhammer is awesome, I don't know anything about it but I've always been interested in starting my own little army. I remember growing up and walking down to the hobbyshop a block away just to look at the owner's collections there.

Fightgarr:
Big-ass scary post got snipped

As someone with a modicum of talent at drawing, a copy of GIMP I'm still trying to learn how to use, a vague urge to seek an art-related career and not much else, this post scared the crap out of me. I'd just like to ask: When you talk about art as a competitive and cut-throat industry, what exactly do you mean by "art"? What is the job you are aiming for as an artist? When you say "art", are you covering everything that might be produced by anyone setting pen to paper or tablet and looking to make some money out of it?

EDIT: Might as well actually put up some art while I'm here. Once I was bored in a cafe so I got out my sketchpad and started to draw (I'm pretty sure I got some strange looks). It's just a rather daft cartoon, and the art is subpar even for me, but I quite like the joke and I thought you lot might too.

Labyrinth:

TheFacelessOne:
You disgusting Eldar! Oh how I wish were shared the same landmass so my Space Marines could gut you apart, you witch!

/nerdtalk

Weakling terrans. My Banshees will cut through your Marines like butter. After all, my Exarch dances on the severed head of an Angry Marine. Just think of what she'll do to the rest.

And just you wait until I get my Wraithlord.

Pffft. Eldar are nothing but elves... IN SPACE!

scobie:
As someone with a modicum of talent at drawing, a copy of GIMP I'm still trying to learn how to use, a vague urge to seek an art-related career and not much else, this post scared the crap out of me. I'd just like to ask: When you talk about art as a competitive and cut-throat industry, what exactly do you mean by "art"? What is the job you are aiming for as an artist? When you say "art", are you covering everything that might be produced by anyone setting pen to paper or tablet and looking to make some money out of it?

Sorry, cut-throat was a bit of an overreaction, but think of it this way:
For Fine Arts:
In order to make money as an artist you have to sell art. In order to do this, you need to appeal to gallery owners, you need to appeal to the public and you need to appeal to critics. Your art needs to be evocative and you need to maintain creation of high quality artwork, while at the same time managing all of the commercial aspects of your art. Now put on top of that the fact that you are one person, likely without a name for yourself, and there are millions of other people who want to do the same thing as you. Those people are who you are competing with for gallery space, for sales, for a name. Making money as an artist? Very few can. Really the only way you can do so is to become an art teacher.

For Digital Arts:
Great, you've decided to pursue digital art, you can now become a graphic designer, a digital painter, a modeler or whatever else you can think up. Now bear in mind that there are very few stable jobs in these fields, most of it is freelance. Now in order to get one of those stable jobs you have to put together a solid portfolio and appeal to them out of all the other people who want to do the same thing. This means your portfolio needs to be amazing for them to even want to look at you. Then there's the freelance option: you can make more money as freelance, but guess what? You're self-employed, you need to seek out clients, you need to put your portfolio online, you need to manage yourself as much as doing your art. Then who are you competing with? Well... millions of other people. In digital art, you can telecommute so you can work for people around the world. But this means that people around the world are also capable of getting that same job, so pretty well any good, paying opportunity is going to have a high level of competition from other freelancers.

Sorry if I scared you on that last post, but I'm piss-terrified myself. I've spent years and years of my life to get as good as I possibly can and I know I'm still not good enough to even really be considered in terms of digital art.

RAKtheUndead:
Pffft. Eldar are nothing but elves... IN SPACE!

"Nothing but"? Are you kidding me? Have you -seen- what Jain Zar can do with her uh.. weapon?

Labyrinth:

RAKtheUndead:
Pffft. Eldar are nothing but elves... IN SPACE!

"Nothing but"? Are you kidding me? Have you -seen- what Jain Zar can do with her uh.. weapon?

Hey there, fancy posting those Banshees in my mini's thread and giving it a BUMP? ;) There's a few of my vintage Banshee's posted in there too. They are quite simply painted, since they weren't my main army when I was a kid it was a case of 'fuck it, that'll do'.

EDIT: Here I'll post mine in yours as a sign of cooperation and good faith.

scumofsociety:

My thread (again)
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.191553-Go-on-show-us-your-minis-painted-miniature-gallery-thread-40K-Warhammer-D-D-anime-whatever

Fightgarr:

scobie:
As someone with a modicum of talent at drawing, a copy of GIMP I'm still trying to learn how to use, a vague urge to seek an art-related career and not much else, this post scared the crap out of me. I'd just like to ask: When you talk about art as a competitive and cut-throat industry, what exactly do you mean by "art"? What is the job you are aiming for as an artist? When you say "art", are you covering everything that might be produced by anyone setting pen to paper or tablet and looking to make some money out of it?

Sorry, cut-throat was a bit of an overreaction, but think of it this way:
For Fine Arts:
In order to make money as an artist you have to sell art. In order to do this, you need to appeal to gallery owners, you need to appeal to the public and you need to appeal to critics. Your art needs to be evocative and you need to maintain creation of high quality artwork, while at the same time managing all of the commercial aspects of your art. Now put on top of that the fact that you are one person, likely without a name for yourself, and there are millions of other people who want to do the same thing as you. Those people are who you are competing with for gallery space, for sales, for a name. Making money as an artist? Very few can. Really the only way you can do so is to become an art teacher.

For Digital Arts:
Great, you've decided to pursue digital art, you can now become a graphic designer, a digital painter, a modeler or whatever else you can think up. Now bear in mind that there are very few stable jobs in these fields, most of it is freelance. Now in order to get one of those stable jobs you have to put together a solid portfolio and appeal to them out of all the other people who want to do the same thing. This means your portfolio needs to be amazing for them to even want to look at you. Then there's the freelance option: you can make more money as freelance, but guess what? You're self-employed, you need to seek out clients, you need to put your portfolio online, you need to manage yourself as much as doing your art. Then who are you competing with? Well... millions of other people. In digital art, you can telecommute so you can work for people around the world. But this means that people around the world are also capable of getting that same job, so pretty well any good, paying opportunity is going to have a high level of competition from other freelancers.

Sorry if I scared you on that last post, but I'm piss-terrified myself. I've spent years and years of my life to get as good as I possibly can and I know I'm still not good enough to even really be considered in terms of digital art.

OK. That seems to be a fairly comprehensive "yes, it covers everything". It won't stop me trying to improve my skills for my own satisfaction (and for a certain project I'm working on with a friend at the moment), but I'll certainly have to think hard if I ever try to break into this kind of industry. Thanks for the advice and I wish you the best of luck in your efforts.

I think after I finish this degree I might take a digital art course later this year :D

I know I never draw anything original, but...

scumofsociety:
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Actually, I devoted about 20 minutes to hunting through the last few pages of this thread trying to find where that link was. I even used the Search Button.

Labyrinth:

scumofsociety:
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Actually, I devoted about 20 minutes to hunting through the last few pages of this thread trying to find where that link was. I even used the Search Button.

I posted it in that thread of Ultra Joes, but I don't think I put it in this one. The 'again' was a reference to my tendency to post that link in any remotely relevant thread or group. I find the search button to be about as accurate as drunken ork.

Thanks for posting BTW.

A chance for a shameless plug? I'm in good sir. Here is three to match your own.

And by the bizarre idea that someone would want to see come more of my stuff here's my deviantArt page http://trinityburst.deviantart.com/

Um...idk. My avatar,<<<<<<< for one.
Others:






aaaand...that's all I can be bothered to find tonight XD

I did some sketches and decided to borrow some art pens from my girlfriend to colour them, not her best pens mind, she's just like me and hates the idea of her pens leaving her room.


Yeah I know I made her too butch and manly looking, but it's a rough character concept and not the style/design I'm going with. Also I'm not very good with pens yet. So used to my Tablet.


This one was more or less an exercise in a different style, just to see if I could mix things up a little bit, I'm actually pretty impressed with this one.

Archemetis:

Holy shit, it's almost Rincewind, except he's not fleeing, and doesn't have Wizzard on his hat.

Labyrinth:

Archemetis:

Holy shit, it's almost Rincewind, except he's not fleeing, and doesn't have Wizzard on his hat.

My Girlfriend said the same thing...
Stupid thing is I've only read one of the Terry Pratchett books (Light Fantastic, I think) and even then that was when I was like 11...

Archemetis:
My Girlfriend said the same thing...
Stupid thing is I've only read one of the Terry Pratchett books (Light Fantastic, I think) and even then that was when I was like 11...

Get to it, man! You're missing out one one of the most complex and interesting fantasy worlds ever conceived.

Labyrinth:

Archemetis:
My Girlfriend said the same thing...
Stupid thing is I've only read one of the Terry Pratchett books (Light Fantastic, I think) and even then that was when I was like 11...

Get to it, man! You're missing out one one of the most complex and interesting fantasy worlds ever conceived.

I'm sure I'll get into it, I enjoyed the Light Fantastic and my Girlfriends entire family are huge Terry Pratchett/Doctor Who nerds.

well i've just started drawing with a tablet, im not used to it at all yet but im getting there.


this is lambda-11 from Blazblue Continuum Shift, i've always wanted to do some fanart and since I main her I figured what the hell, I'll give it a shot.

LiquidGrape:

Is that a harness keeping her boobs in? It looks hellishly uncomfortable and rather impractical. Too easy to slip out of.

My work: http://grave-times.blogspot.com/

Zombie apocalypse story. Yes, I know zombies are rather cliche these days, but I'm having fun with it. X3 I'd appreciate some comments and feedback, if you do go to read it.

My fanfiction: http://www.fanfiction.net/~oorosemysticaoo

One is a Sailor Moon cosmic horror story, and one is a Labyrinth story about the Junk Lady.

Labyrinth:

LiquidGrape:

Is that a harness keeping her boobs in? It looks hellishly uncomfortable and rather impractical. Too easy to slip out of.

Yeah. Blame BioWare, though. They are the ones who didn't know better than to give her a dungaree-bra.

I'n not a great artist, so I let my creative...ness (Is that a word?) flow through my guitar.

Is posting DA links ok?

http://arcania.deviantart.com/

I'm a little embarrassed because my style is very....animu.

Don't judge me.

Probably something no one was expecting. (Part 17.)

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NewClassic:
Probably something no one was expecting. (Part 17.)

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Hey guys, here's my latest Creature of the Week, entry. I'm in 4th right now, which is very exciting for me. I hope I can beat my record of 4 votes this week. Hope ya' like it.

It is threads such as these that allow me to truly appreciate art as it is. I've tried to learn, but it's harder than it looks. At least for me anyway, lol. In any case, keep posting this stuff ^~^!

Here, do enjoy a short I made a while back as a but of conceptual art for a larger project.

Click NAOW!

Fightgarr:
Hey guys, here's my latest Creature of the Week, entry. I'm in 4th right now, which is very exciting for me. I hope I can beat my record of 4 votes this week. Hope ya' like it.

I'm trying to think of some sort of criticism, and failing utterly. That thing is crazy awesome.

Though I just noticed that the bird doesn't have any eyes.

Zemalac:

Fightgarr:
Hey guys, here's my latest Creature of the Week, entry. I'm in 4th right now, which is very exciting for me. I hope I can beat my record of 4 votes this week. Hope ya' like it.

I'm trying to think of some sort of criticism, and failing utterly. That thing is crazy awesome.

Though I just noticed that the bird doesn't have any eyes.

It does but they're closed.

Zemalac:
I'm trying to think of some sort of criticism, and failing utterly. That thing is crazy awesome.

Though I just noticed that the bird doesn't have any eyes.

Thanks man. It does actually have eyes, but I motion blurred the hell out of them so they blend in. Here's a link to a larger image (the actual image is about 5-6,000 wide but here's a 1200 one):
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_W_wCg39S5pQ/TAW_1pE9MKI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/YyVySzsFXN4/s1600/COW178_SupersonicSpikeFinal.jpg
You can kind of see where the eye was before I motion blurred it to all hell.

(Part 18.)

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