238: Stripping Down the Nude Mod

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MurderousToaster:
I can hear the soft sound of fapping in the distance...

Sounds like a zen koan. "What is the sound of one hand fapping?"

I'm just glad they never released a nude patch for Tony Hawk's Pro Bacon Cooker III.

Seriously, though, I remember when various controversial games (like Mortal Kombat) drew playground rumors of all sorts of depraved and forbidden acts - like SWEARING! (I recall one article in Game Players or Gamepro saying "There's no nude cheat or swear cheat, but you can hack up babies due to a bug." I imagine there was much disappointment from the readers of that issue.)

Before that, the games Barbarian and Barbarian II (aka "Axe of Rage") for the C64 had nude hacks for assorted heroes and monsters. I wasn't really much for it. Somehow the idea of seeing Princess Mariana's assets didn't excite me when it also meant seeing the three-pixel penis of the 400 pound torture chamber guard. Especially when Mariana's real life analogue was Maria Whittaker, and if you can't see her breasts then you're just not trying.

Heh. I never saw the point of those early nude mods. Graphics weren't good enough then to make it look realistic enough for me to even get a chuckle.

It's great that someone decided to make an article about this. I personally never quite understood the thought process behind it. You wanna look at a nude version of a character? There are far easier and more fulfilling ways to do it. Hentai/adult fanart, or, if you don't mind using your imagination a bit, erotic fanfiction.

I've always looked down on "nude mods" personally, I think they're sad. In spite of that however, I commend the creator of the mod for knowing how to perform such an act; I'm pretty sure re-skinning 3D character models is no picnic. On the other hand, like I said earlier, I find it quite sad and am actually more repulsed than aroused at the sight of a nude mod (Alyx from HL2? that's just gross; the Ayane [from the DoA fighters] mod was better than that).

Except for this one Cammy mod in SF4. That was actually pretty good, probably because she wasn't actually naked. The one with Chun-Li not wearing anything under her cheongsam... not so much.

I found the nude patch for Morrowind gave the game more immersion, the followers of Dagoth Ur and the crazy beserkers on Solstheim were far more frightening. All completely stripping a corpse of all possessions felt quite degrading, I only reserved it for bitter enemies.

I don't see the objection you see to oogling your own character. I know that in a game where you design a character, I tend towards going for a girl avatar since I'll be stuck with her in a game for presumably hours. What better way to spend it than oggle-ing. :P

Oh man, The Sims. I remember back in the day when I was 11 or 12 and I used to play the shit out of that game. Even at that age, I wondered what the point of showing the characters fooling around in the bed or in the hot tub was if they were unwilling to go that extra mile. I mean, it's one thing to try and keep a somewhat kid-friendly rating, but if you're putting sexual content like that in there to begin with, it just seems kind of silly to try and pretend to be a saint about it and, at least in The Sims, it just comes across as goofy and awkward.

Then again, I'm vehemently anti-censorship. It strikes me as just...hypocritical to write a nude scene or profanity into a story, then, in hindsight, add in a few bleeps and blurs on the off-chance that a child could be watching. Anyone young enough not to understand what is going on behind the mosaic isn't the target audience and shouldn't have been watching to begin with. Okay, yeah, I agree that it's not okay for an 8 year-old to be commenting to his teacher about how the women in the commercial for Spring Break Boobie Bonanza must be cold since they never wear shirts, but where the hell were his overly concerned parents when he was watching Comedy Central at 4 AM in the first place?

As for ogling player avatars and such, I can see how some people would find it weird if they thought of the character as an extension of themselves, but not everyone sees it that way. If I'm given the choice of playing a male or female character in a game, I tend to go with female. I get asked whether I'm gay or wish I'd been born a girl all the time, but I'm not and I don't. Part of the reason I go with girls is because the ladies are typically faster in fighting games and sometimes the reason is simply because the option was presented to me. However, when it comes to MMOs or other games where I'm likely to be staring at the same character for 100+ hours, the reason is simply because I'd rather spend that time looking at a girl than a guy.

Incidentally, the first time I ever saw pornography, it was because I mistyped the URL for a website dedicated to (non-nude) custom skins for The Sims.

Did you know there's even a patch for Dragon Age: Origins that makes the ogres anatomically correct?
Perfect if you've always wanted to slay giants with huge throbbing erections...
Bleh...

I'm surprised to see the lack of mention of the Dragon Age: Origins. I know this article was mainly discussing nudity in games where the clothes aren't kept on 100% of the time, however games such as Dragon Age reflect nudity and sex in a different light to say Tomb Raider.

The developers had made a conscious decision to de-eroticise the game, and yet on the Bioware forums the most popular and endorsed user created files are often those involving improved sex scenes that depict oral sex, nude patches and quite humorous if not well made strap-on dildos for females.

It is interesting to note that user created patches such as these are not paid for. The user in most circumstances remains anonymous existing only through their pseudonym. And yet with unfaltering dedication they continue to dish out these patches for communities to enjoy. Requests are often granted as well with no ask for payment beyond recognition. It could be considered altruism.

I myself in the past month have been quite obsessive with the nude and sex mods within Dragon Age. I wouldn't say that I do it for erotic purposes, high speed internet and access to porn themed youtube sites easily satisfies that particular animal instinct. However in my games I use them for the same reason I use patches that had increased penalties to injuries, or increasing the weight of my heavy armour or allowing my characters to bash open locks rather than needing a pick locking skill.

Because it makes sense. As you put it so well "All this time they were naked under those clothes".

I know sex well enough that I don't keep bras and panties on and embrace by the fire side for 15 seconds just as I know that if I can't pick open a lock I'm going to break the door down with a battle axe.

The paradox of gaming is that we recognize our detachment of gaming to reality, yet we often wish for the game to be as realistic as possible. (Apparently G cup breast are realistic in Japan).

there's already a nude mod for tetris, it's called sextris

Well, I might as well make a confession....

I'm running the "revealing vanquisher mod" on Torchlight. The mod, obviously, converts all of the vanquisher's(or as Yahtzee called her, "the titties") armor into skimpy see-thru outfits that reveal her breasts. Not too much detail, though...Ah well, you can't win 'em every time.

Why did I did it? For curiosity's sake. It was my first nude mod, and I'm rather disappointed in it. Will I keep it up? Not likely. Most likely I'll grow bored of it and take out the mod.

A well made nude mod has a lower poly count then whatever it's based on. I don't mind those. It's the 15 seconds "draw a nipple in mspaint and copy it over the regular texture" kludges that bother me, especially if they have memory leaks. There's this TR patch that makes the game take up 7GB of RAM in less then an hour and bluescreens shortly after.

"Stripped of context as well as clothes, these nude characters sleepwalk through unblinking games in a way that is comic rather than erotic. The result is somehow less than its combined parts, like a man arriving at a cocktail party wearing a T-shirt with a picture of a tuxedo on it."

You know, when I first heard that Playboy had a feature for naked video game females, I was excited. Then when I opened it, it was pretty damn BORING. What made characters like Rayne or Mai Shiranui fun, was that their outfits were just so improbable. Take that away, and they're no different from any other naked female. And even the most highly rendered nude is no replacement for a photo of the genuine article.

Considering the fact that pictures of naked cartoon characters are considered child porn and therefore illegal in australia
http://www.qt.com.au/story/2010/01/26/an-ipswich-man-has-admitted-downloading-graphic-ca/

You can probably get into jail in Australia for having a nude patch installed in The Sims, which also features kids.

Y'know why men like nude mods? Men like to look at boobies. Nude mods = boobies.

Logan Westbrook:

The_root_of_all_evil:
Good article BUT...

No Hot Coffee?

I would have thought that was the epitome of the article?

Given than the thrust of the article, and indeed the entire issue, is user created content; an unimplemented feature designed by the developers of the game, is a little outside its scope.

And an unimplemented feature that changed Oblivion's rating obviously had nothing in common with that, right?

Mr.Tea:

Logan Westbrook:

The_root_of_all_evil:
Good article BUT...

No Hot Coffee?

I would have thought that was the epitome of the article?

Given than the thrust of the article, and indeed the entire issue, is user created content; an unimplemented feature designed by the developers of the game, is a little outside its scope.

And an unimplemented feature that changed Oblivion's rating obviously had nothing in common with that, right?

There's quite the difference between assembling a mod out of unused textures, and reinstating an essentially complete feature.

The fascination with nude mods is not so complicated: post-adolescent imaginations infused with enough horniness hormones to want to see anything vaguely female naked. If you think wanting to see Laura Croft nude is weird, you haven't seen the great dearth of Sonic the Hedgehog porn.

geldonyetich:
The fascination with nude mods is not so complicated: post-adolescent imaginations infused with enough horniness hormones to want to see anything vaguely female naked.

Egad.. "horniness hormones?" Those are the worst KIND of those!

If only we could pump those post-adolescents full of that other kind of hormone, the one that makes you want to walk dreamily through the park and discuss French literature.

I call it "Proustosterone."

I really hope developers don't start trying to put sex and nudity in there games to make more money. When that starts happening, developers will just start hiding poorly developed games behind a pair of tits. It'll be like taking a piece of poo and rolling it in glitter.

Cpu46:

Onyx Oblivion:
As long as the internet exists, I've got better ways to look at porn.

Also, if a mod can change a game's rating, why aren't all PC games rated for adults?

Because the skins the moders used were already in Oblivions codeing, just unreachable to the average gamer.

Thats a misunderstanding.
I've seen those myself.

When you unpack the BSA archives, you can find a 'skin' but its nippless.
They then have another skin with bras over it.

Thats the extent of that 'issue'...
If any 'politician' got there hands on an actual 'nude' skin, heres what happened.

There son (or daughter) downloaded a nude patch, and back in the early days, you had to repack the BSA with the costumized skin. Thus altering the orginal BSA archives.

Bethsoft didn't include actual nude skins, simply barbie-skins.

Logan Westbrook:

There's quite the difference between assembling a mod out of unused textures, and reinstating an essentially complete feature.

-One required the creation of a correct path for a texture folder, finding the actual texture file and placing it there and editing the Archiveinvalidation.txt.

-The other required the use of a script of an unknown (to me) complexity.

I thought that was similar, but I can see where you're coming from seeing as Hot Coffee was not only a nude mod, but a full-on sex sim mini-game. My point was simply that, as one of the bigger controversies of the gaming world, it could have been mentioned in the article.

Brendan Main:

geldonyetich:
The fascination with nude mods is not so complicated: post-adolescent imaginations infused with enough horniness hormones to want to see anything vaguely female naked.

Egad.. "horniness hormones?" Those are the worst KIND of those!

If only we could pump those post-adolescents full of that other kind of hormone, the one that makes you want to walk dreamily through the park and discuss French literature.

I call it "Proustosterone."

If there is such a thing, you'd have a hard time finding any that the beatniks of past decades haven't consumed already. ;)

I noticed the brief mention of nude sims did NOT include all those OTHER delightful mods people have come up with.

And I MEAN delightful. *leer*

*cough*

I'm sure I have no idea what I'm talking about, Mum.

BrynThomas:
All completely stripping a corpse of all possessions felt quite degrading, I only reserved it for bitter enemies.

...That is so odd. I, too, felt bad for stripping total strangers butt naked. Then I remembered that I had no problem actually *murdering* total strangers and shooting their corpses full of arrows in their naughty bits, and thus felt better about it. If a little depraved.

Slayer_2:

Usually when it gets to that point I'm forced to make the moose wait outside.

And don't forget the beavers, those little rascals generate a lot of heat.

That's what I thought. Then I thought of this:

A really interesting article, not to mention several sections which made me laugh out loud (I prefer to think of them as half-dressed).

I really like how it addresses the complete abscence of any sort of eroticism when it comes to nude video game characters. Sure, Lara Croft is a somewhat attractive character (even in her early days, she was better than most), but simply making her naked and playing the game as usual isn't erotic, it's awkard.... and really, really weird.

Personally, I've never been against sexuality in video games, as long as it fits with the game itself - I think Bayonetta is a perfect example. The highly sexualized nature of Bayonetta's moves is an aspect which I feel manages to flow nicely with the stylized nature of the combat. Even the dancers in "The Saboteur" or the strip clubs found in "San Andreas" (hell, I'd be willing to throw the "Hot Coffee" mod into this group) don't feel like cheap spectacles, but rather as natural components of the game's backdrop, just as much a part of those worlds as any car chase or gunfight.

Good job on finally getting me to read part of an article proper. I think it's about what kind of person you are, I could totally ogle myself, I'm one of those people that if turned into a woman, after freaking out, would spend most of an hour exploring, and a few hours... trying stuff out, rather than being mortified. As for the older attempts, there's an element of imagination-- why do you think people still read "Forum"-type stuff? because they can imagine what it would look (and feel) like, and video games started out and still often are tools that enhance, extend, and aid the imagination. On the comic side, that may the point for some of them-- in my experience with rule 34, some of it is for looking at, and some of it is for laughing at (and if you're an unlucky artist, your try at the former will turn into the latter).

Premonition:
'Meh, I don't wanna buy it.'
'There's a naked patch.'
'A NEKKID PATCH?! I AM SO THERE!'

Sex sells, what can I say.

Nicely said :)

Brendan, your alliteration is fun.

I should also point out that I heard there is a game called Adult Tetris out there on the Internet, so someone was way ahead of you on being that ridiculous.

"And that the heart of it?"

Who edited this? We all make typos, but not everyone is writing featured content for what is ostensibly an online literary publication. The beginning and end of what is written for anything will always be remembered the best by readers, and it seems to me that even a cursory glance by any other staffer would have revealed such a glaring error before the article was published. If The Escapist wants to pride itself on some limited sort of Internet superiority over other websites (don't try to pretend this doesn't happen), I would expect a high level of correctness in communication.

Also, it may just be me, but I found your article little more than a cursory introduction to this subject, with few actual details about what you did.

I saw the words "stripping" and "nude". Wait, what are we talking about?

it's very strange to play a non-sexual single player game with a nude patch. Shortly after you start, you stop caring and just play the game. It's weird

I really don't understand the confusion about the use of nude patches.

the criteria for whether or not someone would use such a patch is usually this:

1) is the game fun? yes? good!

2) is it fun to look at a nice body of your preferred sex? yes? good.

Wouldn't it be more fun to combine the two?

....

Yes!

Some people do seem to think that sex and anything relating to it is bad or taboo in some way, but for me, that's all I need to know.

There are some nude patches that are terribly out of place, but that's because they don't make the nude patch in context, like the Vindictus nude patch and its armor breaking or Left4Dead because of all the zombies and their hunger for destroying, ripping, and tearing (they can destroy a door and a car, but not clothes? come on.).

There are some people who seem to take enjoyment out of thinking of themselves as superior to others who enjoy the use of nude mods, but those people just seem to like making themselves feel better at someone else's expense.

There's nothing wrong with nude patches and those who use them aren't necessarily depraved or "sad". They're most likely just having harmless fun, so let them without judging, I say.

Yeah nudity is slowly becoming less of a big deal for games and I think its great. I think its equally weird to see a nude patch in left4dead as non-nude character models in the relationship scenes of bioware games. Really comes down to the individual game, if it makes sense for the title then whatever.

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