Escape to the Movies: The Road

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Well, I'm still gonna see it, but now I'm not looking as forward to it as I once was. Here's hoping I enjoy the movie a little more than this review says I will, but I enjoyed the review nonetheless. I'm really loving this series!

oh by the way, I was curious about what Neil Blomkamp would have done had they made a halo movie and he claimed that the film wouldn't really be about Master Chief. The focus of the film would be around the people surrounding wondering about him. It's an interesting approach, but is this the "ripping its f@#king guts out" that you were looking for?

I think you miss understood me movie bob what i actually ment was i am a tool fan I own all of their albums and Have seen The video of where danny carey plays lateralus Over A gazillion times

LGC Pominator:
Oh god here we go again with the Halo BS (and I honestly can't be arsed going over the plot points again (especially FoR and Contact harvest), because hey, it is becoming increasingly evident that he doesnt give to f(BEEP)s (is that mandatory now?) and why should I bother?) I am getting rather bored of the random dropping of Halo's plot in particular as being indicative of a bad story/poor material for adaptation etc, especially in the knowledge that we are soon to be treated with an *oh hoo bloody ray* World of Warcraft movie, honestly, please find something original to bitch about moviebob, preferably based in fact.

I know I'm late to this thread by A LOT, but I can't but agree. If there is one things that gets old fast, it's internet backlash rage; especially directed at something that is worthwhile, simply because it got popular. I could get into this more if someone really wants to start another flame war over Halo, but I respect MovieBob's opinion most of the time, and it's really disheartening to hear him make unfounded, idiotic attacks against something with out qualifying statements

Hot Madness:
I know I'm late to this thread by A LOT, but I can't but agree. If there is one things that gets old fast, it's internet backlash rage; especially directed at something that is worthwhile, simply because it got popular. I could get into this more if someone really wants to start another flame war over Halo, but I respect MovieBob's opinion most of the time, and it's really disheartening to hear him make unfounded, idiotic attacks against something with out qualifying statements

this.
just wish more people said things like this!

This is the video that has completely reversed my opinion on this guy as any sort of serious movie critic or even anyone who has any right to a published opinion on anything related to art or cinema.
Before his obvious lack of knowledge in his field was limited to small little pin-prick sized statements of monumental stupidity that you could forgive because the overall message of the review seemed to be valid but here... No fucking way.

I could see claiming that it was boring or slow or even that the subject matter was uninteresting for him but to claim that this is a movie where nothing happens is so blatantly and provably wrong that it's embarrassing that I once considered his opinion as one that at least understood the medium that he is so opinionated about.
As much as he talks about getting the point and that he understands the intention (which he may), he seems to miss the point of cinema entirely. He is reviewing this movie the in the same way and using the same criteria that he would reviewing some shit like transformers despite having completely opposite intentions.
Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?
Also How The fuck is this a lone wolf and cub rip off? I get that there is a cart and a kid but the themes, messages, plot, story, characters, setting, and intention are completely different. So what every movie about a father and son in a survival setting is a lone wolf rip-off? HINT: just cause it's on wikipedia doesn't make it valid.

Also the shoehorned nerd references are soo fucking irritating. Not to mention they aren't obscure, aren't clever, and half the time aren't even relevant.
I've wasted enough time on this bullshit.

Based on the footage in the review I thought it looked really cool.

I thought this film was very well made it was a great film with two very good actors this film shows very well the desperation of the situation this film has very good camera work also the film is very close to the book and both are very good

Evil_scintist:
This is the video that has completely reversed my opinion on this guy as any sort of serious movie critic or even anyone who has any right to a published opinion on anything related to art or cinema.
Before his obvious lack of knowledge in his field was limited to small little pin-prick sized statements of monumental stupidity that you could forgive because the overall message of the review seemed to be valid but here... No fucking way.

Erm... around here we like to call the "right to a published opinion on anything related to art or cinema" "free speech". We also like to think everybody has that, even if they don't know what they're talking about (which is not really the case).

I buy Bob as just your average nerdy critic who, let's face it, thinks he's cool because he's watched Bergman movies, but your trollish rant is completely out of place. It would be out of place even if the review made no sense and not only does it make sense, but it seems to be in line with the critical consensus on the movie.

I have to say I actually enjoyed the movie for what it was. Of course knowing what the hell happened would be nice.

It wasn't an action packed movie, but it had its moments of action and at the same time is thrilling

The only issue I had was that it was fairly depressing.

Thats just my opinion though.

First time disagreeing with Bob, my Lord and Saviour.

The Road was near-flawless art. And that was it. It made few sacrifices to the audience when portraying the mood of The Ruination.

The kid was annoying. But he was a Messiah symbol that was supposed to ask the naive questions, always, or else he's just another sharp, gritty piece of the world. You know the ones "who consciously decide to destroy another human being". Imagine him like his desperate father...

I read a few pages of the book and it made me go cold. I watched the movie and my heart was racing at a few points, I nearly shouted a warning to warn them once.
The quagmire, chaos, and waste on display, reminded me of Human nature.

The movie was a character study, it strips off the mask, looks at the face and does not blink. Then it tells it's son. "THIS is what I look like too. We all look like monsters."

Also, roads are a symbol of civilization, and you have to stay away from them to survive. FUCKING SUPERB WRITING.

And I cannot get the image of the quiet deaths out of my head.
And I was really sleepy when I began the film, but at 4AM I was wide awake and a bit scared.

I recommend you watch it again. Tragic, haunting, beautiful deaths.

qbanknight:
oh by the way, I was curious about what Neil Blomkamp would have done had they made a halo movie and he claimed that the film wouldn't really be about Master Chief. The focus of the film would be around the people surrounding wondering about him. It's an interesting approach, but is this the "ripping its f@#king guts out" that you were looking for?

Yes, and that movie would be great. As shown with The 300, if you were a Spartan at home concerned with how well your King was doing to preserve your freedom/reputation. The politics behind the scenes are more dangerous than the frontlines. Ask Julius Caesar/Napoleon/Pontius Pilot/insert historical figure.

And Bob said Halo fans would hate it, and they would. It's all shoot, no think in the mainstream markets.

Everyone's criticism I guess... I loved The Road while MovieBob loves bullshit movies like Kill Bill. I know nobody cares, I'm just saying.

I don't give a fuck what Moviebob says. This movie was great. Seriously, he doesn't know what he's talking about - hope you returned your arthouse movie card champ.

Something caught my attention. When Bob says "Road to Perdition is the only rip-off of Lone Wolf&Cub and get the point." Does he?

First off while yes it can be considered to be inspired by LW&C it doesnt come close to the point at all.

Did he read more than a few comics?

You know there is a Halo movie being made independently? Pete Cooper is making it based around a Marine operation and the only time he's thinking of throwing in a SPARTAN-II (Master Chief guy) is at THE END.

But seriously, why is it every review column on this site seems to hate Halo? I'm a Halo fan and I think a Halo movie would be bad, but as a game it works (except for 3, that wasn't very good). I mean, it revitalized the FPS genre from committing genocide (see Doom) to something smarter with being able to have only two weapons, having said weapons specialized for certain roles, lowering the amount of healthkits from plentiful to non-existent, then throwing you into situations you're totally unprepared for. Even the books were good because it is a rich universe with a lot of room to expand in, and yet, ever since the third game came out people seem to be ripping the series apart and I just don't get it.

i could never really get over the fact that you actually made a read or die reference in the video XD

Evil_scintist:
This is the video that has completely reversed my opinion on this guy as any sort of serious movie critic or even anyone who has any right to a published opinion on anything related to art or cinema.
Before his obvious lack of knowledge in his field was limited to small little pin-prick sized statements of monumental stupidity that you could forgive because the overall message of the review seemed to be valid but here... No fucking way.

I could see claiming that it was boring or slow or even that the subject matter was uninteresting for him but to claim that this is a movie where nothing happens is so blatantly and provably wrong that it's embarrassing that I once considered his opinion as one that at least understood the medium that he is so opinionated about.
As much as he talks about getting the point and that he understands the intention (which he may), he seems to miss the point of cinema entirely. He is reviewing this movie the in the same way and using the same criteria that he would reviewing some shit like transformers despite having completely opposite intentions.
Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?
Also How The fuck is this a lone wolf and cub rip off? I get that there is a cart and a kid but the themes, messages, plot, story, characters, setting, and intention are completely different. So what every movie about a father and son in a survival setting is a lone wolf rip-off? HINT: just cause it's on wikipedia doesn't make it valid.

Also the shoehorned nerd references are soo fucking irritating. Not to mention they aren't obscure, aren't clever, and half the time aren't even relevant.
I've wasted enough time on this bullshit.

I'm sorry for quoting an old post. I'm just stating my agreement.

This basically made my opinon of MovieBOB do a 180 aswell.

This movie was utter superb, and I think the "Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?"(From above post) sums up my main gripe to the T.

Horrible review. You just removed yourself of my may-watch-on-the-escapist list.

THANK YOU! My husband rented this movie last night and he was so disappointed that I didn't like it. I tried to explain that it was two hours of nothing and he would reply "You don't need events to make a good movie"
I thought maybe I had a bit too much ADD and couldn't just sit back and enjoy the nothingness. He loved the movie so much I thought I might have had a problem with my tastes.
I then looked to see if you had a review of this movie, just to see if maybe my opinion of it was justified.

Your review was spot on with how I thought about this movie.
100%

Now to go rub it in my husbands face.

s0denone:

Evil_scintist:
This is the video that has completely reversed my opinion on this guy as any sort of serious movie critic or even anyone who has any right to a published opinion on anything related to art or cinema.
Before his obvious lack of knowledge in his field was limited to small little pin-prick sized statements of monumental stupidity that you could forgive because the overall message of the review seemed to be valid but here... No fucking way.

I could see claiming that it was boring or slow or even that the subject matter was uninteresting for him but to claim that this is a movie where nothing happens is so blatantly and provably wrong that it's embarrassing that I once considered his opinion as one that at least understood the medium that he is so opinionated about.
As much as he talks about getting the point and that he understands the intention (which he may), he seems to miss the point of cinema entirely. He is reviewing this movie the in the same way and using the same criteria that he would reviewing some shit like transformers despite having completely opposite intentions.
Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?
Also How The fuck is this a lone wolf and cub rip off? I get that there is a cart and a kid but the themes, messages, plot, story, characters, setting, and intention are completely different. So what every movie about a father and son in a survival setting is a lone wolf rip-off? HINT: just cause it's on wikipedia doesn't make it valid.

Also the shoehorned nerd references are soo fucking irritating. Not to mention they aren't obscure, aren't clever, and half the time aren't even relevant.
I've wasted enough time on this bullshit.

I'm sorry for quoting an old post. I'm just stating my agreement.

This basically made my opinon of MovieBOB do a 180 aswell.

This movie was utter superb, and I think the "Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?"(From above post) sums up my main gripe to the T.

Horrible review. You just removed yourself of my may-watch-on-the-escapist list.

"Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?"(

Why would I watch a movie that was not meant to entertain me?

Annchan:

s0denone:

Evil_scintist:
This is the video that has completely reversed my opinion on this guy as any sort of serious movie critic or even anyone who has any right to a published opinion on anything related to art or cinema.
Before his obvious lack of knowledge in his field was limited to small little pin-prick sized statements of monumental stupidity that you could forgive because the overall message of the review seemed to be valid but here... No fucking way.

I could see claiming that it was boring or slow or even that the subject matter was uninteresting for him but to claim that this is a movie where nothing happens is so blatantly and provably wrong that it's embarrassing that I once considered his opinion as one that at least understood the medium that he is so opinionated about.
As much as he talks about getting the point and that he understands the intention (which he may), he seems to miss the point of cinema entirely. He is reviewing this movie the in the same way and using the same criteria that he would reviewing some shit like transformers despite having completely opposite intentions.
Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?
Also How The fuck is this a lone wolf and cub rip off? I get that there is a cart and a kid but the themes, messages, plot, story, characters, setting, and intention are completely different. So what every movie about a father and son in a survival setting is a lone wolf rip-off? HINT: just cause it's on wikipedia doesn't make it valid.

Also the shoehorned nerd references are soo fucking irritating. Not to mention they aren't obscure, aren't clever, and half the time aren't even relevant.
I've wasted enough time on this bullshit.

I'm sorry for quoting an old post. I'm just stating my agreement.

This basically made my opinon of MovieBOB do a 180 aswell.

This movie was utter superb, and I think the "Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?"(From above post) sums up my main gripe to the T.

Horrible review. You just removed yourself of my may-watch-on-the-escapist list.

"Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?"(

Why would I watch a movie that was not meant to entertain me?

I made an account just to second this post.

Movies are a form of entertainment. The book itself was a form of entertainment. "The road" was not real; it did not have any big hitting political points behind it. And even movies that do, like "Green Zone" still try and include entertaining plot devices. It was the work of fiction and it was FUN to read. The movie should be, therefore FUN to watch. It should entertain the viewer.

Annchan:
"Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?"(

Why would I watch a movie that was not meant to entertain me?

We need to define what "entertain" means.
To me, in this context, it has to do with "Haha, this is a funny/shiny/dark/magical and entertaining movie", not "Wow, this is a good/insightful and therefore entertaining movie"

You don't judge a comedy based of how good a horror-movie it is, just like you don't judge a movie like The Road, which is meant to make you think(Which I think does quite amiably), on how many explosions or how many gunshots are in there. It's simply stupid.

In essence, it's a deep, emotional movie where the last few pieces of the puzzle depends on whether or not the viewer is drawn to such a movie. This means it will remain bland and dull to some people, case in point: you, and others will find it to be an amazing stroke of genius and work of art.

You're clearly not the target audience, and as such your opinion doesn't matter at all. Even less than movieBobs. Of course you shouldn't see it. Just like I cannot make an unbiased statement on any Chick-flick, ever, doesn't make all of them bad movies - it just means I'm not the target audience and am unable to compare them to others of their genre and then see how they hold up.

Lusulpher:
First time disagreeing with Bob, my Lord and Saviour.

The Road was near-flawless art. And that was it. It made few sacrifices to the audience when portraying the mood of The Ruination.

The kid was annoying. But he was a Messiah symbol that was supposed to ask the naive questions, always, or else he's just another sharp, gritty piece of the world. You know the ones "who consciously decide to destroy another human being". Imagine him like his desperate father...

I read a few pages of the book and it made me go cold. I watched the movie and my heart was racing at a few points, I nearly shouted a warning to warn them once.
The quagmire, chaos, and waste on display, reminded me of Human nature.

The movie was a character study, it strips off the mask, looks at the face and does not blink. Then it tells it's son. "THIS is what I look like too. We all look like monsters."

Also, roads are a symbol of civilization, and you have to stay away from them to survive. FUCKING SUPERB WRITING.

And I cannot get the image of the quiet deaths out of my head.
And I was really sleepy when I began the film, but at 4AM I was wide awake and a bit scared.

I recommend you watch it again. Tragic, haunting, beautiful deaths.

Thank you! I saw it as an unbelievably beautiful, uplifting and hopeful film. Any story that involves a grown man protecting a child is NOT A DIRECT ADAPTATION of Lone Wolf and Cub. Is he really trying to tell me that a father trying to keep his son alive in a chaotic world is a unique concept that was penned by someone?

And I didn't think the kid was annoying at all. Do people really think that a child in that situation is going to be a monotone, milquetoast bot? Probably not. He's going to scream, he's going to cry, he's going to put you in many dangerous situations. But then again, Bob probably isn't a father, so he can't appreciate the movie from that perspective. Robert Duvall almost had me in tears, and Viggo was fantastic in this movie. IMO, he should've at least been nominated for an Oscar, but I agree Christoph Waltz deserved it. Lastly, the score by Nick Cave and Warren Ellis was amazing, the track "The Beach" especially moves me every time I hear it. Emotionally powerful in its simplicity.

I understand taste is subjective, but just because this film doesn't have a Criterion release doesn't mean it's shit.

Annchan:

s0denone:

Evil_scintist:
This is the video that has completely reversed my opinion on this guy as any sort of serious movie critic or even anyone who has any right to a published opinion on anything related to art or cinema.
Before his obvious lack of knowledge in his field was limited to small little pin-prick sized statements of monumental stupidity that you could forgive because the overall message of the review seemed to be valid but here... No fucking way.

I could see claiming that it was boring or slow or even that the subject matter was uninteresting for him but to claim that this is a movie where nothing happens is so blatantly and provably wrong that it's embarrassing that I once considered his opinion as one that at least understood the medium that he is so opinionated about.
As much as he talks about getting the point and that he understands the intention (which he may), he seems to miss the point of cinema entirely. He is reviewing this movie the in the same way and using the same criteria that he would reviewing some shit like transformers despite having completely opposite intentions.
Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?
Also How The fuck is this a lone wolf and cub rip off? I get that there is a cart and a kid but the themes, messages, plot, story, characters, setting, and intention are completely different. So what every movie about a father and son in a survival setting is a lone wolf rip-off? HINT: just cause it's on wikipedia doesn't make it valid.

Also the shoehorned nerd references are soo fucking irritating. Not to mention they aren't obscure, aren't clever, and half the time aren't even relevant.
I've wasted enough time on this bullshit.

I'm sorry for quoting an old post. I'm just stating my agreement.

This basically made my opinon of MovieBOB do a 180 aswell.

This movie was utter superb, and I think the "Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?"(From above post) sums up my main gripe to the T.

Horrible review. You just removed yourself of my may-watch-on-the-escapist list.

"Why the fuck would you review a movie that was clearly not meant to entertain you based on how entertaining it was?"(

Why would I watch a movie that was not meant to entertain me?

Well, if that's true, then why does anyone create documentaries any more? Yes, there are some funny ones, and some have funny parts, but for the most part they are not what most people would call, "Entertaining"

In my opinion, The Road is not a typical movie, but rather an, "Art Movie" or, "Painting Movie" The movie was made (From a book that was made for the same reason) to make a point, and to make viewers (Or readers) think.

So of course, most people who watch movies just for fun/entertainment may not find it interesting, but people who watch movies for more than just having a bit of fun, the ones who watch movies as art to make a point/make them think would like it.

I have to confess i didn't even like the book, I read it with a book club on another forum and I think I was about the only one who didn't like it. The trouble was it just didn't have any credibility, fist the unknown apocalypse... WTF? ok so its a dramatic tool but you've got to at least try to explain this if you're going to pin so much bull crap on it. What "apocalypse" could possibly leave thousands of humans alive but with all other living creatures and plants permanently extinct!?
and some of the bullshit scenarios and decisions defied all logic and did so brazenly which pissed me off... ok I understand that its not a literal story but a poetic one, but even so, you've to to at least give us something to help suspend disbelief.

/rant

I liked the film, scared me a lot more than most of the horror films out at the moment. Particularly that Paranormal Film, THAT was a film about nothing. And what else is there? Some terrible Saw movie? The Road was pretty good, but maybe I'm fooling myself, perhaps I just like watching Viggo, same as Liam Neeson, just watchable actors whatever film they're in

I do wish I had seen this before the movie, bad

I LOVED this movie. One of my favorite post-apocalyptic movies ever. Love it.

This is one of those instances where everyone should definitely ignore Bob.
He completely missed the mark this time around.
An amazing film, getting ripped on by a critic clearly out of his element here, and letting some sort of odd bias (that he spends part of the review trying to deny) get in the way of his understanding of how fantastic this film actually is.

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